Whoa! What's going on here this morning? Another feigned outrage I see.

[Avalux]

I swear, it's always a surprise when I log in to see the latest posts.

Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE on DU knows the meaning and context of "corporate whore".

It has absolutely nothing to do with being a woman, or providing sex for money.

Get over yourselves already and talk about issues, or is that something you just can't do?

[DanTex]

1. Bernie saw fit to apologize. Apparently he and his fans aren't on the same page.

[2pooped2pop]

2. we dont have to be in agreement on everything

Bernie did what he felt he needed to do. The rest of us are not obligated to act like truth is incorrect because of the way it was framed. She is what she is.

I mean, really? after all of the Bernie should apologize threads, when he does, all you have left is what his supporters on this particular site say? Whining is not attractive.

[DanTex]

4. You certainly don't. You can say all the offensive things that you want, and Bernie can't stop you.

I say, go for it.

[2pooped2pop]

5. well, there are rules on this board. so I can't say what I really feel about Hillary

[DanTex]

13. But there are no rules at Bernie rallies. Everyone gets to see the nastiness and the smears.

[2pooped2pop]

80. awww you try so hard

And it still only comes out as a meek little whine.

[DanTex]

83. I'm not too worried about it, after all, my candidate's going to win the nomination.

[2pooped2pop]

86. if she does it will hand the presidency to the republicans

And you can all pat yourselves on the back.

[revbones]

21. Yeah, like CP Time in a minstrel skit. Oh wait...

[JTFrog]

62. Somehow I doubt you really give any fucks about that and only hoped it would hurt her.

No one is buying the faux outrage.

[JoePhilly]

18. Exactly correct.

Yup ... his most disgruntled supporters want Bernie to use that phrase and apply it to Hillary.

I'm betting he does not do that during the debate.

[bkkyosemite]

24. The rally was fantastic and the crowd enormous...wasn't it wonderful!

[senz]

74. YES. It was a thing of beauty -- and that is why they did this.

When some people want something and can't have it, they try to spoil it so no one else can enjoy it either.

But they failed.

[beedle]

46. When is Hillary going to apologize for this?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1728442

Clinton super delegates that voted for ANTI LGBT legislation ... not just some simple words uttered by someone (with only one vote in the NY Primaries) introducing Bernie, but a bunch of super delegates (each with about 10,000 votes worth of primary candidate selection power) that actually voted for fucking ANTI LGBT legislation.

I assume you and Hillary on the same page? Against the LGBT community?

[TheBlackAdder]

124. Question: Do you get an extra nickel if you're the first one to reply to an OP?

.


I find it humerous how fast and often certain users are always jumping on the posts, like there is a competition.


It seems to be 5 SBS and 12 HRC users doing it.


.

[m-lekktor]

6. Aren't they fucking ridiculous? nt

[Dem2]

7. It's real

Thus both Paul and Bernie have disavowed this over the top statement.

[Avalux]

29. The outrage is fabricated, Bernie disavowed to stop the stupidity. n/t

[Dem2]

37. It's real

When I saw the full comment in context, I could only post one thing.

"Oh my god"

I was shocked that people were hiding the full context - he really is linking "Secretary Clinton" and "corporate Democratic whores".

It's indefensible and by continuing to deny that this was a really stupid thing to say, you're in essence promoting this "fake" outrage.

[Dragonfli]

42. The term has such a distinctive and well known meaning and used so often it is definable

and defensible. For those of you that rarely talk politics or are simply pretending to be too dumb to know the meaning of the word employed in political context, be assured it is very well known and defined especially by the politically literate.

[font size="5" color="blue"][center]corporate whore[/center][/font]


One who has sold more than their labor to the corporation; one who has forsaken personal values and constitution for corporate $$; meaning of "whore" belittled when preceded by the word “corporate”; person who will sell their soul for $$.
My efforts are not driven by my passion for work, but by my own gluttony, my addition to money. I have become what I once despised—forsaken myself, I am a corporate whore.

Some of them are Republicans, some of them are Democrats, but few have so openly sacrificed their values at the corporate alter of greed. As Bill and Hilary Clinton (within our party at least)

[Dem2]

50. Context matters

If it makes you feel any better, the expression is well worn and acceptable to me and I'm sure most people here.

