Hillary supporters: you will be sorry to hear that we will be here all the way to the Convention

[Rosa Luxemburg]

and to November. This race is by no means over. Watch how things will change over the next few weeks. Say what you like but they will.

[RandySF]

1. Jerry Brown also took it all the way to the convention in 1992.

[Scootaloo]

4. And Mondale did great in the Primaries.

[Hortensis]

104. Bernie is welcome to hang in and help defeat the GOP,

his liberal supporters and other not-so-liberal supporters are welcome to hang in.

It's certain behaviors I would be glad to see go. I'm tired of incessant insults, mischaracterizations, and outright lies about my candidate, my party, and liberals like me.

I'm tired of the profound contempt for the wishes, opinions, sacred beliefs, and even civil rights of every single person in America who is not with them. I'm now tired of the no-longer-surprising revelations of the destructive, absolutist, anti-democracy actions some people would be capable of or support in pursuit of their agenda.

I'm tired of the unending flow of right wing propaganda brought to DU and the constant attack, attack, attack, like a broken record skipping on Hillary 24/7/365. And I'm tired of the miserable, defeatist pessimism and unbalanced anti-Americanism of so many.

I'm tired of extremism of any type. When it's not irritating as hell or scary as hell, it's just boring as hell.

Extremism is a perspective or viewpoint that demonizes those with opposing viewpoints, using all-or-none thinking to characterize people as either “fully for” or “fully against” the group’s views, and identifying certain people outside the group as having less innate value on a basic human level.

[Scootaloo]

114. I suppose you ought to check yourself then.

[dana_b]

2. here is to you, Rosa!!

[RobertEarl]

3. In it to win it... Feel the Bern!

I can't believe some of them are actually saying we should leave their website, as if they own it, and the convention is over.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

7. I was here at DU in 2008 and I don't think it was as bad

If Hillary's campaign want support they are not going the right way about it.

[RobertEarl]

23. It's as if they hate us?

Last I heard, this was the Bernie Underground. Which is a fitting name since the M$M, Wall Street, and the MIC hates Bernie and us, too.

[rhett o rick]

33. Those that thought that a Democratic president would undo the crap that Bush brought us

are figuring out that Conservative Democrats are not their friend. Fool us once with Obama and don't you dare try to fool us again with Clinton. We need change, not the bullcrap Obama change, but real change. We need to get our democracy back from the Ruling Class and their puppets.

[ezgoingrl]

74. It wasn't.

This is awful and depressing.

[griffi94]

5. i think that's great

hillary is doing very well and i'm glad bernie is pulling her to the left.
of course after tonight she can mostly ignore him. he can't win now
bernie ran a great race. he did better than expected.

i felt the bern...it turned out to be the nachos i had for lunch

[Rosa Luxemburg]

9. Well

He can win. Hillary will start to dry up from now on.

[griffi94]

13. of course she will

he'll win every primary with the kind of blowout numbers he needs.
feel the bern
turns out the burn was fixed with rolaids

[That Guy 888]

29. "...the bern was fixed with rolaids" Umm... don't quit your day job.

That's some gop level "humor" their.

[griffi94]

34. i think ya meant there

dont quit your english class

[That Guy 888]

41. Thanks for the correction

but seriously, that is some real crap humor, worthy of gops, as in more combative than funny. Something political apparatchiks seem to have a problem maintaining is the ability to tell funny jokes that are also political.

[griffi94]

44. eye of the beholder

sorry if yer skin is thin
wasn't a political joke...was a pun. i felt the bern
fixed it with rolaids.
i guess i could have said. i felt the bern, turned out to be the chili i had at lunch.
feel the bern, then try preparation h medicated wipes
i actually thought that last was a bit disrespectful.
good luck in the rest of the primaries

[That Guy 888]

48. Lol no my skin isn't thin, just trying to help. You need to work on your humor - or tell less jokes

Watching some stand up comedy might do it.

[That Guy 888]

54. piss off? That doesn't sound very friendly.

You're the one bringing up the election, I'm just trying to help.

