WaPo: Evidence Suggests Hillary's Email Monitored By Asian Govt

[berni_mccoy]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/04/04/was-an-asian-government-reading-hillary-clintons-emails-in-february-2009/

Was an Asian government reading Hillary Clinton’s emails in February 2009?

By Stewart Baker April 4 at 6:22 AM

I continue to be fascinated by the very early chapters of the Hillary Clinton homebrew email saga. For one simple reason: the clintonemail.com server apparently didn’t have the digital certificate needed to encrypt communications until late March 2009 — more than two months after the server was up and running, and after Secretary Clinton’s swearing-in on January 22.

Two questions are raised by this timing: First, why didn’t the server have encryption from the start? And second, why did it get encryption in March, at a time when Clinton should have been extraordinarily busy getting up to speed at State, not messing with computer security protocols?

The simplest answer to the first question is that the lack of a certificate was just a mistake. But what about the second? What inspired the Secretary to get an encryption certificate in March when her team hadn’t bothered to get one in January or February?

The likely answer to that question is pretty troubling. There now seems to be a very real probability that Hillary Clinton rushed to install an encryption certificate in March 2009 because the U.S. intelligence community caught another country reading Clinton’s unencrypted messages during her February 16-21, 2009, trip to China, Indonesia, Japan, and S. Korea.

[revbones]

1. Interesting. If that is the case

and she rushed to get the certificate while still not notifying people she was running an off-books email server then it's obvious she was knowingly and blatantly breaking the law.

[grasswire]

2. ok....how does this mesh with...

....the presumption that the same server was being used by Bill for foundation business prior to Hillary using it for State business?

[grasswire]

3. can you give us a link for that, Berni?

Thanks.

[SwampG8r]

7. Look at the ops name

And reconsider your statement.
The op is berni mcoy its easy to co fuse but grasswire meant berni not bernie

[berni_mccoy]

8. Sorry, updated.

[FlatBaroque]

4. And Pagliano's managers at State IT had no idea about the existence of the server.

I am puzzled at why Hillary Clinton is not awaiting a bail hearing right now.

[dchill]

16. Because it's not who you know...

It's what you know about them.

[reformist2]

6. At the very least, this was a case of gross negligence on the part of the State Department.

I have to admit, at first I ignored this story. I was kind of like-minded with Bernie when he said, "who cares about her damned e-mails!"

But as time goes by, it just seems so bizarre - so STUPID - to have allowed the communications of the Secretary of State of the US to be conducted on a private server with questionable, and perhaps non-existent, anti-hacker security protections.

What the HELL were they thinking???? Was this really all about Hillary's obsessive need for secrecy???

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

9. I'm with you... incompetence or malice is the question?

The Clintons are known for being the least transparent.

[jmg257]

11. "Gross negligence" - when everything she did she did on purpose, knowingly.

And Despite being warned.

Gross negligence is starting to seem a bit kind.

[leveymg]

15. You mean as defined in 18 USC Sec 793(f)?

[jmg257]

20. No - I mean as defined here:

in full awareness or consciousness; deliberately.
"when a journalist knowingly misleads the readers"

[nadinbrzezinski]

13. I read most of the emails

and in particular 4 caught my eye... they were in the earliest release trove, and SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLASSIFIED, which they later were. When I read them, hubby did as well. We both were quite incredulous that we had just downloaded what should not have been released for 20 to 25 years. That is when I started paying very close attention.

[NWCorona]

22. Yup

Those were snatched back real quick but it was to late.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. I know

my history training said Warning WILL ROBINSON, Warning.

Alas, due to what hubby used to do, we had to sit on them. At this point there is enough in media I could quite possibly start to cover the issue. Right now, for real, working on a time line of this mess.

[NWCorona]

24. And when I read that Sid one

It read like a NSA report because it actually was lol

[nadinbrzezinski]

25. Oh wait, I was told that was not the case today

by one ignorant poster.

[amborin]

10. very plausible

[reformist2]

14. And here's the thing: Hillary's loyalists may not care about this, but independent voters sure will!

[leveymg]

12. At the tail end of 2013 they found a couple Asia bugs on the server.

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There was probably Chinese intercepts and some others the whole time going back to 2009. Maybe that was intentional. The only question is who was playing whom?

[grasswire]

26. yeah, we know that prior to the installation of encryption...

....Hillary was warned that her communications had been compromised on her Asia trip.

[dchill]

17. K&R.

[Skink]

18. The indictment fairy is here

And I was looking forward to the debate.

[MattP]

19. Opinion page garbage

[Jitter65]

21. So if the "US Intelligence community caught another country reading Clinton's unencrypted messages"

why didn't they intervene then??? Surely if this really happened they told the President and the FBI and NSA?

[IdaBriggs]

27. Logically, they might have done a fast upgrade to the ".gov" system --

And sent the "be careful" warning out to everyone, which would have gotten the encryption stuff going on the "private" server.

Not many people pay attention to email addresses - they look at the names/aliases. It's just how our brain processes information. Or the low level people might not have mentioned it because they assumed their bosses already knew about it.

New regime, lots of work trying to get everyone up to speed, lots of chaos, everyone busy, and some Asian government hacked the system...get cracking, folks!

Plausible? Who knows?

[TheDormouse]

28. K&R

[Warren DeMontague]

29. Wait, i thought encryption was a bad thing?

She keeps saying it is.

[VulgarPoet]

30. Something something "Manhattan Project against encryption" something somethin

"won't someone please think of the children" something something something "$hypocritical_statement XOR $lie".

Modus operandi.