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Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:14 AM

On CNN just now, Robbie Mook, HRC campaign manager...

They asked him wouldn't he prefer big crowds like Bernie got last night....he said it wasn't as big as Bernie campaign said. He also said Hillary prefers small crowds.

They asked him about visit to Vatican, and he said that was up to the campaign, but Hillary was concentrating on New York. Of course they allowed him to get away with that. No question about her CA fundraiser.

They mentioned the "corporate whore" statement...Mook said he was glad Bernie FINALLY apologized for it.

It was disgusting.

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Reply On CNN just now, Robbie Mook, HRC campaign manager... (Original post)
Punkingal Apr 2016 OP
onehandle Apr 2016 #1
NorthCarolina Apr 2016 #12
Armstead Apr 2016 #15
athena Apr 2016 #30
Armstead Apr 2016 #35
athena Apr 2016 #36
Armstead Apr 2016 #37
athena Apr 2016 #38
Armstead Apr 2016 #41
JRLeft Apr 2016 #46
athena Apr 2016 #73
athena Apr 2016 #47
Armstead Apr 2016 #51
athena Apr 2016 #57
Armstead Apr 2016 #78
astrophuss42 Apr 2016 #81
tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #79
Cal Carpenter Apr 2016 #56
athena Apr 2016 #61
Kalidurga Apr 2016 #77
Cal Carpenter Apr 2016 #83
ibegurpard Apr 2016 #21
roguevalley Apr 2016 #89
hrmjustin Apr 2016 #2
Armstead Apr 2016 #16
hrmjustin Apr 2016 #24
Armstead Apr 2016 #26
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hrmjustin Apr 2016 #27
artislife Apr 2016 #74
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hrmjustin Apr 2016 #85
artislife Apr 2016 #87
hrmjustin Apr 2016 #88
firebrand80 Apr 2016 #3
Punkingal Apr 2016 #7
disillusioned73 Apr 2016 #48
MattP Apr 2016 #4
Armstead Apr 2016 #18
Silver_Witch Apr 2016 #5
Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #6
Punkingal Apr 2016 #10
rurallib Apr 2016 #28
Punkingal Apr 2016 #33
askew Apr 2016 #54
Segami Apr 2016 #8
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #9
Punkingal Apr 2016 #11
m-lekktor Apr 2016 #19
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #23
pdsimdars Apr 2016 #29
djean111 Apr 2016 #32
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #39
djean111 Apr 2016 #44
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #49
djean111 Apr 2016 #64
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #69
djean111 Apr 2016 #76
mrdmk Apr 2016 #90
Gwhittey Apr 2016 #40
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #45
Punkingal Apr 2016 #50
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #53
Punkingal Apr 2016 #55
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #60
Punkingal Apr 2016 #65
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #71
askew Apr 2016 #59
Blue Idaho Apr 2016 #67
frylock Apr 2016 #13
Hiraeth Apr 2016 #20
Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #43
BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #14
notadmblnd Apr 2016 #17
Punkingal Apr 2016 #22
notadmblnd Apr 2016 #25
reddread Apr 2016 #31
Faux pas Apr 2016 #34
Punkingal Apr 2016 #42
Faux pas Apr 2016 #52
askew Apr 2016 #63
Punkingal Apr 2016 #68
beaglelover Apr 2016 #58
Punkingal Apr 2016 #62
nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #70
NCTraveler Apr 2016 #66
Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #72
Myrina Apr 2016 #75
islandmkl Apr 2016 #80
Punkingal Apr 2016 #82
Peregrine Took Apr 2016 #84
Punkingal Apr 2016 #86

Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:15 AM

1. So Bernie shouldn't have apologized? nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:22 AM

12. In a world based in common sense, no.

 

We all know what the term "Corporate Whore" means, and it is the bread-and-butter to Third-Way Democrats. It's how they make their fortunes.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:22 AM

15. It was the "finally" part....It was a whole 12 hours (8 of those hours were sleep time)

 

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Response to Armstead (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:36 AM

30. How comforting to know that he is unable to respond to world events while asleep.

Doesn't he have people who let him know about this sort of thing? How will he deal with major issues that arise while he's asleep, in parts of the world where it's the middle of the day?

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Response to athena (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:39 AM

35. You mean the 3 am phone call? Sorry, that one's been used already.

 

I kind of think when there is a campaign event with over 20,000 people and a lot going on, a dumb phrased used by one of the speakers was not the most important thing in the world last night....Apples and oranges.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #35)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:40 AM

36. I guess it's not a priority that millions of women have been insulted.

No big deal. Can wait till morning.

