Well, isn't that just lovely, Thom?

[NuclearDem]

[jfern]

1. 85% of her voters in one county were disabled? I don't think so.

[NuclearDem]

3. Whoosh.

[passiveporcupine]

10. In Laramie county, Wyoming

621 surrogate ballots were turned in. 402 went to Clinton, and 215 went to Sanders.

Out of over 800 people who showed up, 329 went to Clinton and 474 went to Sanders.

http://www.wyomingnews.com/news/new-clinton-supporters-slightly-outnumber-sanders-camp-at-laramie-county/article_97ebaff2-fe9e-11e5-a8e8-73e7ed6c9c66.html

[Sancho]

68. Disabled from shooting themselves in the foot?

...it's not a mystery. Here in Florida many Democrats vote by mail. Those who are loyal and registered are the most likely to vote by mail - they are already on the list.

Last minute and impulsive and party switchovers tend to show up too late to get the mail-in ballots down here.

We have all kinds of typos, screw ups, misprints, and foolishness with our ballots. Maybe some other parts of the country are getting into the election manipulation fun that Florida has enjoyed for almost 20 years!

[jfern]

104. But there was supposed to be a reason to vote absentee in Wyoming.

[TexasTowelie]

109. Trouble with math or was it a typo?

402 votes by surrogate ballots / 731 total votes = 55%

[jfern]

110. She had 625 surrogate votes

[TexasTowelie]

111. No she didn't, read the article again:

In total, just over 800 Laramie County voters showed up to make their presidential preference known, and 621 people turned in surrogate ballots.

Of those in-person voters, 329 sided with Clinton and 474 were for Sanders.

Of the more than 600 surrogate ballots received, 402 went in favor of Clinton and a mere 215 went to Sanders.

Clinton received 731 of those 1,430 total votes while Sanders took 689 – a 42-vote difference.

http://www.wyomingnews.com/news/new-clinton-supporters-slightly-outnumber-sanders-camp-at-laramie-county/article_97ebaff2-fe9e-11e5-a8e8-73e7ed6c9c66.html

Clinton had 402 surrogate ballots and 731 total ballots. 402/731 = 55%

[Agschmid]

113. She did not, this is not factual.

[revbones]

2. So saying disabled were solicited is an insult? How's that work? nt

[NuclearDem]

5. The disabled have a right to participate in politics too, you know.

Even in caucuses.

[revbones]

7. You're twisting my words. I asked how saying they were solicited is insulting? nt

[Fast Walker 52]

21. exactly-- I don't get the insult either, or how he's saying their votes don't matter

Without more info on that link, it sounds like he's asking how Clinton got more absentee votes.

Checking twitter, sounds like there were shenanigans:
https://twitter.com/JenD1974/status/718943019655823360

Don't see the tweet from the OP, maybe it was deleted, but would like to see what he was responding to.

[kristopher]

22. That's Arkansas jujitsu

Take a criticism directed at a Clinton and twist it by pretending the subject of the criticism is whatever party is being exploited.

[brush]

26. He's not only insulting the disabled, he's hinting that the Clinton campaign engaged in fraud.

In Caucuses you have to show up and be in the room during a specific time slot.

Disabled people submit surrogate ballots because, duh, they're disabled.

[IdaBriggs]

63. 45% of all Democrats in one county being disabled seems "odd". nt

[notadmblnd]

81. Must be some hella high power lines where they live

Either that or there is something definitely wrong with the water.

Almost half the voting population of a county disabled? Not buying it.

[IdaBriggs]

83. It turns out surrogate ballots can be submitted for multiple reasons.

And it just may be a very active GOTV effort (which I support).

Per the Wyoming Democratic Party website --

http://www.wyodems.org/frequently-asked-questions

7. What if I am unable to attend the county caucuses?
If an attendee is unable to attend their county caucus due to:
- Religious Observance
- Military Service
- Disability
- Illness
- Work Schedule
- Student studying abroad
then they may submit a surrogate form to the state party. The deadline for surrogate forms to be received is April 1st- since this deadline is past the form is no longer available.

