Clinton: "I feel sorry sometimes to the young people who believe [Sanders]"

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

So condescending. Who does she think she is fooling?

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Tin ear. Thankfully the young people.

Hell, most Americans, don't watch mtp

[Betty Karlson]

7. Tone-deaf arrogance. Pride goes before the fall.

(Except in Washington, where pride goes IN the Fall.)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

13. She is a skunk.

But without the stripe.

The more people see and hear her, the less they like her.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. She really smacked Bernie there.

3 Pinocchios for Bernie.

[Logical]

3. Still waiting for your "little Birdie" post! LOL. nt

[JRLeft]

19. She bought and paid for by the fossil fuels industry. Have heard of her superpac?

[Ken Burch]

41. Except that he has never lied about her.

Donations from people in the industry is exactly the same as donations from the industry. There is no difference.

[redstateblues]

69. So Bernie does too. A bit holier than though don't you think?

[JDPriestly]

57. Here is Green Peace's research:

Number of oil, gas and coal industry lobbyists that have made direct contributions to Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential campaign: 58

58 registered oil, coal and gas lobbyists have personally given $138,400 to the Clinton campaign.
Of those 58, 11 are bundlers.
11 lobbyists have bundled $1,327,210 in contributions to the Clinton campaign.
43 lobbyists have contributed the maximum allowed ($2,700).

This includes:

Lobbyists who have reported lobbying for the oil and gas industry – both in-house company lobbyists and hired lobbyists from “K-Street firms.”

This does not include:

Industry executives who are not registered as lobbyists.
Other employees of the oil and gas industry.
Board members.
Corporate PAC contributions.
Contributions by major investors.
Donations to Super PACS or non-profit groups.
Contributions made by trade associations to Super PACs.

As of March 21, Clinton has taken more from lobbyists in general than any other candidate besides Jeb Bush — a total of $919,477.

Total amount bundled from oil and gas lobbyists: $1,327,210

http://www.greenpeace.org/usa/campaign-updates/hillary-clintons-connection-oil-gas-industry/

[CoffeeCat]

63. You post the truth

and the facts you posted are irrefutable.

Hillary Clinton, on the other hand will never refute the facts.

She is a proven liar. It is well documented that she lies with a smile on her face (Bosnian sniper fire). There is a reason that a majority in this country find her dishonest, poll after poll. She lies.

She's become totally unhinged. A Greenpeace activist initially asked Hillary about fossil-fuel contributions. But she screamed about Sander's supporters lying about her. It was Greenpeace, dipshit.

Now she's doubled down with the lies. 42 oil and gas lobbyists are maxed out on Hillary contributions. Plus she's AGAIN disparaging Bernie supporters.

I think her impending FBI interrogation is taking its toll. She's become a whirling dervish of ourrageous lies, wild-eyed screaming and middle-school taunts.

She's totally running on adrenaline and fear.

[Marrah_G]

4. Way to alienate peoples vote you might need in the general

The young people, who you just insinuated were stupid, will more then likely give you the actual or figurative finger come November if you are the nominee. This is why she is the wrong choice to win in November.

[Sheepshank]

8. Hearing any that all you don't like, is a call for alienation.

For those who work so hard to be so thin skinned, they will always find a reason to be offended.

[JPnoodleman]

21. I don't vote for people who don't want my vote. n/t

[Sheepshank]

5. She is clearly telling them to start doing research

Unfortunately, Believing everything they have been spoon fed has included too many lies.

I actually think she did the right thing here. Arguing about one lie doesn't clear up all the others. When these younger voters actually do their own research, they will find out. No point in trying to replace one set of propoganda with another...they can find out for themselves.

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

11. I've done my research and it determined Hillary has lied/misspoke yet again, but...

thanks for insinuating I'm an idiot.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

15. It is what hillarians do.

[Sheepshank]

24. Nope, no insinuation was made. But you go ahead and try to make yourself a martyr Nt

[Fumesucker]

23. The M$M is the one doing the "spoon feeding" in America and it's not the young eating it

It's precisely because the young are avoiding the M$M's spoon feeding of crap to the public that they do not support Hillary by a wide margin.

[Hydra]

36. *laughs*

The more research people do, the less they support Team Hill. That is, unless you support Bush Era policies. Then I suppose it's great to have a Dem willing to fight for those?

[Kittycat]

53. We know how to use the Internet, and don't listen to the bullcrap

Fed to the masses on TV. But you know, I don't even watch this crap. It's like Foxnews for Hillary/ThirdWay voters. Did they tell you what you wanted to hear?

[karynnj]

54. I did research - and the "original" meeting in Copenhagen did NOT lead to the

meetings by Kerry with the Chinese climate change people or to the Paris agreement. It is very easy to find articles that call Copenhagen a failure. I can also find links of Kerry being told that it was unlikely that they could have any diplomatic success on climate change. Apparently, the Chinese did not respond to HRC "hunting them down" or telling them what to do.

