OMFG anyone listening to CNN right now? Clinton has had it with Bernie.

[jillan]

As she is going to go full negative to disqualify him.

[Jarqui]

1. What? Lying, deception and dirty tricks aren't working for her? nt

[BlueCaliDem]

41. Yeah. Like Bernie's been doing these past weeks. Turnabout is fair play.

And it's about time!

[Jarqui]

52. There isn't a US politician in the last 100 years who can

hold a candle to her in terms in terms of lying, deception and dirty tricks.

I protested Nixon and I think she's got Tricky Dick handily beat. Nearly every speech and certainly every debate, she's lying or deceiving about something. Same routine from 2008 except now, I'm not sure she cares.

Sanders isn't remotely close to her in that regard. Never has been and he never will be.

90% of Wisconsin Democrats Think Sanders Is Honest, Compared to Only 59% Who Think Clinton Is Honest

That ignore Independents and Republicans where those numbers are much worse for Clinton.

[BlueCaliDem]

60. Well, Bernie is better at it, and there's plenty proof of that IF you paid attention.

But, of course, you won't. It's okay. Bernie ain't gonna win the nomination anyway.

[Jarqui]

64. As my post above shows, the voters don't think so

But I would quickly concede she isn't as good a liar as her husband. She's not smart enough.

[BlueCaliDem]

74. Your post above shows nothing but your partisanship, but the 2.5 million MORE votes Hillary's has

over Bernie proves you wrong.

Fact remains, Bernie lies worse than Hillary (and he's not even good at it) and when it comes to dirty politics - as he's now engaged in and has been from the start - Hillary can give as good as she gets.

Stay tuned.

[kristopher]

92. To be continued in the early morning hours of June 8th. nt

[BlueCaliDem]

120. I'm certain it'll be over after April 26 - if he can continue to afford the FEC fines.

[daleanime]

130. What did Hillary raise last month?

Even with the $10,000 a plate dinners.

[BlueCaliDem]

131. For down-ticket Dems or herself? At least she doesn't have to give any money back OR

has gotten a single FEC warning letter. Bernie's gotten TWO of them.

His treasurer sucks.

[daleanime]

136. Surprise, when you trying to change things, those who currently benefit from the system....

don't like you. We welcome your hatred, but we like you anyways. Have a lovely night.

[BlueCaliDem]

139. Oh, you mean burn down the village to save it?

Yeah. That makes so much sense, what with Republicans at the door. Real smart.

Have a lovely night, too.

[cprise]

141. Take a look at our foreign policy and ask who is burning what.

While you're at it, look at what DWS has done to the party.

[Jarqui]

93. That's just another Hillary deception

She's ignoring or disenfranchising all the voters those caucuses represent.

You can guzzle that KoolAid but most of us know better.

When she couldn't win enough delegates against Obama, she pulled this same crap - counting Michigan where Obama name's wasn't on the ballot, etc - ignoring the population of what caucus votes represent. There's something wrong with the woman in the head to rant about silly stuff like that. The contest was for delegates and she lost ... but she's running around with her funny math trying to claim she won .... it was pretty pathetic.

Did it ever occur that the reason Obama and Sanders win these caucuses is because the folks attending them are more informed with what is going on politically. They know all about dishonest Hillary. And that's why Democrats Abroad or the youth heavily support Sanders - because they're on the internet, bypassing the mainstream media the Clintons own and seeing her for what she really is.

That's always been Hillary's problem. The more people find out about her, the less they like her. That's not a good trait for the general election. The GOP will make sure people find out a lot about her - a bunch that's been forgotten - that isn't very nice.

Now that things are getting a little dicey in this primary, she's pulling the same crap. Nothing new here.

[notadmblnd]

107. Where does that 2.5 million number come from?

Can you show me this math you all are constantly talking about?

[BlueCaliDem]

121. Google.

[jcgoldie]

171. currently 2.4

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[JDPriestly]

108. Please give a link to a lie that Bernie told.

[BlueCaliDem]

117. If you don't know one by now, you're either ignoring them or you're trying to be cute.

Either way, as Jon Stewart once famously said, I won't be your monkey.

[Hiraeth]

122. too late.

[BlueCaliDem]

126. Only in your mind.

[Hiraeth]

132. and the monkey just keeps on giving.

[BlueCaliDem]

134. What monkey?

[Hiraeth]

135. kootchy koo.

[BlueCaliDem]

137. I double dare you.

[bvf]

143. !

