2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWo! Who knew about Wisconsin???
Again, the Newshour on PBS has a story about Wisconsin's voter ID laws that are estimated to disenfranchise 300,000+ poor people and people of color. This is Wisconsin, not Mississippi!! And we know who's supporters will be most affected.
PeaceNikki
(27,985 posts)but was held up with a stay until this year. This will be our first large election with it in place. We had a supreme court primary in February which was the first. You can thank Scott Fucking Walker for that.
Gwhittey
(1,377 posts)So no need to worry about it.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)The panic within the Powers that be after Bernie wins again by double digits.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I've seen Sanders ahead by more than the MOE, but not yet double digits.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)Monitoring where the money is coming in at the betting sides. His odds quadrupled this week as the favorite.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)beedle
(1,235 posts)Bernie supporters are as anti-democracy as Hillary supporters.
SheenaR
(2,052 posts)But fortunately this is going to be a comfortable win for Sanders, which seemed highly improbable just a few weeks back.
Wisconsin has been severely damaged by piss poor leadership. They will respond in kind at the polls
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)She doesn't care about those disenfranchised voters in Arizona and Ma.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)I know that doesn't match your narrative, but hey whatever right?
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/hillary-clinton-early-voting-nationwide
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Sanders didn't show much interest until he started parachuting into South Carolina.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Electing leaders that can make real change is Wisconsin's first step in the right direction.
Then comes the end for Walker, Ryan et.al
But your version probably sounded cool when you thought of it
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)However, in Wisconsin you have Milwaukee, Madison, and Green Bay. In the rest of the state you have Alabama!
dana_b
(11,546 posts)How can the people involved in this sleep at night?
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)Pretty, isn't it?
pansypoo53219
(20,955 posts)Gothmog
(144,934 posts)Marc Elias, the chief counsel for the Clinton Victory Counsel program, is busy suing the GOP and fighting GOP vote suppression http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/16/voting-rights-lawsuits-_n_7594960.html
The attorney, Marc Elias, is involved in lawsuits challenging measures passed in Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin, arguing that laws cutting back early voting, restricting registration and requiring photo identification to vote, among other measures, disproportionately impact racial minorities.
Conservatives have argued such measures protect against voter fraud, and have called the lawsuits a political effort to energize Democratic voters. The financial involvement of the billionaire liberal philanthropist George Soros, who is supporting the suits, has only incensed them further.
There are high stakes to the lawsuits, as the Supreme Court displayed a certain skepticism about federal voting rights legislation when it struck down a key section of the landmark Voting Rights Act in 2013. That provision had required states and localities with a history of voting discrimination to first clear any changes to their voting laws with the federal government or in federal court. The VRA still bars voting procedures that discriminate against racial minorities, but the strength of that section hasnt been tested since the courts controversial decision two years ago.
So, while the politics of Elias cases have attracted most of the attention Clinton recently decried measures supported by Republican governors, like fellow presidential hopeful Scott Walker of Wisconsin there is an equivalent amount of intrigue on the legal side. Some of the provisions targeted in the lawsuits, like Wisconsins voter identification law, have already been challenged, while others, like Virginias photo ID law, havent yet seen the inside of a courtroom.
The GOP is very good at voter suppression and I am glad that Marc is fighting against the GOP. Unfortunately, the Wisconsin voer id law will be in effect for Tuesday primary.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)But some don't care about that. This is more fluff from the cheaters, I mean the Clinton's. Fighting for our rights while taking them away.
Gothmog
(144,934 posts)This lawsuit is really silly and any lawyer who files this in federal court has better be prepared to be sanctioned. Federal judges are not known for tolerating stupidity. Here are some facts that will guarantee that the lawyer filing this case will be sanctioned http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2016/03/04/bill-clinton-massachusetts-election-law/
After greeting voters and poll workers, Clinton posed with Mayor Marty Walsh and a man holding a Democratic ballot inside the Holy Name gymnasium in West Roxbury in a photograph first obtained by Boston magazine. Clinton later appeared outside a polling location in New Bedford with Mayor Jon Mitchell and used a megaphone to stump for his wife, Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton.
