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Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:39 PM Apr 2016

Question for Bernie: At what point does a woman finally become qualified to be President?

Apparently a woman can go to a top law school, become a US Senator, be appointed Secretary of State, and still not be qualified to be President of the United States.

So at what point does a woman finally become qualified to be President?

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Question for Bernie: At what point does a woman finally become qualified to be President? (Original Post) Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 OP
His comments have absolutely nothing to do with Hillary being a woman. Read them. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #1
The problems are with Hillary specifically not with her being female Baobab Apr 2016 #39
There is something to it... CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #54
There s nothing to it. Only in the mind of the beholder, which in this case is you. highprincipleswork Apr 2016 #55
Nice spin on the misogyny/sexism angle. Really helps your cause. nt revbones Apr 2016 #2
You know why we don't like Hillary. PyaarRevolution Apr 2016 #3
Nina Turner: please groom her to achieve the highest. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #24
She should run on Bernie's ticket as VP Politicalboi Apr 2016 #41
I wouldn't mind eight years of Bernie. Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #48
play the card again!! grasswire Apr 2016 #4
The poor little rich girl... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #45
Other qualifications aside, learning how to tell the truth would help her. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #5
That is some great idea that will NEVER EVER come to pass... GeorgiaPeanuts Apr 2016 #21
Yeah. Lying is a big part of who Hillary Clinton is. But I did want to answer the OP. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2016 #26
Truth... Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #33
She doesn't get it. Baobab Apr 2016 #42
Did he say it was because she was a woman? LoveIsNow Apr 2016 #6
When her name is Senator Elizabeth Warren oregonjen Apr 2016 #7
Warren, yes please!! I'd support her in a New York minute, no doubt about it. nt nc4bo Apr 2016 #11
Amen. TheDormouse Apr 2016 #16
I asked that question this morning. It was explained to me that I was wrong msanthrope Apr 2016 #8
Sexim charge AND racism charge! How about we throw in 9/11 and hit the trifecta? Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #20
Pulling out the gender card, pathetic. Broward Apr 2016 #9
It's about character, not genitals! Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #10
When she doesn't lie all the freaking time Kalidurga Apr 2016 #12
When she can tell the truth and not say what is convenient to further her aims. shraby Apr 2016 #13
When she's Elizabeth Warren vintx Apr 2016 #14
Are you proposing she be immune to criticism BECAUSE she's a woman? B2G Apr 2016 #15
I didn't propose anything. I asked a question. Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #17
No. Stupid writing is the situation here. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #36
Nope. nt Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #40
Your post stupidly implied that Hillary being a woman disqualifies her, and you know that's bull. HERVEPA Apr 2016 #44
Question for Card Sharks: At what point does falsely characterizing every statement as sexist whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #18
About 5 minutes after it started nt angrychair Apr 2016 #38
Yep - Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #43
When she is a citizen and reaches the age of 35. Fit or unfit is another question... Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #19
Qualifications for President NowSam Apr 2016 #22
As soon as she proves herself capable of better judgment than Hillary Clinton cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #23
This belongs in here whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #25
+1. Wow. Marr Apr 2016 #28
Can you please provide me an exact quote of Hillary saying Obama isn't qualified to be President? Cali_Democrat Apr 2016 #30
Any man who made as many bad calls as HRC, and was as happy to take bribes as HRC, Marr Apr 2016 #27
When she proves she... Else You Are Mad Apr 2016 #29
When her name is Elizabeth Warren. Zen Democrat Apr 2016 #31
Your post is so ridiculous. SamKnause Apr 2016 #32
That clearly makes you a "Bernie Bro" to Hillary and her band of perpetual victims. seattleite Apr 2016 #34
Stupid stupid stupid post. Has nothing to do with her being a woman. AND YOU KNOW THAT! HERVEPA Apr 2016 #35
When they don't constantly lie and have FBI investigations Politicalboi Apr 2016 #37
I noticed you left some things out. hobbit709 Apr 2016 #46
at the moment he says this, and after voting to confirm her as SOS: “by the way, on her msongs Apr 2016 #47
When they refuse to sell out to Wall Street investment bankers... Yurovsky Apr 2016 #49
A woman ( or man) can do ALL the things you've listed, yet if they're CORRUPT LIARS...they aren't AzDar Apr 2016 #50
Same point as a man? daleanime Apr 2016 #51
An easy one. When that woman receives more votes than the other candidate. guillaumeb Apr 2016 #52
When the woman is as honest as the man! bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #53

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
39. The problems are with Hillary specifically not with her being female
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:10 PM
Apr 2016

Look at Shirley Chisholm. She ran for president and there were no people saying she wasn't qualified. She clearly was. She would have made a good President.

 

CrowCityDem

(2,348 posts)
54. There is something to it...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:34 PM
Apr 2016

... after all, President Obama is guilty of taking corporate money and having a SuperPAC as well. Bernie has never said he isn't qualified to be President, has he?

PyaarRevolution

(814 posts)
3. You know why we don't like Hillary.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:40 PM
Apr 2016

I would support Elizabeth Warren, Cynthia McKinney and others without question for President. Oh and Nina Turner.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
24. Nina Turner: please groom her to achieve the highest.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:56 PM
Apr 2016

She would be awesome: sound judgement paired with a strong sense of justice AND campaigning strength.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
48. I wouldn't mind eight years of Bernie.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:16 PM
Apr 2016

His health is likely to allow two full terms: he comes from a very robust family. (And even though such considerations are of minute importance: his bill of health is arguably better than Clinton's.)

 

GeorgiaPeanuts

(2,353 posts)
21. That is some great idea that will NEVER EVER come to pass...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:54 PM
Apr 2016

Clinton can't help herself... Narcissists tend to have that problem.

