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Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:00 PM

Are the rules being changed in MO after the people have voted?

I'm not sure what to make of this but time is limited. Are there any Missouri residents who can validate this story.



"We have less than a day to figure this out, delegates will be voted on tomorrow evening in all counties in my district.
My father just informed me that here in Missouri, the State Democratic Party has just decided to change the interpretation of the rules by forcing all counties to allocate their delegates based on the entire congressional district's proportionality vs. the way each county voted in the presidential primary, I.e. previously delegates were allocated based on the way each county voted (see attached documentation).
For example, previously Buchanan County was to elect 10 Bernie delegates and 8 Hillary delegates to the congressional district/state convention. Now the county has been told to elect 9 Bernie and 9 Hillary delegates. Instead of using the Buchanan County's stand alone numbers, the State Party is using the combined vote of 35 counties.
We need help legally to be proactive on this; every delegate matters at this point, and this allows for a disproportionate amount to go to "the other camp."
How counties were initially proportioned
How my county has suddenly decided to be proportioned
edited for more specific wording
Edit 2 After Crunching numbers to show how this would possibly change the STATE Convention which would be representative of the national convention delegate count minus super delegates etc...
Original Allocation: Clinton-601 Sanders-629
New Allocation: Clinton - 652 Sanders - 578"

https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/comments/4dpi4i/crisis_in_missouri_regarding_delegate_allocation/

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:04 PM

1. This is fucking thievery ...

 

So blatant ... So dishonorable ....

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Response to Trajan (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:11 PM

3. But you know us Bernie supporters are just nut case conspiracy theorists.

Hillary would never do anything underhanded like this.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:08 PM

2. more Hillary election fraud. Hillarians unite around your democracy thief & justify, rationalize,

& sell your souls.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:12 PM

4. No. Delegates are allocated by congressional district.

Read a summary of MO's process at this link:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/MO-D

There hasn't been any change.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:14 PM

5. If that's the case then fine

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 05:53 PM

10. That doesn't address the question

That paper is for the Congressional District Convention later this month. The question, as I understand it, is how delegates selected at the county level at tonight's Mass Meetings are allocated. Based on a document linked in the original reddit post, it appears that counties will proportion their delegates according to the results in that county, not the CD.

It would have helped if the OP had cited the source for this info:


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BygF7hzpflQgM1JmcXpVcEVxWDA/view?pref=2&pli=1

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:14 PM

6. I'm going to the Dem Mass Meeting tonight

I'm going to volunteer to be a delegate for Bernie. I'll ask about this!

Edited to add: Someone in the KC4Bernie Facebook group says this has been debunked??

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Response to LongTomH (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:15 PM

7. Thanks!

Please do just that as time is critical.

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Response to LongTomH (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 04:15 PM

9. Please keep us posted!

Thanks

And you're gonna volunteer to be a delegate, thanks for that too!

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Response to Rebkeh (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 10:29 PM

11. I wasn't selected as a delegate; the two who were both UMKC grad students in economics.

We had 8 people show up for Bernie, so we could choose 2 delegates and two alternates.

Only two showed up for Hillary, so both are delegates and there aren't any alternates from my ward.

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Response to LongTomH (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:12 PM

12. Cool. Good to know

Did anyone there know anything about the delegate issue (from the OP)?

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Response to Rebkeh (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:15 PM

13. We didn't discuss it!

At least one person in the KC4Bernie group says it has been 'debunked!" I dunno! I do know that, according to friends, more people have been showing up for Bernie than for Hillary.

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Response to LongTomH (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:20 PM

14. I trust there are legal minds working on it

I hope!!!

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:15 PM

8. with the destruction of the Republican party our party has quietly been taken over

The DNC with the help of Wall-street money has be infiltrated by ex-republican's looking to continue their control of our country.

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Response to awake (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:23 PM

16. Yes. With candidates like hillary and the crap her supporters defend, we are the New Republicans.

 

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:22 PM

15. Voting corruption by more DNC clintonites.

 

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 11:25 PM

17. Where is the Rule of Law anyway? Are we a third-world country now?

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Response to snowy owl (Reply #17)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:20 PM

18. There has been a new category created just for us--We're now Fourth-World

Thank you GOP, for dragging us down to that.........

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Response to lastlib (Reply #18)

Sat Apr 9, 2016, 01:50 PM

19. GOP

Have to cheat!

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