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Response to athena (Reply #36)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:42 AM

37. I'm sure millions of women stayed up all night waiting for a 3 a.m. apology

 

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Response to Armstead (Reply #37)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:43 AM

38. My point exactly. Women don't count.

When someone insults women, women get mocked for being offended.

Unbelievable.

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Response to athena (Reply #38)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:44 AM

41. You're not giving women any credit...so be it

 

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Response to Armstead (Reply #41)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:48 AM

46. Hillary Clinton will play the victim role, even though she's the villain in Syria and LatiAmerica.

 

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:06 PM

73. I am not Hillary Clinton.

Once again, please stop confusing the comments posted here by Hillary's supporters with Hillary's own views.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #41)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:49 AM

47. I'm the one not giving women any credit?

Bernie has already indicated that he does not consider women's issues are not a priority. His supporters have pushed women's rights back by decades, by making it OK to insult women and mock them when they're offended.

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Response to athena (Reply #47)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:52 AM

51. Keep digging

 

I won't even dignify that total mischaracterization with an answer

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Response to Armstead (Reply #51)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:56 AM

57. Nastiness.

If you think this nastiness and condescension makes Bernie and his supporters look good, you're wrong.

But go on. Be even nastier. Be my guest. The more you insult and mock Hillary supporters, the more you refuse to address the comments people make, the more you make it clear that you don't, in fact, have answers.

The bottom line is that women are not a priority in Bernie's campaign. A large portion of Bernie supporters are woman-haters, which is why women are increasingly turning toward Hillary.

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Response to athena (Reply #57)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:15 PM

78. I am morre than happy to debate civilly and in good faith with peope who do likewise

 

But not when people say things like

"Bernie has already indicated that he does not consider women's issues are not a priority. His supporters have pushed women's rights back by decades..."

Not going there.

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Response to athena (Reply #57)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:24 PM

81. So very wrong

But however you get to sleep at night.

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Response to athena (Reply #36)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:15 PM

79. The term "whore" is not gender specific...

And "corporate whore" is gender neutral.

So stop with the faux outrage

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Response to athena (Reply #30)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:56 AM

56. Congrats, you win the Overwhelming Hyperbole award

and it is a tough pack you are competing against.

"World events"?

The internet and media pundit universe is flaming around overnight about the use of the term 'corporate whore' (by someone who is not even running for president) and you are equating that with Bernie's ability to deal with 'world events'?

I wonder if anyone will study the archives of DU someday to see how completely bankrupt the political discourse was in the primary 2016 season.

This madness puts 2004 and 2008 to shame. Looks like we weren't even trying back then.

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Response to Cal Carpenter (Reply #56)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:59 AM

61. So calling the first serious female candidate for president a "whore" is not a serious issue.

Waiting 12 hours to deal with it is not a problem.

Every post that defends this nastiness makes my point clearer to anyone who is not hopelessly biased in favor of Bernie.

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Response to athena (Reply #61)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:15 PM

77. Looks like you are the one reducing the whole term down to one word

Corporate Democratic Whores, it's not about Hillary alone it's about all the democrats that put corporate interests ahead of the interests of real people. And real people are suffering and dying and you have the gall to reduce that term down to one word and pretend you are outraged. Where is your outrage over issues of people dying and suffering under our current system while you cling to the status quo?

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Response to athena (Reply #61)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:47 PM

83. I defended nothing

I simply disagreed with your idea that this was akin to a major overnight 'world event'. And thought it was a prime example of how off-the-rails the convo here has gotten.

I do not think it is a problem that Bernie didn't 'deal with it' until this morning. The guy who said it apologized last night. This morning Bernie made it clear that such language is not okay in his campaign. In a sane world, that would be the end of the story in this context.

Sexism is a serious issue, and the use of the word whore in any context is arguably inappropriate. As a woman I think serious conversations do need to be had about the use of such words to dismiss people, especially women, in politics or anywhere else. Word choice matters. I would prefer specific and precise language to inflammatory language. However, no serious, intellectually honest conversation is being had here in GDP about that. All there is is opportunistic, partisan mud-slinging. So don't front about that, because I'm not playing.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:29 AM

21. Bernie didn't say it

And even if he had he shouldn't apologize for using an apt comparison for the specific type of politician that has infected the Democratic Party. But I understand why he apologized and don't hold it against him.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 02:24 PM

89. HRC ... I'm not sure whether to laugh or what. That is so utterly, utterly pathetic of them.

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:15 AM

2. Poor you! If you don't like the man you can turn the channel.

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:24 AM

16. Poor you! if you don't like the post don't read it.

 

It must have wounded you to take the time to comment on it.


