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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:51 PM Apr 2016

A party platform is just words on a paper if you can't trust the candidate.


People still refuse to understand that the same old same old strategies aren't good enough anymore.

The let's appease them with a party platform is NOT enough!
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Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
1. Agreed.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:53 PM
Apr 2016

You have to look at the candidate's record of consistency and who they serve. (or self-serve).

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. And a Party platform ranted about without a Congress to help you is just as worthless.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:54 PM
Apr 2016

People seem to forget what form of government we have. Power for change rests with Congress, not the Executive.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
10. I see none of that happening now. Republicans will staunchily vote Republican, even against their
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:09 PM
Apr 2016

best interest. So no dice there.

Democrats are voting to keep their Reps and Senators in their seats. So no changes there, either.

We've done the "vote the bums out" in 2010. How did that work out for us in the House, governorships and State legislatures?

Be careful what you wish for. Republicans are eager to jump right in, as they've proven time and again.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
12. Remind me when President Obama went to the people and said "they won't pass the agenda ...
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:33 PM
Apr 2016

... on which I ran and you need to vote them out" then named names.






I'm sure he did that, but all I can recall him saying was "I got this" and "make me do it."

Joob

(1,065 posts)
4. Change you don't have to believe in, because it's happening as we speak
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 12:55 PM
Apr 2016

An actual movement for change, you better believe it.

 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
6. If only we had a Democratic candidate who doesn't lie, manipulate, obfuscate, and denigrate.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:00 PM
Apr 2016

Not this guy:

questionseverything

(9,631 posts)
7. i look at the candidate's history to decide what i think they will do
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:00 PM
Apr 2016

hc supported the devastating crime bill so i conclude she will continue locking up people for minor offenses...ruining those lives while bankrupting the rest of us to pay for their detention

hc supported the devastating welfare reform bill so i conclude she will continue to decimate the safety net we have left

hc voted for the patriot act so i conclude she will continue to undercut the 4th amendment and the right to privacy

hc voted for the iraq war, supported regime change around the world so i conclude she will continue with endless war

i could go on for quite a while but, the point is , there are huge differences in what i see bernie doing compared to hc

 

Autumn Colors

(2,379 posts)
9. I know
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:06 PM
Apr 2016

I just laugh and roll my eyes when people say/write about how Bernie has pushed Hillary to the left.

Nonsense! All that's happened is that he's pushed HER CAMPAIGN RHETORIC to the left.

Empty words.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
11. What they are really saying is "We think you are so fucking stupid you will believe anything."
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 01:11 PM
Apr 2016

The disdain they have for the working class is palpable.

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