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Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:20 PM

The FBI investigation, it now seems, is the chopper in her rear view mirror.

From the LA Times, March 27, 2016:

Federal prosecutors investigating the possible mishandling of classified materials on Hillary Clinton’s private email server have begun the process of setting up formal interviews with some of her longtime and closest aides, according to two people familiar with the probe, an indication that the inquiry is moving into its final phases.

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Prosecutors also are expected to seek an interview with Clinton herself, though the timing remains unclear.

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The interviews by FBI agents and prosecutors will play a significant role in helping them better understand whether Clinton or her aides knowingly or negligently discussed classified government secrets over a non-secure email system when she served as secretary of State.

The meetings also are an indication that much of the investigators' background work – recovering deleted emails, understanding how the server operated and determining whether it was breached – is nearing completion.

“The interviews are critical to understand the volume of information they have accumulated,” said James McJunkin, former head of the FBI's Washington field office. “They are likely nearing the end of the investigation and the agents need to interview these people to put the information in context. They will then spend time aligning these statements with other information, emails, classified documents, etc., to determine whether there is a prosecutable case."

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Lawyers for her closest aides – Huma Abedin, Jake Sullivan, Cheryl Mills and Philippe Renes – either did not respond to messages or declined to comment.

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In August, the FBI obtained the server and has since recovered most, if not all, of the deleted correspondence, said a person familiar with the investigation.

FBI agents have finished their review of the server and the correspondence turned over by Clinton to the State Department. They have interviewed a number of former aides so they could better understand how the system was used and why Clinton chose to use it, the person said.


From the WaPo, March 27, 2016

One hundred forty-seven FBI agents have been deployed to run down leads, according to a lawmaker briefed by FBI Director James B. Comey. The FBI has accelerated the investigation because officials want to avoid the possibility of announcing any action too close to the election.

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Early on June 17, 2011, Clinton grew impatient as she waited for “talking points” about a sensitive matter that had to be delivered via a secure line.

“They say they’ve had issues sending secure fax. They’re working on it,” Sullivan wrote his boss.

Clinton told him to take a shortcut.

“If they can’t, turn into nonpaper w no identifying heading and send nonsecure,” she said.


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Security remained a constant concern. On June 28, 2011, in response to reports that Gmail accounts of government workers had been targeted by “online adversaries,” a note went out over Clinton’s name urging department employees to “avoid conducting official Department business from your personal email accounts.”

But she herself ignored the warning and continued using her BlackBerry and the basement server.

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Clinton lawyer David Kendall later told the State Department that her “use of personal email was consistent with the practices of other Secretaries of State,” citing Powell in particular, according to a letter he wrote in August.

But Powell’s circumstances also differed from Clinton’s in notable ways.

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Powell conducted virtually all of his classified communications on paper or over a State Department computer installed on his desk that was reserved for classified information, according to interviews. Clinton never had such a desktop or a classified email account, according to the State Department.



So, as Secretary of State, she never had a classified email account, because 'it wasn't convenient' for her????


How can that type of judgment be allowed to stand, as she thrust incalculable risk on our national security, notwithstanding her repeated use of her position as Secretary of State to benefit the bottom line of the Clinton Foundation?


Under Hillary Clinton, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments had given millions to the Clinton Foundation. Photo: Scott Olson/Getty Images (Via IBTimes)


[font color= red][font size= 3]How can all of this be allowed to stand?[/font][/font]

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Reply The FBI investigation, it now seems, is the chopper in her rear view mirror. (Original post)
seafan Mar 2016 OP
Live Bait Mar 2016 #1
CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #8
840high Mar 2016 #17
Skwmom Mar 2016 #2
amborin Mar 2016 #3
AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #4
peacebird Mar 2016 #44
seafan Mar 2016 #5
CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #11
NWCorona Mar 2016 #16
840high Mar 2016 #18
bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #56
amborin Mar 2016 #21
Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #6
paulthompson Mar 2016 #13
1monster Mar 2016 #20
amborin Mar 2016 #22
Zira Mar 2016 #40
tk2kewl Mar 2016 #46
grasswire Mar 2016 #7
99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #15
amborin Mar 2016 #23
2banon Mar 2016 #26
Hydra Mar 2016 #9
CorporatistNation Mar 2016 #12
840high Mar 2016 #19
amborin Mar 2016 #24
2banon Mar 2016 #27
Aerows Mar 2016 #37
99th_Monkey Mar 2016 #10
Biaviians Mar 2016 #29
yodermon Mar 2016 #14
Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2016 #25
2banon Mar 2016 #28
Aerows Mar 2016 #35
Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #43
kgnu_fan Mar 2016 #30
PatrickforO Mar 2016 #31
highprincipleswork Mar 2016 #33
Aerows Mar 2016 #38
Zira Mar 2016 #41
questionseverything Mar 2016 #49
Myrina Mar 2016 #51
renate Mar 2016 #55
Buzz cook Mar 2016 #32
Aerows Mar 2016 #34
Zira Mar 2016 #42
Aerows Mar 2016 #36
Zira Mar 2016 #39
Scuba Mar 2016 #45
asuhornets Mar 2016 #47
bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #50
asuhornets Mar 2016 #52
bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #54
bobthedrummer Mar 2016 #48
Waiting For Everyman Mar 2016 #53