See how that works?


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Response to Armstead (Reply #16)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:33 AM

24. Lol.

 




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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:34 AM

26. Oh what I could say about that clip

 

....but good taste prevents it

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Response to Armstead (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:36 AM

27. .

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #2)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:06 PM

74. We will

 

We will completely get up and leave.

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Response to artislife (Reply #74)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:05 PM

85. .

 

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #85)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:32 PM

87. ha ha ha, the joke will be on you. nt

 

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Response to artislife (Reply #87)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:33 PM

88. Careful! Your slip is showing,

 

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:16 AM

3. How dare he

Wait, what are we pissed about?

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Response to firebrand80 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:19 AM

7. Corporate media whores for one thing.

liars for another.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:49 AM

48. I see what u did there..

 

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:17 AM

4. That video of Song was very disgusting

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Response to MattP (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:26 AM

18. I have some smelling salts in the car if you need them

 

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:18 AM

5. Hillary supporters are awake I see!

 

Welcome...hope you got a good nights sleep!

Thank you OP for an informative article about the media and its bias for Mrs. Clinton or Secretary of State Clinton or Senator Clinton. Don't want to offend any Clinton supporters by calling her by the wrong Title!

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:18 AM

6. This is kind of off subject.

But, I think it is pretty cool that Mook is the first openly gay person to run a Prez campaign and that it is no issue at all. Don't think even Trump or Cruz have mentioned it.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:20 AM

10. I didn't know that, but I agree that's a good thing.

I don't think even Trump would go there, or Cruz.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:36 AM

28. Whatever he is, he is doing a terrible job

her team has taken a sure thing and turned it into a possible loser.
If she gets the nomination, i sure hope they don't screw up the presidential campaign as badly as they have dome the primary.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:38 AM

33. It's not the campaign...it's the candidate.

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Response to rurallib (Reply #28)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:55 AM

54. At some point, people have to stop blaming Hillary's staff and start realizing that she is the

Problem. She brought in top Obama people who helped him win in 2008 and 2012 and she is still a giant mess. If Deval Patrick or Elizabeth Warren had run against Hillary, this race would be over and she'd be a 2-time loser. She just isn't a good candidate.

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:19 AM

8. I thought they would have asked Robbie if Hillary

 

demands that the crust be trimmed on all her sandwiches.


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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:19 AM

9. Bernie should have apologized at his rally

The excuse that it happened before he arrived is meaningless. It's his rally - he is running for President. He is responsible for everything that happened at that podium. Instead, he showed how out of touch he is and how dysfunctional his campaign staff really is.

The only other explanation is - he wanted that despicable comment to marinate in the media for a while to do more damage to the Democratic Party.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:21 AM

11. The damage that has been done to the Democratic party has been done by the Clintons and their ilk.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:27 AM

19. I completely agree! I loathe the Clintons. nt

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:33 AM

23. The real question is...

when Bernie suspends his campaign - will you support Sec. Clinton's bid for the Presidency?

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:36 AM

29. The only occassion he will suspend his campaign is when he is taking the oath of office for the

 

Presidency. . . . . And by the time he's done with his 8 years, Hillary will be too old to run by then.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:38 AM

32. Nobody gives a flying fuck for that loyalty pledge thing any more.

 

Plus, it is none of your business. That is the real answer.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #32)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:43 AM

39. I'll take that as a no then... Nt.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #39)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:46 AM

44. So what, really? That's quite a bit of silly hubris, to say the least.

 

Are ya makin' a list, checkin' it twice? Gonna wave it around like Joe McCarthy?

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Response to djean111 (Reply #44)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:49 AM

49. Nope...

Simple enough question, sorry you feel so defensive about answering it.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #49)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:01 PM

64. Not defensive, nice try, just tired of the loyalty crap that has been flung around for well over

 

a year now, like it is supposed to be ominous and authoritative and full of dire consequences from whoever decides to pipe up with it.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #64)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:04 PM

69. Not how I meant it...

But I get that passions run high. I'm just a guy who thinks electing Democrats is always better than electing Republicans - warts and all.

