2016 Postmortem
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I'm hearing lots of noise coming out of the political realm Third Way is seeking positions in a possible Hillary administration. Now before Hillary supporters jump to conclusions thinking I'm merely engaging in "Artful Smears" I would much rather hear suggestions and recommendations as to how we as Democratic Voters and supporters could persuade Hillary from NOT allowing that to happen.
Third Way has become the Clinton's Swift-Boat Campaign against Bernie Sanders
Third Way is reaching the point of desperation in its quest to cut Social Security and protect its Wall Street, K Street lobbyist, and GOP donors from paying their fair share. As Third Way has become more and more marginalized, its public outpourings have become more and more extreme and, quite frankly, head-scratching.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nancy-altman/wall-streets-third-way-ab_b_9125786.html
Startled by Bernie's success, Bill Daley is leading a Third Way revolt of centrist Democrats against the populist.
http://www.alternet.org/election-2016/why-bernie-sanders-has-centrist-democrats-freaking-out
They have also attacked Sen. Elizabeth Warren for her progressive views on her "Radical Agenda" of preserving Social Security
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) said Thursday that think tank Third Way is "flatly wrong" about the solvency of Social Security.
"We could make modest adjustments and make the system financially stable for a century, and we could make somewhat larger adjustments and make the system pay more for seniors who rely on it," she told the Huffington Post. "The conversation for too long has been about whether to cut Social Security benefits a little bit or a lot. And that is flatly the wrong debate to have in mind."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/warren-responds-to-third-way-attack-defends-social-security-stance
Third Way is determined to Privatize Social Security
Now many here at DU may wish to ignore this, because Hillary's original position on changes to Social Security played nicely into Third Way's ultimate goal of privatizing Social Security. However over the course of the Primary Hillary has modified her positions on Social Security considerably.
My concern would be that she remain committed.
Third Way, lobbyists for and from Wall Street who are leading the effort to enrich Wall Street by privatizing Social Security, was created by Wall Street to fool some of the people all of the time. I have written previously to expose their fictional claims to be a moderate or liberal Democratic group.
http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/12778-wall-street-uses-the-third-way-to-lead-its-assault-on-social-security
You can read Third Way's position on Social Security - Don't be too alarmed if you hear a lot of "Paul Ryan" in them.
http://www.thirdway.org/report/its-time-for-a-national-commission-on-social-security
And we as Americans should also be concerned about the Third Way's Globalist views given Neocon's propensity to engage in Wars of Opportunity.
capital, especially currency speculation, as well as increased funding for the International Monetary Fund. Alarmingly, the European Union projectcontinental Europes very own socialist Trojan Horseis described as a pioneering phenomenon. In predictable communitarian fashion, the problem of how to live in a finite world consumes a significant portion of the Third Ways intellectual resources. Dangerously, both for the competitive market and for the environment, most of the recommended solutions fit under
the disingenuous heading of sustainable development, i.e., command-and-control-style environmental economics on a global scale.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/sites/default/files/ThirdWay.pdf
To Fellow DUers, I've attempted to present this as informational. I hope folks are not offended and actually take the time to gather information as to "How WE as Democratic Voters can preserve and defend our votes, our Democratic Candidates, and the 2016 Democratic Platform from being manipulated in the process'
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frazzled
(18,402 posts)Have some respect for the people. I find it tragic how so many here disrespect the democratic process and the people. I also find it somewhat scary: as if they would prefer a dictatorial regime. We live in a democracy. The people vote. You may not like their choice, but deal with it.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Unfortunately most don't make the effort
synergie
(1,901 posts)they just don't think that Bernie is who they wish to be president. It's not because they are somehow stupid or lazy, as you imply. Lots of people who have waded through the smear jobs promoted by Bernie supporters and see Bernie clearly.
They don't like his lack of specifics, they don't like his voting record, they don't like the way he deals with people, and reporters, and women and his colleagues. They don't like the political expediency he chooses to exert when it's convenient for him and the cases when he's too ideologically pure to do what's right for Americans, they don't like his special carve out for certain corporations and not others.
They see Bernie quite clearly and it has nothing to do with "the Third way", so stop with the if they were only smart enough to believe what I believe about Bernie regardless of reality, they'd see him for the socialist carpenter I see him as!!
It's silly and hysterical.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)It's an honest question
I haven't been a part of it nor seen any of it -
But I've seen quite a few Hillary supporters talking about it. And in light of all the disingenuous Smear Tactics played out on Bernie's Civil Rights record I would have to see it for myself before I take your word on it
Call me sheltered from reality but do you have anything other than accusations
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Both mean the end of "By the people, for the people" government.
RIP USA.
amborin
(16,631 posts)and, just wait until the TTIP
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)But changes that mandate Means Testing coupled with Sequester cuts would play directly into Third Way's plan to privatise social security
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)but your links provided more detailed info. Thanks.
I don't trust Hillary one whit on this issue.