But NOT in the CONTEXT in which is was used.

The linkage is unmistakable and indefensible.

[Dragonfli]

53. It was used in a political context, stop pretending to be dumb, I know you aren't. /nt

[Kalidurga]

106. Are you sure

[Dragonfli]

108. I actually am sure, the poster is often disingenuous, but I do not think him/her stupid /nt

[Kalidurga]

112. disingenuous

in my world that equals stupid. Because the person that is doing that is assuming they are getting something over on me. They aren't. But, if they do for a moment and I find out. Well, I will leave a trail of butt hurts all over the place and that person won't know why they are having trouble sitting down.

[Dragonfli]

117. LOL, I disagree that one can not be disingenuous without also being stupid, but I agree

some butts do need kicking. Feel free to defend yourself against those that would "bamboozle" you and let the bruising land where it may!

[bvar22]

134. In the early days , when DU was a Liberal Board,

this was posted regularly without complaint or feigned outrage:

Who is the Conservative Corporate Whore?

.
.
.
.
.
Ha,ha.
Trick Question.
They BOTH are.


For those needing an ID, the woman on the left is former Texas Republican Senator, Kay Bailey Hutchison who never met a WAR she didn't like.
The woman on the right is Democratic Senator Diane Feinstein, who also never met a WAR she didn't like. Her husband makes MILLIONS from sweetheart government deals, especially WAR.

[Dem2]

135. Then it's good that we've progressed beyond what is clearly misogyny

Just because it was posted then, doesn't mean it's appropriate now.

Context matters and what is offensive in a particular example can change over time.

It's called progress and people who promote this are called progressives.

[bvar22]

136. I believe that the word is appropriate for those who sell themselves for money,

male or female.
Of course, you are entitled to you opinion, even when FAR wrong and WAY off base.

[beedle]

49. so is this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1728442

[VulgarPoet]

8. But the poutrage must be whipped!

There are coffees of cantankerosity to be had, and they wouldn't do without only the freshest froth of poutrage!

[Bonobo]

9. Yes, it is their way of filibustering. nt

[haikugal]

22. That's exactly what it is and they'll govern the same way.

[Avalux]

26. What a nightmare that would be. n/t

[GoneFishin]

10. Yep. Faux outrage.

[bkkyosemite]

27. Detracting from what really happened...a swarm of enthusiasm.

[speaktruthtopower]

11. Right.

[Impedimentus]

12. Depression expressed as outrage ?

“It is important not to suppress your feelings altogether when you are depressed. It is equally important to avoid terrible arguments or expressions of outrage. You should steer clear of emotionally damaging behavior. People forgive, but it is best not to stir things up to the point at which forgiveness is required. When you are depressed, you need the love of other people, and yet depression fosters actions that destroy that love. Depressed people often stick pins into their own life rafts. The conscious mind can intervene. One is not helpless.” Andrew Solomon

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

[Nanjeanne]

14. I hope the prostitutes of NY rise up and complain about being compared to

Corporate shills like Hillary and ilk.

[Avalux]

25. Hopefully they're voting for Bernie!

[m-lekktor]

35. Exactly! STOP INSULTING WHORES!! lol nt

[procon]

66. Stop insulting women, all women.

More women vote than men. Defending men who attack women in terms of their gender is a losing strategy. Song could have pursued that same line of criticism against Clinton by using any other word in a thesaurus. Now, Sanders is making headline news, not for his political platform, but for his public apologies as he tries to undo the damages and rehab his messaging to counter the continuing impression that his campaign is anti-woman.

[procon]

72. Well, this will certain have a 2nd life as one of tonight's debate questions.

It's getting a lot harder to sweep the misogynistic remarks under the rug, and today they're overshadowing every headline what should have been a day to celebrate Sander's impressive rally that was more than 27,000-strong.

[procon]

132. And yet the news media, every journalist, commentator and pundit is

exclusively focused on the story that someone in Bernie Sanders campaign just referred to the woman who is the Democratic frontrunner as a whore.

Can't run from the backfire in a 24/7 news cycle.

