Congratulation Bernie, you gained a whole whopping 10 delegates (NET)

[itsrobert]

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at this rate, you should pass Hillary sometime around never.

[onehandle]

1. 2018. I called it months ago.

At this rate, he will win in 2018.

[Red Oak]

65. Congrats Hillary! You lost, again!

[Sheepshank]

86. Yeah, it's important to massage the narrative so your team feels like a winner in these Primaries

the reality is that Bernie can't make up this huge delegate deficit +9 net delegates at a time.

[Red Oak]

88. The math, the math, oh the math. May as well give up now.

Rest of nation doesn't even need to vote. Hillary won the Republican states, so she will win walking away.

Remember - "he may win one state". He will get crushed in Iowa. He'll never win a state like Oklahoma. No way he wins Michigan. Hillary will kill him in Wisconsin. It's over in January, it's over in March, now it's over in April.

Team weathervance must have a group that all they do is move goalposts.

If Hillary loses New York it is game over.

No way will the Democratic party have her as the nominee if she loses her "home" state.

[Still In Wisconsin]

90. Which home state?

New York, Arkansas, or Illinois?

[Sheepshank]

92. are you done with your inane whining?

Most of it didn't make much sense.

But you have to know that if you are going to post silly one liners on a public discussion board, you may get a response. There is even a chance you won't like the response. Grow up, you're sounding like Trump.

[Red Oak]

104. My discussion may be inane to you. I'm fine with that.

I haven't had any posts hidden in the last 90 days.

[Kelvin Mace]

2. Grapes a little sour?

[Warren Stupidity]

5. crow is yummy!

[hobbit709]

3. I knew it wouldn't be long before the sour gape comments would start.

[itsrobert]

8. Sour Grapes? Hillary is closer to being the nominee

No sour grapes here.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

4. Do you have a sad?

[Bobbie Jo]

83. heh

Variation on the theme?

Too funny...

[morningfog]

6. Suck those sour grapes. Savor the sour.

[tabasco]

7. Do you have nothing better to do?

Pathetic.

[bigwillq]

12. Congrats on 22,000 posts!

[tabasco]

21. Holy cow! Thanks.

This will be 22,001!

[itsrobert]

14. I'm celebrating that Hillary is another step closer to the nomination.

Celebration Time!

[tabasco]

38. No, you're just being juvenile.

I've been a Democrat for about 50 years now, and I really don't think it's time to celebrate when the leading candidate loses yet another state and has shown tremendous weakness as a candidate.

I don't know who are the biggest assholes, the Hillary or death disciples, or the Sanders or death disciples, but they're all assholes.

[radical noodle]

60. Did you think Obama was a weak candidate in 2008?

I doubt it. Hillary actually had more popular votes than he did, and a larger percentage of the vote.

[tabasco]

75. Interesting.

Do you have a link/cite that shows a comparison (percentage of the vote) between the two campaigns at this point. Thanks!

[SFnomad]

82. radical noodle is correct

In the end, Clinton won the popular vote but lost the delegate count. She also was never more than 200 pledged delegates behind Obama ... I'm not sure she was ever more than 150. She also won 5 of the last 8 primaries.

It's hard to do timeline apples to apples comparisons because the order of the states were vastly different between 2008 and 2016.

You can see more here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2008

[tabasco]

85. Not according to RCP

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

[SFnomad]

94. If you already had an answer, why did you bother to ask for links?

And your RCP link's top line doesn't include Michigan ... if you look at the line that DOES include Michigan, it matches with the information I provided. And being that Obama removed himself from Michigan's primary, you can't not include them in the popular vote totals.

[tabasco]

95. Because I went and found one after the fact. Is that a problem?

LOL @ counting a contest in which Obama was not on the ballot, because the DNC said the primary was illegitimate.

Obama won more total votes than Clinton in the contests where they both appeared on the ballot.

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/clinton-and-the-popular-vote/

[SFnomad]

96. Not a problem, I just now know not to do your work for you any more

As to Michigan being "illegitimate", so was Florida, but Obama kept his name on in that state.

Popular vote is popular vote ... and by that metric, Clinton won. You can't not count a state that someone voluntarily removed themselves from and still call it a popular vote.

[tabasco]

98. Both Obama and Clinton were on the ballot in Florida.

So, in the traditional notion of fairness, I would include those votes in the totals, as did the analysts at RCP and elsewhere.

Clinton (and some supporters) feel the need to claim the greatest total of popular votes in 2008, including Michigan, so I suppose their notions of fairness and intellectual honesty are different than mine.