Response to seafan (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:31 PM

1. Hmm.. just found this on Twitter

 

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Response to Live Bait (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:13 AM

8. HAAAAA THIS IS THE BOMB! THE FUNNNN IS ONLY JUST BEGINNING!



Hillary Clinton if America is REALLY AMERICA SHOULD UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES BE ... ABOVE THE LAW!

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Response to Live Bait (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:52 AM

17. Good one.

 

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:39 PM

2. Sometimes, I feel like we are living in a Banana Republic. n/t

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:43 PM

3. and those 30K emails she deleted---where are they? and what was in them?

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Response to amborin (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:50 PM

4. deleted? Like with a cloth?

 

shoulda used a magnet

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Response to AgerolanAmerican (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 07:08 AM

44. The judge was NOT impressed that Clinton deleted 30k emails after she left

State Dept with NO OVERSIGHT by anyone in the govt as to whether they were actually personal or were related to State dept business.

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Response to amborin (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:52 PM

5. It looks as if the deleted emails have been found.

In August, the FBI obtained the server and has since recovered most, if not all, of the deleted correspondence, said a person familiar with the investigation.


I would wager that this deleted "personal" correspondence revolved around the deals she made as Secretary that would directly benefit the Clinton Foundation. As I'm sure you already know, this is another of several angles of FBI investigation now underway.

It's certainly going to be an interesting year.



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Response to seafan (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:15 AM

11. ALL The More Reason For Bernie To Just Keep On Keepin On!

Let's see what kind of Justice we got... justice for the FEW... OR... JUSTICE FOR ALL NO MATTER YOUR POSITION OR CONNECTIONS?

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Response to seafan (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:41 AM

16. The Clinton foundation's emails were on that server as well

Along with Bill, Chelsea and Hillary's aids non .Gov accounts. The FBI has everything!

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #16)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:53 AM

18. +10

 

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Response to NWCorona (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 29, 2016, 03:15 PM

56. Thanks for that, NWCorona!

 

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Response to seafan (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:17 AM

21. thanks! good to hear they could recover them; agree that they are probably very incriminating,

given the way she used her position at State to reward the Foundation cronies

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Response to amborin (Reply #3)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:53 PM

6. Well, the FBI says it recovered all of the data on the hard drive

 

if the article is to be believed.

I would say that the FBI needs to make a call soon, or things are going to get very ugly. Actually, i tihnk things will get ugly either way.

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Response to amborin (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:24 AM

13. The deleted e-mails

The 30,000 deleted e-mails could be a whole pile of smoking guns. Multiple media reports going to back late last year says the FBI recovered all of them, which means they've had at least half a year to go through them. And reports say they've been sorting them into work related and personal, which means Clinton lied when she said they were all personal in nature.

We do know that some of the deleted e-mail relate to the Libya war, because some showed up in the Republican (and generally bogus) Benghazi investigation, due to finding e-mails from Clinton in the in-boxes of other people.

I think Clinton is in a lot of trouble. I think she figured those deleted e-mails would be gone for good. After all, that's what happened to Karl Rove. Remember how thousands of his e-mails disappeared, never to be seen again? But someone in Clinton's camp messed up and didn't make those 30,000 e-mails disappear for good.

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Response to paulthompson (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:12 AM

20. As I tell my students, anything you do on a computer or online

is there forever. Be careful. There are people sittin' in the pokey because of what they put on their computers thinking that they had deleted it permanently.

If you put something on there you don't want to get out, it can (and most likely will) come back to haunt you.