[riversedge]

176. Hint--look for 3 Pinnochios AND the 4 Pinochios Sanders got a few days ago (2 separate occasions)

[JDPriestly]

195. The 3 Pinnochios were shown to be wrongly given because GreenPeace has the statistics.

I don't know about 4 Pinochios.

How many Pinnochios did Hillary get for lying about Bernie's healthcare plan replacing Obamacare when it is planned to build on and improve Obamacare?

How many Pinnochios does Hillary get for saying Bernie's free tuition at state colleges and schools is impossible when Bernie has a specific plan for paying for that plan and when we see how much tax evasion has already occurred with the outing of the Panama law firm that is one of the many firms that organizes it?

[riversedge]

197. So, did Fact check retract? and this

conversation is not about Hillary so I will not discuss.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

79. lol

you are silly

[BlueCaliDem]

81. lol

Backatcha.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

91. They got a name for the winners in the world

$hillaries need to learn how winners act

[BlueCaliDem]

124. Yeah, they do. And it ain't Bernie.

Berniebers need to accept that.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

127. cut it out

i will look into that

[BlueCaliDem]

128. The truth doth hurt.

[bkkyosemite]

158. some people these days are in such denial.

[dchill]

159. EVERYBODY'S better at it.

We're talking massive quantity here, not quality. It's one thing to lie. It's another to do it so frequently and badly that it's automatically presumed to be your SOP, and that you're doing it again. There must be a word beyond cynical to describe my attitude with both your candidate and her following here.

[BlueCaliDem]

166. But particularly Sanders since his entire campaign is predicated on a LIE.

You can claim that there's massive quantities of lies perpetrated by Hillary Clinton and her followers, but that's most likely in your mind and how you prefer to read them. You most likely consider her change of opinion on certain issues "lies" when it's just what a leader needs to do - change when the people you want to serve have a change of heart, too. That's what leaders do in a democracy. Being rigid and unwilling to compromise (as Bernie is wont to do) are the characteristics of a tyrant.

But the greatest, biggest, most boldest lie being told to the American people who should know better, is telling them that his campaign is about a political revolution, and then does nothing, nada, zip, zilch to push for that revolution other than enrich oneself to the point of FEC illegalities, making that the grandfather of LIES and his entire campaign a LIE.

Bernie is now getting the vetting that's long overdue (seen the New York Daily cover this morning yet?), and getting the attention his followers believe he hasn't gotten (which is malarkey). I've said it before to Bernie supporters, and I'll say it again: be careful what you wish for.

If Bernie wants to become president for whatever ego-tripping he's caught in, let him run on the Socialist Party or Green Party ticket. He will NOT take my Party down by weakening the brand that President Obama has worked so hard to make strong, and this is exactly why true-blue Democrats across the nation are supporting Hillary Clinton, not him. This is seen in closed primaries where Independents and Republicans can't crossover to cast their vote against the long-time Democrat that Republicans fear the most.

[dchill]

178. Yes, "her change of opinion on certain issues" are lies.

Even you can't say what positions she would take in the Oval Office, but you can bet they won't be progressive or liberal ones. I'll not further disabuse you of your notions, since it's clear that you are eminently qualified to promulgate these fictions.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

152. We have now seen someone saying Nixon is better than Clinton.

And I bet nobody here will even raise an eyebrow.

[Jarqui]

169. Don't hurt your head too much on a self inflicted conclusion

Hillary just lies a lot more than Nixon. That doesn't mean Nixon is "better".

Nixon was a better liar in terms of he didn't get caught as much. He just got caught being really naughty once and that cost him big time.

Hillary and Bill haven't been caught being really naughty ... yet. They're not clear of the email thing and Foundation issues yet.

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

156. At least Nixon

passed the Clean Air Act.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

83. she is acting like she is in bosnia and is running from the incoming

lol

[BlueCaliDem]

119. You really need to get some new material. Much like Bernie's stump speeches, yours are stale.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

123. say it - please - say it

cut it out

lol

[BlueCaliDem]

125. Oh, excuse me. I thought I was posting with a grown up, My bad.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

129. if you want something real - i am willing

Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now

hillary thinks war with isis is the greatest challenge america faces

more americans will dies from falls in the bathroom that isis will harm

she might want to rethink this one

your turn

[BlueCaliDem]

133. I'm still waiting for the "real" part. Those were some lousy examples.

Try harder, and leave the speculation and RW rhetoric out of it. You know? To keep it real.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

138. wow - do you not know you candidate?

in an early debate the question was asked - what is the greatest threat america faces?