[griffi94]

56. wow looks like hillary swept

[That Guy 888]

60. As expected. Which should put you in a good mood. Which is essential for telling good jokes!

[griffi94]

64. go get a Pearl...or a Lone Star

drink it and be happy

[That Guy 888]

69. Lol both are horrible, if you ever make it TX have a Shiner.

But on a serious note, many people find that alcohol, in moderation, is relaxing. When relaxed people often tell better jokes.

[KPN]

61. Lol!

Sore losers are one thing, but sore winner?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

121. English is spelled with a capital "E."

You shouldn't miss class, either.

[Punkingal]

30. She will never be President.

You gonna have your clever little jokes for us when Trump beats her butt?

[griffi94]

36. feeling the bern

fixing it with rolaids

[That Guy 888]

42. Nooo! don't go the way of "Sore/Loserman"

Repeating a joke is the best way to kill it, and that joke didn't have much life to start with.

[highprincipleswork]

62. I believe if she's smart, if she wants to really be great, she'll stay to the Left.

Certainly just a personal point of view. But how about retaining or earning the enthusiasm of Bernie supporters for a change, instead of denigrating them, dismissing them, and disappointing them?

How about establishing a more Progressive Clinton legacy, even more distinguished and more clearly Progressive than Bill's.

How about being the female F.D.R.?

That's the vision I would hope to see, even work for, volunteer for, root for.

I don't expect it. I expect a pivot to the right any second now, and that is what is going to disappoint turnout and a whole generation of new voters, who will look for their Progressive politics somewhere else.

But it would be grand, and I would advise Hillary supporters to pass it on up high, if you like. Wouldn't it be great if we could actually have the solidity of the Hillary candidacy that supporters all like and yet still the exciting Progressivism of Bernie, whose stands she already has largely adopted.

Pipe dream, no doubt, but not impossible.

[KPN]

68. Right -- at least until

she's elected. Don't kid yourself. The system is rigged. Until we get big money out of it, always will be.

[highprincipleswork]

82. Depends on how you want to play the game and what rewards you are going for.

Many versions of success in life. If she wants to get elected, I'm suggesting one powerful way.

If she wants to go down in history as well-loved and an effective, popular President like FDR (had to actually enact a Constitutional amendment to stop people from voting for him), I'm suggesting the same powerful way.

I realize those who have supported her thus far and who fuel her money train. I realize what they want most likely in payment for their support. And yet, whose fun and whose life is it anyway?

If she wants legacy, I'm suggesting the clearest possible way.

[KPN]

112. Well, if she wins the nomination

... while i Realize it's highly likely at this point, I'm not willing to concede that ... let's just hope you are right. But I fear the worst ... and she has never given me one reason to feel otherwise.

[marions ghost]

6. I'm in to the convention

I KNOW there are more of us!

[NBachers]

8. Your involvement, your passion, and your hard work will push us all in the right direction.

I'm supporting Hillary, but I don't see us on different teams. You are pushing the election, the next administration, and the next Congress the way it should be pushed.

Thanks for everything, and I'm not being snarky.

[jillan]

10. Thank you! I mean it. I wish I could hear this message from more of her supporters.

[Maru Kitteh]

12. count me in

[jillan]

17. Thank you too. Sincerely. It really does matter to me and I'm sure to some of the others. I'm

sure you can imagine what it would feel like if the shoe was on the other foot.

It's hard when you believe in something so much and you are not seeing the results you are hoping for.

[nolabear]

27. We Hillary people believe deeply too. We're in this together to try to do good.

I hope we can hang onto that as we go forward.

[villager]

57. There is very little sense of "together" from her supporters on this site, however.

It's disheartening.

Though your comments are appreciated.

Regardless, if the next President lasts eight years, he-or-she will eventually be just a bad historical footnote unless they can transcend special interest politics and deal with the looming crisis of climate change.

We shall see....

[bettyellen]

39. I am on the fence, but I appreciate the hard work many SBS supporters have done.

I don't hold a grudge over the bullshit some say. They likely are not the ones who will continue on.
I salute your commitment!

[shadowandblossom]

70. I also see a good side. So, you can hear it from me too.

I'm a Clinton supporter and I want to see us all voting for congress and being more involved in the system too, voting in local elections Paying more attention. I am grateful for that part too. I also think that it has helped make limiting money in politics a more central issue. You know the Clintons and many other politicians got into politics after supporting Mcgovern. It would be great if Sanders inspires many people not only to vote, but to also actively shape it by being a part of it.