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Response to paulthompson (Reply #13)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:22 AM

22. did you or perhaps someone else say that, unbeknownst to the clinton camp, email backups were being

stored in the cloud by one of the firms hired to handle the server?

as for the Benghazi investigation: it might have been bogus, but she was lying during her testimony:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511468802

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Response to amborin (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:41 AM

40. And will she get charged for deleting them?

 

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Response to amborin (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:39 AM

46. fro the article it appears that they have been recovered

 

as it turns out "wiping with a cloth" leaves a residue

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:09 AM

7. "not convenient" is a fig leaf

She was using the private server to run a rogue foreign policy operation out of sight of President Obama. Using the Foundation as a pay-to-play operation where heads of states got arms deals in exchange for donations to the Foundation. And other nefarious activities. She was using informants declared BANNED from the State Department by Obama himself. And she even had the gall to use that flawed intel to pressure Obama to attack in Libya.

The server is a minor part of her troubles.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:27 AM

15. Exactly!!!! It doesn't take 150 FBI agents to examine one hard drive

 

She's running for POTUS to CYA & grant herself immunity.
.. or so it would seem.

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Response to grasswire (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:23 AM

23. this sums it up exactly; just hope the public realizes that, as far as Libya is concerned, she is

responsible for the chaos, mayhem, and strengthening of ISIS

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Response to grasswire (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:40 AM

26. Bingo!

 

I recall HRC stating emphatically "Not going to happen" to a question posed regarding further investigations, can't remember the exact wording... except for the response in quotes.. Left me thinking that a deal had done and it was over with. But these reports make it appear her confidence was just a tad bit unjustified.. unless the LA Times and other publications didn't get the memo yet.

In any event I'm not looking forward to the effect this is going to have if this drags out into the General.

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:13 AM

9. We're really getting a front row seat on how the Bush Admin changed our narrative

Breaking the law is considered to be "just business" these days. It's really astounding to see how we don't even pretend there's not a double standard in play now.

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Response to Hydra (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:17 AM

12. Hopefully There Remain A FEW People of INTEGRITY In Positions of Authority Who Will Resist

Calls to letter slide and will instead ... HOLD HILLARY TO ACCOUNT FOR HER ACTIONS THAT PLACED US AT RISK!

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Response to CorporatistNation (Reply #12)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:55 AM

19. Comey is a decent guy.

 

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Response to 840high (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:26 AM

24. if the FBI makes a recommendation, to whom is it made?

will that be made public? is it up to the Justice Dept?

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Response to amborin (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:42 AM

27. Justice Department and Atty General Loretta Lynch

 

as far as I know.

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Response to 2banon (Reply #27)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:28 AM

37. I'm not intricately familiar with that specific letter of law

 

But I do think it bears being investigating.

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:14 AM

10. But Hillary already said '"I'm Sorry", and M$M is giving her the nomination

 

We all know what is around the next bend

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Response to 99th_Monkey (Reply #10)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:55 AM

29. My mom is going to call me day or night the moment she gets indited and we're going to party!

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:25 AM

14. ... which is why Bernie made those comments about superdelegates recently.

He was telegraphing that they should switch to him if she's indicted.

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:37 AM

25. 147 FBI agents?

that seems rather excessive or it must be a huge thing?

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #25)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:45 AM

28. I know, Right?

 

That image of a train wreck around the next bend is so apropo regardless.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #25)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:19 AM

35. Don't you know they are

 

merely picking on her, because how dare she be held to the same safety concerns as everybody else.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #25)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:11 AM

43. Given that we're continually told "nothing to see here"

That's an awful lot of feds to be standing around looking at nothing.

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 01:58 AM

30. kick

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:16 AM

31. This is really troubling.

What makes it even more so is that on here whenever it comes up, the accusation is that the people posting the numerous OPs on the subject are 'parroting Republican talking points.'

As much as I would like to believe that, I cannot. The LA Times is publishing this. There have been numerous stories from many news outlets on the emails, the server, her aides, legal immunity for techies and so on.

This is serious, and if Clinton gets the nomination, could implode as a nice 'October surprise' and lose us the election, which would take the Supreme Court into the realm of darkness for the next generation.

To the establishment: Is Bernie REALLY so bad that you're willing to allow this to happen????

Really??????????

All he wants to do is bring back the New Deal, and add single payer health care to it.

