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Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:40 PM

 

Bernie Sanders is not qualified to be President of the United States

There is far too much at stake in this Presidential Election.

The Supreme Court is hanging in the balance.

Civil rights and equal justice desperately need to be addressed.

Abortion rights are being eroded.

LGBT rights are constantly under attack.

We still need to improve Health care and Health care access.

We still need sensible solutions to handle Climate change.

College debt is a huge problem.

Addressing poverty, housing and education is at a critical point.

Global conflicts are real and will require sensible, knowledgeable and realistic dialogue and plans.

And as always, we need to improve the economy.

Bernie Sanders platform is weak, and does not do enough to address these many issues.

Hillary Clinton is the only candidate who has the experience, knowledge and experience to start tackling these issues on day one.

This isn't a game. This is real life. And this Bernie Sanders movement is selfish, ignorant and dangerous. Enough.

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Reply Bernie Sanders is not qualified to be President of the United States (Original post)
KMOD Apr 2016 OP
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #1
JonLeibowitz Apr 2016 #3
Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #9
phleshdef Apr 2016 #12
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #14
phleshdef Apr 2016 #35
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #39
phleshdef Apr 2016 #44
KMOD Apr 2016 #15
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #17
JudyM Apr 2016 #21
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #23
JudyM Apr 2016 #24
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #25
JudyM Apr 2016 #26
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #29
phleshdef Apr 2016 #37
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #41
phleshdef Apr 2016 #45
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #48
phleshdef Apr 2016 #50
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #52
phleshdef Apr 2016 #53
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #58
phleshdef Apr 2016 #63
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #64
phleshdef Apr 2016 #65
geek tragedy Apr 2016 #66
phleshdef Apr 2016 #67
KMOD Apr 2016 #38
berni_mccoy Apr 2016 #2
Name removed Apr 2016 #4
Viva_La_Revolution Apr 2016 #5
Dem2 Apr 2016 #6
KMOD Apr 2016 #16
Dem2 Apr 2016 #19
KMOD Apr 2016 #34
Dem2 Apr 2016 #56
CanadaexPat Apr 2016 #7
KMOD Apr 2016 #18
CanadaexPat Apr 2016 #20
The Midway Rebel Apr 2016 #8
revbones Apr 2016 #10
seattleite Apr 2016 #11
dogman Apr 2016 #13
KMOD Apr 2016 #28
sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #55
KMOD Apr 2016 #61
Jarqui Apr 2016 #42
cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #22
Sheepshank Apr 2016 #27
KMOD Apr 2016 #30
morningfog Apr 2016 #31
bkkyosemite Apr 2016 #32
smiley Apr 2016 #33
SheenaR Apr 2016 #36
KMOD Apr 2016 #43
Bonobo Apr 2016 #40
KMOD Apr 2016 #46
ibegurpard Apr 2016 #51
Post removed Apr 2016 #54
Bonobo Apr 2016 #62
Luminous Animal Apr 2016 #47
mythology Apr 2016 #49
Bohemianwriter Apr 2016 #57
SHRED Apr 2016 #59
frylock Apr 2016 #60

Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:41 PM

1. He is qualified to be president.

 

But not qualified to be a Democrat.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:42 PM

3. You alone don't make that determination.

For my part I don't think Hillary Clinton qualifies to be a Democrat with her proud conservative values.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:45 PM

9. labels mean nothing to us

N o t h i n g

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:52 PM

12. Based of some of your posts....

 

....he is more of a true democrat than you will ever be.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:05 PM

14. vast majority of democrats disagree with you

 

and your Hillary Hating Hero.

He can watch the convention from Vermont.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:29 PM

35. Bernie is a true New Deal democrat. It was the Clinton era that pulled the party away from that.

 

Sanders is just trying to pull it back. And the party better embrace that, nominee Clinton or not, or we are done for.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #35)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:30 PM

39. The party will embrace the ideas.

 

Him, nope. Not even a fist bump.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #39)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:32 PM

44. They better embrace him or lose new, young voters he inspires.

 

I'll hold my nose and vote against the Republican in November, no matter what. But I'm about 3 years away from being 40 years old. I understand whats at stake. If the party understands whats at stake, they better not shit on Bernie when this is all over or we will be in serious trouble.

The difference between you and I is I'm not so blinded by loyalty to my candidate to see these bigger pictures.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:06 PM

15. Qualified?

 

Maybe.

Prepared?

