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Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 04:56 PM Apr 2016

Hillary Clinton Praises Ruling Allowing Sandy Hook Families To Sue Gunmaker; Sanders remains mute

Hillary Clinton Praises Ruling Allowing Sandy Hook Families To Sue Gunmaker


Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is praising a decision by a Connecticut judge to allow the families of the victims of the Sandy Hook massacre to sue the gun manufacturer.

After Judge Barbara Bellis denied a motion from the gun manufacturers to dismiss a case brought by the families of the Sandy Hook massacre victims, Hillary Clinton said, “Today’s ruling in Connecticut is an important step forward for these families, who are bravely fighting to hold irresponsible gun makers accountable for their actions. They deserve their day in court. Period. Unfortunately, PLCAA – the sweeping immunity law that protects gun manufacturers and dealers – still remains a major obstacle for these families and others seeking to hold these gun companies accountable. That is why, as president, I would lead the charge to repeal this law. Nothing can make these families whole again after losing their children and loved ones in Sandy Hook, but they deserve a president who will fight for them, and I am committed to doing just that.”

The presidential campaign of Sen.[font size="+1"] Bernie Sanders has yet to release a statement on the decision, but in the past Sanders has said that he is not in favor of the gun manufacturers being sued for selling a legal product[/font].

Gun policy has been a major point of difference between the two Democratic presidential campaigns. It is a near certainty that this topic will be brought up at the CNN Democratic debate.
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Hillary Clinton Praises Ruling Allowing Sandy Hook Families To Sue Gunmaker; Sanders remains mute (Original Post) Bill USA Apr 2016 OP
He already made his feelings clear RandySF Apr 2016 #1
that is not what he said last night - directly to millions SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #17
Talk about a Pandora's box NWCorona Apr 2016 #2
Besides losing their loved ones, they will lose every penny they have to the NRA... Human101948 Apr 2016 #27
Few here appear to care about gun control. MoonRiver Apr 2016 #3
I always ask this question and never get a real response. What is your proposal for gun control? nt Logical Apr 2016 #5
That'll change when Bernie changes or when Hillary i nominated, RandySF Apr 2016 #9
Not the ones in the NRA, we feel like he's too liberal on guns. JRLeft Apr 2016 #19
Suing a company that did nothing wrong is insane. If the gun is defective you can sue them. People.. Logical Apr 2016 #4
Actually.....it's up to a judge and jury to decide if the evidence presented by the families msanthrope Apr 2016 #6
The lawsuits were just a way to cost the gun companies money...and you are wrong whining..... Logical Apr 2016 #10
Oh dear....how dare we cost the gun manufacturers money for wrongdoing. msanthrope Apr 2016 #11
Really? Yet you are clueless about the laws? nt Logical Apr 2016 #23
And yet the suit proceeds. The tobacco companies hid behind laws, too. nt msanthrope Apr 2016 #24
Yet you said "like everyone else" initially. I think you just got a little education. nt Logical Apr 2016 #25
Not from your posts on this issue. You seem to fundamentally msanthrope Apr 2016 #32
LOL, ok. Seems like I am right on this issue but keep making up shit. nt Logical Apr 2016 #33
comparing military weapons - machine guns to "small aircraft, Internet services, vaccine" Bill USA Apr 2016 #14
how about an honest thread title? Sanders supports right to sue TheDormouse Apr 2016 #7
Bill USA doesn't do honest posts. Not when there are dead kids to pimp! arcane1 Apr 2016 #13
GOP demagoguery. right out of Karl Rove's playbook... accuse the other guy of what you are doing. Bill USA Apr 2016 #15
In the end, it will probably be dismissed. No grounds. Vinca Apr 2016 #8
Hillary loves to exploit dead kids when she thinks she can score cheap points off them. arcane1 Apr 2016 #12
Maybe she'll chip in to cover their legal costs if/when it gets dismissed. jmg257 Apr 2016 #16
Hillary is pandering. Suing the manufacturers makes no sense at all. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #18
How can he release a statment when he is sitting outside of the Pope's door, hoping to run into His anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #20
Sanders hearts guns. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #21
Its good for emotions, but its really shitty law. Joe the Revelator Apr 2016 #22
REC. and Thank you. riversedge Apr 2016 #26
So does this mean Hillary lied when she said gun manufactuers were immune to lawsuits? aikoaiko Apr 2016 #28
Are the filing documents and ruling available online? aikoaiko Apr 2016 #29
Everyone knows where Bernie stands. Don't hang you hat on "guns," this is a GE loser for Hillary WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #30
I wonder if Hillary would support suing Textron, Raytheon, Blue Meany Apr 2016 #31
 

SoLeftIAmRight

(4,883 posts)
17. that is not what he said last night - directly to millions
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:43 PM
Apr 2016

hillary supporter - like hillary herself -run for cover like they are in bosnia

 

Human101948

(3,457 posts)
27. Besides losing their loved ones, they will lose every penny they have to the NRA...
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:27 AM
Apr 2016

Using them for political gain is no more admirable than the people who are leading them on a fool's errand.

