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Akoto

(4,266 posts)
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:11 PM Oct 2012

Pissed, Need to Vent

Something happened, I won't go into too much detail. Just need to vent.

I am disabled, chronic pain, incurable. Spend most of my time in bed. In order to keep my mind busy and less on pain, I read and I play games on my laptop or a borrowed iPad.

One of the games I play is an online game, text-based. It's nice to have the interaction. Today, one of the lines of discussion (there are chat 'channels' within the game) got on politics. I knew I should've stayed out when a lot of Romney supporters cropped up, but I related my situation and how it made me nervous about Romney.

Long story short, what had initially been relatively civil discourse went personal. I was told that, because I was managing to type on a game, I could work. Further, I was told that I was worsening the economic situation for the country.

What am I supposed to do, lay in bed and stare at the ceiling, thinking of nothing but my pain? Am I to suffer more than is necessary in return for benefits?

I should add that getting disability or SSI is not something you can just fraudulently waltz in on. I had to be rejected twice by paper pushers (fairly standard, I came to find out) before I went before a judge two years later. That was the wait time. I had the help of a lawyer and the backing of professors from a world class university medical system. There was a government vocational expert there, and her job is to say whether there is ANY job of any kind for you in the economy. I was told there was not.

Suffice to say, I tuned out of that chat channel and will just play the game. People are plenty nice otherwise, and the vast majority were not in on that discussion.

I know I shouldn't have taken it personally and let it get me upset, but I suffer constantly. I have no life. I would gladly give the SSI away if it meant no more pain. These kinds of people are fucked up and incapable of empathy. They just want to blame the easiest targets, even if they know little about them.

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Pissed, Need to Vent (Original Post) Akoto Oct 2012 OP
Sorry this happen to you Akoto, skeewee08 Oct 2012 #1
Hope you feel better, now jehop61 Oct 2012 #2
a very gentle hug JustAnotherGen Oct 2012 #3
Sorry those scum suckers attacked you, Akoto. I usually don't wish ill on others because it's bad catbyte Oct 2012 #4
Compassion is not noteworthily a Republican virtue. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #5
Evidently, if my hands can put together a sandwich, I should be out working sheet metal. :) n/t Akoto Oct 2012 #14
I'm sorry they were so cruel abelenkpe Oct 2012 #6
the conservatives i've talked to about this are just not deep thinkers. maxsolomon Oct 2012 #7
If they were in the same situation as you, they would feel the same, BUT Lex Oct 2012 #8
well, why weren't those chatters Dyedinthewoolliberal Oct 2012 #9
Sadly, one must beware online discussions with these guys. Take care. freshwest Oct 2012 #10
F@ckwads they are RegieRocker Oct 2012 #11
Lie to them Firebirds01 Oct 2012 #12
It may make you feel better to know that the right wing EC Oct 2012 #13
I hear you... Rider3 Oct 2012 #15
Well it's better to be you with your pain than them with their stupidity and hate lunatica Oct 2012 #16
No problem.... daleanime Oct 2012 #17
Were you playing a MUD? Hyper_Eye Oct 2012 #18
Hi! In fact, I was. Akoto Oct 2012 #21
I am sorry Okoto Democratopia Oct 2012 #19
That is the problem most pele do not have a concept what chronic pain is until it happens to them. still_one Oct 2012 #20
Ask those scum sucking mother fuckers if they have a HANDOUT of an FHA loan for their home... LaydeeBug Oct 2012 #22
Something is so wrong with this society and those people in general The empressof all Oct 2012 #23
I am so sorry and feel that this is one dividend from the hate radio Tumbulu Oct 2012 #24
The Nazi Party got their followers to hate the disabled so this is typical rightwing thinking... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #25
I'm going to pm you. LeftofObama Oct 2012 #26
Belated thanks to all for the kind posts/messages. I feel better about it now. n/t Akoto Oct 2012 #27

jehop61

(1,735 posts)
2. Hope you feel better, now
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:16 PM
Oct 2012

It continues to amaze me how people who consider themselves Christian can be so hateful!

