2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Fix: No matter how you measure it, Bernie Sanders isn’t winning the Democratic primary
When you walk into Hillary Clintons national campaign headquarters in downtown Brooklyn, the first thing you see is an unsubtle reminder of the state of the race. There on the wall facing the reception desk is a huge chart, with every single pledged delegate and the state in which each was won indicated. There it is, in a series of filled-in blue and pink boxes: Why Clinton will almost certainly be her partys nominee.
That bit of data hasnt been universally embraced.
The delegate count is the only tally that matters in determining who will win each partys nominating contest. Its always been that way, but over time the selection of those delegates became more democratic. Right now the nomination process exists as a sort of demi-democratic process in which elections were retrofit to work with the internal decision-making processes of each party. So there are still vestiges of weirdness: caucuses, unpledged delegates and superdelegates and the conventions themselves. These are not the way purely democratic elections work.
Which is why some people are skeptical. The New York Times had an article over the weekend detailing the extent to which people think the process is at odds with democracy. It included this paragraph:
It is not true that Sanders is having trouble catching Clinton because of her overwhelming lead with superdelegates. He is having trouble catching her because he trails her badly with pledged delegates (as on that sign at Clinton headquarters), and the states he keeps winning are smaller states with fewer delegates given out.
In fact, by every possible democratic measure, Clinton is winning. Shes winning in states (and territories) won, which isnt a meaningful margin of victory anyway. She's winning in the popular vote by 2.4 million votes more than a third more than Sanders has in total. In part thats because Sanders is winning lower-turnout caucuses, but its mostly because hes winning smaller states. And shes winning with both types of delegates.
So why is this bewildering? Because it seems like Sanders should be gaining big ground against Clinton and so superdelegates get blamed.
Party nominations are not federal elections. Theyre party-run and have a lot of idiosyncrasies as a result. But more voters have voted for the front-runner in each party than for the runners-up. Thats what democratic results are supposed to look like.
The question thats worth asking is why supporters of trailing candidates think that democracy is being subverted and who benefits from their thinking that. But well leave that to you to assess.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/04/11/no-matter-how-you-measure-it-bernie-sanders-isnt-winning-the-democratic-primary/
Reality, what a concept!
jonno99
(2,620 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Some really big wins in certainl states by Clinton keeps her ahead overall, interesting to see the full break down. Texas/Florida/Georgia really were big for her, hard to catch back up.
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)and there is equal probability she will lose
against Kasich or Ryan.
Happy now?
brush
(53,764 posts)Kasich has won one state and Ryan isn't even running (and who would after the way Joe Biden schooled him in 2012 made him look like a junior high school kid).
Beacool
(30,247 posts)They can't deny him the nomination if he ends up ahead in the pledged delegate count. They might hate it, but they'll have little choice.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)It ain't that complicated. If a candidate is ahead by 250 pledged delegates and 2.4M votes, then that candidate is winning by any measurable standard.