[merrily]

6. Another attempt at getting the votes of supporters of Sanders that is sure to be effective.

[HughLefty1]

70. It's further showing this entire primary process was just a dog and pony show to the DNC elites

[renate]

9. I just asked on another thread whether she really did say that

Unbelievable. Who is advising her?

[FlatBaroque]

22. It's not the advisors

It is the candidate. She is a horrid executive. Which is expected when your ego and your sponsors are all that you are trying to satisfy.

[reformist2]

10. She knows she's lost the youth vote, so she decided to put them down. Classic sour grapes.

[99Forever]

12. Those silly dumb whippersnappers...

... believing that a person running for POTUS will actually work hard to better their life and not just enrich themselves and their corrupt cronies.


Hey Hillary, this is for you------->

[jillan]

14. That's the way! Now young voters will happily vote for her! Such a smart candidate.

[Hiraeth]

16. fuck.her.pity.

[TheDormouse]

17. Um, she promoted FRACKING as Sec of State--doesn't mention that

and she was in favor of Keystone XL until it became politically expedient as a candidate to come out against it.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

18. And get off my lawn! Those a gold plated leaves

of grass from Goldman!

[FlatBaroque]

20. She has already LOST. From here on out

all she is going to do is lash out at everyone who is not with Her. The final exit of this despicable person from political life will be a welcome relief for America and the world.

[EndElectoral]

25. The grown up...God, the condescension

[BernieforPres2016]

26. Right Hillary, young people are too stupid to do their own research

They have to rely on the Washington Post and the New York Times to explain it to them.

No wonder she is getting crushed by voters who are 30 years old and below.

[Hydra]

38. She forgot about the Internets

Or rather, the way I heard that was, "You should listen to the people who are lying on my behalf. That's how research works."

...Did she just steal a page from the climate deniers?

[NorthCarolina]

27. Watching #IFeelSorry, #IDidMyResearch,

#IDoMyResearch and a few others on Twitter now. Interesting.

[SamKnause]

28. She is so out of touch.

She thinks the generation who grew up with social media

does not know how to do their own research.

They are extremely informed.

They know how to do their own research.

That is why they do not support Hillary.

[YOHABLO]

29. So the gold standard is the NYT and WP. Two corporately owned news papers.

So what about bundling by fossil fuel lobbyist? So is she skirting around that? She claims she's done all this diplomacy, however she still is taking money from the fossil fuel industry, "covertly'' you might say. Is this Hillary being a crafty politician, or does she really care about her grandchild's future?

[timlot]

30. I feel sorry for them too Hillary...

Free healthcare and tuition? Shiiittt what broke young person wouldn't want that.

[Cryptoad]

31. The word "clueless" come to mind.

Seems that most of them are spoiled Rich kids rebelling against their Republican parents. If we hadn't been so foolish and hard headed in 68, we may have had progressive running for Pres before now.

[azmom]

34. Yeah, you keep thinking that. Clueless does come to

mind, but it isn't the young people.

[Hydra]

42. You want a progressive running for President?

I thought that was Unicorns and rainbows and magic wands? Oh, wait, there's a guy with a Bird running right now. He's a progressive, why not him?

[Cryptoad]

47. no thats the 4th way Neo Progressives

[Hydra]

51. FDR Dem is 4th way Neo?

No, no...I'm 4th way. Pure socialism. You're doing a good job of boosting my advocacy, btw- if you can't tolerate regulated capitalism, more people start telling me: "Well, if they won't fix it, what's your idea?"

"Glad you asked!"

[senz]

43. But when we suggest Hill fans are uninformed, y'all go into high dudgeon.

[Jefferson23]

61. lol n/t

[azmom]

32. Young people are doing the research and

are turning away from Hillary. They are not buying into her deception. It doesn't matter how cleverly she words things; they know when they are being lied to, and they will not be voting for her.

Doesn't matter how many stars and DJ's she hires.

#ifeelsorry is trending now.

[Smarmie Doofus]

33. To answer your question: she thinks she's fooling....

....the low-info voter (race) .... and the one-issue voter (feminism) that she CAN fool, and CONTINUES to fool all the time.

The sad aspect is: unlike everything else about which which she is *WRONG*, she is likely to be successful here.

But that says more about the target demographics than I think the target demographics will be inclined to admit.

[Jefferson23]

35. Sanders response: Lobby positions vs workers within an industry..let the people decide.

Additionally: Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting
Yesterday at 5:18am ·

Jim Naureckas' piece on NPR's failure to factcheck Hillary Clinton's claim that Bernie Sanders is "lying" about her ties to fossil fuel lobbyists was picked up by CommonDreams.org:

Overby’s job, as he interprets it, is just to confirm that Clinton was indeed accurate in saying she accepts money from people who work for fossil-fuel companies.... If there’s an “implication that dirty energy has got her on a string,” Overby observes, “campaign finance data suggest it wouldn’t be much of a string.”