I hate spamming the thread, but "The OP focus was on disability, but it looks like there may be more reasons, so does anyone KNOW if the "reason marked" was disability (which still seems crazy high to me)?"

[notadmblnd]

85. OK, but- why were they not added in until the end?

those ballots were required to be in by April 1. Seems to me those votes would have started off the counting.

[IdaBriggs]

91. Ah - everywhere else they START with the absentee count.

And that is one of the issues that freaked people out - the perception that someone went in a back room and "created" 300 absentee ballots for one candidate out of whole cloth?

Yes, that should be investigated. Election fraud (or even the perception of it) is bad for democracy.

[notadmblnd]

100. What was that movie Chris Farley was in?

His brother was a politician and he was a fuck up? David Spade was assigned to be his handler and through their trials and mishaps they end up exposing his brother's opponent's election fraud by proving dead people were voting?

I wonder what made me think of that movie?

[KittyWampus]

61. "Wow! How did Clinton end up with so many of those forms"

That is Hartmann's quote.

The need to defend everything involved with Sanders' pathetic campaign, his surrogates and supporters is obvious here.

You focus on the second part of his pathetic tweet and ignore the first.

Hartmann is supposedly an informed political commentator and he:

#1. voices disbelief/surprise
#2. while then questioning how Clinton ended up with SO MANY of those forms

Is he really that stupid that he doesn't know how Clinton's campaign would have gotten the appropriate number of forms to help their disabled supporters to exercise their right to vote?

Is he really surprised that Clinton's campaign is organized enough to help enfranchise their disabled voters?

Or maybe the simplest interpretation is the correct one:

Hartmann just can't get over the fact Sanders' campaign is so disorganized it couldn't also help enfranchise its own disabled voters and lashed out at Clinton.

[wildeyed]

66. Right?

You get the forms at Board of Elections, along with your voter registration forms. You can probably print them directly off the website, too.

I have done voter assistance at low income housing for seniors and the disabled and it is, hands down, one of my FAVORITE volunteer activities of all time. Probably of my favorite things, period. The idea that helping them to vote is somehow not legit or that is "soliciting" votes....

The elderly and disabled have a goddam RIGHT to participate, just like young voters, just like the poor and any group that faces obstacles and disenfranchisement. I don't know what to say about people who think there is a problem with this, particularly when they claim to be "progressive".

I am not big on purity tests for progressives, but this is one. If you want to keep a group from voting because you do not like the way they vote, you don't get to use that label. Disenfranchising voters is NOT progressive.

[peace13]

80. I think the weird thing is that Dem's with disabilities would vote for Hill.

Unless they are one percenters I fail to see the advantage. My sister was severely disabled the last six years of her life and she was a crazed Rethug. I used to tell her I needed to get to the poll to cancel out her vote. I never could understand her pompous association to vote against her needs. I can only hope that if one of her Rethug choices was geared more toward the people and their needs, that she would have chosen that candidate. My point is, I don't care in the least that a stack of votes from disabled Americans showed up. The weirdness us that so many were for Hill. I would love to see if all ballots were turned in or if the Bernie votes were ditched. We have had some of that in Ohio where voter registration drives mysteriously failed to submit the Dem voter registrations.

[wildeyed]

64. Calling legitimate GOTV

practices "soliciting" is insulting. Campaigns contact their supporters and then encourage them to turnout to vote. That is called "campaigning" or "Get Out The Vote" or "GOTV" for short. It is what campaigns DO. It is perfectly legal. Sanders has done it well in places with large pools of youth votes and open primaries. He did not cheat when he did that. We do not say he "solicited" the youth voters. We say he tuned out his base. He did his GOTV and turned out voters who were legally permitted to vote. As did Clinton in WY.

Thom is being a jerk, making it sound like she did something shady and/or disabled voters should not be allowed to participate because he didn't like who they voted for. How very GOP of him.