[Maru Kitteh]

11. ^^this^^

[NBachers]

18. Well, let's all take a deep breath, gear up, and jump back into the battle.

And the first sarcastic "Kumbaya" poster gets placed on ignore. We got bigger shit to do.

[joshcryer]

20. Indeed, we already have significant votes to affect the platform.

It's going to be amazing the stuff that will be in there.

[NBachers]

25. Hell yes! Do It! And if Bernie gets nominated, I'm 200% behind him and his team.

[desmiller]

31. ^^^Booyah!!

[KPN]

71. Really? How about you and Hillary's other supporters?

Will you push her in the right direction? In fact, what's the right direction? And how are you all going to push her and hold her accountable? If you are so concerned about needing us to push her in the right direction, why do/did you support her?

Seriously -- and pardon me if I sound skeptical. What do you say? Answer those questions and then maybe I can get beyond my skepticism.

[NBachers]

76. Listen- Bill Clinton drove me nuts and made me clench my teeth with rage with some of the awful

shit he pulled. But I stayed involved, advocated and voted, and supported him.

Barack Obama disappointed me over and over again, but I voted, contributed, and advocated for people & policies I believed in. And I still support Barack Obama.

Hillary or Sanders, whoever's elected, will have me slapping my forehead in disbelief at some of the bone-headed wrong shit they pull. Their behavior, in many cases, will not be good for my blood pressure.

This is just the nature of how it works. But we still have to use the tools our democracy gives us to steer policy, make our demands heard, and hold politicians accountable.

Here's the money quote: "use the tools our democracy gives us"

[KPN]

79. Well, I appreciate the response

but I'm not sure you answered my questions. I did the same with Obama especially, but less with Clinton because I was busy being a dad. I don't buy it. I'm fed up with the sell out of middle Americans. Clinton's and Obama's economic policies both did exactly that -- and it's been going on for almost 40 years. ... I personally am fairly well off and financially secure fortunately -- but I see more and more who are not. And we're not doing a frigging thing to fix that. The 3rd Way is nothing but a Trojan Horse ... the same old "trickle down". If you share those feelings, why in the world would you vote for HRC over Bernie?

[NBachers]

83. Because I believe that Hillary, though deeply flawed, has taken everything the Republicans can throw

at her since 1991 and is still kicking their collective asses.

I think she has the strength, the will, and the abilities to keep them in check. And that's the primary objective right now.

As civilization deteriorates, Republicans in power will only hasten and accelerate our extinction. And there's nothing we'll be able to do about it. Remember George W Bush?

A Clinton administration will contain elements that we can influence and work with. It's a better chance.

Bush made the world despise the USA and Americans. Barack Obama restored a lot of the world's respect. And I believe that the world stage will welcome Hillary Clinton. The world stage would probably welcome Bernie also, but I give Clinton the upper hand in both the national and international process.

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's the way I'm leaning. I'm not a Bernie detractor by any means, but I just see Clinton carrying out the duties of the President of the United States better. I know all the disastrous Hillary shit people have pointed out, and I'm not OK with it. But I know I'm never going to get a political basket arranged with everything just the way I like it.

I also believe that more women are needed in all levels of government. A Clinton Presidency will facilitate this, far into the future.

[deerheadgal]

105. Agreed!

You beautifully expressed my feelings! Hoping we can get through this without tearing each other apart!

[KPN]

111. So you obviously think that Bernie doesn't

have "the strength, the will, and the abilities to keep [the GOP] in check." That Hillary's a better politician ("upper hand in both the national and international process&quot . Oh, and he's not a woman!

Well, on everything but the woman part, I respectfully disagree and, frankly, believe you are fooling yourself. Not to mention you seem unfazed by their economic policy differences.

Why Bernie for me? Because there is no more crucial issue than correcting our current economic structure. Socio-economics is the foundation of, well, everything. There is no greater issue facing our country right now. In that regard, Hillary's a status quo candidate at a time when our nation as we know it is at great risk. The GOP curcus act should be enough evidence for anyone to understand that.

[NBachers]

117. We both are involved, committed, and active in this.

I support and respect what you are doing, I also hope that you support and respect what I am doing, even if you don't agree with it. Let's keep moving on this and make things happen.