But what about “lobbyists working for the oil, gas and coal industry”—isn’t that what Sanders is supposed to be lying about, to the point of making Hillary Clinton sick? To give him credit, Overby is good enough to tell us what he isn’t telling us: "The industry total here doesn’t include lobbyists with fossil-fuel clients...."

Well—why not include lobbyists with fossil-fuel clients, since that is what the Sanders campaign, like other critics, was explicitly talking about?

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/04/01/did-sanders-lie-about-clintons-oil-money-npr-factchecker-cant-be-bothered-check

[BernieforPres2016]

56. The WaPo sinks that low with its "fact check"

And all Jake Tapper can do is point and say "but they said" as if he's not a journalist, that he is incapable of blowing away that bullshit himself?

[Jefferson23]

58. Tapper is not interested..too many msm bobbleheads are similar. n/t

[elana i am]

37. yo clinton...it's called google

and younger people use it more than older people. just saying...

[Jefferson23]

39. I'm going to feel sorry for a lot of people if you win the primary, Hillary Clinton...millions

of them.

[senz]

40. She gets dirty and personal.

Just what we need in a president!

[Hydra]

44. She's just being herself this week n/t

[tralala]

45. Only some of the time?

I wonder how she feels the rest of the time?

[GeorgiaPeanuts]

48. "Why won't these peasants stop interrupting my coronation!!"

Thank god Bernie entered and cast Coronatus Interruptus!

[TheFarseer]

46. I did my research

And concluded Hillary is not on my side. I feel sorry for the hopeless people that vote for her thinking this is the best we can do. No use trying for someone who gives a rat's ass about middle class folks.

[Autumn]

49. I don't feel a bit sorry for anyone who believes anything she says and supports her

they will come to see her for what she really is.

[snowy owl]

50. Spoken by an older stuck-in-the-status-quo candidate. Glad B isn't that candidate.

Really. That is a typical of older people. Change is always good. And young people see the damage the status quo has brought us. I hope these young people stay with the cause because big change is needed. Do you all want to work for the Koch Brothers?

How many times do I recall my mother saying "things can't keep going up, snowy owl..." when discussing housing prices in Seattle. OMG! She regretted those words before she died. But that's old thinking for you.

[karynnj]

52. Hillary distorts the meetings in Copenhagen with India and China

They did NOT lead to the Paris Agreement. In fact, John Kerry, when talking to Obama about the job of Secretary of State was said to have said he wanted climate change to be a signature issue -- just as woman's issues were for HRC. He was told that the administration held out little hope for any diplomatic break through on climate change.

Note that at one debate, HRC spoke of hunting down the Chinese. In another she spoke of TELLING the Chinese what they had to do. Kerry, on the other hand, spoke of how on his first trip to China with Obama's permission, he spoke to Chinese people involved on the issue he long knew from his own role in earlier climate change summits - especially the Bali conference. He spoke of listening to them and making a case that the US and China could do something together on this. The Chinese delegation on this was even invited to some talks at Kerry's Boston house.

Ban Ki Moon actually spoke of how some of the ideas from the Bali Conference, which Kerry was very helpful - enough that the Bush delegation actually thanked him at a SFRC meeting on the conference, were the basis of the approach used in Paris. This was the idea that different countries all set goals that can be different given the circumstances.

I have no doubt that both HRC and Bernie believe in climate change and that they will work to move forward in fighting it. However, the Copenhagen conference was a failure - and a major disappointment as the hope expressed in Bali was that with a supportive American President - and both McCain and Obama - were willing to work to stop climate change - the world could move forward. There are MANY people who deserve credit for there being a Paris Agreement, but the SoS who deserves that credit is John Kerry. Kerry worked on this issue throughout his entire career and did FAR FAR more as Secretary of State than Clinton did.

[kristopher]

55. +1

Thank you.

[MisterP]

59. on the telly it's easy to set an agenda, to dismiss anyone bringing up scandals as just some Pajamas

Media plant--TV is brief, immediate, undocumentary

[kristopher]

60. GreenPeace has provided the Most Reliable Independent Analysis of all available

Independent Analysis of Environmental Issues is most of their Mission.

Corporate Media's mission is to make money for their shareholders and electing Clinton will help them continue to make money.

[Hoyt]

62. Apparently, every generation needs to go through their own George McGovern landslide loss.

[Bjornsdotter]

65. I am flattered that at 55

....she considers me a young person.

[lmbradford]

66. Im 45

Does she feel sorry for me too? Wow, pathetic woman.

[AzDar]

67. She's a horrible candidate... HORRIBLE.

[mainer]

68. But she doesn't feel sorry for us older folks who believe Sanders?

There are a lot of us.

[intheflow]

71. I feel sorry for the Boomers who've become bitter and cynical.

I straddle Gen X and Boomers, and I think it's so sad how so many in my cohort have given up on their dreams.

[amborin]

72. Wow! She insults so many, many, many millions of voters