BREAKING NEWS: David Brock group hits Bernie Sanders with ethics complaints

[Cali_Democrat]

A group founded by Hillary Clinton ally David Brock filed three complaints with the Federal Election Commission Tuesday against the Bernie Sanders’ campaign and two allied outside groups.

One complaint from the American Democracy Legal Fund alleges Sanders’ campaign accepted more money from individual donors than allowed under federal law. Another accuses the campaign of failing to include proper disclosure on a Facebook ad it ran after the New Hampshire primary. The third claims a pro-Sanders super PAC has improperly using Sanders’ name, and also alleges illegal coordination.

The FEC has previously warned Sanders about excessive contributions. But with the FEC perpetually deadlocked, these kinds of complaints often go nowhere, and sometimes are used more to generate news coverage than actual enforcement action.

Read more:

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/david-brock-group-hits-bernie-sanders-ethics-complaints

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From last month:

Feds flag Bernie Sanders campaign contributions

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/02/26/bernie-sanders-campaign-contributions/80999298/

[Jefferson23]

1. lol

Clinton is afraid of those WS transcripts, that much is clear. Deflect away, Hillary.

[Baobab]

27. Attack opponents strengths

Sanders's is ethics. Hillary&Bill seem to have been indited multiple times for what appears to be a habit of ignoring the rules for all sorts of things.

[TexasTowelie]

73. When has Hillary Clinton been indicted?

Link please.

[Jefferson23]

75. Yes, their reputations are pathetic. n/t

[riversedge]

83. PFF!!

[bettyellen]

98. Why are you lying about Hillary being indicted? No integrity at all.

Fucking ridiculous.

[CorporatistNation]

36. Let's Change The Subject To The Clinton Foundation... Now There Is Some "Meat" There!

[Jitter65]

58. I think Bernie admitted a lot of it. Going to pay back money etc. nt

[Peace Patriot]

129. My rule of thumb for Bushwhacks applies to David Brock...

...and increasingly to the Clinton campaign as a whole. Here it is:

Whatever they say, the opposite is true; and whatever they accuse others of doing, they are doing or planning to do.

It was a pretty infallible guide to figuring out what was really going on with Bush, Cheney & Rumsfeld, et al.

Apply it in this case, and you will see what I mean. THEY are in such deep fraudulent doo-doo that they feel compelled to project it onto Sanders.

Try it out in the next few weeks. I was just thinking it through myself, for Brock, for Clinton, for Clinton endorsers, for Clinton supporters--various types of shite they've been peddling around lately. It works!

[DanTex]

2. Interesting. Not only does Sanders have a SuperPAC, but his campaign actually coordinates with it.

[RiverLover]

6. But it isn't true.

In line with everything about the HRC campaign.

[DanTex]

8. Obviously, Bernie fans will deny it, but I haven't seen much interest in facts from them.

[DanTex]

18. The complaint cites specific examples of coordination between his campaign and the

NNU SuperPAC.

[DanTex]

24. Wrong. It's a SuperPAC. Enjoy your stay.

[hrmjustin]

34. You just got here so how can you know he is always wrong?

[hrmjustin]

42. Oh the lurker excuse. Enjoy giving your opinion.

[hrmjustin]

45. .

[rock]

82. I vote for psychic

Which most of the BSers seem to have. By the way check out:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/bernie-sanders-super-pac-218478

[Crabby Abbey]

56. Nice way to show how inclusive this forum is.

Must be lonely hugging that H so hard.

[hrmjustin]

77. You seem nice.

[Bradical79]

67. Results of jury 2-5 leave it

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[hrmjustin]

74. Thank you and to the Jury.

[hrmjustin]

95. Yes and that is why I addressed you in that manner. You were disrespectful to a longtime

member.

[hrmjustin]

99. Did you come here to cause trouble with certain people?

looks that way.

[hrmjustin]

102. bye now

[hrmjustin]

104. doubt it.

[hrmjustin]

106. I have no power here. I have my own problems here.

[Sheepshank]

78. Well ain't that speshal, a flimsy, inane alert on a Hillary Supporter. Juror #5 had it right n/t

[riversedge]

85. Waste of jury's time

[saidsimplesimon]

68. Welcome to the fray EOL

I also lurked before joining, at least 2 years.