JustAnotherGen

(31,783 posts)
3. a very gentle hug
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:17 PM
Oct 2012

I have a chronic pain disease as well - I consider myself blessed that I'm not YET incapacitated. These are people that have never struggled to hold a toothbrush in a day of their life. They have no idea about the realities of this world . . . at this time.

But remember - what goes around comes back around.

catbyte

(34,341 posts)
4. Sorry those scum suckers attacked you, Akoto. I usually don't wish ill on others because it's bad
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:18 PM
Oct 2012

karma, but I DO wish misfortune on those insensitive ass clowns. Please don't let it get to you and they will get theirs eventually--nobody stays young and healthy forever.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
5. Compassion is not noteworthily a Republican virtue.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:19 PM
Oct 2012

Just as you might avoid anyone who would hurt you physically, why not avoid things that you know will pain you mentally? Personally, I see little point in trying to cure the wilfully blind, and my efforts to do so only succeed in pissing me off when they fail.

And you don't need to justify your disability to us on this board or anyone else (even though I know that wasn't the point of that 6th paragraph).

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
7. the conservatives i've talked to about this are just not deep thinkers.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:20 PM
Oct 2012

they exist in a bubble where they don't see or interact with disabled people. if given specific examples, they will admit that, yes, that person is not able to work - even chronic alcoholics. not to mention that there aren't enough jobs for the able-bodied.

i tell them that we're a rich country, and we can afford to take care of the elderly, the ill, and the disabled. they have been brainwashed for decades now to think that "entitlements" and the lazy poor are the cause of the deficit. not defense spending, of course. we need that because we're scared of the boogey man.

Lex

(34,108 posts)
8. If they were in the same situation as you, they would feel the same, BUT
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:20 PM
Oct 2012

they are defective because they cannot feel empathy for another human being. They only care if it happens to them.




 

Firebirds01

(576 posts)
12. Lie to them
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:22 PM
Oct 2012

They lie to us.

Next time, tell them that you manage/started a major financial investment firm and make a solid 6 figure yearly income. They will immediately kowtow to you because they believe money and financial power is directly related to hard work AND intelligence. Tell them that they know nothing of the economy and the country works. You win, they look stupid, and your blood pressure doesnt go up.


Cheers!

EC

(12,287 posts)
13. It may make you feel better to know that the right wing
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:29 PM
Oct 2012

hires corporations to troll game sites and forums to do just what was done to you. They are trolls, forget about it.

Rider3

(919 posts)
15. I hear you...
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:33 PM
Oct 2012

And, unless and until you go through something like this, you cannot understand just how disabling it can be. I know that it hurts to hear these cruel people. It seems like they take glee in seeing others down and out. That's just sick. They are ignorant and have no clue what you're having to deal with. I hope you feel better quickly.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
16. Well it's better to be you with your pain than them with their stupidity and hate
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:33 PM
Oct 2012

You're far better than they are, even incapacitated and unable to get out of bed you have them beat all to hell in the decency department.

Hyper_Eye

(675 posts)
18. Were you playing a MUD?
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:39 PM
Oct 2012

There's a surprising number of fundies in the MUD community. They like to spout their bullshit on InterMUD Chat or I3. I have a MUD I've been running for 12 years... nobody plays it anymore but the intermud communication fills my buffer and sometimes I read it for a good laugh. Every now and then I can get pushed to the point of participating but not for long as it is not a productive use of time.

If you don't know what a MUD is I am a geek and I apologize for bringing you down to my level if even for a minute.

Akoto

(4,266 posts)
21. Hi! In fact, I was.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:43 PM
Oct 2012

I am 27 and have been playing them since I was a kid. Mostly MUXes and MUSHes, but sometimes MUDs. You are not alone in your geekdom.

The particular game was GemStone IV. Its prior incarnation, GS3, was my first MUD way back. I still play because I love the game, even if there is a rabid fundie section of the playerbase.

 

Democratopia

(552 posts)
19. I am sorry Okoto
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:39 PM
Oct 2012

I am sorry to hear what you have been through. I am actually in a similar position. I have an inoperable condition and in a lot of pain. The drugs make me drowsy and sometimes a bit confused, but I am lucky in that I can now do a little bit of work from home. It is hurtful when you are attacked like that. Yesterday, several people on DU accused me of being a troll and not a Democrat simply because I made a thread and said Romney was surging in the Rand poll, as it seemed to me yesterday. Anyone who reads my posts can see I hate everything Republicans represent and I am proud of what Obama has done. That was very upsetting, but it shows you will always find bullies, but they are in a small minority.