No way in hell.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #15)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:08 PM

17. He's an angry loser who will never be president. nt

 

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:13 PM

21. Hillary's not a loser because her M.O. is that she is both bought and buys influence.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #21)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:16 PM

23. She will be #45. He will go back to Vermont. nt

 

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #23)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:20 PM

24. And you are The Oracle of All Knowledge And Wisdom

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Response to JudyM (Reply #24)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:21 PM

25. No just an observer of the obvious.

 

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #25)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:23 PM

26. Observing does not equate to understanding.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #26)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:26 PM

29. Just watch. No one will defend Sanders on this. nt

 

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:29 PM

37. Nice, now you are channeling Trump.

 

Grow the hell up.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #37)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:31 PM

41. You might tell that to your candidate. nt

 

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #41)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:33 PM

45. My candidate doesn't throw childish tantrums when questioned by young, Green Peace activists.

 

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #45)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:38 PM

48. No he throws an entire campaign of them.

 

Very angry man who decided to go sexist in a desperate attempt to salvage his pathetic, angry, bitter losing campaign.

Looking forward to seeing him drummed out of public life.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #48)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:39 PM

50. Sexist? You are so full of absolute shit.

 

There is nothing sexist about it. And you don't think there is either. You aren't stupid.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #50)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:43 PM

52. Saying Hillary Clinton isn't qualified is most

 

certainly a sexist dog whistle.

He didn't say she had the wrong ideas. He said she was not qualified.

He and his BernieBros Devine and Weaver knew what they were doing.

They'll raise quite a bit of money off of this.

Glad I don't have to decide whether to vote for him in the fall.

Angry demagogues always show their true selves.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #52)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:47 PM

53. You are insulting the feminist cause with your absolute nonsense.

 

First off, her campaign leaked last night that they were going to paint HIM as disqualified.

Secondly, he never once alluded to or said anything about her being disqualified because of her gender. You are pulling that completely out of your ass. You play loose and thin with the concept of honesty and that says a whole lot more about you than it does about ANY other candidate. You have no credibility at this juncture. NONE.

When people said Palin was disqualified, was that dog whistle sexism?

Answer honestly, yes or no.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #53)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:50 PM

58. Disqualify does not mean unqualified

 

And Sarah Palin was a nitwit with no real relevant experience or time on the national stage.

She was unqualified.

He is going to pay a heavy price for this juvenile stunt of his.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #58)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:45 AM

63. "She was unqualified." >>> By your standards, you are a sexist.

 

And disqualified and unqualified do mean the same thing in the context of the banter going back and forth between the 2 campaigns.

You are losing this argument.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #63)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:47 AM

64. Sarah Palin was genuinely unqualified.

 

The same cannot be said about Clinton.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #64)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:52 AM

65. Well I posted a thread earlier that said both are qualified.

 

Both meaning Clinton and Sanders.

But my point is, Bernie is fighting back against her campaign's announcement that they are going to paint him as unqualified. You act like he has no right to fight back.

Personally, I wish he wouldn't get down in the muck with the Clinton campaign, but that is what is happening and there is nothing sexist about any of the reasons he cited for his "no, she is unqualified" speech. He articulated his reasoning based on her Wall Street ties and her hawkish national security views. That is NOT sexist and you look desperate for claiming as such.

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Response to phleshdef (Reply #65)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:58 AM

66. He was not defending himself. He dived into the gutter to attack her.

 

Do you really think he could handle Trump if a press report that Clinton planned to say mean things about him caused him to implode like this?

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #66)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 01:04 AM

67. He didn't implode. Clinton has already said mean things about him.

 

And Sanders has been very disciplined in not going against her on non-issues. The Clinton baggage runs deep and he has stayed away from that baggage for the most part. We all know it, even if we don't want to admit it. I don't have a lot against the Clinton's personally, and I've always said, I'll vote for her in November, I'm not a fucking idiot.

Aside from that, Bernie could unleash against Donald Trump in a way that far goes beyond ANYTHING he has said about Hillary Clinton and most of the country would cheer him for it. Donald Trump is dog shit. There is no doubt in my mind that Bernie could justifiably call Donald Trump "unqualified" and it would actually be accepted as true.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #17)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:30 PM

38. Yup.

 

He's starting to make me question if he is Senate material at this point.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:41 PM

2. We know your opinion.

 

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Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:42 PM

5. and i don't think she is

So our opinions wash each other out

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:43 PM

6. He certainly is qualified

Both of our candidates are supremely qualified for the job.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:07 PM

16. One of our candidates are supremely qualified.

 

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Response to KMOD (Reply #16)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:10 PM

19. In your opinion

Opinions vary - "qualification" isn't even on my radar, and no amount of bickering will change my view of this topic. If one of them is secretly a child molester or murderer, then I might reconsider.