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
42. She doesn't get it.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:12 PM
Apr 2016

Which is another reason why she would make a horrible President. She's more than a little bit delusional.

LoveIsNow

(356 posts)
6. Did he say it was because she was a woman?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

No. Never.

He said it was because of her fundraising.

But you knew that.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
8. I asked that question this morning. It was explained to me that I was wrong
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:43 PM
Apr 2016

to think this was about gender. In fact, I was sexist to bring that up.

Sound familiar?

How did that work out for Bernie with race and South Carolina?

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
20. Sexim charge AND racism charge! How about we throw in 9/11 and hit the trifecta?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:53 PM
Apr 2016

Or maybe we should just praise Nancy Reagan while we are at it? A lot of you may not remember this, but it was very difficult in those days, and Ronals and Nancy really started the national conversation on... I may have mispoken... well actually that distinction doesn't belong to Nancy Reagan, but I lost people too and if you don't vote for me you are a duped, badly-informed, complacent millennial Hell-bound slut who lusts after Berniebros.

Now onward with the coronation! Pray to Saint Hillary of Walmart, our Blessed Lady of Inevitability, and the affluent fruit of her Labour. The power of Debbie commands you.

(this message was sponsored by payday-lenders, Goldman Sachs, the prison industry, and the rest of the status quo)

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
10. It's about character, not genitals!
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:45 PM
Apr 2016

Are you so biased that you believe all women are incapable of faulty judgement?

As a senator, she voted for the Iraq War Resolution

As Secretary of State, she acted in favour of the Libya disaster, ignoring Obama's direct orders o to confer with Blumenthal, while selling fracking across the globe and promoting TPP ("golden standard&quot , TTIP and the Panama trade deal.

Is that pattern of shortsighted, war and greed promoting judgements not in any way disqualifying?

And while we are on the subject: do you seriously believe that all criticism of Clinton is due to "sexism"? There isn't enough facepalm in the world for that level of cognitive dissonance.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
12. When she doesn't lie all the freaking time
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:46 PM
Apr 2016

When she isn't lying she isn't using weasel words. When she doesn't vote for endless war and start others for business opportunities. When she can be a leader on issues and not just jump on the bandwagon when issues become popular. When she actually fights for people who need a champion and not just for the middle class and the wealthy. When she doesn't vote for laws that will help the wealthy avoid paying taxes. When she turns down speaking gigs from the 1% because it might end up being a conflict of interest. When she doesn't champion fracking world wide.

Or when her name is Elizabeth Warren and she understands the grave danger of banks being able to topple the worlds economy.

 

vintx

(1,748 posts)
14. When she's Elizabeth Warren
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:49 PM
Apr 2016

(i.e. when she has sound judgment and the integrity to act on it rather than self interest)

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
15. Are you proposing she be immune to criticism BECAUSE she's a woman?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:49 PM
Apr 2016

Because that's sure what a lot of the posts here sound like.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
17. I didn't propose anything. I asked a question.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:51 PM
Apr 2016

Reading comprehension appears to be an issue here.....

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
18. Question for Card Sharks: At what point does falsely characterizing every statement as sexist
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

or racist become pathetic?

NowSam

(1,252 posts)
22. Qualifications for President
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 02:55 PM
Apr 2016

has nothing to do with gender and it is incorrect to inject such into the discussion of HRC being unqualified or unfit for the office.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
30. Can you please provide me an exact quote of Hillary saying Obama isn't qualified to be President?
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:03 PM
Apr 2016

Thank you in advance.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
27. Any man who made as many bad calls as HRC, and was as happy to take bribes as HRC,
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:01 PM
Apr 2016

would be just as unqualified.

It has nothing to do with her chromosomes.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
29. When she proves she...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:02 PM
Apr 2016

Is the best candidate to be president. This 'she deserves this' BS really hurts her campaign. A candidate has to show, through their consistency in policies and beliefs, that they are worthy of my vote. This is the same criteria that a male candidate has to go through as well to win my vote. She hasn't shown me -- through her policies -- that she is worth my vote.

Elizabeth Warren on the other hand would and has....

SamKnause

(13,091 posts)
32. Your post is so ridiculous.
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:05 PM
Apr 2016

As a 62 year old woman I am sick of sexism being

brought up for every single issue in this campaign.

I don't give a damn about Bernie's anatomy.

I don't give a damn about Hillary's anatomy.

I wouldn't give a damn if it was a hermaphrodite running.

If I like you policies and judgment, I will vote for you.



 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
37. When they don't constantly lie and have FBI investigations
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:09 PM
Apr 2016

When they are transparent and show us how they talk about us behind closed doors. When they don't have an ex president going to polls to suppress the vote when things look bad for you. She lies cheats and buys her way to the top.

msongs

(67,395 posts)
47. at the moment he says this, and after voting to confirm her as SOS: “by the way, on her
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:16 PM
Apr 2016

worst day, Hillary Clinton will be an infinitely better candidate and president than the Republican candidate on his best day,”---Bernie Sanders

Yurovsky

(2,064 posts)
49. When they refuse to sell out to Wall Street investment bankers...
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:16 PM
Apr 2016

so let me type this slow so you can understand...

Elizabeth Warren = Qualified

Hillary Clinton = Unqualified

It has ZERO to do with gender, and everything to do with what they stand for. And I cannot support a candidate aligned with the forces working to destroy me and millions of other working-class and poor Americans.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
50. A woman ( or man) can do ALL the things you've listed, yet if they're CORRUPT LIARS...they aren't
Thu Apr 7, 2016, 03:20 PM
Apr 2016

qualified to be POTUS-- it's pretty simple, and has nothing to do with gender.

Which is why this post is insipid... not to mention insulting to those who've dealt /are dealing with sexism.
DISGRACEFUL.

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