$hillary - isis

Sanders - climate change

real question - real answers

she said something stupid - sanders told an inconvenient truth

and you blow it

typical $hillaryite

[BlueCaliDem]

140. I know my candidate very well. You don't appear to know yours nor how your own gov't works.

And name-calling is so, how shall I say it? Juvenile. No wonder you support Bernie and believe he'll make all those unicorns real.

[SoLeftIAmRight]

142. cut it out

you asked for something real - you get it - you run away like you are in bosnia

be well

[Kentonio]

198. If you think fear about climate change is RW rhetoric, you should probably worry

[Lordquinton]

114. Nope.

[BlueCaliDem]

118. Yeeup.

[Avalux]

153. What the fuck are you talking about? Y'all must have taken the wrong pill. n/t

[BlueCaliDem]

167. Didn't your Mama tell you that resorting to foul words is a sign you can't defend your position

and you've already lost the argument? Tsk. Tsk.

[Bluenorthwest]

175. Here is an arugment you lost and I delight in the fact that your bigoted views did fail:

BlueCaliDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-04 03:14 PM


"Gay marriage is for me unthinkable, but Civil Unions have my 100% vote. I believe that marriage is something done in churches, and the Bible does speak negatively about homosexuality.
However, allowed to be "married" by a Mayor, or a power-invested civil servant for gays, and lesbians, is right, and good.? "
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1352110

Unthinkable, the Bible speaks negatively! Allow them. Allow. Allowed to be "air quotes married" by some 'civil servant for gays'.



The way you carried on in this thread really called for some context. So I provided some by quoting you.

[merrily]

161. LOL!

[BlueCaliDem]

168. LOL!

[Barack_America]

2. Yeah. That's what Clintons do.

[merrily]

162. Did it in then (2008) and they're doing it again.

[jillan]

3. All hell is going to break out if she goes there.

[Major Hogwash]

16. Do you think she will hire a hitman like David Brock to do her bidding??

Oh, shit, she already did!!!

How did that turn out for her?

[BlueCaliDem]

45. Yes, it will. And he's going to get mighty hurt.

[roguevalley]

106. no he isn't. he isn't running a sham foundation, lying about snipers,

selling out abortion rights, taking millions from amoral billionaire bankers and stealing every policy he has. There is one thing I can't wait to hear. I can't wait to hear her fake Brooklyn accent.

[floppyboo]

4. 'Destroy and Disqualify'

jeepers. That'll endear her to the other half. continuing the DWS strategy - destroy the party

[jillan]

6. She thinks the Bernie or Bust movement is big now?

[HooptieWagon]

179. It's going to get much bigger.

People are sick and tired of Clinton dirty politics, her lying, her sense of entitlement, and Clinton corruption.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

109. She's playing with fire!!

[Lordquinton]

115. She's gonna get Berned!

[Jefferson23]

5. The gun issue, yea I heard them. Remind the devotees FOUR DEMOCRATS are the reason Obama's

gun legislation after Newtown did not pass..Bernie voted for it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gun-control-overhaul-is-defeated-in-senate/2013/04/17/57eb028a-a77c-11e2-b029-8fb7e977ef71_story.html

[jillan]

12. The truth is - and I am anti-gun - it would help him in the GE. Many people, even liberals are

pro gun.

[kristopher]

70. In the present climate there is no value in fighting the Constitution

First, as demonstrated by PA in 2008, recall the insincerity of Hillary's position on guns.

Second, the reality is that the frustration of hitting the constitutional wall is push us to attempt outlandish measures equivalent to the rightwing attacks on abortion - by that I'm specifically thinking of the push to impose liability on gun related businesses who are engaging in good business practices.

Those types of strategies can't succeed in the long run and seem to me more a form of cynical political manipulation (like PA) than an actual attempt to address the problem.

Finally, we DO have a problem in our culture with not just guns, but violence of all kinds. It's my opinion that Bernie is on the right path to addressing that violence. In support of that let me throw out two rather startling observations that I think are directly linked.

Japan has one of the lowest rates of violence in the world.
In Japan, surveys show that 99% of the people self identify as "middle class".

The stress of economic exploitation is literally causing us to tear our own heart out.

[jillan]

75. I actually think that Bernie is the perfect person to take on gun violence. The repukes

cannot go after him and say that he wants to take our guns away.

Everything Bernie supports about gun regs is exactly what President Obama has proposed.

The gun issue will help Hillary in the Primary but will hurt her in the GE.

[kristopher]

86. I don't see any path where we solve gun violence with legislation on guns.

There is certainly room to improve personal accountability by getting rid of things like stand-your-ground, improving safety with things like personal ID safety lock systems, and far better screening and training. And those measures will go far in reducing overall homicide, suicide and assault with firearms.

