2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumABC Tracking Poll: Obama 49 Rmoney 48
Obama has edge in enthusiasm.
"President Obama and Mitt Romney head into the final debate still deadlocked among likely voters nationally: 49 percent side with the Democratic president, 48 percent with the Republican challenger, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.
...Obama still has strong rejoinders. He has campaign high 11-point edge over Romney when it comes to handling taxes, a 12-point lead on Medicare and a 13-point advantage on womens issues. The president has a seven-point edge when it comes to understanding the economic problems people are having, and a nine-point advantage on honesty. He is still widely viewed as doing more to help the middle class than the wealthy, while voters anticipate Romney would tip the balance the other way.
The poll also shows Obama as the perceived winner of second debate but by a far slimmer margin than Romneys thumping in round one. Another tilt toward the president is that unlike in 2010 as many voters now say the economy is getting better as say its still deteriorating.
The see-sawing battle for voters now has Obama with the edge on the enthusiasm front: 64 percent of Obamas backers say they are very enthusiastic about his candidacy, higher than the 58 percent of Romneys who are that engaged behind his run. Still, Obamas popularity trails 2008 levels: At this time four years ago, 63 percent of likely voters held favorable impressions of then-senator Obama; its 52 percent now.
A persistent gender gap underlies the topline numbers, and is now as large as its been in Post-ABC national polling. Female voters break 56 to 42 percent for the president; men go 54 to 42 percent for Romney. White voters side with Romney by a 15-point margin (56 to 41 percent), while non-whites break heavily for the president, 78 to 19 percent. Among African Americans, the margin is overwhelming: 94 to 2 percent."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2012/10/22/post-abc-tracking-poll-obama-49-percent-romney-48-percent/?wpisrc=al_comboNP_p..
MassedPole
(242 posts)personal taste.
VirginiaTarheel
(823 posts)White voters side with Romney by a 15-point margin (56 to 41 percent), while non-whites break heavily for the president, 78 to 19 percent. Among African Americans, the margin is overwhelming: 94 to 2 percent."
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)In order to be reelected the president has to win eighty percent of the non white vote and forty percent of the white vote. Of course as one goes down the other must go up or vice versa. Actually, the Obama campaign thinks it can win with thirty eight percent of the white vote.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)Oct 13 RV Obama 50, Romney 43
Sep 29 RV Obama 49, Romney 44
Sep 9 RV Obama 50, Romney 44
jezebel
(1,772 posts)ProSense
(116,464 posts)MSMITH33156
(879 posts)it won't necessarily show up in the likely voter screens. They drag people to the polls, and then they tamp down that LV margin, and Romney is basically done. Almost no one (sans Gallup) shows him competitive in Registered Voters.
I also wonder if this is also accounting for some of the divergence in national polls versus state polls. You poll someone in Ohio, who knows their vote counts, and they are probably a lot more likely to vote, versus someone in California, who knows their vote doesn't matter. If the Reps are more motivated by Obama hate, they are probably more inclined to vote regardless of the value of their vote.
reflection
(6,286 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I have yet to meet one person of color who likes Robme. Thank God.
VirginiaTarheel
(823 posts)Also, on who won last debate, Obama by 49-28 and 16 thinking a tie and the rest no opinion.
self identification as to party
Dem 34
Repub 29
Independent 33
other 3
don't know 1
Azathoth
(4,607 posts)Outside of Gallup and TIPP, we've been drowning in robopolling, internet polling, same-sample polling, and all kinds of other gimmicky bullshit when it comes to tracking polls.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)dennis4868
(9,774 posts)Did this poll say 52-46 for Romney in swing states? Hope that's not right!!!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)That's why we have individual state polls.
Azathoth
(4,607 posts)It's a national poll, which means the sample size from just the swing states is relatively small, which means the confidence interval is probably huge. Moreover, a significant portion of that already-small sample likely comes from larger swing states like Florida and Virginia, where Romney is slightly ahead.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)racism is still alive and well in the u.s.a.
glad that the women's vote is still going overwhelmingly for the President.
I'm not worried about the men's vote being as high, because more women
than men vote anyway so we outnumber romney there.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Which is about the same % Kerry and Dukakis lost with. The national Republicans are about to be drowned by a demographic tidal wave. National Republicans will be like California Republicans; reduced to winning elections by finding niche "party less" candidates like Arnold.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Much better for propaganda purposes than IBD/TIPP
I can remember watching it every day in 00 and 04 and hoping it would turn toward us but , alas, it never did.