Thread of Lies - updated

[whatchamacallit]

Hillary supporters, how many of you would throw in the towel if the situation was reversed?

Edit: Please no anecdotes about other elections and candidates. In this election would be ready to quit supporting Hillary right now if the situation was reversed?

[RandySF]

1. At this point, I would know my candidate was beat.

[whatchamacallit]

3. And you would encourage her to quit?

[RandySF]

4. Yep and I've done so numerous times over the years.

[whatchamacallit]

9. Who, when, how?

[RandySF]

12. Jackson 88, Dean '04

[whatchamacallit]

13. Did you tell them, write them?

[RandySF]

14. Nothing that special

I just opined that it was time to hang it up.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. You don't have to throw in the towel

But you do have to understand that all the money you're throwing at Bernie is doing nothing but lining the pockets of Tad Devine and Jeff Weaver.

Hillary will be nominated over the summer while Tad and Jeff sunbathe in the Florida Keys.

[whatchamacallit]

8. My money, my choice

I don't buy that bullshit for a minute, but I'd rather feather their nests than line the pockets of ClintonCo and cronies. And I definitely won't see it used to facilitate blowing up brown babies half a world away.

[Cali_Democrat]

11. ...

[whatchamacallit]

18. Says you

I feel good about it, and that's all that really matters.

[think]

17. The Single Payer issue alone is worth having Bernie out there fighting hard.

Hillary on the other hand gave millions of dollars in speeches to health care and pharmaceutical companies that will benefit from the current health care model and is now dissing single payer.

Hillary Clinton’s Single-Payer Pivot Greased By Millions in Industry Speech Fees

By Zaid Jilani
Jan. 13 2016, 10:39 a.m.

Hillary Clinton’s sudden attack on Bernie Sanders’ single-payer health care plan is a dramatic break with Democratic Party doctrine that the problem with single-payer is that it is politically implausible — not that it is a bad idea.

Single-payer, the Canadian-style system in which the government pays for universal health care, takes the health insurance industry out of the picture, saving huge amounts of money. But the health insurance industry has become so rich and powerful that it would never let it happen.

That was certainly Clinton’s position back in the early 1990s, when she was developing her doomed universal coverage proposal for her husband, Bill.

But in the ensuing years, both Clintons have taken millions of dollars in speaking fees from the health care industry. According to public disclosures, Hillary Clinton alone, from 2013 to 2015, made $2,847,000 from 13 paid speeches to the industry.

Read more:
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/13/hillary-clinton-single-payer/

[Politicalboi]

5. If Bernie had an FBI investigation and a Sanders foundation

That was dealing arms, I would want him to drop out. If Bernie was taking money from Wall Street and not showing us his words, I would want him to drop out. If Bernie went behind Obama's back I would want him to drop out.

[Ned_Devine]

7. Excellent points and well said

[upaloopa]

6. Most likely we all would want to pull together

It makes no sense to fight a battle that deminishes us all

[whatchamacallit]

10. Doesn't answer my question does it?

[upaloopa]

22. I think it does

I said in My OP if the situation were reversed I would want Hillary to drop out after I healed from the DU wars

[Dem2]

15. I don't have a strong preference in this cycle, but...

I had already thrown the towel in on Hillary in '08 by now, so it's not theoretical. Obama was obviously the better candidate - it was clear that his charisma was going to carry the day. It's not as clear to me who's the obviously better candidate in this cycle, though Bernie does have a tough row to hoe.

[whatchamacallit]

16. Did you harrass her and her supporters to quit?

[Dem2]

19. That's not my style

I don't criticize either candidate in this cycle either. I do object to unfair criticism of either candidate.

[whatchamacallit]

20. I wish there were more like you around here

[brooklynite]

21. In 2008, I switched from Clinton to Obama when I thought he could win...

I don't feel that way about Sanders.