2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIt's nice that HRC is proposing more low-income housing NOW...
...but shouldn't she have proposed it when she was actually REPRESENTING NY in the U.S. Senate? You know, like THIS guy kept doing?
It's not like she didn't know there was a housing problem in this country 'til this Thursday.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)If not, I'll go with the candidate who showed up to see those problems first hand and who was willing to spend time with the residents there, and who has a plan to solve their problems.
The Old Lie
(123 posts)You just described Bernie to a tee.
Thanks.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Bernie hasn't once shown up in a NYC neighborhood to listen to the people there and have a human interaction.
The only people that he's willing to sit down and talk to are millionaire celebrities like Rosario Dawson and Spike Lee.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Black Lives Matters can see right thru that political bullcrap.
Here are some important points made Black Lives Activist Ashley Williams:
The 1994 Crime Bill that she so vigorously defended not only expanded incarceration, but stripped funding for college education from prisoners. The Clinton legacy allowed for policies that prevented anyone convicted of a felony drug offense from receiving food stamps or income assistance. Clinton-led welfare reform fundamentally ripped apart the social safety net.
Make no mistake, Hillary Clinton's efforts to push these policies resulted in the continued destruction of Black communities and the swift growth of our mass incarceration crisis.
Make no mistake, this is Hillary Clinton. She "left our prisons bursting at the seams." She "stripped funding for college education from prisoners." She supported policies that prevented anyone convicted of a felony drug offense from receiving food stamps or income assistance. Clinton-led welfare reform fundamentally ripped apart the social safety net.
Clinton has gotten lots of cash from the Prisons For Profits industry, and to her, it's all about the money.
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)That was *after* he went out himself to pick garbage off the streets.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)anyhow, Bernie for whatever reason doesn't like to get too associate with regular New Yorkers
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)he visited in February said he seemed like a normal neighbor and was very nice.
IOW, come on. We ARE better than this. Both candidates have met with people in neighborhoods around the country. I am sorry, but going the Bernie is pandering to millionaires line is really, no really, silly.
(and, go ahead and run a search, I've said nothing about Hillary's fundraising dinners, realizing it's part of campaigning)
Enough already people.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)are they showing a lot of interest in the issue of improving public housing conditions for the urban poor, which is a major issue here? Or are they dropping snide idiotic talking points and openly stating that "no one cares about this but the Hillaverse?"
Indeed, here you all are criticizing Clinton for actually showing up and talking to these people and promising to help them.
Your only concern is scoring partisan points against Clinton. Not the issue that's being highlighted.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)I wish more people would post genuinely about the issues.
Just as I don't expect you to be responsible for the behavior of other DUers, don't expect me to be. Thanks for the consideration of what I originally posted. And, on the issue, I think this was a campaign appearance. I am less than believing that Hillary, or anyone really, will do much for the poor in our country. We the voters are simply pawns in a football game at this point.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)for showing up and bringing attention to an issue, when their own candidate failed to do so.
Feel free to show up here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511744988
and show a genuine interest in the issue
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)Sorry. I am losing so much respect for so many DUers (who support both candidates) by this game.
I will show up next Monday at my local women's shelter to donate clothing, canned goods and a set of hands. (instead of in whatever your linked thread is because it won't "do" anything to change anyone's mind) So many of us realize that's all we really can do in a world where politics have become a football game with nothing getting done.
http://www.hawc.org/
The week after that, you can find me here:
https://crisishotline.org/volunteer
I find it to do more for me than posting online.
Sorry that I responded to your post, but I've hit my breaking point with the bullshit from the supporters of both our Democratic candidates.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)thanks for doing what you do IRL, where it counts
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)and then I get called to a jury... (bad, ScreamingMeemie, bad)
...and thanks. I realized I spent far too much time doing nothing much with my life these days.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)puppet (who was probably trying to one up Clinton's Cheerleader)?
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Sanders' Housing Trust Fund Program Signed Into Law
Wednesday, July 30, 2008
http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sanders-housing-trust-fund-program-signed-into-law
The measure creates an Affordable Housing Trust Fund, an idea first introduced by Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) seven years ago. As a House member in 2001, Sanders first introduced legislation to create a trust fund to help build affordable homes and rental housing. The new law creates a dedicated fund to build, repair or rehabilitate affordable rental units and assist first-time homebuyers. The funds would be distributed to states and local communities. "This provision will play a significant role in building affordable housing for low- and moderate-income people, as well as the disabled," Sanders said.
The sweeping legislation also would help communities ease the harmful effects of foreclosures and delinquencies. Under the provision by Senators Patrick Leahy and Sanders, Vermont would receive almost $20 million of $3.92 billion in supplemental Community Development Block Grants. "Vermont cities and towns will be able to provide immediate assistance to the struggling middle class trying to hold onto their homes and revitalize neighborhoods in communities hit hard by foreclosures," Sanders said.
Another $57 million is allotted nationwide for federal grants to help disabled veterans adapt their homes. "With so many service members coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan with disabilities, it is absolutely imperative that we make sure they have as normal a life as possible and that certainly includes adapting their homes to meet their needs," Sanders said of the provision he offered.
The number of households facing foreclosure more than doubled in the second quarter of this year compared to one year ago, according to data released recently. Nationwide, foreclosure actions involved 739,714 homes in April, May and June. In Vermont, public radio reported that the 443 home foreclosures during past three months represented a 65 percent increase over the same period last year.