But the crazy stuff like Sandy Hook is at an altogether different level of causation. That's a form of cultural insanity.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

155. So you acknowledge ALL politicians do shit that we dont like, good.

[TheBlackAdder]

24. Half of NY's population lives in gun country.

[geek tragedy]

94. That is blatantly not true. 60% is NYC metro. nt

[global1]

7. That Says To Me That The Clinton Campaign Is Worried That Bernie Can Pull This Out.....

he is a threat. They are getting desperate and they will do everything possible to take him out - and if the do resort to full negative tactics - that will be Hillary's undoing. She will most certainly lose if she goes 'scorched earth'.

[nadinbrzezinski]

19. Were you in my living room?

Hubby and I just had that conversation!

[Carolator]

33. So did my DH and I

It's pretty obvious -- my God, it was such a shitshow in NY with the "media" already today.

[dana_b]

51. yep! She's very worried

and she should be.

"She will most certainly lose if she goes 'scorched earth' - true. NYers are very knowledgeable and won't put up with it.

Go Bernie!

[tex-wyo-dem]

146. Yep, totally agree...

If she weren't worried, she'd just kinda ignore Bernie and slip into her GE centrist Hillary...that's of course before she turns into her true self, RW neocon Hillary if she ever made it to the WH.

Her campaign is truly worried.

Her trust numbers are abysmal, and it was clearly shown in the exit poll data tonight.

As voters get to know her better, the less they like her.

[jeff47]

149. Yep. Apparently she did not learn anything from 2008. (nt)

[Viva_La_Revolution]

8. First honest thing i've heard out of them

So there's that

[BernieforPres2016]

9. I hope she does

It will just remind people of who she is and drive her negatives up. It would look like panic. If she is the inevitable nominee, why would she spend money on negative ads against Sanders?

I am hoping there is a lot more news from the Panama Papers story between now and the New York debate.

[Autumn]

10. Please proceed former First Lady

please proceed.

[snagglepuss]

11. I dont have TV. What does she mean disqualify him?

[jillan]

13. These are the Clintons we are talking about. One can only imagine.

[SheenaR]

14. I can't imagine anyone intelligent

Is telling her to do this.

A "frontrunner" with an "insurmountable" lead would never do this.

[CoffeeCat]

15. I heard this!

I heard this. The CNN talking heads said that "Clinton is done with Bernie Sanders" and we were told that they will be going after him now with constant attacks. The talking heads said this was in response to the Clinton campaign watching the Wisconsin returns come in. Ha! I guess they don't like that he's 13 points ahead at the moment.

Dana Bash said (I'm paraphrasing) that they first ignored Sanders, then treated him like a fringe candidate, then things started ramping up--but now they're really going to go after him.

I am dying laughing over here, because the Clinton machine has been throwing so much mud. It's been laughable on DU.

I hope that they really attempt to go into warp overdrive. I really want to see what that looks like, because they've been making complete fools of themselves throwing everything at Sanders. Last week...Bernie was paying Tad Devine too much and enriching him. Oh, the horrors! This week, it's Bernie's tax returns.

Supposedly, they're going to go after him on guns. OMG...seriously. They tried that earlier in the campaign, with no effect. Eric Garner's daughter endorses Bernie. I'm sure he'll use that very powerful ad in NY.

I look forward to Hillary going "more negative" because she's practically unhinged right now. If she wants to go from rabid wolverine mode to crazed Tasmanian Devil on acid, I say BRING IT!.

[Nite Owl]

42. She' blaming Vermont

For letting NYers get guns and bring them into NY to commit crimes.
Gov Shumlin was on the news here saying how ridiculous it was to blameVT
for crime in NY.

[CoffeeCat]

57. See...when Hillary becomes afraid

and runs on fear, she seems oblivious to how ridiculous her arguments become.

It's like watching someone in a mud puddle, flinging poo around like a crazy person and believing that this behavior is hurting their opponent. When really, they've just muddied themselves while everyone is astounded at the nut job who is flailing around in the mud puddle.

[Nite Owl]

82. Should be quite the debate

She'll be all rehearsed and get that strange look on her face. Well at least Bernie will be ready. Advertising in NY is expensive we have to up the donations. It must get her even angrier to see Bernie get more money every month while needs fundraisers.

[beltanefauve]

148. Time to give Bernie

more money!

