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Politifact: Clinton says Sanders "has been largely a very reliable supporter of NRA. MOSTLY FALSE (Original Post) SheenaR Apr 2016 OP
"Mostly false". LOL. Total bullshit. Clinton is desperate, turning to lies, lies and more lies. rhett o rick Apr 2016 #1
And the polls just continue to tighten . . . . . oopsie pdsimdars Apr 2016 #20
K&R. Barack_America Apr 2016 #2
Completely false. He does not support the NRA. n/t cui bono Apr 2016 #3
He votes in their favor more often than not. ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #6
Sure... that's why they give him a D- rating. cui bono Apr 2016 #8
In the Politifact article they outline his votes and which are pro-gun 69% of the time. ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #9
Imagine a time when Wall Street would ever give Hillary a D- rating. cui bono Apr 2016 #13
I'd say the one who takes their money is the one who's in bed with them. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #21
Bullshit. They gave him a grade of D- senz Apr 2016 #11
More like pants on fire. beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #4
I don't know how they can deem that "mostly false" ContinentalOp Apr 2016 #5
And she knows damn well it is a lie. Despicable. nt Live and Learn Apr 2016 #7
Since people still don't understand what the D minus rating means: beam me up scottie Apr 2016 #10
Clinton supporters are like Limbaugh listeners on this subject. senz Apr 2016 #12
Just on this subject? cui bono Apr 2016 #14
I can't say it often enough: HRC people = emotional loyalists. Sorry but true. snowy owl Apr 2016 #16
I think that's true. senz Apr 2016 #17
Clintonites: She lies! Why don't you see that? snowy owl Apr 2016 #15
10 Pinnochios for Hilliar!! berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #18
I wonder why he let her kick his ass on this topic in the debate? Dem2 Apr 2016 #19
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
1. "Mostly false". LOL. Total bullshit. Clinton is desperate, turning to lies, lies and more lies.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:01 AM
Apr 2016

She can't win on the issues.

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
8. Sure... that's why they give him a D- rating.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:37 AM
Apr 2016


Besides, supporting the NRA means something specific and he does not support the NRA.

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ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
9. In the Politifact article they outline his votes and which are pro-gun 69% of the time.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:49 AM
Apr 2016

Sure, that's technically a D, because the NRA is looking for purity, but being 70% pro-gun is pretty significant. He may not be a dues-paying, card carrying member of the NRA, but he clearly votes in their favor the majority of the time.

Imagine if Clinton supporters tried to argue that she was not pro wall street because she only votes in their favor 69% of the time!

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
13. Imagine a time when Wall Street would ever give Hillary a D- rating.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 02:54 AM
Apr 2016


Ask Rachel Maddow how well Politifact does with it's "fact checking".



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ContinentalOp

(5,356 posts)
5. I don't know how they can deem that "mostly false"
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:33 AM
Apr 2016

When the body of the article shows 18 votes that they categorize as being pro-gun positions and only 8 votes in favor of gun control. That looks like "largely" pro gun votes to me. It also puts the NRA's "D" grade into perspective. He votes in their favor 69% of the time. Of course the NRA is looking for ideological purity, and framing it as a letter grade makes him look a lot more anti-gun than he really is. But 70% support is pretty major!

And for 5 of his 8 anti-gun votes, he ended up voting with the majority. Without knowing the details of each bill, this could mean that he made token liberal votes when the outcome was already clear and his vote wasn't needed.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
10. Since people still don't understand what the D minus rating means:
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 12:53 AM
Apr 2016
How the NRA exerts influence over Congress

The National Rifle Association uses campaign expenditures and a rating system based on members' voting histories to exert influence over members of Congress. Use this graphic to see who gets the most -- and least -- support.

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About NRA ratings

The NRA grades candidates based on their voting record on gun issues or on a questionnaire.

A+ "Excellent voting record" and "vigorous effort" on gun rights.

A "Solidly pro-gun," backed NRA on key votes or has positive record on gun rights.

AQ Pro-gun rating based solely on a questionnaire and without a voting record.

B May have opposed "pro-gun reform" or backed some gun restrictions.

C "Not necessarily a passing grade." Mixed record" on gun votes.

D "Anti-gun" supporter of "gun control legislation" who "can usually be counted on to vote wrong on key issues."

F "True enemy of gun owners' rights."

NOTE: Career donations are totals since 1990.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/nra-congress/
 

senz

(11,945 posts)
12. Clinton supporters are like Limbaugh listeners on this subject.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 01:20 AM
Apr 2016

They believe what they believe and won't let the facts get in their way.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
17. I think that's true.
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:44 AM
Apr 2016

It's possible they see her through the lens of a poor, picked-on, struggling woman trying to make it in a man's world and this sympathetic "little Nell" image crowds out her moral depravity, total selfishness and inability to care for others.

It's too bad, because they are making a terrible mistake.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
19. I wonder why he let her kick his ass on this topic in the debate?
Fri Apr 15, 2016, 08:48 AM
Apr 2016

It's the one segment where it's been universally stated by all that he got his ass kicked.

He needs to have you do his research for him!

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