[SidDithers]

81. ...

Sid

[DanTex]

37. Always, huh? But we just met! LOL.

[beedle]

89. Who care when you 'met'

He's right, you're wrong.

[revbones]

91. Funny how that works huh.

Bet there won't be any follow-up to admit they were wrong either.

[RiverLover]

19. Facts are what we have. That's why we're progressives. Not enablers of Moneyed Interests

wrecking our country. Third Wayers have to lie to cover their anti-worker, conservative, profit-driven endgame.

[virtualobserver]

54. not only does David Brock sling bullshit....but DanTex instantly believes it.

[DanTex]

57. Specific examples of coordination with a SuperPAC.

And after the data stealing and the misappropriation of logos and the false claims of endorsements, it's not particularly difficult to believe.

[virtualobserver]

59. you can string all of the Brock droppings and spin together.....

and it will make a nice necklace.

[DanTex]

60. Another typical fact-free post from team BoB.

[virtualobserver]

64. when you actually present a fact, then I'll react to it

[DanTex]

65. Read the complaint.

And then think back to the data theft and false endorsements and impersonating union members, and it will all make sense.

[virtualobserver]

69. your entire post is nothing but spin.....and anyone can create a complaint.

Bernie has received a few thousand over the limit.....the highest was $5000...out of 6 million donations.....and he has been refunding the money.

Hillary just pockets the money toward the general election.

[DanTex]

70. My post is nothing but facts, unfortunately for you.

The coordination with the SuperPAC is consistent with the previous ethical breaches that I mentioned, including the data theft and the impersonation of union members.

[HumanityExperiment]

3. Oh, a game...

Another David Brock game, what's the 'prize' this time?

[astrophuss42]

5. Hopefully his return to conservatism

[QC]

20. He never left. n/t

[HumanityExperiment]

22. He never left it...

He's just a lighter shade of 'red', matches HRC's shade now too...

HRC and her supporters of the 'republican light' brigade matches on

[zazen]

4. The unethical behavior of the DNC is "baked in" so one can't file complaints.

Not that the MSM would cover ethics complaints against the DNC anyway.

Classic ratf**kery by Brock. Attack Sanders on his ethics and trustworthiness, which is his strongest suit, and distract from the FBI investigation into Clinton.

[Tep64]

7. LOL

Really???? And does Brock have ethics???

[beam me up scottie]

9. LOL! Brock and the Clinton campaign are accusing Bernie of ethics violations?

[Renew Deal]

10. I give a Brock credit for hustling

He makes an effort.

[CalvinballPro]

12. Sanders had a SuperPAC in Alaska whose office was in the same building as his campaign office.

And guess what else? The SuperPAC was set up by former Sanders campaign staff members, so the chances of illegal coordination with the campaign are very high.

[Wilms]

15. Is that right?

Reminding me of Hill's office at the DNC.

[Cali_Democrat]

21. Aren't canidates allowed to coordinate with the DNC?

Haven't both Bernie and Hillary raised money for the DNC?

They both use DNC voter data.

[Wilms]

62. OK. We can have a difference of opinion.

But let's not play dumb. We're Democrats.

[Wilms]

13. I thought the Sanders campaign would have been more careful.

But no. There are three "i's" that weren't dotted, and a "t" that wasn't crossed.

Go, Brock, go.

[Silver_Witch]

14. Oh this is rich!

How many of us do you think can easily give $2,700? At $27 average a donation. Not too damn many for sure. Yet other candidates get unlimited amounts from corporations. One of those people is coordinating this complaint terrified the average working American might get what they want.

And you Clinton supporters wonder why some of us cannot bare the thought of voting for her should she win the primary?

SHOW US THE SPECHES!!!

[shadowandblossom]

133. You know, it's not really a $27 dollar average.

That number would change all the time if it were a real average. But, it's always the same. It's not accurate, but a talking point. Which is not to say that Sander's campaign isn't getting mostly small donations. They probably are. But, the average isn't going to be $27 all the time, it would be changing day to day.

[Silver_Witch]

139. You are right...my average

is $35 every two weeks...so the average for me is not $27.

And you point was???