[SFnomad]

99. You're right, some people understand that "popular vote"

means all the votes and others want to tweak that definition to something that really isn't popular vote ... to fit their agenda.

[tabasco]

100. LOL.

Whatever, nomad.

[tabasco]

84. This information contradicts your claim about the popular vote.

2008 Primary Popular Vote Total Obama 17,535,458 48.1% Clinton 17,493,836 48.0% Obama +41,622

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html

However, compared to this point in the 2008 primary, Clinton does hold a larger lead over Sanders than Obama had over Clinton.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/14/why-hillary-clintons-delegate-lead-over-bernie-sanders-is-bigger-than-it-looks/

[shadowandblossom]

63. Death disciples...

Thanks I needed that...

[toshiba783]

73. What kind of logic is this?

Hillary's a weak candidate because she isn't winning "enough" - therefore people should vote for the candidate who is LOSING to the "weak" candidate?

[tabasco]

74. Please show me in my post where I urged anyone to vote for any candidate.

Either you fail at reading comprehension or you are a liar.

Logic doesn't come into play until some facts are established.

[LonePirate]

76. I share the sentiment you expressed in your last paragraph.

The highly partisan supporters of both candidates are generally unpleasant people in my eyes. Their unforgiving and unwillingness to cooperate will be the reasons we lose in November, if we do indeed lose.

[Sheepshank]

87. There is anther thread explaining that Bernie actually fell behind

in percentage of Delegate votes needed to cinch the nomination.

There are now even fewer delegates available (to include in the math) since WI's Primary is done. Bernie got a net gain of only 9 delegates. Bernie has an even greater need to get higher percentage numbers of Delegates, and amazingly enough Hillary needs fewer.

[zigby]

9. Ooof this is not a good look.

I should hope you'd be pleased that our candidates are generating enthusiasm, unlike the brakeless clown wagon torpedoing towards the cliffs...

[beam me up scottie]

10. Awww, here's some music for you:

[morningfog]

11. By the way. Your math is likely as shitty as your disposition.

[HooptieWagon]

24. Yep. NYT has net gain of 16 delegates.

That could increase, as many of the unreported precincts are in heavy Sanders territory.

[morningfog]

28. Right, with 14 pending.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

13. This makes me feel warm, safe, and loved. Do it again!

[morningfog]

18. Plenty will follow suit. And repeat Saturday for Wyoming.

[HooptieWagon]

15. Awwww, you has sadz....

7 in a row now...your frown is going to become permanent.

[Barack_America]

16. 6 delegates?

[morningfog]

19. They're just pulling it out of their ass.

[SMC22307]

17. ...

[timmymoff]

20. with 36% in

Bernie has 44 delgates, Clinton 28 for a difference of currently 16.. your math sucks as bad as her honesty ratings

[revbones]

22. Might want to re-verify that number tomorrow... rofl

[reformist2]

23. So gracious in defeat. Do you think you're making us want to help Hillary, should she win??

[DangerousRhythm]

31. Yeah, for real.

The original post is a great reminder to me of why I barely ever visit this primaries forum.

[RiverLover]

25. Cons are ugly.

eom

[Dragonfli]

57. Cons are ugly because instead of talking about why we should vote for the Conservative

whom they support.

They spend their time with half truths, twisted logic, character assassination (usually of the Rovian swift-boat variety) and sometimes just plain making shit up to tell us why we should not vote for the liberal with the much better platform whom we support while showing nothing but hatred in their sneering faces and words.

It makes them ugly on the inside and spiteful in their voices and actions.

Exterior ugliness can hold within a beautiful person and often does, internal ugliness is truly and irrevocably ugly and repulsive unlike someone that is perhaps not a model but decent and kind.


as an aside, I still love your avatar and it's presence usually means the water is healthy. It looks really good on you

[senz]

67. Well said. And true.

[RiverLover]

79. I meant ugly on the inside. How else could I mean? This is an ugly post. I can't see the poster.

I think I told you about the dragonfly sighting over a waterway is a sign that its healthy, remember? IM at JPR?....I like your name.

[senz]

64. +100

[NightWatcher]

26. He's won 7 of the last 8, but they're not as impressive as winning the Deep Red South.

Hillary's going to win the nomination on the votes of the Deep Red States that will NEVER go for her in the General. That's a winning strategy -not!

[itsrobert]

30. Awesome

I bet you make great Salt Water Taffy.

[panader0]

37. You soooo smart

[Iliyah]

78. Seems like the Electoral College info is non-extistent with some of our

fellow Americans.

[mythology]

42. Massachusetts, Illinois, Ohio, Iowa, Nevada, and Arizona

But if you're going to talk about red states not mattering, goodbye Oklahoma, Idaho, Alaska, Kansas, Utah and Nebraska.

