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Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:10 AM

new NY poll - Bernie 42%, Hillary 54% - Hillary's lead 1/4 of what it was 2 weeks ago

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ny/new_york_democratic_presidential_primary-4221.html

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Reply new NY poll - Bernie 42%, Hillary 54% - Hillary's lead 1/4 of what it was 2 weeks ago (Original post)
NWCorona Mar 2016 OP
Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #1
HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #2
Kalidurga Mar 2016 #29
HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #30
Kalidurga Mar 2016 #31
StevieM Mar 2016 #34
HumanityExperiment Mar 2016 #35
StevieM Mar 2016 #36
Trajan Mar 2016 #3
NWCorona Mar 2016 #5
NWCorona Mar 2016 #4
Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #16
NWCorona Mar 2016 #20
BklnDem75 Mar 2016 #6
NWCorona Mar 2016 #7
JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #18
NWCorona Mar 2016 #24
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #9
JonLeibowitz Mar 2016 #19
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #21
BklnDem75 Mar 2016 #23
Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #25
DCBob Mar 2016 #8
KingFlorez Mar 2016 #10
NWCorona Mar 2016 #11
DCBob Mar 2016 #15
NWCorona Mar 2016 #17
choie Mar 2016 #12
Gwhittey Mar 2016 #13
Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #26
hrmjustin Mar 2016 #14
NWCorona Mar 2016 #22
Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2016 #27
hrmjustin Mar 2016 #28
StevieM Mar 2016 #37
dchill Mar 2016 #32
hollowdweller Mar 2016 #33
GeorgiaPeanuts Mar 2016 #38
NWCorona Mar 2016 #39
Victor_c3 Mar 2016 #40
hrmjustin Mar 2016 #41

Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:18 AM

1. He's going to have to spend real $$$ here, though.

 

World capital of media billionaires that hate Sanders-ism to its core.

Murdoch, Zuckerman, Bloomberg, .... the whole damn zoo is headquartered here.

He's on the *ignore* list. ( They got that from DU? Who knows.)

Bernie's going to have to *buy* time. And lots of it.

IF they'll even sell it to him.

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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:20 AM

2. If Bernie wins WI by the margin I suspect...

 

If Bernie wins WI by the margins I suspect, he won't need to 'buy time', he'll be given tons of it....

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Response to HumanityExperiment (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:33 AM

29. LOL NOPE

I do agree with the premise that he should be given plenty of free time. But, that isn't how it's been playing out. Check out #Berniemademewhite, this happened after Bernie won some of the most diverse states in the country. So, no MSM and the DNC and corporatists aren't going to play fair and they aren't going to play this the way the game has been traditionally played, that winners get more airtime.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #29)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:39 AM

30. corp media...

 

Bernie's win in WI will just add more 'friction' that corp media can use for segments that allows them to create more 'friction' between Bernie and HRC... but either way, Bernie will get more air time, just not what exactly the kind he would want...

If Bernie wins NY then it will get so much more in favor of Bernie, since of course all things that 'matter' start and end with East Coast and especially the corp media hub of the US ...

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Response to HumanityExperiment (Reply #30)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:42 AM

31. That MSM will do it's best to shape perception is a given

how they twist the truth well I can't even hazard a guess what they will say about a Wisconsin win. Perhaps a variation of this
"How ever will Bernie recover from that devastating win in Wisconsin?"

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Response to HumanityExperiment (Reply #2)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:52 AM

34. Wisconsin is a primary state. Even if he wins it won't be by anywhere close to the margins we saw

in the western caucus states. Even those states would have been much closer if they had held primaries.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #34)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:00 PM

35. Ya... ok... sure...

 

One thing for sure, there's one candidate that's gaining momentum both in delegates and polling and one that's not

So you grab tightly and hold fast to that perception, 22 primaries left and 56% or better from those remaining allow Bernie to beat HRC

Do you think Bernie can and will do better than 56% in WI?... Hmmmm I do

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Response to HumanityExperiment (Reply #35)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:28 PM

36. I don't. Best case scenario for Bernie is 54 or 55 percent IMO. Obviously we will find out

on Tuesday.

I don't think Bernie will win New York, let alone with 56 percent of the vote. That goes for California too. And I think Hillary is favored in NJ and PA. Maryland should be a huge Clinton win.

He'll probably do better in Oregon, West Virginia and Kentucky.

We'll see.

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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:22 AM

3. We've got his back ... With money, at least ...

 

And with word of mouth support on social media, which can help blunt the media hegemony you refer to ...

Go New York! .. Go Bernie!

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Response to Trajan (Reply #3)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:25 AM

5. Yup

This is great news!

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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #1)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:24 AM

4. No doubt he's gonna have to work for it

But this poll is great news for Bernie. Especially with what's going on in Wisconsin.

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #4)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:45 AM

16. Interesting

since this was her state she should be winning by a landslide! This does not seem to be the case.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #16)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:50 AM

20. Hillary needs a big win in NY too!

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:25 AM

6. ADOPTED DAUGHTER THUMPS NATIVE SON

That's part of the headline of the poll you're citing.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/ny/ny03312016_N39pgrw.pdf

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Response to BklnDem75 (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:28 AM

7. I seen that but is it supposed to bother me?

Bernie has made huge gains in NY regardless of what's on the header.

