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My Pet Goat

(413 posts)
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:40 PM Oct 2012

PPP Obama Regains Lead in Iowa O:49 R:48

A new Public Policy Polling survey in Iowa conducted on behalf of Health Care for America Now

Likely voters, +2 change from PPP poll a few days ago.

Leads 64 to 35 for folks who have already voted. PPP states it will be "very difficult" for Romney to erase this gap in two weeks.

Leads Women 53 to 44.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/10/obama-leads-by-1-in-iowa.html

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PPP Obama Regains Lead in Iowa O:49 R:48 (Original Post) My Pet Goat Oct 2012 OP
Why are they doing another Iowa poll only a few days after the last one? TroyD Oct 2012 #1
Who the hell knows. LisaL Oct 2012 #2
PPP conducted the poll for HCAN My Pet Goat Oct 2012 #4
It looks like Somebody paid them to do it. Pirate Smile Oct 2012 #7
They were hired by someone else... regnaD kciN Oct 2012 #9
PPP TroyD Oct 2012 #3
They want to make money Shivering Jemmy Oct 2012 #11
Good news! n/t courseofhistory Oct 2012 #5
Oh that's just ridiculous. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #6
Change of +2 could be noise.... My Pet Goat Oct 2012 #10
My guess is that Obama wins Iowa by 5-8 points. Drunken Irishman Oct 2012 #15
All the movement s within the MOE demwing Oct 2012 #14
It's basically no change from the last poll that had Romney up +1 WI_DEM Oct 2012 #16
The polls are all over the place. PM Martin Oct 2012 #8
What nonsense MSMITH33156 Oct 2012 #12
I really think Obama is banking enough votes in Iowa to win. We gotta keep it up. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #13
The results are different because the Party ID is different in this poll. It was plus 4 R in the Jennicut Oct 2012 #17

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
1. Why are they doing another Iowa poll only a few days after the last one?
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:41 PM
Oct 2012

Do you think they felt pressured to do another one after their last one conflicted with the other pollsters?

My Pet Goat

(413 posts)
4. PPP conducted the poll for HCAN
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:47 PM
Oct 2012

"A new Public Policy Polling survey in Iowa conducted on behalf of Health Care for America Now"

Sorry for the confusion, I updated the post.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
9. They were hired by someone else...
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:53 PM
Oct 2012

...so conducted a separate poll.

Keep in mind that PPP now runs their own tracker, as well as a separate non-tracker national poll for DKos/SEIU that gets released on Tuesday. I'm wondering how the next release of that poll compares to their tracker covering the same days -- I bet they'll give very different results.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
3. PPP
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:46 PM
Oct 2012
A new Public Policy Polling survey in Iowa conducted on behalf of Health Care for America Now


What's with PPP conducting all these polls for other organizations lately?
 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
6. Oh that's just ridiculous.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:48 PM
Oct 2012

I'm sorry. But these polls are all over the place. Candidates just don't gain and lose support as fast as these polls would have us believe.

My Pet Goat

(413 posts)
10. Change of +2 could be noise....
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:53 PM
Oct 2012

But it certainly means Obama is stable in this state.

I agree with others that PPP probably tends to understate Obama's strength in the state. Still, good for the narrative. Meet the Press was discussing the earlier Iowa PPP poll today where O was down one point.

PPP also went out of there way to note the lopsided nature of the early voter numbers.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
14. All the movement s within the MOE
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:54 PM
Oct 2012

it seems like bullshit (and maybe ALL polling IS bullshit), but it really is explained in the math.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
16. It's basically no change from the last poll that had Romney up +1
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:55 PM
Oct 2012

with moe Obama could have been leading.

PM Martin

(2,660 posts)
8. The polls are all over the place.
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:49 PM
Oct 2012

This problem seems to a unique only to America and third world nations.

MSMITH33156

(879 posts)
12. What nonsense
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 07:54 PM
Oct 2012

makes you feel that the poll early this week was a troll job to get conservatives pumped and liberals freaked.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
17. The results are different because the Party ID is different in this poll. It was plus 4 R in the
Sun Oct 21, 2012, 08:13 PM
Oct 2012

previous poll. In this one it is +7 D.
NBC/WSJ/Marist had it as D+2 but had Obama ahead by 8.
Internal polling done on IA per Charlie Cook has shown anywhere from Romney with a 1 point lead to Obama with a 7 point lead.
I would say based on early voting, Iowa will probably be close but tilt to Obama. Maybe a 3 point win?

PPP simply reached a different set of people with a more Dem lean this time. I don't think it was on purpose. That's what happens with robopolls. If you think robopolling is awful, consider that Gallup is not.

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