But hey, let's tell people in particular states that they don't matter. Seems like a great strategy. You may recall states like North Carolina and Indiana voted Democratic in 2008 even though they were considered red states.

[KMOD]

27. It really is funny.

He can have his last hooray in Wyoming, and then Democratic voters will be voting. Bummer for him.

[morningfog]

32. Democrats have been voting for him across the country.

And Bernie is in it through the last vote. Don't rush it.

[KMOD]

41. I'm in no rush.

But more Democrats are supporting Hillary over Bernie. All the polls show that.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

33. It will be funny when he sets New York Berning with love and hope for a better future.

That will be the day Clintonistas really suck on them sour grapes.

[KMOD]

43. I really don't want to laugh out loud but,

[grossproffit]

35. Right, like Ohio, Illinois, Missouri, Florida. Are those too in the deep south?

New York, Pennsylvania & New Jersey will soon become the deep south, too.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

39. WTF are you talking about?

[KMOD]

46. hahahahahaha

They crack me up. They really do.

[itsrobert]

72. Don't forget South California

You can't make this stuff up.

[ScreamingMeemie]

59. To be called "not a Democrat" because I voted for Democratic ideals coming from a

Democratic nominee is fun. Thank you so much. That was nice after 45 years on this earth... 20 of them spent actively campaigning for Democrats...

[KingFlorez]

29. It's better than nothing I suppose

ROFL

[morningfog]

34. It is better than the OP says. They don't do math well.

[DCBob]

36. This win is actually a loss for Bernie.

He needed a blowout win.. not just a win.

[MillennialDem]

40. The Gap will widen.

[DCBob]

44. Unless it widens to about 70-30 its insignificant.

[itsrobert]

45. They been told that already

They want to believe.

[morningfog]

47. No he did not. A blow out would be good, but this is a good win.

As long as he maintains, he is viable until June 7. The only thing he needs is to avoid blow out losses.

[DCBob]

55. He is liable to get blownout in NY, PA & MD.

[morningfog]

61. Depending on the numbers, that could end it.

I think he can arguable maintain a sense of viability of he can make it to June 7 needing 56% of the vote. If it turned on whether he could take California, he had at least an argument to stay in.

[DCBob]

62. Yes. I would agree with that considering the huge number of delegates in CA.

[frylock]

48. Awwwwwhhhh. Somebody haz a sad.

There, there.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

49. LOL

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[Gomez163]

50. Don Pardo tell Bernie what he's won!!!!!!!!

[applegrove]

52. I don't think you are helping Hillary's cause when you dump on the opposition

like that.

[JackRiddler]

53. SIXTEEN, so far... go ahead and hate, but get the numbers straight!

[smiley]

56. As of this moment...

Bernie gained 44 delegates. Hillary gained 28.

44-28=16.

I've never been good at math so please correct me if I'm wrong.

Congrats Bernie and all his supporters! Kicking this OP to highlight the immaturity.

[Logical]

66. Another sarcastic and rude comment from a Hillary fan!

[senz]

70. They're wonderfully consistent.

[jillan]

68. Um - it's up to 36 at this moment.

[riderinthestorm]

69. Bookmarking for tomorrow

[Armstead]

71. I know the taste of sour grapes. I have eaten them. I hope you are enjoying yours

[TransitJohn]

80. ...

[SidDithers]

81. Actually, looks like it's going to be a 10 delegate pick-up...

Green Papers has delegate allocation for Wisconsin at 48-38.

Sid

[itsrobert]

91. Nice

Didnt get the 18 net needed.

[Yavin4]

97. Add in the 4 Super Delegates from Wisc., and BS' net pick up is 6

YUUUUUGGGGEEE

[Lucinda]

103. You beat me to it!

[Cobalt Violet]

89. chipping away!

Chip, chip, chip

[Alfresco]

93. LOL!

[Jester Messiah]

101. Wow, that leak was dead on, huh?

Bring on the sliming!

Honestly, how do you people live with yourselves?

[jmg257]

102. Hillary should still be proud - she came in 2nd!

[Number23]

105. The crowing over a 13% win when he needed a massive blow out is absolutely hysterical

And that whopping 10 delegate advantage? Icing on the cake!

[mhatrw]

106. mighty green!

[itsrobert]

107. Looks like Scott Walker's last election

The Democrat area (heaviest population area) went for Hillary, the republican areas (Dairy cow country) went for Bernie.

[mhatrw]

108. LOL. He won 71 of 72 counties and she won just one county by just 4 points. nt