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Sat Mar 19, 2016, 09:18 AM

 

Media disparages Bernie Sanders' pro-gay rights record


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Reply Media disparages Bernie Sanders' pro-gay rights record (Original post)
vintx Mar 2016 OP
Laughing Mirror Mar 2016 #1
MisterP Mar 2016 #9
Laughing Mirror Mar 2016 #17
MisterP Mar 2016 #19
JaneyVee Mar 2016 #2
LexVegas Mar 2016 #4
Armstead Mar 2016 #6
vintx Mar 2016 #16
beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #13
Armstead Mar 2016 #5
karynnj Mar 2016 #8
beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #11
LexVegas Mar 2016 #3
beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #12
Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #7
pinebox Mar 2016 #10
Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2016 #14
pinebox Mar 2016 #15
Octafish Mar 2016 #18
Nye Bevan Mar 2016 #20

Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:07 AM

1. "Sanders, the better candidate by a mile"

"who was there for us when everyone hated us," as compared with, "Hillary Clinton is the better candidate for me because she actively fought against my rights as an LGBT person."

Mike Figueredo is brilliant in decrypting the half-truths and lies told about Sanders' record on LGBT rights to make Clinton's stinking product smell like a rose. Thanks for posting this, vintx.

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Response to Laughing Mirror (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:31 PM

9. HRC admitted she was the worse candidate, but endorsed her anyway!

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Response to MisterP (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:15 AM

17. Confirmation bias

A classic textbook example. I can think of no other explanation than that for the constant blindness to reality.

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Response to Laughing Mirror (Reply #17)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:52 PM

19. and it's well-known that Clinton has enemies lists and keeps grudges for decades

so the best policy is to surrender out of fear and help throw shade on Sanders' record!

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:09 AM

2. Didnt Mayor Bernie Sanders sign an...

 

City marriage declaration designating marriage between a man and a woman?

I'll see if I can find it.

Update https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8FLYbegXp9JNENTR0pVelk3bHM/view

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:15 AM

4. He did. He also believed marriage was a states rights issue. He has since evolved. nt

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:20 AM

6. Look up WHY he did that

 

He was trying to stop a bad bill -- DOMA -- with a constitutional argument, to give legislators a way to oppose it that would keep them off the hook on the issue.

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Response to Armstead (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 05:09 PM

16. It's called politics.

 

Something that some people think he's no good at, despite his record. (Thanks to those 'artful smears')

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #4)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:58 PM

13. That is a distortion, he supported states' rights to PASS marriage equality.

That's why he voted against DOMA.

Here is a quote from 2006:

I was a strong supporter of civil unions, I believe that. I voted against the DOMA bill, I believe that the federal government should not be involved in overturning Massachusetts or any other the state because I think the whole issue of marriage is a state issue.


He didn't want the feds overturning states that passed same sex marriage legislation.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:18 AM

5. It was a silly ordinance to honor the family and marriage at a totally different time

 

Also note it says "husband and wife" not a "man and a woman"....That may sound like a technicality -- but it is NOT a statement against gay marriage

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 11:04 AM

8. He also as mayor gave health care benefits to all kinds of families

No, I do not have a link for this, but was told this by several Burlingtonians. That proclamation, which he did not write, was not controversial in 1982. Unlike, DOMA, which Sanders was among the few to vote against.

This strikes me similar to HRC raising the House vote on the commodities future modernization vote that only FOUR Congressmen, led by Ron Paul voted against to argue he was not really pro regulation.

I really do not get why her team is trying to attack the core of who Bernie Sanders is. Including attacking his real civil rights record, his real inclusiveness and his real record of holding Wall Street accountable. This when an underlying message is that he is too extreme in the other direction.

At this point, she is very likely to win, that she and her campaign is pushing meme aimed to destroy Sanders is something that appalls me. Obama did not do this in the far closer 2008 race and there was no hint of this in 2004 or 2000.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:55 PM

11. No that's a lie, it says nothing about marriage between "a man and a woman".

Why do you make up falsehoods?

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:14 AM

3. He has evolved to his current position as has many politicians. nt

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:56 PM

12. He didn't need to evolve because he never opposed marriage equality.

Your candidate on the other hand:




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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 10:48 AM

7. Team Hillary is still trying to erase Hillary's revision of history to favor Ron and Nancy Reagan

 




"It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS back in the 1980s and because of both president and Mrs. Reagan in particular Mrs. Reagan we started a national conversation, when before nobody would talk about it, nobody wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something I really appreciate with her very effective low-key advocacy. It penetrated the public conscience and people began to say, hey, we have to do something about this too."

I love the wise crack about other people's memories she opens with....self serving, ironic and offensive.

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 01:41 PM

10. *cough cough*

 

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Response to pinebox (Reply #10)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:07 PM

14. Yep. I suppose there is a "dollar bin" containing "poutrage" and "pony" tshirts now that ....

.... those memes are no longer politically expedient for that segment of our conservadems.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 19, 2016, 02:09 PM

15. lol "Pony tshirts"

 

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 10:23 AM

18. Seems to be a paid echo chamber.

Organized echoes, any way.

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Response to vintx (Original post)

Sun Mar 20, 2016, 01:58 PM

20. Everyone has evolved on marriage equality, including Obama, Hillary and Bernie.

Most of us voted for Obama in 2008 knowing that he opposed marriage equality at that time. Basing your choice of candidate upon the precise time they evolved seems a little silly.

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