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Response to Dem2 (Reply #19)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:28 PM

34. That's weird.

 

but whatever.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #34)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:50 PM

56. I am weird!

I like both of our candidates.

I don't like attacking either Democratic candidate.


Sucks being a Democrat here at times.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:44 PM

7. How is she qualified to manage conflicts, given Iraq, Libya and Syria?

The next President will need to clean up her messes on Day One. And that's real life - just ask the people in those countries who have seen her work up close.

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Response to CanadaexPat (Reply #7)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:09 PM

18. There is no other Presidential Candidate more better prepared

 

to handle the foreign conflicts.

As a bonus, Hillary Clinton is respected and admired by World Leaders and citizens around the globe.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #18)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:11 PM

20. Handle, or start?

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:44 PM

8. I feel just the opposite as you. nt

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:47 PM

10. Wow. All that and no reason why he was supposedly not qualified... Sheesh

 

Nothing but a few insults to both Sanders and his supporters.


"Enough." Indeed.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:49 PM

11. Hillary doesn't get any points for her LGBT record from me as a gay person.

 

The mystery to me is how people can be so delusional as to think putting a status quo politician in the White House is appropriate. Hello, millions of people are dissatisfied with the current state of affairs and voting for a FASCIST. Wake the fuck up!

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 10:52 PM

13. Funny thing when I look at your list.

"Civil rights and equal justice desperately need to be addressed."-Who supports the death penalty?
"Abortion rights are being eroded."-Who says we must be willing to limit late term abortions?
"LGBT rights are constantly under attack."-Who was attacking them until the last few years?
"We still need to improve Health care and Health care access."-Who says slowly and incrementally and leave the parasites to profit?
"College debt is a huge problem."-Who wants to spread your debt over 20 years?
"We still need sensible solutions to handle Climate change."- Who wants to continue fracking?
"Global conflicts are real and will require sensible, knowledgeable and realistic dialogue and plans."-Who is more likely to go to war?
Who is ignorant and dangerous?

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Response to dogman (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:25 PM

28. Bernie is ignorant and dangerous.

 

Hillary Clinton does not support State sanctioned death penalties.

You would be hard pressed to find a woman willing to terminate in her 8th or 9th month of pregnancy, unless her health or the fetus's heath was in danger.

Hillary Clinton has been a big supporter of LGBT rights.

I have no idea what you are referring to with health care. Surely you must know she has been a huge advocate for it for decades.

Bernie's college debt plan is a fantasy. Hillary is offering real help.

I'm in disagreement with Hillary on fracking. I am not for it at all. However, in order to get off of fossil fuels we need a real source of energy to take it's place. Fracking, which I do not care for, is cleaner than coal. We need a lot more attention and resources to get there.

Bernie is against fracking, and against nuclear. That's great, but where does he imagine we will get our energy from? We are still far away from Solar and Wind power.

Hillary is not a war hawk, and I'm tired of this implication. She has been exceptional in promoting dialogue and getting people to the table to work out differences. Nobody does that better.

Bernie is ignorant and dangerous.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #28)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:48 PM

55. This borders on silliness, sorry.

1) She talked about the unborn child (R talking point)
She knows how to use her words, so no excuse.

2) Until 2013 she was a strong supporter of marriage
between a man and a woman only. (R talking points)

3) Her healthcare plans always supported private
insurance companies as well as big Pharma. She
may call that universal or not.
4)Why do you call Bernie's college plan a fantasy,
when it was almost clearly there before Raygun
stopped it in CA? Her program is minimalist.
5) The planet, including you, cannot wait for incrementalism,
we need a serious Manhatten project for this.
6) no, she did not promote dialogue, her speech about
Iraq, her push about Libya, her insistence to get
militarily involved in Syria point to the exact opposite.

Lastly, Bernie is neither naive nor ignorant. He has shown

to show very good judgment in comparison to hers, including

her idiotic one about a private server for SoS business.

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Response to sadoldgirl (Reply #55)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:03 AM

61. Oh dear,

 

1. Chuck Todd called it an unborn child.

2. http://www.hrc.org/blog/human-rights-campaign-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president

3. Blowing up all of our progress in health care will hurt so many people. This is a huge issue for me. But you don't kill all the progress we have made and start from zero to try again. This is a life or death issue.