[artislife]

69. That isn't what he said

I know that I got a letter from the desk of William Jefferson Clinton (post marked Seattle!!) that pitched for her but also included a surrogate ballot. The thing about our state (WA) is that there had to be a good reason not to show up.

I have voted in every election, on every referendum (thanks Tim Eyeman) and local judgeships. I was their target market.

They just don't realize that the shift is in.

[Kalidurga]

4. You should have the DOJ look into that.

[Cha]

6. "Solicit Disabled Voters"?! Really not something you should concern yourself with, thom

Thank you, Nuc

[hollysmom]

8. I don't get the context, what exactly are they talking about?

link?

[geek tragedy]

13. He's upset Clinton organized absentee ballots for the caucus in WY nt

[IdaBriggs]

60. Post #10 say 45% of the Democrats in Laramie are disabled.

Those are some pretty high numbers of "disabled" people.

800 Democrats were healthy enough to show up to vote, but 621 Democrats are apparently in bad shape.

Apparently the numbers who didn't show up were mostly Hillary, while the ones who did were mostly Bernie.

[wildeyed]

67. You spend much time in rural America these days?

Lots of health issues these days. Also, is there a rule that only disabled can absentee? ANYONE can absentee in my state. Plenty of perfectly healthy individuals use that type of ballot because they don't want to stand in line, might be out of town, whatever....

Sorry that Sanders did not manage to figure out the GOTV in that state well enough to maximize the turnout of his supporters, but that does not mean that Clinton did anything wrong.

[IdaBriggs]

79. It might not be nefarious but it looks ODD.

And it just may be a very active GOTV effort (which I support).

Per the Wyoming Democratic Party website --

http://www.wyodems.org/frequently-asked-questions

7. What if I am unable to attend the county caucuses?
If an attendee is unable to attend their county caucus due to:
- Religious Observance
- Military Service
- Disability
- Illness
- Work Schedule
- Student studying abroad
then they may submit a surrogate form to the state party. The deadline for surrogate forms to be received is April 1st- since this deadline is past the form is no longer available.

The OP focus was on disability, but it looks like there may be more reasons, so does anyone KNOW if the "reason marked" was disability (which still seems crazy high to me)?

[artyteacher]

9. thom. joins cenc in becoming an ahole. eom

[geek tragedy]

14. Has the latter ever not been an ahole? nt

[Surya Gayatri]

16. Like to like--birds of a feather, and all that.

[Lucinda]

11. Yet another charming Bernie surrogate.

[geek tragedy]

12. Is that the guy who works for Putin Media Inc? nt

[Surya Gayatri]

15. How nasty, disrespectful and base--and this from a supposed progressive icon.

Doesn't surprise me though.

I've always found his style to be supercilious and know-it-all--thinks he's too clever by half.

[rjsquirrel]

33. Couldn't agree more

His show is supported by gold con artists (thus his constant failed predictions of imminent economic or market collapse, year in and year out) and bogus nutritional supplements he shills with personal testimony.

[Surya Gayatri]

35. He DOES strike me as a smooth talking huckster...

who's found a "progressive" persona schtick to exploit.

[rjsquirrel]

38. I believe he's really progressive

I just think his perpetual alarmism is unhelpful and self-interested. His sponsors are con artists, so he is taking advantage of the same ignorance in his audience (which you can see in the rantings of his biggest fans here on DU) as right wing talkers do.

Hartmann says plenty of intelligent things but then undermines it all with super beets and buy moar gold cuz the market is crashing bullshit. Right now his gold pitch includes "just look at the markets this year!" Well, he must have recorded it in February because yeah, look at them, up for the year.

[Surya Gayatri]

41. Bwaahaaa! So, his "sky-is-falling" meme is a bit dated, huh?

I couldn't stand his condescension and stopped listening when Air America went belly-up.

About his being a dyed-in-the-wool progressive?
IMHO, it is NOT progressive to "take advantage of the same ignorance in his audience".

Just another media maven looking for suckers.

[Hoyt]

102. He was on Bill Maher a few weeks ago, and everyone totally ignored everything he said.

I felt bad for him, sort of.

