2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo while Bernie met with the Pope - Hillary is at a $335K per plate Fund Raiser
Proving Bernie and the Pope are right - Americans have denigrated into worshiping Money - or as Biblical Scholars would say "The Golden Calf"Oh - and Dear VP Biden, you have lived up to your reputation of constantly inserting your "Foot in Your Mouth" once again. Pope Francis and Bernie Sanders sound Just Alike on many issues
ON POLITICAL ENGAGEMENT
1. Pope Francis: I ask you to be builders of the world, to work for a better world. Dear young people, please, dont be observers of life, but get involved." (July 27, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: We have to be engaged. We have to get involved. ... And millions of our friends and neighbors who dont vote, who have given up on the political process, they have got to get involved. (Seabrook, N.H., Sept. 20, 2015)
2. Pope Francis: We must say, We want a just system! A system that enables everyone to get on. We must say: We dont want this globalized economic system which does us so much harm! (Sept. 22, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: The American people are saying, "Enough is enough. We need to create an economy that works for all of us and not just a handful of billionaires. (Cochran, New Hampshire, on ABC News "This Week," June 28, 2015)
ON WAGES
3. Pope Francis: A just wage enables them to have adequate access to all the other goods, which are destined for our common use. (Nov. 24, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: The federal minimum wage, it's a starvation wage. You do the arithmetic. People cant live on it. We have got to raise the minimum wage over a period of years to a living wage. (Johnston, Iowa, Sept. 3, 2015)
ON FAMILY
4. Pope Francis: Over and over again we see that family bonds are essential for the stability of relationships in society, for the work of education and for integral human development. (June 20, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: What is most important is the need for mothers and fathers to bond with the baby they have brought to life. What kind of family value is it when you tell a woman who has just had a baby that she cant spend time with that child, but that she has to go back to work? (Washington, D.C., June 11, 2015)
ON UNEMPLOYMENT
5. Pope Francis: The most serious of the evils that afflict the world these days are youth unemployment and the loneliness of the old. (Oct. 1, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: In my view there is no justice in our country when youth unemployment exists at tragically high levels. (Liberty University, Sept. 14, 2015)
ON WAR
6. Pope Francis: We want in our society, torn apart by divisions and conflict, that peace break out! War never again! Never again war! Peace is a precious gift, which must be promoted and protected. (Sept. 1, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: It is my firm belief that the test of a great nation with the most powerful military on earth is not how many wars it can engage in, but how it can use our strength and our capabilities to resolve international conflicts in a peaceful way. (Washington, D.C., Sept. 9, 2015)
ON CLIMATE CHANGE
7. Pope Francis: The vocation of being a protector, however, is not just something involving us Christians alone; it also has a prior dimension which is simply human, involving everyone. It means protecting all creation, the beauty of the created world. ... It means respecting each of Gods creatures and respecting the environment in which we live." (March 19, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: "When we talk about our responsibilities as human beings and as parents, there is nothing more important than leaving our planet healthy and habitable for our kids and our grandkids." (Los Angeles, Aug. 10, 2015)
ON HEALTH CARE
8. Pope Francis: It is vital that government leaders and financial leaders take heed and broaden their horizons, working to ensure that all citizens have dignified work, education and health care. (Nov. 24, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: "Health care is a right of all people, not a privilege. Most Americans do believe that all of us should have health care coverage, and that nobody should be left out of the system." (Op-ed, Huffington Post, July 9, 2009)
ON INEQUALITY
9. Pope Francis: It is a well-known fact that current levels of production are sufficient, yet millions of people are still suffering and dying of starvation. (June 20, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: Despite exploding technology and increased worker productivity, median family income is almost $5,000 less than it was in 1999. (Twitter, June 15, 2015)
10. Pope Francis: While the earnings of a minority are growing exponentially, so too is the gap separating the majority from the prosperity enjoyed by those happy few. (Nov. 24, 2013)
Bernie Sanders: "There is something profoundly wrong when we are seeing a proliferation of billionaires at the same time as millions of Americans are working longer hours for lower wages and we have the highest rate of childhood poverty of any major country." (Portland, Maine, July 6, 2015)
Quotations from Pope Francis according to U.S Conference of Catholic Bishops Department of Justice, Peace and Human Development.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/10-times-bernie-sanders-sounded-pope-francis/story?id=33942051
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)Or will he be running the Government himself?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Hillary supporters just don't get it
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)If you don't want corporate money in the campaign, it's his duty to reach out to all his supporters and have them contribute to every down ticket race and Party, right?
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-white/new-democrat-coalition_b_1358953.html
Third Way Members
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2014/10/06/struggle-for-soul-democratic-party-pits-wall-street-backed-think-tank-against-elizabeth-warren/pYk3SXRnZDmpi7C7N4ZpXN/story.html
Bread and Circus
(9,454 posts)brooklynite
(94,503 posts)And what does Third Way have to do with Party fundraising? Third Way is an advocacy group; you're welcome to form your own.
BTW - My wife and I have now contributed $48,000 to Clinton, the DNC, DSCC, DCCC, DGA, 10 Senate races and about 25 House seats. If my money's tainted, you might want to start catching up.
lostnfound
(16,176 posts)But i expect that it will get directed instead toward stopping Progressives and rating off centrists.
The country is on the brink of being ready for a shift of that sort, as evidenced by the fact that young people are overwhelmingly voting further left than the older ones and the fact that excessive corporate influence is now such an acknowledged fact of American government.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)to each.
This whole "she is raising money for other candidates" is another Clinton shell corporation. They are giving her right back any money she gives them.
EmperorHasNoClothes
(4,797 posts)And these two meetings are the perfect example of that.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Jitter65
(3,089 posts)vintx
(1,748 posts)He and the Pope have similar views about wealth inequality and how harmful it is
Hillary says whatever the crowd in front of her wants to hear ('I'm a moderate', 'I'm a progressive', 'I'm a centrist') - that's pandering.
That reminds me, that 'basta' shit... I need to post an OP.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)brooklynite
(94,503 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Otherwise, our enemy du jour might not be scary enough to justify future military misadventurism.
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)Biden adores the Pope.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)While Bernie berns all those 27 dollar money bombs donations on an around-the-world escapade to ambush the pope and get a picture with him. FAIL LOL
I'll take Hillary and the democrats, thanks!