[shadowandblossom]

141. My point is that the average can't consistently be $27 over this span of time.

I'll go to the work and prove it tomorrow if you want, but if you just take a minute to think about it you can reason out that it isn't true by yourself.

[hollysmom]

17. ha ha ha hah David Brock and ethical - what a joke.

See that Bernie you have o go to people who can donate the whole amount at one time easier to keep track of, stop geting money from people who make multiple small donations -too hard
I had a friend 2 years ago that got flagged that way supporting a local guy, she bought some campaign material and it put her over the top for max donations. that is what happens when you deal with the not rich but whoa be to you for having people not rich support you! what kind of favor can you do for them = so what did that PAC did Hillary raise money where they charged 334 thousand dollars for dinner with her and George Clooney - good thing no limits on their maximum amount.

[Jefferson23]

86. Precisely. +1.

[berni_mccoy]

25. Another Brock-O'Keefe Attack from Hillary Fans.

[RiverLover]

26. On ethics & morality....

David Brock is a hypocrite who wants to use up Bernie's campaign cash on legal fees over total BS.

Everyone should be so ethical as Bernie Sanders.

David Brock needs to return to his original party. The one he left after the Clintons persuaded him they can get more republican crap done from within the Dem Party as Third Wayers.

Things like China as a NTR nation, NAFTA, Deregulating Wall Street, Privatized education, wars to profit the MIC, prisons to profit private corps, all talk no action on climate change, etc

[HughLefty1]

92. +1 There goes my $27 to help fight some frivolous BS lawsuit

Look, over there! It's really sad...

David 'Rove' Brock indeed....

[INdemo]

28. This is a Typical Republican Bull Shit move

A Karl Rove ,Dick Cheney tactic.The. Clinton campaign is trying to deflect election fraud allegations in Arizona and Nevada and draw attention away from a current law suit in Mass against Bill Clinton.
The Clinton campaign resembles the Bush campaign of 2004.
David Rove Brock is a Republican.Just remember that and notice this is just another example thst Clinton cannot run on issues.Bill and Hillary have reved up their attack strategy and sent a Repulican out to do it.
Still think Hillary is a progressive?
Not.....

[GreatGazoo]

29. Kitchen sink = desperate to stop Bernie

[dchill]

30. Where are the transcripts?

In the basement on the server?

[Cali_Democrat]

35. It's not illegal to not release a transcript from a private speech.

But it is illegal to take excessive campaign contributions.

[dchill]

44. That's why they'll be returned.

What's your candidate gonna do?

[morningfog]

52. It is illegal for a campaign to directly coordinate with a SuperPAC as HIllary does.

[shadowandblossom]

134. Sanders is coordinating with his superpac

according to the violations.

[livetohike]

46. This thread is about the Sanders campaign. Nobody gives a **** about the transcripts other than

Bernie supporters who were TOLD by their icon to be concerned about them.

[dchill]

88. Oh, yes. That's definitely the exact way it is!

Actually, as usual, the opposite is true. And you're the ones with the icon. We have a candidate.

[hrmjustin]

32. Good!

[2pooped2pop]

33. accuse them first

So when the cheating complaints come out against you, the meme can change to "both sides do it"
Its one of the techniques used by the republicans and morally compromised others.

[seabeyond]

40. The campaign of integrity, gonna show us how it is done. Nt

[beam me up scottie]

47. The misogynist who called Anita Hill "slutty" is going to show us how to be ethical?

The man who helped publicly humiliate and destroy a strong accomplished black woman who was a victim of sexual harrassment is alleging that Bernie is unethical?

The master of smears and gutter politics, Hillary's Rovian henchman?

Do tell.

[morningfog]

51. If you trust Brock, I feel sorry for you.

[seabeyond]

53. Super Pacs, FEC investigations, ya... right.

[Bluenorthwest]

55. Book Author Says He Lied in His Attacks on Anita Hill in Bid to Aid Justice Thomas-NY Times

The author of a best-selling book that attacked the credibility of Anita F. Hill has disavowed its premise, and now says that he lied in print to protect the reputation of Justice Clarence Thomas.

