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Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:01 AM

 

I was never very good at math

Apparently Hillary supporters are all mathematicians. So, how's the math looking now?

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Reply I was never very good at math (Original post)
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 OP
onehandle Mar 2016 #1
ibegurpard Mar 2016 #3
cui bono Mar 2016 #13
Segami Mar 2016 #15
AgerolanAmerican Mar 2016 #58
Logical Mar 2016 #25
1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #27
morningfog Mar 2016 #30
MFM008 Mar 2016 #2
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #4
Voice for Peace Mar 2016 #5
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #8
VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #6
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #7
Post removed Mar 2016 #9
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #10
yuiyoshida Mar 2016 #11
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #14
DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2016 #16
pdsimdars Mar 2016 #12
hack89 Mar 2016 #22
1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #29
hack89 Mar 2016 #32
1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #33
Live Bait Mar 2016 #41
1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #47
BernieforPres2016 Mar 2016 #43
Trenzalore Mar 2016 #17
lostnfound Mar 2016 #18
Trenzalore Mar 2016 #19
lostnfound Mar 2016 #37
Tarc Mar 2016 #20
hack89 Mar 2016 #21
Myrina Mar 2016 #23
hack89 Mar 2016 #28
Myrina Mar 2016 #35
hack89 Mar 2016 #36
Live Bait Mar 2016 #42
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #40
SidDithers Mar 2016 #24
Number23 Mar 2016 #38
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #39
Trust Buster Mar 2016 #26
Impedimentus Mar 2016 #31
Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #49
Lucinda Mar 2016 #34
NuclearDem Mar 2016 #44
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #45
NuclearDem Mar 2016 #46
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #51
NuclearDem Mar 2016 #52
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #54
NuclearDem Mar 2016 #57
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #59
SheilaT Mar 2016 #53
NuclearDem Mar 2016 #55
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #60
Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2016 #48
Godhumor Mar 2016 #50
grossproffit Mar 2016 #56

Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:04 AM

1. Great. It's impossible for Bernie to win.

But keep up the fantasy.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:12 AM

3. Not impossible at all.

Very possible. Improbable but possible. Probability is not fact.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 05:51 AM

13. F is for Fail.

You need to go back to school. It's not at all mathematically impossible.

Is it an involuntary reaction that you have to post things that are so completely wrong? Or is it a premeditated attempt to dissuade us?

.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:44 AM

15. Heh-heh,...you've been playing that same 3-note tune

 

since May 2015.........

..so why did Bernie just finish CRUSHING the inevitable uncertain candidate three straight?....

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Response to Segami (Reply #15)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:54 PM

58. six straight now

 

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:41 AM

25. LOL, you are confused. Head back and whine at the gun forum. nt

 

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:47 AM

27. Not impossible ...

 

but, it's very, very, unlikely that Bernie will win the primary.

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:54 AM

30. Your ignorance and Bernie hate is showing.

 

Impossible is a word that has a specific meaning.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:09 AM

2. Im afraid

its not going to happen, I dont care which one gets it, Im voting democrat and will vote for the nominee.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:13 AM

4. Is your math is failing you? I thought so!

 

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:55 AM

8. Thank you, I've not seen this.

 

Going to watch now.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:43 AM

6. Don't you know? They all moonlight as mathematicians, foreign policy experts,

information technology experts with CCNAs, CCSPs, and Sec+ certifications, and sociologists on the regular-- I mean, that's how I justify their wide brush tarring of people and their oh so obvious understanding of subject matter.

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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:53 AM

7. Thank you! That's what I was getting at! Experts at bullshit!!

 

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Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:31 AM

10. You sorry person. I feel very sorry for your ineptitude. Peace be with you.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #10)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:42 AM

11. and the results are in!

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:33 AM

14. Thanks, yui !!

 

I was hoping someone would alert that. I don't alert much at all, but I thought the Bircher thing was a BIT over the top!

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:46 AM

16. That guy is a troll. We used to be able to tell simple truths like that.

 

I'll probably have my post locked, but I find myself not caring very much about that. It's more important for me to point out the obvious: Ericson00 is a fucking troll, and to my eyes, indistinguishable from a Republican.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 04:59 AM

12. You see, the PROBLEM is that the MATH is based on the VOTERS and they are motivated by

 

ENTHUSIASM. . . . . . .

Average Hillary crowd 4,000
Average Bernie crowd 18,000 (or something like that)

That "math" is going to follow those turnouts.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:35 AM

22. How come the popular vote doesn't follow those turnouts? Nt

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Response to hack89 (Reply #22)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:53 AM

29. You mean ...

 

the popular vote that has HRC +2.5 million?

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #29)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:22 AM

32. Exactly. Reasonable question don't you think? t

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Response to hack89 (Reply #32)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 11:56 AM

33. Well ... It does seem to run counter to a narrative ...

 

It amazes me that some would hold up victories in states with populations smaller than some U.S. cities.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #29)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:15 PM

41. Popular vote is irrelevant in the primary OR the GE.

 

It's the delegates AND the EV that matters, not popular vote.

If we had popular vote, Gore would have won in 2000. No question.

But we don't so drop the popular vote meme that makes absolutely zero sense.

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Response to Live Bait (Reply #41)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:48 PM

47. I know how primaries and general elections work ...

 

My comment was more to the "will of the people" of a losing campaign meme, going stound here; but, thank you and welcome to DU.