[karynnj]

196. Whose seriously dumb idea was this? Attacking Vermont?

I bet Vermont's favorability rating beats Hillary's. Not to mention, Vermont's crime rate is way below NY's. Care to guess which state is listed here as the safest -- I'll save you a few clicks -- it is Vermont. NY is not in the 10 safest. http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/business/2015/01/03/24-7-wall-st-most-dangerous-states/21214169/

In fact, one thing Vermont has been addressing is that the source of lots of illegal drugs in VT is NYC. http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/local/2016/01/11/del-pozo-lays-out-plan-combat-drug-trafficking/78636480/

Yet, I doubt Senator Sanders, former mayor of Burlington will blame that on NYS or Hillary Clinton.

[Carolator]

44. First they ignore you

You know the rest...

Then they laugh at you

Then they fight you

Then you WIN.

Ghandi said his movement won because "of the nature of our character".

Whenever I despair, I remember that the way of truth and love has always won. There may be tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they may seem invincible, but in the end, they always fail. Think of it: always.

[renate]

147. I'm curious about whether they think this is actually a good idea

I guess they must really be panicking about Bernie. Because I can do math and even I, a diehard Bernie supporter, can see that he has a very steep hill to climb.

With Trump looking less likely and the RNC behind Cruz (and the general election looking tougher as a result), is Hillary's going negative on Bernie REALLY worth pissing off a huge percentage of his devoted and enthusiastic base?

Really? Because maybe I'm totally wrong about the odds and they truly are worried about him.

[Land of Enchantment]

180. LOL! Now that would be teevee worth watching!!!!! nt

[DebbieCDC]

181. ^THIS^

[pa28]

17. Oh, I thought she was inevitable. "Math" and all that.

If she's so inevitable why is engaging in a full out scorched earth campaign against her opponent? Did CNN bother to pose that question?

[Red Oak]

21. +1 - This

[srobert]

58. I'm Fairly Proficient at Math. Bernie Can Win

I'm a licensed professional engineer. I think I know how to do math. In fact I have more confidence in my ability to do math than I do in that of the talking heads at CNN, Fox, or MSNBC. There are still enough delegates available in this election for Bernie Sanders to win the nomination. There is a substantial possibility that he will do so. I was at the Clark County Democratic Convention in Las Vegas on Saturday. Bernie Sanders won Nevada on Saturday, a state that he is supposed to have already lost in February. The talking heads haven't yet adjusted their delegate count to reflect that inconvenient fact. The reason Bernie won Nevada was because of the enthusiasm of his supporters, and the absence of the same for Hillary's. That was something I witnessed. Though I could not measure or quantify. It was palpable. Don't believe the Big Lie that Bernie cannot win, VOTE.

[Voice for Peace]

78. Thank you!

[2banon]

111. Thank You!

I'm lousy at math, but I can count and I can add and subtract. Not very good at doing percentages, but I know how to figure out work arounds.

All that to say, I have no idea what these spinners are talking about. They seem to be relying some abstract theories only the insiders like to use as their working formulas.

So I'm going to rely on your abilities to break it down when ever necessary and when you have time of course!

Thanks again!

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. Cool, so how fast until the more overt antisemitism shows up?

Yes, I fully expect it.

[jillan]

59. In New York? That will go over well. lol :)

[nadinbrzezinski]

61. And don't get me started on Los Angeles

oy

[zappaman]

145. What's the problem with Los Angeles?

Please proceed, Governor.

[geek tragedy]

95. preemptive outrage is rarely accurate nt

[nadinbrzezinski]

99. But her 2008 campaign was very ugly

perhaps you forgot, but we haven't.

[geek tragedy]

101. It's not going to be Jew-baiting. It's going to be Israel

Sanders has said some brave and truthful things regarding that conflict, but there is a political price.

Schumer, Engel, Steve Israel etc will be making that argument,.

Clinton is not afraid of a loss here--she wants a crushing win.

[nadinbrzezinski]

102. We shall wait

For a reminder

[geek tragedy]

103. She was behind and desperate in 2008.

She is not as good as Obama at making ruthlessness seem like graciousness.

[nadinbrzezinski]

104. I will repeat this, we shall wait for what dog whistles are used.

[AgerolanAmerican]

105. That will be rich

A midwestern shiksa trying to out-Israel a Brooklyn-born Jewish opponent in New York State? Oy vey!

Maybe she can trot out her famous "fucking Jew bastard" line again?

[CompanyFirstSergeant]

172. Be advised...

Many Americans, but particularly New Yorkers, may not identify as Jewish, but do acknowledge Jewish blood in their veins.

My grandmother was Jewish, and I have been very keen on these issues even though I would not show up on anyone's radar screen as Jewish.

Hillary panders.

Bernie supports.