[m-lekktor]

73. Men get paid for sex as well. The term whores is not gender specific.

Trust me, the only people getting wound up over this are partisan Hillary people who are spinning this thinking they will gain politically from it. The general public will not give a fuck. you all are deluded. people are not getting wound up over insults towards corrupt politicians.

[procon]

92. That excuse doesn't make sense.

If the complaints and criticisms were only coming from gender specific websites, commentators, journalists, you might get some traction with that line. However, that's not what's happening, and even Sanders is apologizing for the unearned error he's now tagged with thanks to his own surrogate's ill chosen words.

If there was as little public interest as you claim, the news cycle would have already moved on to more revenue generating topics, but that's not what's happening either. This remains one of today's top headlines, and it will get even more traction, and generate still more public interest, when it pops up as a hot topic in tonight's debate.

Ignoring Bernie's woman problem is what's delusional. When his followers keep it going by floating these cringe worthy evasions it's petty and embarrassing and against everything he is trying to accomplish.

[Avalux]

78. That's what you want the impression to be, sorry it's not working.

You know that comment wasn't about gender or anything else other than what it was really about - people who run for office, take money from corps, then when elected, do their bidding.

Most people aren't stupid enough to buy your line of bullshit.

[procon]

138. You must be right, of course.

Sanders has officially denounced the controversial comment, calling his surrogate's words, "inappropriate and insensitive". Even the speaker has apologized. Is Sanders saying something different in private to his loyal fans, such as yourself, that leads you to believe that he welcomes your polemic reinterpretation, or encourages you to defend remarks that he's already said has no place in his political discussion?

As a means of attracting new voters to join Sanders, your methodology needs some work.

[potone]

15. Yes. I was wondering abou that, too.

Apparently you need to keep your smelling salts close at hand before you enter this site, or the news will flatten you for the day. For some reason, the Hillary supporters are unwilling to debate policies, so this expression of false "outrage" is what we get instead.

[Tarc]

16. This coming from Camp Sanders, who needs a fainting couch for "CP Time", is pretty funny

[cwydro]

33. I know, right?

I didn't see your post before I posted mine.

But my thought exactly.

[beedle]

52. Hillary supports didn't faint over this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1728442

Which I can only assume means that Hillary and her supporters support anti LGBT legislation.

[Tarc]

97. IMO, I think the entire NC delegation should be unseated at the convention

Which will cost Hillary 20 delegates, but that's the message that needs to be sent that this shit is unacceptable.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

96. So, that racist "joke" didn't bother you? I'm not surprised. nt

[Tarc]

98. It didn't bother many black people either

What is your level of "surprise" there?

[ChisolmTrailDem]

99. So, according to you and "many black people", anyone can use that term any time they want? nt

[Tarc]

100. Perhaps you should ask President Obama about that

You're trying to make this into a Macaca moment, and it just isn't that. It was a black joke told by white people, and that sorta thing generally flops, as this one painfully did.

The point here is, context matters. If someone had some secretly recorded Di blasio, say, commenting on a black guy being late to a meeting, and he said "well you know them black people, they're never on time", THAT would probably been widely condemned.

This ain't that, and it's time for Camp Sanders to build a bridge and get over it.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

103. I didn't ask President Obama. I asked you. Please answer my question. nt

[Tarc]

104. Your question was answered, you're just unable to figure it out.

I'll give you a hint; it is a word that begins with "c" and ends in "ontext".

[ChisolmTrailDem]

107. I'm unable to figure it out? Is that your shady way of calling me stupid? Is it ok or not...

...to use the phrase "CP Time"?

[Tarc]

109. I love copy & paste

I'll give you a hint; it is a word that begins with "c" and ends in "ontext".

[ChisolmTrailDem]

111. I know what the fuck context is. So you're saying it's ok for some and not ok for others. So, is...

...it ok for me to use it? I can use it if I do so in the correct context?

[Tarc]

114. I don't know you personally, nor do I really care to. It isn't for me to say

If you have black friends and one of them shows up late to something, if you all are comfortable enough with each other then hey, knock yourself out and try saying "oh that so-and-so, always late".

In this context, Di blasio (you remember him, the guy with the multi-racial family?) made a dumb joke, not a racist joke.