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Response to pdsimdars (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:30 PM

43. Has Hillary had ONE crowd as large as 4000?

I would guess her average is closer to 400, given how many of her events are private fundraisers. The handful of regular events i've seen from her have a few hundred people in attendance. Bernie's average is probably more like 8000. The really big crowds have been 15,000 or so, but not many of Bernie's venues have had capacities of above 10,000.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 07:47 AM

17. Still pretty damn good

The upcoming map even looks better.

Closed primaries ahead...not caucuses. Good luck.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:18 AM

18. Closed primaries with hackable voter registration databases. Wars continue. Nt

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #18)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:20 AM

19. Trash

If you believe that Hillary conspired with the Arizona republican Secretary of State there is no hope for you.

Caucuses are undemocratic and they disenfranchise the elderly, disabled, people with children, and the working class.

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Response to Trenzalore (Reply #19)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:22 PM

37. I didn't say anything about Hillary

I don't jump to conclusions.

There are many people with a stake in continuing neoliberal policies and hawkish foreign policy. There is also a Republican penchant for vote suppression.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:25 AM

20. It's like knowing the difference of climate vs, weather, actually.

A storm is passing over Camp Hillary at the moment, but once the clouds drop all they have, they become insubstantial and drift away.

The forecast for New York, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Delaware looks to be sunny and warmer, temperatures in the 60s with a reported high of 80 in Washington DC, Kentucky, and Puerto Rico.


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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:34 AM

21. Very good. Obama never had a lead this big in2008

Hillary was winning primaries in May and could still never catch up.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:35 AM

23. This thread is very telling ...

... even in the light of Sanders' complete sweep of the Saturday primaries, the HRC folks are doubling down on their campaign strategy of "No You Can't ".

It seems to be the general theme that surrounds her & her supporters, doesn't it? Helluva governing philosophy. No thanks.

The arc may be steep, but yes we can. :kick:

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Response to Myrina (Reply #23)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:50 AM

28. We understand the delegate math

we know that she has victories ahead in large states that will erase Bernie's success yesterday.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #28)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:07 PM

35. Ooh, another one for the ignore list.

Thanks for identifying yourself.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #35)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 03:16 PM

36. Why are Bernie supporters so immature?

can't wait for the primaries to be over they they will go away.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #28)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:20 PM

42. Her expected victories will be defeats.

 

Including NY and PA.

Wisconsin belongs to Bernie.

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Response to Myrina (Reply #23)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:13 PM

40. Isn't it though!

 

I guess they have no choice, they made their beds.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:39 AM

24. Sorry. It was over on March 15...

Bernie may get closer, then further away, then closer, then further away.

But he'll never pull ahead.

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 06:50 PM

38. Pretty much. Then when you see that less than 300,000 folks voted in all three states yesterday

and he's still down by 260+ delegates even after his sweep, it sure as hell puts everything in perspective.

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #24)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:12 PM

39. Thanks for reminding me.... AGAIN!...

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:45 AM

26. I regret to inform you that your math skills haven't improved much.....LOL

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:56 AM

31. Please don't demean mathematicians

Last edited Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:31 PM - Edit history (1)

"Apparently Hillary supporters are all mathematicians."

I disagree with the premise. Mathematicians are very smart people.

FEEL THE BERN - 2016

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Response to Impedimentus (Reply #31)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:06 PM

49. I'm flattered.

For what it's worth, the only candidate who we can be mathematically certain is not going to win on votes is Kasich, but this professional mathematician thinks that, based not on maths per se but on broadly mathematical reasoning (looking at how well things like polls, racial demographics, geography and primary vs caucus have correlated with the outcomes up until now, and how far ahead Clinton already is) only a fool would offer anything other than very, very long odds on Sanders winning, and also that by staying in he's non-trivially increasing the chance that the next US president will have a lemming on his head.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 01:28 PM

34. Excellent. Things are going pretty much as we've been saying they would!

Thanks for asking!

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:32 PM

44. Pretty good actually.

 

48 point lead in a closed primary state with 247 delegates, a double digit lead in a closed primary with over 100 delegates, and a double digit lead in a closed primary with 95 delegates.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #44)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 08:38 PM

45. Where did you get your numbers?

 

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #46)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:20 PM

51. Well, those states are 3-4 weeks out. I'm not concerned.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #51)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:36 PM

52. Well, voter registration closed last week for New York.

 

So, maybe one should be a little worried.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #52)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:43 PM

54. Maybe you should be, I'm not.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #54)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:53 PM

57. Well, as you said, math isn't your strong suit...

 

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #57)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:49 AM

59. Math is limited when predicting the human heart. Very limited.

 

You keep doing your calculations, I've got a political revolution to go to.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #46)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:37 PM

53. Hmmm. Considering he gave Hillary a 99%+ chance of winning

 

Michigan, I'd say those states look at best like a toss-up.

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Response to SheilaT (Reply #53)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:46 PM

55. Michigan was an open primary.

 

The polls were wrong because they didn't anticipate so many Democrats crossing over to vote in the GOP primary.

New York is closed.

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Response to NuclearDem (Reply #55)

Mon Mar 28, 2016, 12:50 AM

60. LOL

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 09:53 PM

48. Good, thanks.

Clinton is well ahead on delegates.

She's also ahead in the polls in Wisconsin and New York, and there aren't many caucus states left.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:15 PM

50. Well, as an actual statistical analyst

I'm feeling fine, thanks for asking.

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Response to Godhumor (Reply #50)

Sun Mar 27, 2016, 10:48 PM

56. +1

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