[AgerolanAmerican]

183. I would show up on that radar

and I'm absolutely appalled that Hillary would attempt to use Israel as a lever against Sanders.

[geek tragedy]

20. They've been going negative for a week now.

And it wasn't Clinton wanting to go negative. She gave her supporters permission--they were eager to hammer Sanders here. And that is what they are doing here.

If he thought he was going to waltz in here, wave his hands and sprinkle fairy dust and walk away with a win...

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

25. Please....

Her committing to going negative and scorched earth means she feels there is a significant threat to her nomination... I think not only New York but she is worried if he survives New York that California is berning. She is hoping to knock him out before then.

[timmymoff]

34. Spin it how you want

[frylock]

80. Yeah, we've noticed a signifigant uptick in weak-ass bullshit.

To learn that you've received your marching orders... errrrrrrr.. permission to release the hounds is of little surprise.

[LAS14]

188. I sure didn't see any "going negative."

She drew distinctions between positions. She didn't malign his character as he does with references to campaign donations.

[geek tragedy]

189. surrogates have been pounding him on the gun issue.

it started last week with locals Michael Blake and Nydia Velazquez.

They ratcheted it up this week with Connecticut's US Senators.

these are not people who are being drafted into service, they are eager

[LAS14]

190. How is "pounding him on the gun issue"...

... "negative?" It's a position. Not a slur on his character. SHE "pounded him on the gun issue" in the CNN interview. Position vs character.

[geek tragedy]

191. did you see the NYDN cover page?

that's not only negative, it's brutal

that's what's going on.

negative doesn't necessarily mean character attacks

[LAS14]

192. I saw it and I deplore it.

1 - I count it as a character attack because of the choice of picture and the font and the language.

2 - Hillary's campaign had nothing to do with it.

[geek tragedy]

193. Hillary's campaign are the ones who set that story up.

Do you think both of Connecticut's US Senators just happened to be reading Bernie's NYDN interview and tweeting out responses?

[KMOD]

22. I saw Jeff Weaver get schooled

big time.

Everyone is like.... are you sane?

[riversedge]

26. Yes. it was beautiful

[Fumesucker]

23. Please proceed, Madam Secretary

[geek tragedy]

32. She doesn't need to say a single negative word.

She has the Congressional Representatives, the Assembly Reps, the State Senators, US Senators, mayors, borough presidents, governor, etc etc. to hammer him on her behalf.

Bernie has no friends left in the old neighborhood.

[Fumesucker]

39. She can't help herself, it's who she is and what she does

I'm not that much younger than her, people seldom make 180 degree turns in their psyche at our age.

[geek tragedy]

50. She can stick to a script. But at the debate you can bet if Bernie decides to go negative

he'll get it back. if he plays nice she will play nice.

While her surrogates trash him in the local communities.

[Fumesucker]

69. She's easily rattled by those she thinks of as inferiors, their impertinence gets her goat

All you have to do is look at Sanders and you can tell he's her social inferior at least in her mind.

[geek tragedy]

71. You probably don't know her as well as you think you do

based on media coverage.

[frylock]

85. Or based on watching Hillary handle situations poorly..

when she has no idea that tape is rolling.

[frylock]

77. Omigosh this all sounds so foreboding!

[timmymoff]

47. We smell your fear,

We hear you whistling past the graveyard. We feel like we have seen this play out before in 2008. Please go negative against him Hillary, release your hate, show us you're entitled. Make us dislike you even more. Excellent strategy.

[beedle]

89. noticeably missing from your list of Hillary assets ...

.... "the people".

[geek tragedy]

90. there is no "the people" there are millions of different

human beings here.

Clinton will get more of those people voting for her than he will.

[beedle]

100. if you say so

"there are no 'the people' and Hillary will get them".

[berni_mccoy]

27. Their Internal Polls must look pretty shitty!

[Impedimentus]

28. I hope her campaign goes broke trying. She's at her worst when she's full of rage.

Time to send another $12 to Bernie.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

[bkkyosemite]

29. And they keep saying she will be nominee. Weaver tried to explain Bernie doesn't have

to get just 45-55....70/80% too. The shills always have an excuse before the primary and then change it after...it's an open primary yada yada yada

[MrMickeysMom]

30. She SHOULD just say it... She's really had it with HERSELF...

Don't you think anyone would be pretty pissed off upon gazing in the mirror, only to see a person who was good at laundering enough money to buy New York, yearned for world domination, and promised all the shivering corporate network anchors positions of importance in the White House....

I'd be pissed if I looked for this person in the mirror, but all I saw looking back was a negative frequent flyer of dirty elections who hardly ANYBODY trusts to be IN the White House.