David Brock, the author of the book, ''The Real Anita Hill'' (Free Press, 1993), has also suggested, in a magazine article to be published this week, that Justice Thomas used an intermediary to provide Mr. Brock with damaging information about a woman who had come forward to provide support for Ms. Hill's accusations of harassment by Justice Thomas. Ms. Hill's accusations became the focus of Senate hearings into Justice Thomas's nomination to the Supreme Court in 1991.

Mr. Brock reported that he then used the information to force the woman to retract her statements about Justice Thomas.
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/06/27/us/book-author-says-he-lied-his-attacks-anita-hill-bid-aid-justice-thomas.html

He called Anita Hill 'a little bit nutty, a little bit slutty'.
Bernie campaign has been speaking the truth about Brock so he's lashing out:

"Twenty-five years ago it was Brock — a mud-slinging, right-wing extremist — who tried to destroy Anita Hill, a distinguished African-American law professor," the Sanders spokesman continued, referring to Brock in 2001 disavowing a book he had written attacking the woman who accused Clarence Thomas of sexual harassment.

"He later was forced to apologize for his lies about her. Today, he is lying about Sen. Sanders," Briggs said.

Briggs slammed Clinton for hiring "a mudslinger like David Brock," adding: "She should be ashamed of her association with Brock."
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/266671-sanders-aide-clinton-should-be-ashamed-of-david-brock

[saidsimplesimon]

79. Bluenw, thanks for the reminder

I don't recall either then Governor Bill Clinton or Mrs. Clinton expressing any concerns about the attacks on Anita Hill.

Briggs slammed Clinton for hiring "a mudslinger like David Brock," adding: "She should be ashamed of her association with Brock."

[seabeyond]

80. Sanders doesn't have a SuperPac, he hasn't been investigated by FEC?

[SwampG8r]

72. After what brock did to hill and hillary

The sight of anyone who has ever made a pretense of being a feminist is destroyed when they defend him.
My god have you no.sense of decency or shame?

[Warren DeMontague]

109. You mean Brock?

Oh, yeah, lotta integrity there, sea.

[seabeyond]

112. Intergrity... oh wait. Lets lecture me on brock/feminism. Run from that damn integrity,

I am being told. Look the other way. Bury our heads.

Campaign of integrity, lol. ah ha.

[Warren DeMontague]

118. I see a lot of words

Yet, not a whole lot of cohesive meaning.

[seabeyond]

119. You're so .... funny

[Warren DeMontague]

121. Funny 'ha ha', or funny weird?

Arrrr, Prob'lee a lil' of both, matey.

[Jarqui]

41. Anyone know how many pages Bernie's FEC report was in December?

over 100,000 pages - trying to detail every contributor over $200.

The complaint by David Brock's group is completely without any specific evidence:
http://americandemocracy.org/adlf-files-complaint-against-bernie-sanders-and-his-treasurer/

It's just piling on the FEC letters.

Anyone want to review all the complaints against Hillary with the FEC?

[morningfog]

49. HIllary and Brock HATE the little donors.

[morningfog]

48. The gall and irony here is amazing. Brock runs a SuperPAC which coordinates directly w/ Hillary.

They flagrantly violate the finance laws yet file a complaint. Fuck rat fucker Brock. He's a piece of shit.

[Punkingal]

50. The larger question here is why is the Clinton campaign so desperate?

[Bluenorthwest]

61. Obviously their internal polling is not looking good for them. First it was 'We shall not debate'

and that got shifted swiftly to 'debate is on' and ever since the weekend it has been a barrage of right wing attacks, even worse than after Hillary praised Reagan as an AIDS hero. They are nervous and they do not wear the tension well.

[Punkingal]

76. That's what I think, too.

[Jitter65]

66. The larger question is why is it ok for Bernie to sue...he was first to sue, remember...and not the

Clinton campaign when they find violations?

[cyberswede]

63. Of course David Brock would complain that Bernie has ethics, while he has none. nt

[whatchamacallit]

71. BREAKING SNOOZE

More desperate thrashing from "the winning team".

[Zen Democrat]

84. David Brock has cooked his own goose in this campaign.

Hillary has her "Lee Atwater" and he's gonna be just as respected as the original. Zero. Brock is finished after his hatchet work for Hill.

[islandmkl]

87. apparently the OP's spell-check is broken...

