According to PolitiFact: Clinton is the biggest 'Truth-Teller' of the 2016 Race

[Henhouse]

http://www.truthdig.com/eartotheground/item/is_hillary_clinton_the_biggest_truth-teller_of_this_race_20160330

Is Hillary Clinton the Biggest ‘Truth-Teller’ of the 2016 Race?

Posted on Mar 30, 2016


Jill Abramson reported in The Guardian on Monday that PolitiFact, a Pulitzer prize-winning fact-checking organization, judged Hillary Clinton to have “the best truth-telling record of any of the 2016 presidential candidates.”

PolitiFact judged 43 of Clinton’s claims, nearly one quarter of all of her claims that the organization investigated, to be “true.” That compares with 12 of Bernie Sanders’ claims, or 15 percent of those investigated.

Fifty-five percent of claims by Sanders that the organization investigated were either “true,” “mostly true” or “half-true,” compared with 72 percent by Clinton. These numbers mean little on their own, as they are limited by the number of claims by each candidate that the organization decided to devote time and resources to investigating.

Of those investigated, PolitiFact judged 3 percent of Republican Donald Trump’s claims to be true, and 6 percent of Ted Cruz’s.

—Posted by Alexander Reed Kelly.

[Number23]

1. 'This may shock you: Hillary Clinton is fundamentally honest'

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/28/hillary-clinton-honest-transparency-jill-abramson

Seems to be catching on.

[rhett o rick]

18. Bullshit. In 2002 she lied to the Senate. She mimicked the George Bush lies like

she was asked by the Republicons. She said:

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members"

"It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security."

Not only were these lies, they were Republicon lies. Her friends got wealthier from profits from the war.

[Red Oak]

22. Yes, it would shock me

[Red Oak]

24. It would depend on what the definition of "is" is.

[w4rma]

2. She's "honest" like a lawyer is "honest". (nt)

[Skwmom]

5. It depends on what the meaning of the word honest is. n/t

[jfern]

3. Politifact claimed Bernie lied when he said he tends to poll better

in the general election. Politifact was the liars. We need a Politifact fact checker.

[Skwmom]

4. She constantly lies. I lost count of the lies she told about Bernie. n/t

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[LexVegas]

6. Not hard when dealing with a man of such low integrity as Sanders.nt

[Hissyspit]

12. Hunh?

[Hydra]

20. Missive from Planet Hillary

It's a little hard to see things happening on Earth from there

[bjo59]

28. How does it help to print something that is so obviously false to the majority of people

in this country, including Republicans? I just don't get the point of making a statement that is complete hogwash. Maybe you are being sarcastic and I'm too much of a literalist?

[itsrobert]

7. Bernie "Three Pinocchios" Sanders

Say it ain't so.

[jcgoldie]

8. Nice

This sure doesn't fit the normal narrative on this board now does it?

[baldguy]

10. It's anti-Clinton because it's the same narrative as the RW propaganda machine.

[BlueMTexpat]

16. Ding, ding, ding!

We have a winner!

[noretreatnosurrender]

9. Is PolitiFact

doing the Gallup polls too?

[UtahLib]

11. K&R. nt

[Cha]

13. Good.. I'm glad they got that right. Thank you, Henhouse

[Recursion]

14. Perversely, it's her honesty about policy that makes her a worse candidate in the general

I think she's nowhere near as good at saying what people want to hear as Sanders is (and I find the "weathervane" attack on her very Rovian in that sense). But, this is a cycle where telling uncomfortable truths won't win, so we need the demagogue. Go Sanders...

[HumanityExperiment]

15. LOL, HRC is shill... these are the facts...

HRC is republican light and liberals / progressives know this... so her pushing fracking as SoS goes against those liberal / progressive ideals

She's is bought and paid for fossil fuel shill and this election cycle and her recent outburst just further validates that fact

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/hillary-clinton-fracking-shale-state-department-chevron

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2016/march/pavillion-fracking-water-032916.html

[BlueMTexpat]

17. Not at all and

buh-bye!

[fun n serious]

26. The fossil fuel " bought and paid for" you say is a lie

I'll give you a few minutes to delete before I alert

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/4/2/1509392/-Rachel-Maddow-Show-Analyzes-Bernie-s-Claim-That-HILLARY-Is-In-The-Pocket-Of-Big-Oil-It-s-FALSE

[HumanityExperiment]

30. Facts...

Please 'alert' I have the facts so the more visibility you give focus to the facts the better...

https://theintercept.com/2016/03/09/hillary-clinton-wants-to-regulate-fracking-but-still-accepts-a-lot-of-fracking-money/

[SunSeeker]

19. K & R

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

21. She's not trustworthy because her "truths" constantly change or evolve

Whether she's lying or telling the truth is often irrelevant. Over time, she's honest on both sides of issues. Like, she honestly believed TPP was "the gold standard" of trade policies, and now she honestly believes it's a bad policy.

No lies necessary when you play both sides constantly.

Then there are the lies you can't prove, but you know she's full of shit. Like, she's immune to WS money and, did she just admit she made a quid pro quo with Bush for her Iraq war vote????

[TheDormouse]

23. and Hillary is the only candidate who landed under sniper fire in Bosnia

and the check is in the mail

[MattSh]

25. That's easy to believe if your world view is this...

[840high]

27. ....

[felix_numinous]

29. Because we need someone official to tell us who is honest

no one who is has to work so hard to convince us. We can see it for ourselves.