You may, of course, see it differently.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #69)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:07 PM

76. 'bye

 

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #69)

Fri Apr 15, 2016, 03:07 AM

90. Concur, Bye! On ignore

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:44 AM

40. If I say No will that give you some

 

Fapping material for later?

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Response to Gwhittey (Reply #40)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:47 AM

45. Typical Berniebot response...

Short on content - long on anger.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #45)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:51 AM

50. Typical Hillbot response....calling a Bernie supporter a name and characterizing them.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #50)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:54 AM

53. Not characterizing the person - just the response

And when it comes to calling names and characterizing people... Pot - kettle - black.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #53)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:56 AM

55. Go right ahead and be blind to the truth.

When you wake up and the fascist take-over of our country is complete, will you be happy?

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #55)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:58 AM

60. Will there be re-education camps

And chemtrails?

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #60)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:02 PM

65. Pathetic.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #65)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:05 PM

71. Agreed.

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Response to Blue Idaho (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:58 AM

59. People have using the term corporate whore to apply to men and women for years now.

Hillary's team decided to use that as an excuse to attack Bernie and twist it into something sexist because they are desperate and have nothing else. Bernie couldn't have realized that they were going to do that. In the future, Bernie needs to make sure all of the people speaking at his events don't say anything that can be twisted as sexist because Hillary lives for perpetual victimhood.

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Response to askew (Reply #59)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:02 PM

67. Or maybe just because

the term "whore" really is sexist and beyond the pale. Don't know why supporters are rushing to defend the comments since Sen. Sanders has said "there is no room in our campaign for language like that."

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:22 AM

13. Mook

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Response to frylock (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:28 AM

20. lol

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Response to frylock (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:46 AM

43. It's OK to write "mook"

Just don't post a definition of the word

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:22 AM

14. Of course Hillary prefers small crowds

Small crowds full of rich people who pay $2700 per head and bundle $2700 per person from their well to do subordinates and business associates they are able to bully into contributions. The Queen doesn't like to have to mix with people outside of her social circle.

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:25 AM

17. We just need to accept the fact that HRC needs every plug she can get.

That's why she has so many Hill Shills out trolling for her.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:32 AM

22. Too bad for democracy that the media shills for her.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #22)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:34 AM

25. Yes, I agree it is unfortunate.

But hopefully, change is coming.

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Response to notadmblnd (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:37 AM

31. we have met the enemy

 

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:39 AM

34. Yeah, her

small intimate secret crowds really impress the hell out of me...NOT.

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #34)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:44 AM

42. After Mook went off they had Begala and Brazille on there, and others.

Begala and Brazille actually said with straight faces, that crowd sizes were not important.

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #42)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:52 AM

52. Lol

Not in our world, huh?

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Response to Punkingal (Reply #42)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:00 PM

63. They said the same nonsense in 2008 when Obama was getting larger crowds all over

The country. But, at least back then, Hillary could still draw a decent crowd. Now, she can only get over 1,000 attendees if she counts all of her volunteers, staff and Dem insiders. It's pathetic.

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Response to askew (Reply #63)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:03 PM

68. i wondered about that...I didn't remember they said that then.

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 11:56 AM

58. Oh NO, someone was on CNN talking bad about St Bernard!!! OH NOES!!!! What are we to do?????

Stop whining. Jesus Christ!

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Response to beaglelover (Reply #58)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:00 PM

62. I don't whine...and I feel sorry for you. It must be difficult to be so deluded.

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Response to beaglelover (Reply #58)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:05 PM

70. Oh no sme body using a dog whistle

 

That I can hear!!!!

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:02 PM

66. "It was disgusting." Spot on. The comment should have no place at a campaign rally. nt.

 

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #66)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:06 PM

72. Agreed.

The inadvertent placement of that phrase was perfect.

"It was disgusting."

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:06 PM

75. Dizzy from the spinnin' !!!

Woooooo!!!!!

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:22 PM

80. my geography is a little shaky...what part of NY are SF and LA in...

are they over west...like around Buffalo...she's really covering the state this weekend...

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Response to islandmkl (Reply #80)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:24 PM

82. Yep...they let him get away with that.

That is what totally pissed me off.

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Response to Punkingal (Original post)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 12:57 PM

84. Imagine. A grown man calling himself "Robbie" - is he going out to play stickball next?

Have a playing card in the spokes in his bike?

Wear a beanie with a propeller on it?

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Response to Peregrine Took (Reply #84)

Thu Apr 14, 2016, 01:07 PM

86. Snort...

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