[Fla Dem]

94. Yep. never could like him. Looked desperately for a progressive talk show

found him on Sirius a few years ago. But after listening to him for a while just couldn't get by his smugnes. The "buy Gold" ads got me as well. They are RW products and I hate how he pitches them as if our economy is going down the tubes. All he wants to do is sell copies of his 20+ books.

[Surya Gayatri]

97. "Smugness"...that was one of the words I was looking for!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. Disrespecting the disabled harkens back to a very dark time in the history of the 20th century.

Not. Progressive. At. All.





BTW, Thom, my mom was a below the knee amputee . She often voted absentee.

[kristopher]

23. Then YOU should stop doing it.

Falsely Treating Criticism of Clinton as
Criticism of the Disabled is
Cynically MisUsing the Status of
The Disabled
To Protect a
Corrupt Politician.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Truth hurts

[kristopher]

34. That's not excuse, you should bear the pain and stop doing it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. According to Mr. Dithers Mr Hartman realized how patently offensive his tweet was and deleted it.

That's not excuse, you should bear the pain and stop doing it.

According to Mr. Dithers Mr Hartman realized how patently offensive his tweet was and deleted it, ergo:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511696163#post27



In light of that would you agree with me that all people of good will should criticize those noxious sentiments and exempt themselves from them as well?

And if not, why not?

Thank you in advance.

[kristopher]

39. Mr. Dithers know jack-shit about what Mr Hartmann thought.

Not wanting to deal with disingenuous assholes is a far more viable read.

You think lying by twisting the meaning of a clear, unambiguous statement is a good way to flow - Go For It. That's a behavior consistent with the mainstream behavior of clinton supporters so you aren't an exception.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. I really couldn't care less about your false characterization of me.

I do take exception to your false characterization of my friend, Mr. Dithers. I would walk through a hail of gunfire for him.

My mom was a below the knee amputee and my dad was blinded in his right eye during the North African Campaign in WW ll. Mr. Hartman's casual disregard for those with physical challenges is contemptible. Shame on anybody who refuses to condemn such noxious sentiments. Instead of heaping abuse on those with physical challenges they should be thankful they don't have any.

[kristopher]

49. Keep twisting an spinning the falsehoods.

Hartmann criticized Clinton and questioned her very, very, very questionable ethics.

Your attempt to pull heartstrings and exploit the disabled is entirely on you and your compadres. It is not only transparently obvious, it is a repellent extension of what has become Clinton campaign tactics under Brock.

You'd be well advised to stop as your actions are only counter-productive to the goal of Dems winning the election.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. As the child of parents who were physically challenged Mr. Hartman owes me an apology.

And if David Brock is guilty of disparaging our brothers and sisters with physical challenges he is worthy of opprobrium and censure too.

Let's not use our brothers and sisters with physical challenges as political fodder. We are better than that.


I am glad Mr. Hartman saw the error of his ways and deleted the odious tweet.

[kristopher]

52. Keep twisting an spinning the falsehoods.

Hartmann criticized Clinton and questioned her very, very, very questionable ethics.

Your attempt to pull heartstrings and exploit the disabled is entirely on you and your compadres. It is not only transparently obvious, it is a repellent extension of what has become Clinton campaign tactics under Brock.

You'd be well advised to stop as your actions are only counter-productive to the goal of Dems winning the election.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

54. You are just making me revive painful memories.

You are just making me revive painful memories, like having a dad with one good eye and a mom with one good leg. I will never forget when my mom told me how my dad told her, while they were dating, he was blind in one eye. He took shrapnel in the eye and belly and contacted malaria during the North African campaign fighting Hitler and his buddy Musollini's armies. He spent six months in Walter Reed Hospital and while they could cosmetically save his eye they couldn't save his sight. My mom told him he was a hero.

Shame on anybody who is callous towards our brother ans sisters with physical challenges and shame on those who defend them.

[kristopher]

56. No one is making you do anything

You are weaving a narrative where you claim to be victimized. A quick review shows your intent clearly.