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Note to the oligarchs - whose people doubtless are reading posts on this site among others - just throw the American people these little tiny bones - spread the wealth just a tiny bit. Do this, and you will postpone the bloody revolution that is sure to come within a decade if you do not. Heck, you can fuck the middle class for the next 75 years, just as they did after the New Deal was implemented. People say FDR was an enemy of his class, but he was actually a genius for it. America would have gone red for sure if not for him. He bought you people nearly a century. Why not let Sanders buy you another? You're gonna make PLENTY of money because people who are happy, unstressed, don't have to worry about healthcare or sending their kids to college BUY MORE STUFF. They really do. A large, economically secure middle class is a REALLY GOOD IDEA.

Otherwise, guys, you'll get fucking Trump and if you think you can control him and his neo-Nazis, revisit transcripts from the Nuremberg Trials and especially look at the testimony of the big German industrialists who thought they could 'control' Hitler. Sure, Hitler re-armed Germany and they made plenty of money, but then he led them into a war that cost over 80 million lives, left Germany and most of Europe and Asia in ruins, and in the end caused the deaths of many of the industrialists and aristocrats either by violence or at the end of a noose. You really want that? Because at the end you might find yourselves in the dock being tried for your lives. Just pointing that out...

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:01 AM

33. Good points. Sad that many will think you're being extreme when we are living the extreme already.

 

We need Bernie Sanders.

Especially to combat Climate Change, work on rectifying the economy, and to pull back from endless wars. Yes, he will be just as tough on racial injustice - tougher even.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:34 AM

38. You can't so much as discuss a policy issue

 

with a Clinton supporter. You just get hit with name calling, and I have long gotten sick of it.

Just put them on ignore.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #38)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:44 AM

41. +10000

 

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:32 PM

49. fdr stopped the national cry to nationalize the fed

love your note to the 1%

we are not asking for 20 vacation homes or fancy private jets or anything close

we are asking for healthcare as a right,education as a right

we are saying that if the 1%'s children can have anything they desire to eat,that the 99s children at least have basic nutrition

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:44 PM

51. ^^ This ^^

n/t

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #31)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 04:25 PM

55. all very well said

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 02:31 AM

32. That's a good picture of Clinton

She seems tough and determined.

Odd if there is trouble for mishandling classified material, that wasn't classified till after she left the office of Secretary of State.

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:17 AM

34. Honestly it shocks me that people would consider

 

voting for such a corrupt politician.

It isn't exactly news that she speaks out of both sides of her mouth. I'm a woman and I see no examples of sexism other than the ones she blatantly supported - namely her husband screwing and screwing over any number of women.

Do not get into a conversation about sexism and Hillary Clinton.

Or do it, and face the mine field.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #34)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:44 AM

42. +10000

 

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:25 AM

36. I'm shocked

 

there is gambling going on in here.

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:39 AM

39. It shouldn't stand and she should be charged with deleting evidence too.

 

The FBI had to recover all the mails she deleted.

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 08:01 AM

45. The best case is that she just has horrible judgement.

 

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:46 AM

47. Who cares...

Your words: "How can all of this be allowed to stand?" ask newsmax or freerepublic

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #47)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:42 PM

50. "A horse is a horse, of course, of course..."

 

I, for one, care very deeply. I voted for President Clinton twice, as well as twice for President Obama. No more kool aid (aka Information Operations/perception management) for me. I search for the truth wherever it is found.

Bill Clinton pardon controversy (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_pardon_controversy

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Response to bobthedrummer (Reply #50)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:45 PM

52. I get I get

You hate the Clintons. But lots of people don't. Bill Clinton created 23 million jobs. Democrats loooovvve him. And so do I.

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Response to asuhornets (Reply #52)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:53 PM

54. I love the Clintons but not more than the truth and the rule of law. I hate liars. n/t

 

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 11:54 AM

48. Dillon, Reed & Co. Inc. and the Aristocracy of Prison Profits: Part II (Catherine Austin Fitts)

 

http://narconews.com/Issue40/article1650.html

BCCI, Iran Contra relevance: UAE, Saudi, Pakistan, money and Bush family (ProSense DU 2006)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2870996

History teaches US so much, thanks for starting this thread seafan.

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Response to seafan (Original post)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 03:50 PM

53. I think for once in her life, Hillary is going to be held accountable.

I know most people don't believe that, but I do. I think right now Hillary's chickens are picking out their roosting spots.

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