2014
https://vtdigger.org/2014/12/12/sanders-welcomes-funding-affordable-rental-housing/
The Federal Housing Finance Agency ended its temporary suspension of contributions to funds designed to allow more renters to find the homes they need at prices they can afford. The agency that oversees Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac ordered those companies to begin to make payments to affordable housing funds next year. The money will go into a fund to provided dedicated revenue for low-income housing. States and local agencies then could apply for the money and use it to finance very-low-income rental housing construction or rehabilitation projects.
This is really excellent news, said Sanders, who first proposed legislation in 2001 to create the Housing Trust Fund. It is no secret that over the past decade, incomes have not come close to keeping pace with the escalating costs of housing. At a time when millions of families are struggling to get by, and when many households are spending 50 percent or more of their limited income on housing, the Trust Fund will provide resources to build the affordable housing we desperately need and create thousands of good-paying jobs.
The National Low Income Housing Coalition had estimated that in 2012 there were only 3.2 million rental housing units available and affordable for the 10.3 million extremely-low-income households that need them. Sheila Crowley, the coalition president, cited Sanders role in a statement celebrating a great victory for the homeless and poor. At long last, the National Housing Trust Fund will have funds to begin to ameliorate the shortage of housing that they can afford. I am very grateful to Sen. Bernie Sanders for championing the NHTF since the first days of our campaign in 2001.
http://www.slate.com/articles/business/metropolis/2016/01/bernie_sanders_made_burlington_s_land_trust_possible_it_s_still_an_innovative.html
METROPOLIS
THE CITIES OF TODAY AND TOMORROW.JAN. 19 2016 5:30 AM
How Bernie Sanders Made Burlington Affordable
As the citys mayor in the 1980s, he championed an unusual model of publicly supported housing. Its still working.
By Jake Blumgart
....Within two years, his family owned a home in a small town just to the east of the city. The Robbins family bought its home through a conventional realtor and a commercial bank while also entering a covenant with the land trust to lease the land their home sits upon. This reduced the costs of their mortgage and down payment substantially.
Theyre far from alone. Across the land trusts portfolio today, there are about 565 other homes that enjoy similar terms, not to mention 2,100 rental and cooperative units. Half of these holdings are located within the city of Burlington itself, which had a total of 16,897 housing units as of 2010, meaning that about 7.6 percent of the stock sits on the nonprofits land.
We dont understand why housing isnt done this way everywhere, says Robbins, who says the cheaper mortgage allowed his family to save money for college and retirement that otherwise would have gone toward housing. Its just such a logical thing to have land owned by a community and the house be your private property to do with as you wish. Weve just had a terrific life here so far because of it.
The man largely responsible for this good fortune? Bernie Sanders.
While mayor of Burlington in the 1980s, the democratic-socialist senator and current contender for the Democratic presidential nomination was an early champion of community land trusts. Today, the organization whose creation he made possiblenow called the Champlain Housing Trustis the largest and most influential of its type in the nation.
Community land trusts are nonprofit organizations, with a board composed of representatives of the public, the local government, and the tenants, that obtain land and either develop it themselves or lease it to developers. The trust then removes its holdings from the private market, usually through 99-year ground leases and pre-emptive purchase requirements that limit how much the house can be sold for. Community land trust boosters argue that this not only ensures permanent affordability, but allows the organization to intercede in the case of, say, a foreclosure. An oft-cited study by the Lincoln Institute of Land Policy showed that, as of 2010, homeowners within a land trust were 10 times less likely to default on their homes than their private-market counterparts
http://portside.org/2015-06-05/bernies-burlington-what-kind-mayor-was-bernie-sanders
Bernie pounded his fist on the conference table in his office and told the owners, Over my dead body are you going to displace 336 working families. You are not going to convert Northgate into luxury housing, recalled Davis, who was Sanderss key housing aide.
Under Sanderss leadership, the city adopted a number of laws to stifle the owners plans. One ordinance required apartment owners to give residents two years notice before a condo conversion. Others gave residents a pre-emptive right to buy the units and prohibited landlords from bulldozing buildings unless they replaced them with the same number of affordable units. (These measures lowered the selling price of the property.) Sanders then worked with the state government and Senator Patrick Leahy to get the $12 million needed to purchase and rehabilitate the buildings. The city allocated funds to help the tenants hire an organizer, form the Northgate Residents Association, and start the process of converting the complex to resident ownership. Today, Northgate Apartments is owned by the tenants and has long-term restrictions to keep the buildings affordable for working families......
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)and didn't have a response on this issue, after being invited?
italiangirl
(60 posts)She will never pass up the opportunity to pander. It's in her genes
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)But the Clinton campaign has left the poor in the dust.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)But, there is no money in advocating for the poor.
ScreamingMeemie
(68,918 posts)It is very hard to do.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Look at the kids in this photo. Look at the people in Bernie rallies. People's hearts know instinctively who is for them and it brings joy to them.
Just sayin'
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)CentralCoaster
(1,163 posts)This is like her college plan, not free tuition but, rather, "affordable" debt (or whatever term she uses).
Put some seed money toward helping people get into mortgages = bank owned properties = debt.
Just like before with a different approach. Before they deregulated and allowed slopping lending practices = bad loans = foreclosures = lost fortunes.
In all cases, the banks win.
No thank you, Hillary. Just get away, go away, leave us the hell alone.