Poor Hillary... May her chakras re-align.

[2banon]

31. Was she on CNN?

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Did they give Bernie air time?

[Fumesucker]

36. Bernie who?

/M$M

[merrily]

164. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280166952

[CentralCoaster]

49. CNN has permanent add bottom of screen: TOMORROW HILLARY CLINTON AT 11:15 AM ET!!!

It's pretty fucking funny.

Has a picture of her on the left then the large block letters burning up the screen.

[Kalidurga]

35. She is right on schedule

[angrychair]

37. Please proceed Madam Secretary

I think the guy with 30 years in Congress and 10 successful campaigns in a row can handle the newbie.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

38. Deja-vu all over again. Sure looks like 2008

when she went negative on Obama, complete with racist dog-whistles. We saw how well that worked for her.

[Doctor_J]

40. I don't get this. All of her mudslinging to this point has backfired

[Nite Owl]

63. It's really not a smart move

Bernie isn't going to just take it and be nice and she has a so much to sling back (and it'll be all true too.

[winter is coming]

73. When the only tool you have is a hammer... n/t

[jeff47]

150. It demonstrates just how inexperienced she actually is.

She's only run one seriously contested campaign before this - the 2008 primary. Her Senate runs were against teabaggers in a state where teabaggers can't possibly win statewide.

[suffragette]

43. Sounds like she is worried about NY

Bernie must be making headway there.

[SMC22307]

56. Is this what she thinks will appeal to New Yorkers?

Part of the reason she even became a senator is because her opponent Lazio acted like such a flaming asshole. She might want to re-think this one.

[suffragette]

88. Going negative is more about pushing away voters from him

Than encouraging them for her.

There's a strong backfire potential in this strategy.

[Octafish]

46. Bernie will keep on the high road.

He has so far.

[HassleCat]

48. Negative works

Running on issues is killing her. She inspires loyalty, but not enthusiasm. She has to hit Bernie where it hurts. Expect to hear about socialist dream time, unicorns and rainbows, lack of appeal to minority voters, shielding gun makers from lawsuits, and much, much more. Remember, it doesn't have to be true, as long as you can make it stick. If you want a clue about what's coming, think subway token crisis. The job of a political campaign is to make something out of nothing, and TokenGate suggests they are ramping up to do exactly that.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

65. She's been doing that for months and nobody cares.

If negative isn't working, going more negative won't make things better.

[senz]

72. Her surrogates on this forum have been trying to use his strengths against him.

The worst put up OPs about Bernie lying or having something to hide.

As if he were Hillary or something.

[senz]

53. Is she going to do it herself or have her surrogates do it?

I missed it.

If she goes any dirtier, I hope it sinks her.

[BillZBubb]

54. Obama said when Hillary confronted him at the airport, that was the moment he knew he'd win.

She had lost her cool and looked desperate. He knew he'd got to her.

Maybe Bernie's feeling that way tonight!

If Bernie can win big in NY, stick a fork in Hillary. That's when the super delegates start to re-align.

[SHRED]

66. Yep

[jfern]

55. I think you want the past tense

[SHRED]

62. This will backfire

[Carolator]

67. Didn't she just say on The View only this morning

How polite they are to one another and how they are not attacking?

And how "our" campaign is really doing so great because of it?

Entering to her campaign theme “Fight Song,” Clinton got a thundering reception from the mostly female audience, complete with a “Hillary! Hillary!” chant. The Democratic frontrunner, who is facing a similar threat to her nomination in Bernie Sanders to the one she succumbed to in 2008 with Barack Obama, began by sharing some of the lessons she’s carried into her current campaign. In a shot at Sanders, and perhaps Obama, Clinton said the biggest test for a president is the ability to “actually produce results for people, not just talk about it.”

But quickly, thanks to co-host Joy Behar, the conversation turned to this issue of sexism in the 2016 race, on both sides of the nomination process. Referencing Trump’s Twitter attacks on Heidi Cruz, his campaign manager’s battery against a reporter, and comments about “punishing” women for getting abortions, Behar asked, “What do you think will happen to women if Trump wins, god forbid?”
...
While Clinton played up her rivalry with Trump, she also played down any animosity between herself and Sanders. “I’m very proud of the campaign that Senator Sanders and I have run, because we’ve run it on issues compared to insults,” she said. “We’ve really tried to stay on issues and where we stand and what we would do, but we do have contrasts.” She pointed to a difference on guns as one example.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/05/hillary-clinton-hits-trump-plays-nice-with-bernie-on-breezy-sit-down-with-the-view.html

What a fraud.