So keep twisting an spinning the falsehoods.

Hartmann criticized Clinton and questioned her very, very, very questionable ethics.

Your attempt to pull heartstrings and exploit the disabled is entirely on you and your compadres. It is not only transparently obvious, it is a repellent extension of what has become Clinton campaign tactics under Brock.

You'd be well advised to stop as your actions are only counter-productive to the goal of Dems winning the election.

PS This is your last bump.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. There are more important things than winning elections like standing behind our...

There are more important things than winning elections like standing behind our physically challenged brothers and sisters.

[nc4bo]

18. Has anyone addressed the fact that each surrogate ballot should have had

One living, breathing representative per ballot and was it legit for just 1 person to submit 600 (?) surrogate ballots?

I believe that's the real question not that fact that a candidate's supporter/representative GOTV at a nursing home, for instance.

[dchill]

32. Ding, ding!

[NorthCarolina]

37. This will be corrected at the State level caucus in May

when the Clinton "surrogates" don't show. The same tactic was used in NV, and if you check now you will find it in the column as a Bernie win. It's really just to change the "appearance" of the race on the day when that particular caucusing state is in the news cycle. In May when they reconvene WY caucus will be well out of the public eye and safe to make the correction with minimal impact on perception.

[Trenzalore]

43. Arizona and Missouri were primaries

You can't flip pledged delegates at the state convention. The narrative you are looking for is Nevada.

[NorthCarolina]

45. You're right...I'll correct it.

Hadn't completely finished my morning coffee...thanks.

[Trenzalore]

46. You have a valid argument

Just making sure you use the right example

[wildeyed]

75. What are you saying, exactly?

It sounds like you are implying that someone submitted 600 absentee ballots? Can you clarify?

[Agschmid]

114. 1 person didn't submit 600.

[Vinca]

19. Is that an actual screen save or are people making shit up?

My guess is making shit up.

[SidDithers]

20. He's since deleted the tweet...

Edit to remove the comment about Hartmann. He's a member here.

Sid

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. Who deleted the tweet?

[SidDithers]

27. Hartmann...

Last edited Sun Apr 10, 2016, 09:07 AM - Edit history (1)

But lots of twitter users have the screencap.

ETA: https://twitter.com/AlanKestrel750/status/718999460978757632?lang=en

Sid

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. The deletion of the offensive tweet indicates Mr, Hartman knew it was wrong.

[Cha]

71. Exactly.

[stone space]

103. Well, one can hardly blame him for that!

He's since deleted the tweet...

Wise decision.

[Iliyah]

28. Now that was sh***y

[mmonk]

29. Thom has worked with special needs kids and started

a school for them and abused children. Be careful who you try to smear.

[KittyWampus]

47. Then you'd think his comment SHOULD have been more like >>>

"Sanders's campaign should have made more of an effort to enfranchise handicapped voters".

Or, if he needed to comment on Clinton >>>

"Good for Clinton's campaign for enfranchising handicapped voters".

[stone space]

30. Hopefully, every campaign will.

[KittyWampus]

48. And that's the correct response. Thank You.

I have handicapped family members.

[mcar]

40. K&R

[Octafish]

44. A bad choice of words doesn't change the fact Thom is a good man.

Stuffing the ballot box pisses off anybody who cares about Democracy.

in Hartmann's case, the record shows a lifetime of work on behalf of all good people.

He has never supported the "money trumps peace" crew who invade innocent countries to steal their oil.

[KittyWampus]

50. Care to explain your assertion Clinton was "stuffing the ballot box"?

Being both organized and willing to help handicapped supporters exercise their right to vote is "stuffing the ballot box"?

[Octafish]

53. There were reports that one person delivered 300 ballots yesterday...

...when the caucus rules said each ballot had to have one person bring it on behalf of the voter.

I thought you knew that, KittyWampus.

[KittyWampus]

58. Since Wyoming allows disabled primary voters to caucus by absentee ballot...

How else were those ballots supposed to get there?