Difference.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

118. No, I don't remember DiBlasio...

...with the multi-racial family... You do think I'm stupid.

I don't think the term "cp time" is appropriately said by anyone, no matter their skin color or their family's ethnicity. The same way I feel about the n-word. NO ONE SHOULD BE SAYING THOSE THINGS!

[Tarc]

120. Perhaps there's some sort of cream for that thin skin, then

[ChisolmTrailDem]

121. On ignore you go. Bye. nt

[Tarc]

123. I'm glad you blinked first

Easy as pie.

[beam me up scottie]

17. Join the party:

[Punkingal]

39. LOL...thank you!

[Avalux]

56. LOL!

Good one!

[brush]

19. Guess you didn't hear. Bernie himself had the sense to disavow that disrespectful crap

“Dr. Song’s comment was inappropriate and insensitive. There’s no room for language like that in our political discourse,” Sanders tweeted Thursday.

[Avalux]

23. Yes to make it go away or else Hillary Inc. will not shut up about it. n/t

[brush]

58. He did the right thing. Dems should not be using that kind of language towards other dems

Whoever is running the Sanders campaign needs to reassess because he's not being well-served by his advisers — what with Pope-gate, NYDN-gate and now Whore-gate all in the same week leading up to the New York primary, the most important one to date.

WTF is going on?

[Avalux]

60. All those GATES are bullshit made up by Hillary Inc.

You know why too - a distraction to keep people from actually paying attention to what matters. I hope you're not so naive as to believe there's any legitimacy to them. If you do you've been hoodwinked.

[brush]

94. No legitimacy you say? But they actually happened. Can't deny that.

[Trajan]

81. I love Bernie, but he doesn'tt control my beliefs

This is a bunch of malarkey ...

Hillary is clearly focused on the needs of the rich, corporate puppet masters who fund her campaign ...

You don't like the word ? .. Who the fuck cares?

But I do thank you for mentioning it ... Byebye

[brush]

95. Don't you really mean bye-bye Bernie after he loses this primary?

No thanks to his handlers who pulled the "audience with the Pope" stunt, the whore debacle, the Daily News fail — all not good.

[onehandle]

20. You guys can't let it go. His campaign used it, he apologized. Move on...

...and stop using that word.

[haikugal]

28. No.

[cwydro]

30. All the outrage about DeBlasio's comment from "you guys" lol.

But calling a woman a whore is all well and good.

Ok, I think I got it now.

Carry on.

[bkkyosemite]

31. Then tell your friends to stop complaining about it. The rally was fantastic.

[ieoeja]

47. Corporate whores are corporate whores. And I really miss mediawhoresonline.com. n/t

[senz]

65. From someone who spent yesterday in faux outrage

all over this forum pretending to be upset by the use of the common term "corporate whore," this is rich.

All bad behavior yesterday was on the part of those who created this phony outrage in hopes of tarnishing something beautiful that engenders their envy.

That is the problem.

[choie]

32. been going on for the last 12 hours....

they got NOTHING!

[ViseGrip]

34. It's a distraction from the new offshoring report, everyone's involved in except Bernie!

Can't wait until tonight! Let them have at it....because this is not what the campaign is working on today!

Clinton's are in a tailspin with internal movement so fast it's hard to gauge, AND the news of Clinton's using the Delaware offshore account firm. Way to go Hillary. Why doesn't she just carry on, continue making all the money the Pope says is addiction, and forget trying to convince people she should be OUR president. It's comical, and tragic at the same time.

[randome]

36. "Delaware offshore"?

You really didn't read any of those threads, did you?
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't ever underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

[Avalux]

38. Thanks for that info, wasn't aware.

This sort of thing usually is a distraction from the stuff that matters.

[KingFlorez]

41. By that logic the word is okay is you put another word in front of it

Corporate being in front of it makes it totally fine. Got it.

[Avalux]

43. Quit obfuscating.

The term has been used for years and we all know what it means. Thank you very much.

[KingFlorez]

48. Quit being delusional

You know it was wrong and you need to stop dodging that fact.

[Avalux]

51. It may not have been appropriate to say at Bernie's rally.

But to come to DU and see Hillary supporters losing their minds over it is ridiculous. It's not important.