I had to skip two lines and put in periods to even get these three words in one post:

DAVID BROCK.


ETHICS.

[oasis]

90. EXPOSED.

[LexVegas]

96. Shady shit going on. nt

[reddread]

101. yep. corn this high should generate more media attention

and shade.

[GoneFishin]

107. How Karl Rove of him.

[Cali_Democrat]

108. Did Bernie's campaign violate the FEC contribution limits?

[TheBlackAdder]

110. Don't you have a false OP to tend to that smears a marriage?

[Cali_Democrat]

111. I'll take that as a "yes"

Notice how nobody in this thread could actually dispute the substance of the allegations?

But you go on with your bad self.

Go Birdie Sanders! He's so lovely....even the birds love him!

[TheBlackAdder]

113. Another "taker!" I'm actually a neutral, except that most of dysfunction comes from the HRC side.

[Cali_Democrat]

114. So what about the ethics complaint?

Did Bernie's Campaign violate FEC contribution limits?

Or would you rather not discuss the substance of the OP?

[TheBlackAdder]

122. It's just another shiny silver bauble to distract the cats from watching the squirrels outside.

.


Or, just another knot in the panties of life.


.

[Cali_Democrat]

124. So you can't answer a simple question. nt

[TheBlackAdder]

125. Yes, it's a bullshit OP that is like many the OP writer posts. In the end--means NOTHING!

[Cali_Democrat]

128. Still can't answer a simple question. nt

[TheBlackAdder]

136. Instead of hypothesizing, I wait for reality. This occurs in most campaigns and gets resolved.

.


Some people like to get their panties in a knot, looking for anything to complain about.

It's comical to watch the same people project these traits on the opposition, when they are the biggest offenders.


I'm sure there is some DSM-IV explanation for that!


.

[w4rma]

115. Good. Clinton is continuing to piss off/on the Democratic party's most active members. (nt)

[aidbo]

116. Are they complaining because he has ethics?

[jfern]

117. David Brock and ethics?

That's a fucking riot.

[Cha]

120. Good. Mahalo Cali

[Autumn]

123. David Brock and the word ethics do not even belong in the same sentence

[revbones]

126. BREAKING NEWS: David Brock is an admitted liar

Who attacked Anita Hill to give us Clarence Thomas and attacked the Clintons until he got nice checked from them.

I'm sure his complaints are completely full of merit - if merit now smells like manure.

[So Far From Heaven]

130. What massive hypocrisy!!

David Brock is an admitted political hack for the Clintons, and was when Chinagate and Templegate occurred in 1996 and 1997 which resulted in $700000 in fines being levied by the FEC against the participants and the DNC in 2002.

Nice try. Do a little research before posting something this slanted.

[jfern]

127. Next up: Hitler's corpse calls Bernie anti-semitic

[beam me up scottie]

131. !

[shadowandblossom]

132. about time.

I've been wanting this FEC stuff to start being picked up by the media already. Enough with the double standards and it sure took them long enough...

[blueintelligentsia]

135. Good to have the ole conservative David Brock on HRC's side....n/t

[Vinca]

137. I read something about the "excessive contributions" complaint and apparently one problem

is that Bernie has so many contributors that some have the same name. They have to go through those item by item to be sure they are different people. I think they did return a few contributions, but it was all a pretty minor problem that happens to most candidates with a large number of donors. This is little more than a feeble attempt to defame Bernie.

[Sunlei]

138. If one goes over the 2700 limit on primary donations, it rolls over to general election PUBLIC list.

Everyone is on a public list in their district. Saw it on my red Texas city, soon as Mittens was the Republicans choice for general election, $2,700 shows up next to most of my neighbors names. Some of the names get a negative sign showing refund/moving? of donation.

Of course PACs have different Legal rules, thanks to our SC lawmakers, unlimited donations can be hidden in PACS.

On top of that we have thousands of Republican Groups who are 'tax-free' pretending to be "Charities". They game the IRS laws to their advantage. Those groups shovel millions into RW, one of them brought Netanyahu to our Congress and paid millions for all Republicans trips to Israel.

[ibegurpard]

140. David Brock

Needs to hit his hairdresser with an ethics charge. Jesus...