[MuseRider]

102. If only

others could have stated that rather than starting the taunting the moment he got in. If only.

Thank you. To you I can say congratulations and feel like you will gracefully take that without rubbing our noses in it. It irks me that I have been unkind at times. My adulting skills have been challenged this season.

I don't want to be ignoring people but I have ignored even people who were friends. Sad. One comment like yours tends to make a world of difference.

Thank you and congratulations. May the best candidate win. We are in for the convention.

[brooklynite]

14. Not at all...

Sorry to disappoint you.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

16. Well

we will have this conversation again in November.

[brooklynite]

22. I'll be at the Convention; maybe we can meet up...

[Rosa Luxemburg]

122. I will be too

[joshcryer]

15. I sent my delegates.

My job is done.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

19. This probably won't be over until May -- maybe June

...and to be honest, if it stays close, our race gets media attention. Otherwise, people forget we exist while the GOP marches toward a Trump nomination or a brokered convention.

[Stuckinthebush]

28. She's over 1500 tonight

It's almost over.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

35. True, but small, not-very-diverse states dominate the next month.

Sanders should do pretty decently until mid to late April when NY and a bunch of the Mid Atlantic states vote.

[Stuckinthebush]

37. The math doesn't work

It just isn't probable.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

50. I think we're talking crossed purposes

I agree Hillary will win -- I just think this will probably go until May. (June was probably overly optimistic). There are only 373 delegates in play between now and New York. Then 631 come in in the second half of April.

I'm going to guess a roughly 40% Hillary /60% Bernie split on the 373, followed by a roughly 60% Hillary/40% Bernie split on the 631. So that gets us to May with about 2030 delegates.

That's just my take -- your mileage may vary.

[Stuckinthebush]

55. Ok......

I'll give you the actual "end" in May. The reality is that given the math there is no visible path for a Sanders win so the realistic end is now.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

63. I'll buy that.

To me, worst case for Hillary is she wins the nomination on 6/7 (California and New Jersey)

[Beacool]

21. Please don't taunt people.

Most of us are trying real hard to stay civil and not gloat. We all need to be united in the fall. Hillary is more than a million votes ahead of Sanders and just added a lot more pledged delegates (no total count yet).

I have no doubt that, barring some unforeseen event, Hillary will be the nominee. That doesn't mean that Sanders shouldn't stay until the convention. It's up to him.

[MuseRider]

103. Thank you.

It IS possible to be happy about winning without gloating. I appreciate that.

[Beacool]

109. You're welcome.

The Golden Rule.......I didn't like it when I read the many gloating posts when Sanders did well in NH and MI. One has to be just as gracious when winning as in losing.

[MuseRider]

110. I agree

although I cannot be certain I held myself together. I don't even remember but the times I have been unkind bother me. For those my apologies. I think we all should do better. Still backing Bernie, still do not care for Hillary but we can disagree without being asses.

[Beacool]

116. Well said.......

[redstateblues]

66. Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators in Congress

To call her a Republican is an untrue smear. She may not be liberal enough for you but she is a Democrat. I am a lifelong Democrat and I know one when I see one.

[KPN]

73. Really? How so?

Me thinks you focus on social issues and ignore economic and "empire" issues.

[John Poet]

81. And then she became Secretary of State,

and her true neoconservative "regime change" colors shone through.

I don't have a huge problem with her Senate voting record,
other than giving Bush a big fat green light for the Iraq war,
but her record as SOS is much more instructive of the types
of things she may do if she becomes commander-in-chief.

On Libya, Afghanistan, Syria... she was the HAWK in this administration.

In Honduras, she helped to legitimize a right-wing coup government who illegally deposed the elected president, at the behest of right-wing Republican senators, no less-- a government which is now repressing and murdering its own people.

On foreign policy and as Secretary of State,
we may as well have had Dick Cheney running the office,
and little to choose between them.

If she becomes President, those "3 AM phone calls" will likely be placed
to Henry Kissinger and George W. Bush.

If you 'know a Democrat when you see one',
maybe you haven't looked close enough,
or maybe you're just blissfully ignorant of her neoconservative foreign policy proclivities.

Or, maybe you approve of a neoconservative war-hawk foreign policy for Democrats?