[beedle]

55. They love to complain about words

but will make excuses for actions

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1728442

[nolabels]

75. Well what would you expect from a bunch of lawyers?

That is the problem, many politicians are of the lawyer trade. In earlier times it was okay because the politicians ran on their own volition.
In today's world, they are lawyers culled by principles with deep financial interests that have the number one priority to make rich people richer with as much lawyer-ease as needed. It's no accident the places where they store law books occupy many large rooms and buildings. It's insurance the that lawyers will eventually get their way no matter how corrupt things are.

Most occupations that had such a dubious record as lawyers would have regulated or even outlawed in most plural societies. Yet they proliferate around the world and have the US capitol as their base of operation. It seems obvious they will give all kinds or rational for it. But the end game is they cannot in this space and time defend the results.

Yea, it's not the words, but the real intent behind them

[Marr]

133. This is why it's so hard to take Hillary supporters seriously:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x476320

This kind of self-serving hypocrisy pops up again and again and again. It's like you have no principles whatsoever, beyond 'what's best for my team at this moment'. It makes it very hard to give any credence at all to the Hillary camp's complaints.

[nruthie]

44. I am frankly sick of this entire fiasco.

Neither of these candidates inspire me anymore. They're both acting like Republicans.

[pinebox]

45. Hillary supporters are upset about this

It's like they woke up and saw the sun for the first time, ever. Big ball of fire. It will kill us all. RUN!

[Avalux]

54. LOL!

Thanks for the laugh - needed it!

[xloadiex]

59. They need to grab a dictionary

According to Websters

Whore

3
: a venal or unscrupulous person

[notadmblnd]

57. Yes, poor, poor Hillary

She's still in the ladies room crying. She's locked the door and won't let anyone in lest they see her suffering from the Vapors.. She's so personally insulted and hurt by the comment- delicate flower that she is and all.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

61. Gotta be outraged about something.

The only alternative would be having to talk about actual issues.

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

63. We're breaking through some double standards in 2016

Remember when we only commented about a woman's hair, face, attire (did we make fat jokes about female candidates?).

All of those double standards came crashing down this year. Everyone is fair game.

But we're not ready for media whore. Too soon.

[DrDan]

64. you should explain that to Bernie - he finds it inappropriate

[Avalux]

69. That's what he said, yes. I don't think it is though.

That term is common, and used a lot here on DU. It wasn't even directed at Hillary so yeah whatever.

[DrDan]

89. wow

[senz]

67. We have something beautiful that makes them envious, so they try to tarnish it

with faux outrage clogging up these forums for an entire day with their disgusting messes.

It's pure envy. They don't have anything as good and real and promising as the Bernie Sanders campaign and the jealousy is eating them up.

So they throw mud and filth at the very thing they can't have.

That's all this is.

[Avalux]

68. They need to join us instead.

It's as if they're holding onto and defending a bad relationship that's never going to get any better (and will probably get worse), when they just need to walk away and move towards the future with the rest of us.

[senz]

88. That sums it up, Avalux.

If only they knew that their envy is based in a real desire for what is good. Instead they try to ruin the good so that no one can have it. You're so right that they would be happier if they joined us.

Maybe they will, when Bernie wins the nomination.

[Autumn]

70. This is a non-issue, pumped up by Hillary supporters.

Silly, they have nothing else so it's time to pull out the Clinton trick of parsing words.

[workinclasszero]

71. "Dr. Song's comment was inappropriate and insensitive." Bernie Sanders

Bernie Sanders says you are WRONG!

[senz]

77. Bernie just wanted to dismiss the latest jealous outburst from Hill folk.

He doesn't have time for your nonsense.

[mmonk]

76. This is an issue free zone.

[nichomachus]

79. They kind of wore out the Papal Poutrage and had to come up with something.

Cut them some slack -- a "scandal" a day is hard to maintain -- especially when you're busy assembling the transcripts of your Wall St. speeches so people can finally read them. (She is, isn't she?)

[longship]

82. True, but in context it bordered on cringe-worthy.

However, let those screeching about the "corporate whore" metaphor fall on their fainting couches over Hillary Clinton has sold her soul to the devil.