[Native]

72. Please link to the rule you site, from the form I found, it appears they can be mailed in...

thanks,

http://static1.squarespace.com/static/56b3deefab48de4b002e2d79/t/56eab71622482e1611cde122/1458222871848/CaucusSurrogateForm.pdf

[Octafish]

73. There you go.

7. What if I am unable to attend the county caucuses?
If an attendee is unable to attend their county caucus due to:
Religious Observance
Military Service
Disability
Illness
Work Schedule
Student studying abroad
then they may submit a surrogate form to the state party. The deadline for surrogate forms to be received is April 1st- since this deadline is past the form is no longer available.


http://www.wyodems.org/frequently-asked-questions

[wildeyed]

77. Please post a link.

You are correct. That would be illegal. So you should have proof first.

[Octafish]

87. Illegal? Or just dishonest? I despise dishonest motherfuckers, too.

http://www.wyomingnews.com/news/new-clinton-supporters-slightly-outnumber-sanders-camp-at-laramie-county/article_97ebaff2-fe9e-11e5-a8e8-73e7ed6c9c66.html

[wildeyed]

90. That's not dishonest.

That is called GOTV. It is part of the process Are you suggesting that disabled voters not be allowed to participate?

[Octafish]

98. That's what you said. Why put words in my mouth?

Don't bother, I know why.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1536356

[DemonGoddess]

55. K&R!

[msanthrope]

62. Kick. nt

[IdaBriggs]

65. With a 45% disabled rate in one county, SOMEBODY should be looking

into this -- it's either fraud, or absolutely terrifying.

[artislife]

70. This.

Maybe they were more organized, but I want every surrogate ballot scrutinized.

[wildeyed]

78. I looked up the law.

You do not have to be disable to submit an absentee ballot. Any voter legally entitled to vote can do it. So you can put your worries to rest.

[IdaBriggs]

82. I just looked up the RULE (it's a Democratic primary, so rule not law) -

and we are talking there, too.

For those following the sub threads, this is what it says:

http://www.wyodems.org/frequently-asked-questions

7. What if I am unable to attend the county caucuses?
If an attendee is unable to attend their county caucus due to:
- Religious Observance
- Military Service
- Disability
- Illness
- Work Schedule
- Student studying abroad
then they may submit a surrogate form to the state party. The deadline for surrogate forms to be received is April 1st- since this deadline is past the form is no longer available.

I also said "The OP focus was on disability, but it looks like there may be more reasons, so does anyone KNOW if the "reason marked" was disability (which still seems crazy high to me)?"

Hopefully this is just a very excellent GOTV effort.

[wildeyed]

84. Disability and work schedule?

High levels of disability in rural areas these days. Kids. Work. Whatever.

[IdaBriggs]

89. Exactly. This might be a complete non-issue.

The only thing that would make it one is if "everyone" default checked "disability" (which seems nutty - 45% disabled is crazy) and then it should be investigated NOT JUST FOR POTENTIAL FRAUD (which *might* be an issue), but also because almost half the participants don't like the current system (inconvenient caucus).

[wildeyed]

93. Yes, caucuses suck.

EVERYONE should go to Instant Runoff format for primaries. Voters rank their choices from 1-3. If the first choice is the low voter getter, their next choice pops up and the vote is recalculated until enough candidates are eliminated. Like a caucus, but done in a regular, accessible election format.

[wildeyed]

88. Also, do you have the demographic breakout

of the voters who participated? Was it 45% of ALL participants? The disability rate for Laramie County, 65 and under is 8.5 percent, so not at all unreasonable to think that a large percentage of the primary voters, who would skew older, are disabled, particularly if one of the campaigns was targeting them.

I have done turnout with older and disabled voters. You can provide forms and limited assistance, but after that, hands off the controls unless you want to be charged with felony voter fraud.