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #7)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:49 AM

18. The "Thumping" part is referring to Dem-GOP matchups

The real headline is:

CLINTON, TRUMP HAVE BIG LEADS IN NEW YORK PRIMARIES,
QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY POLL FINDS;
ADOPTED DAUGHTER THUMPS NATIVE SON, EDGES KASICH


The post you are replying to is disingenuous.

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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #18)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:17 AM

24. Yup

It almost seems like most posts are with a few exceptions.

I think they fail to realize that they are bragging about the very things that are wrong with the system we have right now.

No poll should have a headline like that.

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Response to BklnDem75 (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:30 AM

9. A pro Hillary headline?

Shocking! Thanks for the heads up, and welcome to Ignore.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:50 AM

19. They're lying about the meaning of the headline, it is a reference to Trump. No surprise.

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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #19)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:52 AM

21. Thanks. I didn't even look at the link.

We all know by now that the polls in this election season are garbage. Bernie didn't "make up" 20 points in New York in 2 weeks. We'll see what happens on April 19.

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Response to BernieforPres2016 (Reply #9)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:11 AM

23. Nothing says open minded like ignoring everyone you disagree with

I'm sure I'm in good company regardless.

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Response to BklnDem75 (Reply #6)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:18 AM

25. you haven't noticed that headlines are usually different than the actual articles?

It's been that way for awhile, cause they know most people just skim headlines.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:29 AM

8. Comparing polls from different polling orgs doesn't make sense.

That Emerson one was likely an outlier. In all the other polls going back to last year she was incredibly steady at 55%. All that is happening now is that Bernie is picking up the undecideds.. which isnt going to be nearly good enough. Even if he gets them all he still loses by about 10 points. Bernie needs a big win to have any chance at all of winning this thing.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:31 AM

10. Exactly, that's one of the silliest things one can do with polling

Comparing different polls doesn't make sense because of methodology and such. It makes for dramatic titles, but it's not the right way to look at polling.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #8)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:34 AM

11. No doubt and you know that I respect your opinion

Even if we disagree at times.

That said I'll take this poll even if it's an outlier. I'll be honest 😀

We need to see some more polling to see if this holds.

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:41 AM

15. I think this current poll is more accurate than that Emerson poll.

My point is Hillary is steady at around 55% and will likely remain so.

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Response to DCBob (Reply #15)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:45 AM

17. I get your point

But I obviously want that to change. This poll does give a little credence to the theory that Hillary is worried about NY tho.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:35 AM

12. Beauty!!!

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:38 AM

13. Has Hillary ever gone up in polls?

 

Well Except with African Americans after the Media and Black members of congress lied about Sanders Civil Rights activity and then said all Sanders supporters where racists?

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Response to Gwhittey (Reply #13)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:21 AM

26. nope.

A few small bumps up sometimes but they don't last.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:39 AM

14. I am skeptical because Quinnipiac underestimates her support in primary polls.

 

But it might very well be right. Sienna Polling has a better history of polling races in NYS.

I think she will win from 10-20 percent so this might be right but I want to see Sienna.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 09:53 AM

22. I definitely have my issues with polls

And I'll admit that Bernie needs more numbers coming his way if this poll to be believed.

But as it stands right now. I'll take it.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #14)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:22 AM

27. from a 55 point lead a few months ago

Two weeks yet to go

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 10:30 AM

28. Well it was only natural that it got closer but Hillary will win.

 

The question is the margin. Sienna will be out with another poll soon and we shall see if it really is 12%

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Response to Viva_La_Revolution (Reply #27)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:30 PM

37. That poll was an outlier. A couple of recent polls had her up by twenty.

I still expect her to win by double digits.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:47 AM

32. I wouldn't know, but I'd bet there's some...

Dreadful whistling down by the graveyard.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 11:52 AM

33. The more Bernie is known the more he is liked

 


However I'm not sure he will become known everywhere in enough time to tip the balance.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:37 PM

38. So this is why Clinton Camp abandoned WI and are now focused on NY...

 

It also explains why Camp Weathervane out of nowhere began a blitz of right wing style negative attacks on Bernie. Same story every time, whenever Clinton Campaign sees numbers they don't like their answer are negative personal attacks

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Response to GeorgiaPeanuts (Reply #38)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:41 PM

39. Yup

There was talk of internal polling that made team Clinton worried about NY. This kinda helps that line of thinking.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:52 PM

40. I'm only seeing a narrow part of NY where I live, but I don't believe Hillary's support is that high

I live in the Hudson Valley region of NY - about an hour north of NYC - and In the last year I've only seen one Hillary bumper sticker while I see lots of Bernie stickers on a daily basis. Hell, I see more "Obama '08" stickers in a given day than I see of anyone else other than Bernie Sanders in a given day.

If Hillary has as much support as the polls claim she has in this state, the people sure aren't showing it around where I live. Are they embarrassed of their support for Hillary Clinton? I'm really curious to see what will happen in my state's primary. Nobody I talk to admits to liking Hillary Clinton. They either go for Sanders or Trump.

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Response to NWCorona (Original post)

Thu Mar 31, 2016, 12:54 PM

41. This poll was taken over Purim and Easter weekend.

 

not the best time to poll in NY. Just realized that.

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