All one needs to do is to look at her fucking donor list. One then knows that she metaphorically both has sold her soul, and is a corporate whore.

Both are metaphors, a concept about which both Hillary and her supporters seem to be uneducated about.

Let them now screech about "selling ones soul".

It won't do any good.

[Avalux]

85. Be careful when you sell your soul, you may not like the new owner.

Hillary supporters need to ponder that statement - for a good long time.

[longship]

87. That's why I chose that metaphor.

I think it's apt.

[senz]

91. Hillary herself needs to ponder it.

Maybe she will after she loses the nomination.

That might be the best thing that could ever happen to her.

[ladjf]

84. Your post should be read by all objectors to the "corporate whore" phrase and then

they should "shut the hell up" and stop wasting everyone's time with irrelevant obfuscations.

[NorthCarolina]

90. It's all they have. No way can they ever discuss Issues. nt

[pdsimdars]

93. Yes it is getting tiring, that every day they come up with some new outrage to deflect

from having to defend their candidates's positions.

You NEVER hear them talk about real issues, like the economy, wage gap, her healthcare plan, GLOBAL WARMING and what she would do about it . .. seeing as how she gets so much money from fossil fuel industry and promoted fracking around the world. .


EXHAUSTING, every day, the fake distractions. . . . and now we find out they are PAYING people to go online to create this cloud of distraction and outrage. TOO MUCH!

[yourpaljoey]

101. Funny, isn't it... sad, but funny

[Politicalboi]

102. Not according to Hillbots

They somehow associate her with that word.

I know I do too. It's the right description for her.

[Fuddnik]

105. A term that has been thrown around this site for years, is suddenly offensive.

We all know what a "corporate whore" is, and could name quite few of them instantly. And the vast majority would be men.

Oh, the horror.

(looking for place to faint)

[Tarc]

110. It's just dog-whistling by yet another Sanders camp person. The sad thing is...

...it really isn't much of a surprise anymore. Bros gotta bro, ad all.

[Cassiopeia]

130. Wait. You're blaming Bernie supporters

For the outrage of the day by Hillary supporters.

That's some amazing spin.

[litlbilly]

115. theyve got nothing else but the meme of the day.

[CentralCoaster]

116. Yup. And the truth of last night is right here:

[Avalux]

128. That is a GORGEOUS photo! n/t

[Little_Wing]

119. People. People. It's 2016... the correct term is "corporate escort"

Corporate whore is so last millenium...

[Kittycat]

122. The problem is they KNOW what corporate whore means

They just don't like that Third Way candidates are being called out for being them, publicly. It's okay when it's on DU, and kind of shh on the board. But over a mic, where a news camera might hear another dem call a dem a corporate whore, and OMG where's the Wahmbulance. Full on poutrage.

[Vinca]

125. This particular poutrage has gotten the media downright orgasmic.

I had CNN on a little while ago and some poor woman who supports Bernie was being badgered about whether Bernie saying it was unacceptable was enough. And I thought to myself . . . what exactly do they want? Should Bernie drag the guy back to Washington Square and cut his tongue out or something? WTF do they want? It's an election. People say shit without thinking. This is not an isolated event that has happened to just one campaign. It's not the end of the world as we know it.

[TheDormouse]

126. I think I just had to delete like 30 threads--never did that before

Soooo utterly ridiculous.

[seekthetruth]

127. Is anyone really calling Hillary a whore?

No! And if any supporters of Sanders are, then they don't speak for me or our candidate. So quick to pull the sexism card because that's all her side has!

She supports fracking, supports war, supports monied interests, and supports the establishment.

Of course she's not a whore! But, she isn't what our country needs right now! The middle class is shrinking, student and consumer debt is at an all time high, and she has proven her propensity to work through issues at the barrel of the US military arsenal, and she has too close of ties to the corporate elite.

Do Hill supporters really think that we're just going to cave in on our principles in November? I won't, and I won't!

Good luck with the Drumpf administration, because that's what we'll have if Hill is the nominee.

[Sky Masterson]

129. They've got nothing.

At this point its a mental disorder.

[noiretextatique]

137. I agree, but I have to push back a bit

I do not believe this would be an issue against a republican, but the word is sexist.