Parents of Aurora shooting victim ordered to pay $200,000 in legal fees to ammo dealer

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/8/3/1408480/-Parents-of-Aurora-shooting-victim-ordered-to-pay-200-000-in-legal-fees-to-ammo-dealer

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
3. Few here appear to care about gun control.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:26 PM
Apr 2016

What used to be a major progressive issue, is now right of center!

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
5. I always ask this question and never get a real response. What is your proposal for gun control? nt
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:29 PM
Apr 2016
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
4. Suing a company that did nothing wrong is insane. If the gun is defective you can sue them. People..
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:28 PM
Apr 2016

hate guns so just want to be mad.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
6. Actually.....it's up to a judge and jury to decide if the evidence presented by the families
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:30 PM
Apr 2016

indicates they did something wrong. You haven't seen the evidence.

Neither have I.

Where I differ with Senator Sanders is that I think gun manufacturers, like everyone else,should be brought to equity.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
10. The lawsuits were just a way to cost the gun companies money...and you are wrong whining.....
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:38 PM
Apr 2016

about "everybody else" which is bullshit.

Congress has regularly passed limitations on liability for other groups, including small-aircraft manufacturers, Internet service and content providers and vaccine-makers.

Get informed before spouting off.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
11. Oh dear....how dare we cost the gun manufacturers money for wrongdoing.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:41 PM
Apr 2016

My first day of law school was all about how tort feasors should pay for the wrongs they do.

"Whining".......is that what the Sandy Hook families are doing?

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
14. comparing military weapons - machine guns to "small aircraft, Internet services, vaccine"
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:54 PM
Apr 2016

... items which have actual practical uses. the only use for a military weapon is for killing. What practical use does that have in a civilian setting? NONE.





TheDormouse

(1,168 posts)
7. how about an honest thread title? Sanders supports right to sue
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:35 PM
Apr 2016
They are in court today, and actually they won a preliminary decision today. They have the right to sue, and I support them and anyone else who wants the right to sue.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/15/us/politics/transcript-democratic-presidential-debate.html

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
8. In the end, it will probably be dismissed. No grounds.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:37 PM
Apr 2016

But the lawyers will make some money at the expense of the crime victims. For lawsuits to go forward you need to change the laws that allow guns to be legally manufactured, legally distributed and legally sold and the chances of that happening are less than zero. (And, before there's a nasty response, I am not pimping for the gun industry. My preference would be all guns confiscated and individual ownership eliminated.)

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
12. Hillary loves to exploit dead kids when she thinks she can score cheap points off them.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 05:51 PM
Apr 2016

This is exhibit A.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
16. Maybe she'll chip in to cover their legal costs if/when it gets dismissed.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 06:06 PM
Apr 2016

Negligent Entrustment complaint for a 100% legal product, and advertising to sell that product, will be interesting to prove.

 

anotherproletariat

(1,446 posts)
20. How can he release a statment when he is sitting outside of the Pope's door, hoping to run into His
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 07:44 PM
Apr 2016

Holiness as he leaves for Greece...give Sanders a break

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
29. Are the filing documents and ruling available online?
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:37 AM
Apr 2016


I think this would be interesting reading.

Most of the lawsuits against gun manufacturers or gun shops that were protected by PLCAA were based in emotionalism and ignorance.

Basically complainants who were truly victimized by criminals try to make juries believe that someone must pay - even if they are not responsible.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
31. I wonder if Hillary would support suing Textron, Raytheon,
Sat Apr 16, 2016, 09:53 AM
Apr 2016

Northrup, Honeywell and other companies whose weapons are killing innocents around the world and whose arm sales she approved as Secretary of State and many of whom have donated to her campaign. No one will ask her that of course, or why she opposed senate bills to ban land mines and cluster bombs, why she tried to derail the banning of cluster bombs by the UN, why she dramatically increased arms (including cluster bombs) sales to Gulf countries, or why she refuses to criticize the use of cluster bombs by Israel or the Saudis. Obviously it would be it would rude to bring these things up or to suggest that corporate interests might influence American policies or her views, especially when those are weighed against genuine humanitarian concerns such as the lives of children in Yemen who have been wounded by Textron cluster bombs. And, of course, it would be border on sedition to ask whether contributions of the war industry might have shaped the view of a candidate, (although Obama did criticize her for accepting money from Textron) because, after all, there is no evidence of a quid pro quo. And, since there is no such influence, I'm sure that she will show moral consistency by supporting class action lawsuits against all arms manufacturers whose products have cause death and destruction anywhere in the world.

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