4. Because it is a fantasy. C'mon, use you head here.

5. We also need energy. The public will not give it up there power.

6. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-garners-award-for-role-in-easing-the-northern-ireland-conflict/2015/03/16/d80780f6-cbf6-11e4-a2a7-9517a3a70506_story.html

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Response to dogman (Reply #13)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:31 PM

42. No kidding. Good response. I agree completely.

I think Bernie's point about judgement is a good one.
- Iraq War
- Panama Free Trade,
- very few flip-flops for Bernie - was on the side of right out the gate while Hillary is riddled with flip-flops

Who is more susceptible to blackmail? The Clinton with all their scandals and the Clinton Foundation or Bernie. It's pretty obvious.

Who is more honest and trustworthy. Hands down, Bernie with hundreds of polls to back that up.

We could go on and on.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:14 PM

22. Bernie Sanders is qualified to be President of the United States

 

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:25 PM

27. He is not presidential material in any way. He's an embarrassment Nt

 

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Response to Sheepshank (Reply #27)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:26 PM

30. Indeed.

 

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:26 PM

31. Good lord, get the sniffing salts. What a bunch of hyperbolic tripe.

 

You never expected him to get this far and now you are all in fits. Good stuff.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:28 PM

32. Bernie and his supporters are very aware this is not a game. They are in it for the Presidency

and she is the one playing games, lying, debating unethically and trashing Bernie.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:28 PM

33. I agree with your concerns.

And the stakes are high. That's why not supporting Bernie, and settling for Hillary is IMO an incredibly selfish, and dangerous decision. We have a chance in a lifetime to elect a true progressive and that is not Hillary.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:29 PM

36. Thank you for creating a checklist

Of all the reasons I support Bernie over Hillary.

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Response to SheenaR (Reply #36)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:32 PM

43. OK

 

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:30 PM

40. Not a GAME? Oh jeez, but we were having so much fun protesting!! Come on!!

Let us have a little more fun, please!!!

We're just goofing around, we're kids after all!

It's just a game, man! Let us play!!

Fucking condescending bullshit, KMOD. No wonder where that tone came from though.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #40)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:35 PM

46. I'm sick of it.

 

You want to talk about condescending?

Bernie Sanders whole campaign has been full of it.

He's a clueless, ignorant, buffoon. And I've had enough.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #46)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:40 PM

51. That's too bad

Because its not going to end anytime soon. Your disgusting amoral candidate is not going to walk away with this.

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Response to KMOD (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 7, 2016, 12:22 AM

62. I am so far beyond sick of Hillary that I haven't the words.

She's a the fakest, most callous and cynical and nauseatingly amoral politician I have ever seen run for the Democratic nomination in 30 years.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:37 PM

47. Lol. no really, lol.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:38 PM

49. He's qualified for president

 

Here are the requirements:

The Constitution gives three eligibility requirements to be president: one must be 35 years of age, a resident "within the United States" for 14 years, and a "natural born Citizen," a term not defined in the Constitution.

Sanders meets them.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:50 PM

57. All counts are important..

 

That's why Bernie is the ONLY qualified candidate for the post.

With Hillary, SCOTUS will not repeal Citizens United.

Hillary fails on every single count, and her electability is far weaker than Bernie Sanders in matchups.

Bernie Sanders plattform is stronger than Hillary's, and he's not corrupted like she is. Besides, these issues you address has never been issues Hillary has really cared about.

She don't care about PoC, only their votes.
She is against universal healthcare.
She didn't care about LGBT rights until 2010.

She has been a part of the problem with global conflict.
She is not realistic, nor is she liberal in her approach. She is a war hawk with so many blemishes on her foreign policy record, they should have landed her in a war crimes tribunal together with the Bush crime family.

She has experience in corruption and destroying othert countries.
She certainly feels more at home with NRA lobbyists, Wall Street and arms dealers than with young activists asking simple questions or black kids asking tough questions about her racial dog whistle in the 90's. She's more tired of leftists than donors and voters.

Besides, she plays dirty and plays the victim when being hit back with truths about how she is not qualified to be president.
She will NOT draw new voters in. Instead, she is doing her best to alienate millions of voters.




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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:54 PM

59. He has foresight

 

Hillary?

Not so much.

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Response to KMOD (Original post)

Wed Apr 6, 2016, 11:56 PM

60. I love these kinds of posts.

It tells me that Bernie is right where he needs to be.

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