There is no law against turning out your base voters. I am sure that Sanders was beating the bushes at the colleges, too

[IdaBriggs]

95. I don't have the demographics and I agree with you.

Elsewhere someone commented that someone basically went into a back room and came out with 300 surrogate ballots at the end of the process (I am paraphrasing) which set off all kinds of alarms. It should be pretty easy to investigate that; it might be something as simple as stressed out "oh, crap, I forgot about these" but even the perception of "bad behavior" is a cause for concern.

Oh, and thank you for your GOTV efforts!

[wildeyed]

101. I am just interested in this type of thing.

And frankly, absentee is the most easily abused form of voting. But it is also necessary to make voting accessible to so many.

[ismnotwasm]

74. UGH

What the hell is WRONG with him?

[ismnotwasm]

76. Why I Support Hillary Clinton: A Disabled Woman’s Perspective

You see, in addition to being a lifelong liberal, I am also a disabled woman. These identities matter to me. Unlike Sanders, Clinton has a long and distinguished record of fighting for the disability community. Early on in her career, Clinton played a pivotal role in pushing for the first special education law, ensuring children with disabilities had the right to free and appropriate public education.

As Secretary of State, Clinton appointed the first Special Advisor on Disability Rights for the U.S. Department of State. During her tenure as secretary, Clinton also vigorously fought for ratification of the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities.These examples are only a few of the many reasons I believe Clinton is the better candidate for my community — the disability community.

Since the beginning of her campaign, Clinton’s website has included a page dedicated to disability rights. While this may seem small, this gesture demonstrates her commitment to our issues. To be fair, Sanders recently added a similar page to his website. Neither is perfect, and I wish both were far more detailed. But it is more than a webpage that matters.

Unlike Sanders (who has admittedly mentioned the disability community on occasion), Clinton regularly discusses disability rights in her speeches. Even during her Super Tuesday speech, she mentioned fighting for the rights of people with disabilities! More importantly, she engages with disability leaders and the broad disability community for advice on how to address our issues. For example, Clinton’s autism plan was the result of significant discussions with the autistic community. In contrast, I am unaware of any similar conversations between the disability community and the Sanders campaign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robyn-powell/why-support-hillary-clinton-disabled-woman_b_9375858.html

[Haveadream]

86. Thank you for this

Fantastic article about HRC support of people with disabilities with longtime attention, policies and plans. Robyn Powell-- a proud disabled woman, attorney, disability law and policy consultant -- is a fierce advocate. I hope she responds to just how thoroughly Thom Hartmann insulted an already disenfranchised and discriminated against group.


Love this part of her article:

Intersectionality matters. As demonstrated most recently by Clinton’s support among people of color in Nevada and South Carolina, she is attuned to race issues. Indeed, Clinton has been endorsed by a number of prominent civil rights activists, such as Representative Jim Clyburn, as well as the Congressional Black Caucus. A strong supporter of LGBT rights, Clinton has also been endorsed by the Human Rights Committee. Race, gender, and LGBT issues matter to the disability community. In fact, recent data from the CDC indicates that disability is more prevalent among people of color as well as women. Moreover, some people with disabilities also belong to the LGBT community. People with disabilities who are also African American, women, or LGBT face multiple levels of discrimination. We need a president who can be a champion on all of our issues.

"The disability community is 56.7 million people strong"

Everyone: GOTV for people with disabilities!

[zappaman]

92. That's fucked up.

[DesertRat]

96. Thom deleted that tweet

But the internet is forever.

[Ferd Berfel]

99. Acient History - Hartmann explained on his show

apologized and deleted the tweet

Done

[Tragl1]

105. Yeah...

I just don't get the offense, other than at most a poorly worded tweet, could have been clearer in asking.

So don't care about this, and those that do, meh. All I have to say is meh.

[sheshe2]

106. Kick!

[Splinter Cell]

107. Same old song and dance.

More faux outrage from Hillary land.

[JI7]

108. i'm going to give him a pass on this

and i'm glad he deleted it which shows he realized how wrong it was .

he isn't usually like this and it shows how heated campaigns can get to people and make them react in ways they usually wouldn't.

[hrmjustin]

112. Disgusting tweet on his part.