ETA: Notice how she stuck the GUN thing in there -- clearly setting it up to attack him on this.

To repeat: WHAT. A. FRAUD.

[BillZBubb]

76. That's how Her Majesty works. She lies. Behind the scene she's got Brock and her slime balls

doing the dirty work. They must have come up with at least a half a dozen pathetic attacks on Bernie just today alone. "He used the word TOKEN! That proves he's a liar!" It would be comical if it wasn't so desperate and asinine.

[Carolator]

97. I thought the "token" was quaint.

Shows his history with NY...lived there 18 years.

Back in the day when he used the token and jumped the turnstile.

[Arugula Latte]

68. She's gonna say: "Cut it out! Stop this winning! I want my coronation!"

[lasttrip]

87. And they pick NY? Lol.

Won't go over well here.
Thanks jillan.
Peace.
LT

[bbgrunt]

96. so go ahead Hillary, show us how you REALLY feel....it's not a winning strategy.

[YASSIR THE FAT]

98. It'll only can go one way....

Repeat of 2008, part deux!

[me b zola]

185. LOL, part doh!

[riderinthestorm]

110. That only results in a hardening of resolve for Bernie supporters

It only stiffens our back.

Wrong wrong move.

Them's fighting words.

[longship]

112. Now that he is clearly winning.

Her only path to victory is to cheat.

Meanwhile, Bernie campaigns the honest way. And BTW, he's winning.

Cheaters never prosper! We're looking at you, Hillary Clinton. Birdie Sanders will not be defeated. Oregon was no accident. Hillary is worms meat. Birdies like worms.

[Nyan]

113. "I've had it with this guy who keeps winning, winning, and winning against me. Cut it out!"

[Lordquinton]

116. They need a sign

I almost slipped in the flop sweat.

[bvf]

174. LOL! The whole campaign

is at serious risk of dehydration.

[mhatrw]

144. WAIT!!! I THOUGHT CLINTON WAS INEVITABLE!!!

I mean, the corporate media told me so!

And told me so!

And told me so!

And told me so!

[JTFrog]

151. Well turnabout is fair play. n/t

[hollowdweller]

154. Problem with her doing that is it plays into the public perception of her persona.

As a ruthless politician who wants power for no other reason than to have it. That is willing to hurt anybody and say anything to get elected.

I'm not sure it will work for her.

And questioning whether he's a democrat? I mean was Bill Clinton a democrat?? My brother, who voted for Clinton calls him the best Republican president we ever had.

[Jackie Wilson Said]

157. Bernie has unwittingly created an army of supporters who in many cases due

to emotion and unfamiliarity with politics, may do the very thing Bernie would abhor, allow the GOP to take the WH.

If Bernie loses the nomination, it is a certainty he will come out in favor of Hillary and in very strong ways, but will the emotional followers listen?

[Bluenorthwest]

177. That's just more mean spiritied characterization. It's all such toxic language 'army of supporters'

who are too emotional (they say that about LGBT too) and not wise like you. It's unsupported gossip coming out of a biased partisan operative. I'm sick of it. It did not work for her in 08, did it?

[Jackie Wilson Said]

194. Army was meant in a positive way, but a better word would have been better. Emotional

was intentional.

I dont believe for one second people who will be the most harmed by GOP will stay home, no matter how loud they say no at this time.

[Orsino]

160. Disqualify?

Proceed.

[INdemo]

163. She did the same on MSNBC

so obviously she is nervous.
When ...in the last few weeks has she talked about issues? Its been all about negatives toward Bernie.How long now has she been trying to trash Bernie Sanders and has it worked? No..Bernie just keeps on winning and Hillary just stays pissed because she,being the anointed one,can't be crowned.

There is still a Path for Bernie to win this thing..

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

165. Is she going to "turn it up to 11"?

[DebbieCDC]

186. BWAAHAAAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[NorthCarolina]

170. Hillary has a sad?

Too bad.

[TheSarcastinator]

173. BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

And so the Great Unraveling of the Anointed One begins. This will be fun to watch. How in hell does Hillary think she can stand up to Putin when she can't deal with a genial, senior-aged socialist???

[HooptieWagon]

182. She IS quite fond of war,....

...though it never seems to get the results she predicts. Please proceed, Madam Secretary.

[Still In Wisconsin]

184. Uh oh. She is not amused.

In fact, She is PISSED!

[LAS14]

187. Maybe this will be re-played. I saw it at 1 pm.

The crawl said it was "live," but I can't think she was actually interviewed twice??? Anyway, can someone explain how to see it again?