Though a representative for Sen. Bernie Sanders campaign told Boston he received a dozen complaints that Clintons speech blocked voters from reaching the polling place, Brian McNiff of Secretary Bill Galvins office said the polls were never inaccessible.
Massachusetts election law prohibits any person from distributing campaign material intended to influence the vote of a voter in the ongoing election within 150 of a polling location. In addition, no person shall solicit votes for or against, or otherwise promote or oppose, any person or political party or position on a ballot question, to be voted on at the current election, the law reads.
McNiff told the New Bedford Standard-Times via email Thursday there was no violation, despite Clinton and Mitchell standing, by the papers estimate, 85 feet from the polling place. The Secretary of State has already said its not looking into the matter any further. That office has made its decision, Mitchell told the Standard-Times.
Thank you for the laughs. You might consider reading up on the facts
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)I'm sorry it had to happen to Sanders supporters for you guys to start giving a shit.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)I sure do remember you tearing down people who expressed concerns about voter suppression in Arizona however.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)It had nothing to do with voting rights and everything to do with the fact that Sanders lost. Without fail, close contests that go in favor of Clinton are assaulted with fraud accusations, while ones that go for Sanders are absolutely fine.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)There have already been hearings into the voter suppression and widespread calls for a federal investigation and it is not just Bernie supporters who have been making those calls. You made it very clear that you don't give a shit about voter suppression if your candidate wins however.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Those who actually know anything about the issue know how idiotic the Clinton Vote Fraud claims were.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)voters in Nevada and Massachusetts?
Nope. Bernie people at DU have repeatedly proven themselves eager to embrace voter disenfranchisement if it helps Bernie.
They sure learned to love caucuses once they stopped losing them.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)I have never seen anyone say all MA and NV Clinton supporters should be disenfranchised. Now I know you will probably go out and find some random internet poster who says otherwise, but random internet posters don't mean jack shit. There are no widespread calls to disenfranchise MA and NV voters however.
You of course were very dismissive of the people who were disenfranchised in Arizona so instead of pointing the finger at Bernie supporters you might want to look at your own support for voter disenfranchisement.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Overturn the results of the Nevada caucuses:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511302237
Sanders voters to sue to award ALL Massachusetts delegates to Sanders:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280156902
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280153709
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280162469
So, no I absolutely have zero respect for people who fake concern for voting rights while supporting Mass disenfranchisement due to Clenis Interruptus.
Beneath contempt.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)You may not see anything wrong with voter suppression created by Clinton's. You guys think if it's not against the law, who cares. But it WAS against the law, and you guys still didn't care. Bullhorn Bill soliciting for his wife at polling places. You guys embrace this shit.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of Democratic voters over that.
The people behind those lawsuits are scumbags.
No one with a moral ounce in their body supported those mass disenfranchisement, election stealing lawsuits.
msongs
(67,361 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)there aren't enough pure funds available.
BainsBane
(53,016 posts)The court challenge to this law failed a year ago. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-election-idUSKBN0MJ1DZ20150323
Anyone who has been contacting WI voters on behalf of a campaign should also have known, since it is essential information in getting the vote out.
dflprincess
(28,072 posts)by strange coincidence a server goes down cutting election clerks off from accessing voter registration information and preventing some residents from getting the drivers' license or ID card.
http://www.startribune.com/server-failure-cuts-clerks-from-wisconsin-voter-system/374271841/
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)That's one tactic from the GOP to secure a "One Party System".
WI = voter suppression. Another form of voter suppression was in AZ.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)... but nobody is really safe against election fraud, especially in the wacky world of Scott Walker.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)people who are very likely to vote for Bernie. Just like Bernie cares about voters rights in every state. It's good to see someone anyone care about Bernie voters in Wisconsin.
PS I voted against the voter ID law when it was on the ballot in Minnesota and we defeated that stupid attempt to squash voters rights.