[vintx]

84. I wonder why I don't read more on this site about her role in what went on in Honduras.nt

[BeanMusical]

96. Another interesting picture:

[rhett o rick]

45. If you think it's time for her to think about Trump, maybe it's time to think about the

support of the Left. You know those of us that you've held in contempt. As far as being a true DEmocrat, Sanders was upholding Democratic principles while Clinton was helping REPUBLICANS sell their war.

[LibDemAlways]

88. Check out post #80. They don't give a flying fuck about

the left. They think the "great Democratic party" under DWS, election loser extraordinaire, is going to sweep to victory in November and bring lots of down ticket candidates along without our help.

Good luck with that.....they'll need it.

[KPN]

72. Can we please quit the "true democrat" bullshit?

It serves no useful purpose.

[Stuckinthebush]

26. We have no illusions you won't be

Meanwhile we will be working toward the GE win.

[rhett o rick]

46. Are you planning on continuing bashing the Left while working toward the GE win? Good luck. nm

[Stuckinthebush]

51. Oh, FFS

Yes, yes. That's what we will do. Bash the left. Damn left.

My gods I don't have the strength to put up with this silliness.

[stonecutter357]

107. +1

[yuiyoshida]

32. Tonight is a good night for that

brandy, I stashed,.. maybe it will help with this headache I have.

[Skwmom]

38. I think there are a lot of shoes left to fall....

[tritsofme]

40. A quixotic quest it would be. The race is over.

[Bradical79]

47. Hell, I'll be here through the general election and beyond

I'm not in the habit of falling in line and ignoring real issues with a candidate just because they have a D by their name.

[mvd]

52. It's not over and don't listen to anyone who says it is

MO = another virtual tie, though it would have been nice to win one. But Bernie should hang in there for the West Coast states, where he could do big margins. Depressing night though because I don't get the Hillary inspiration one bit. The choice is just so clear to me.

[redstateblues]

67. Feeling your pain. Sorry

[KPN]

75. You're not alone in that regard.

[asuhornets]

53. blah blah blah!!!!!n/t

[oasis]

58. Sweep today. Hang around, but you'd better be nice.

[Trust Buster]

59. First the debates will end, then the cameras will stop following Bernie and do on and so on.

[polly7]

65. Woot!

I'm glad to see this, Rosa! I've watched this from the beginning - Sanders came from nowhere with every odd possible stacked against him - and still being denied the media coverage that would ensure millions more would be able to actually see and compare his message. Clinton started with all the millionaire/billionaire backers, the non-stop media fawning and a famous surname she's been campaigning on. She started with everything - he started with nothing. She's winning states posters here said she'd blow out just by a hair. He's done all of this by using every ounce of energy he has to get people to know him and what he stands for - they are, and it takes time when you're all but blacked out of the MSM. He still has it ....... and her 'issues' are also getting more well known by the day. My fingers are crossed for you and I won't uncross them until the Convention and November (unless they fall off by then).

Good for you and all who believe in his message.

[KPN]

77. Nice post! Thanks.

Got a feeling Berners will be sticking with Bernie as long as he wants us. Bernie and Berners are making history ... and we will prevail, maybe not in 2016, but in the end.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

123. There's more than just the presidency

we need to shape Congress and we need to start now.

[JSup]

78. Not sorry

Not sorry to hear that at all; the squeaky wing gets the grease, if you will, and the Party moves closer to that wing via its agenda.

[misterhighwasted]

80. We really don't care. Not after Hillary's 5 State sweep tonight

There are some great sites we stay connected with, they represent Hillary's strength & the unity of our great Democratic Party & the work we do for down ticket candidates. The President's strength of accomplishment comes from the Senate & House .
Hillary contributes much to bring other Dems with her to DC.
That is the only way to end the RW gridlock in DC.

There's a lot we Hillary supporters do outside of this site to get the RW Koch purchased TeaParty out of power.

Enjoy DU.

[LibDemAlways]

85. Is that you DWS? Yep, the great Democratic Party has

done a bang up job at losing elections and turning Congress over to the Repukes. Make no mistake about it. Voters are wanting to shake things up, and you are pushing the status quo with a candidate less trusted and more reviled than any other. You don't care? Good luck with that attitude in November.