Well, these people that attacked you are very immature. Republicans can't have it both ways - they think they can blame Obama for the unemployment, then in the next breath they blame the people who haven't got jobs, even the sick and disabled. They are just nasty people who always have to find somebody to attack, and you shouldn't have to justify yourself to them. Their attitude is pulling this county back. They would find something to attack you on, whether you were disabled or had a job or not. Like many Republicans they can't tolerate anyone who has a different opinion. It is hard not to take it personally when you are attacked, but as you say there plenty of good folk out there too. Focus on the people who treat you with respect.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
20. That is the problem most pele do not have a concept what chronic pain is until it happens to them.
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:40 PM
Oct 2012

As you said empathy is not in their vocabulary, or for that matter, "Christian" values, which they usually hang on their shoulders for all to see

I think probably the best example of people doing things against their own instance was Moore's film sickco, when a right winger needed to shut down his anti Michael Moore site because he was about to lose everything because his wife needed surgery, and he did not have insurance.

Moore paid for it anonymously, and when he found out who his benefactor was, he still went against those "terrible people" who don't have insurance and want to mooch off the system.

The whole, whole thing is sick and twisted


I wish you all the best, and hope something is found to help get you through with less pain

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
22. Ask those scum sucking mother fuckers if they have a HANDOUT of an FHA loan for their home...
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:43 PM
Oct 2012

Tell them to stop flushing their SOCIALIST toilet too, since our collective tax dollars fund those things, and...

ask those scum sucking mother fuckers...

RIGHT TO THEIR FUCKING FACE

What handouts has MITT ROMNEY taken. Since we collectively know about the FDIC bailout he took back in the day, did he take AMNESTY too? Then you tell those scum sucking mother fuckers that they can bitch at you WHEN AND ONLY WHEN your ssi amounts to an equal amount, with interest, that these entitled mother fuckers have been taking in the name of capitalism each and every fucking day. Privatize profit. Socialize losses.

FUCK THEM

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
23. Something is so wrong with this society and those people in general
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 01:59 PM
Oct 2012

When someones value is based solely upon what they do for a living and what they produce or don't produce we've tilted away from a humanity that will thrive and grow. We are not cogs in fricken wheels helping to move along a fricken business machine. Work is highly over rated IMO.

As an aside...we are retired for the most part but my SO is looking for part time work. He/we have owned several successful businesses and he is applying for a part time job with a non profit. The application for a low paying minimal wage job was five pages and required answering 6 pages of essay questions. In addition the interview rounds will consist of three separate face to face meetings. Now seriously......I understand companies want to hire he best possible people but is this REALLY necessary?

Now I realize that it's easy for me to be critical...I no longer walk in worker shoes. I am happy though that we still live in a society that is still capable of recognizing that not all have to carry that burden through their lives. That sometimes the human body breaks down and we need to lift it up. Those people who don't recognize that are sad sorry excuses of humanity. FUCK EM! and not in the good way.

Tumbulu

(6,268 posts)
24. I am so sorry and feel that this is one dividend from the hate radio
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:15 PM
Oct 2012

spewed on the public airwaves for what 25 years now? An entire generation has been raised listening to this stuff and it has these sorts of consequences.

Enjoy your games!!!!!! I am glad that you can come here and be with us!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
25. The Nazi Party got their followers to hate the disabled so this is typical rightwing thinking...
Mon Oct 22, 2012, 02:22 PM
Oct 2012

Here's the well known poster again...



Translation: 60000 RM
this is what this person suffering from hereditary defects costs the Community of Germans during his lifetime
Fellow Citizen, that is your money, too
Read '[A] New People'
The monthly magazines of the Office for Race Politics of the NSDAP


It's part of their "only the strong survive" mindset.

Funny how many times we see these Morans change their tune after an auto accident. Hell, I've seen these guys turn into helpless babies from a case of the flu.
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