[misterhighwasted]

87. LOL

Thanks.
I'll proudly stand with the Democratic Party.
What's bernie done to get Dems elected so we could defeat the RW? Where was he in the mid-terms when the RW took the Senate & House?
I'll stand with the only Dem in the race who helps get other Dems elected.
What's bernie done in this election to help Dem campaigns?
Z e r o.
I take this candidate, thank you Hillary.
Nite all.

[Nailzberg]

94. Indeed.

[Cassiopeia]

86. Additionally, we won't speculate on assignation being a possible outcome.

We'll just fight to win it outright.

[lunamagica]

89. Not at all. I mean if he stays and pushes his ideas in a positive manner, then I don't mind

But if he keeps the negativity towards Hillary going, trying to weaken her for the GE, then yes, I would have a problem with that

[LisaM]

90. Except that's incorrect.

Why does this meme keep getting flogged? I was proud of Hillary for fighting to the end in 2008 and I would expect the same in this cycle. Please stop with this wrong assumption.

[AzDar]

91. All. The. WAY!! Bernie kicked ASS today... and the best is yet to come!

Feel The BERN!!!

[Garrett78]

92. I suspect Sanders will drop out before the convention.

My guess is Sanders will drop out on April 26th. Even Clinton dropped out in '08 in spite of that race being incredibly close. After tonight, Sanders probably won't do as well over the next 8 contests as planned. And then there's New York, Maryland, Pennsylvania.

[misterhighwasted]

98. Especially with the FEC wanting some answers on Fri the 17th

That could be a problem. Yikes

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/main/2016/3/14/bernie-sanders-potentially-illegal-campaign-contributions

[Demsrule86]

100. I hope you are right

Mathematically he can't win...and we need to work to take the House, Senate and Presidency...we need those courts.

[Garrett78]

108. While I agree that it's virtually impossible for him to win at this point...

...I think he can justify staying in the race a while longer. He could still do fairly well between now and New York. But after NY, MD and PA, I expect Clinton's lead to be overwhelming.

[Hekate]

93. Devastated, I tells ya, devastated.

[FreedomRain]

95. I expect him to stay in

Going all the way to the convention is smart even if the loss is a foregone conclusion, for many reasons. Here are some:

- Influence on Party platform statements.

- Insurance in case of some political or personal disaster to the front runner, at least we will have a nominee ready to go.

- Airtime for the candidate or cause for future and down-ticket contests.

- Airtime for the front runner of the party that they wouldn't have otherwise; having a foil would give the media a reason to give the frontrunner another chance to reach undecideds.

- Using up campaign donations in the manner best fitted to fulfill the implied contract with--and the intentions of--the donors.

And while tonight was a setback, that's only because he didn't clinch it yet, as many of us hoped.

[BeanMusical]

97. Kick and R

[Demsrule86]

99. sorry to hear that.

I am sorry to hear that indeed. I do not want to see Trump or Cruz become president. You only hurt the Democratic nominee by doing this. I am hoping that Bernie will think of the country and not his personal ambition and suspend his campaign. It is the right thing to do at this moment. As Obama said...it is the math people...delegate math.

[farleftlib]

101. Nope

But thanks for playing. Nobody is hurting anybody by standing proudly beside the candidate of their choice until the convention in Philadelphia this summer. It's only March and Sanders supporters are standing with him until the end. Personal ambition has nothing to do with it. Bernie's in it for us, not himself.

[Orrex]

106. Please do keep the conversation going, by all means!

It's healthy for the party, it helps to keep the discussion grounded, and it keeps the Democratic candidate in the media, when otherwise it would be Trump 24/7.

K/R

[Betty Karlson]

113. And they will change.

This fight has hardly begun.

[senz]

115. Absolutely. They're fighting for corporations. We're fighting for the people.

Our cause is democratic, inclusive, and central to the founding principles of America. Their cause is destructive to democracy and contemptuous of the people.

Of course we're staying with it. Of course.

[PonyUp]

118. Good for Bernie. After all, 'something might happen' as Hillary once said about Obama.

[thereismore]

119. Hahaha we are a thorn in their side just like Bernie is in Hillary's! nt

[bettyellen]

120. Bernie will tone down the accusations of corruption because he wants a place at the convention.