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(15,435 posts)
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:50 PM Mar 2016

Heard Sherrod Brown Was On Either MSNBC Or CNN This A.M. And

was talking about how Hillary has such a GREAT Trade Policy that she's adopted and that's why he's supporting her.

WELL about 30 minutes ago I heard on Thom Hartmann's Show that the "inside the beltway" as per "Goats For The Old Goats" that he's ACTUALLY being considered as a running mate for HILLARY! Wasn't Victoria Jones who said it, but the other woman he has on from there all the time. Can't remember her name, but she reports for them. THEY have some extremely good inside track news all the time.

So Now I See Why He's has gone all RAH, RAH for Hillary! Not that this stuff doesn't happen all the time... but I was fooled again! I thought he was one of the Good Democrats who stood with us! I knew he came out to support her early on, and was disturbed at that time, but TODAY OF ALL DAYS it's getting reported! Sheered Brown OF OHIO! Thanks DUDE... NOT!

WOW, guess this was PLANNED some time ago by The Clinton Machine! Roll out Sherrod Brown on Primary Day! I'm seeing RED like I've never seen it before.

Sherrod Brown, Howard Dean and so many more! No way I'll remain a Democrat after this election. Not only do I feel FORCED to vote for Hillary should she win the Primary, NOW I have to wade through crap like this from people I DID think would stand with us!

I've had it!

Sorry if this has been posted already... My head just exploded and my dislike for Hillary just grew so large I can't even put it into words!

Never in my life have I even considered leaving The Democratic Party until this election. Depending on what happens in November I'm OUT! You can attack me all you want, but I've been stabbed one too many times!!

Heard Sherrod Brown Was On Either MSNBC Or CNN This A.M. And (Original Post) ChiciB1 Mar 2016 OP
I think it's an election stunt Armstead Mar 2016 #1
Really? You Know I Don't Know WHAT To Think Anymore! ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #3
doesn't matter does it. The damage will already be done. pangaia Mar 2016 #8
He is my Senator. SamKnause Mar 2016 #2
I Live In Florida So My Day May Really SUCK Now! n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #4
I'm sorry. SamKnause Mar 2016 #7
You are not alone montanacowboy Mar 2016 #5
THe Deals are being made Ferd Berfel Mar 2016 #6
Maybe Just "A Little!" n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #9
"Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown Dismisses VP Speculation" Toledo Blade, March 15. Posted 2:09 PM ET appalachiablue Mar 2016 #31
Damn. Howler Mar 2016 #10
everyone has their price; that was my guess, too amborin Mar 2016 #11
Amborin, I love your icons !!! erlewyne Mar 2016 #13
feel free to use any or all of them! amborin Mar 2016 #15
So, Bernie fans are thowing another good Democrat under the Bernie Bus. whow riversedge Mar 2016 #12
He jumped under the bus ibegurpard Mar 2016 #16
He did not. I saw the program is morning. He spoke of Hillary's plan-- riversedge Mar 2016 #17
IF You Read My Post I TOLD You Where The Comment Came From! ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #19
"I feel FORCED to vote for Hillary." Blue_In_AK Mar 2016 #14
Doesn't Sherrod Brown mostly oppose free trade? democrattotheend Mar 2016 #18
He's angling for the VP slot. DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #20
No, he doesn't want to run as VP and his wife is completely against it. n/t OhioBlue Mar 2016 #24
Nobody ever says they are running for VP or even interested DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #25
I think I read Brown's daughter plans to run for some office.... Skwmom Mar 2016 #21
Know Nothing About That, But Could Be. n/t ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #22
She won a seat on the Columbus City Council last November. n/t OhioBlue Mar 2016 #28
Sherrod Brown, Al Franken, Barbara Boxer, Sheldon Whitehouse... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #23
Sherrod endorsed her a while ago. OhioBlue Mar 2016 #26
Oh Well, THIS Election Is Like NOTHING I've Ever Seen, AND I'm ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #27
I understand how you feel. OhioBlue Mar 2016 #29
He pleased dems but not progressives even though he made progressive promises snowy owl Mar 2016 #33
And A GREAT Book It Is... ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #34
Please watch this CSpan Book TV video snowy owl Mar 2016 #35
Thanks For The Link. Started Watching A Bit, But This A.M. ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #37
don't have to watch whole thing ... snowy owl Mar 2016 #41
Bernie has received major funding support and very high event turnout yet Clinton appalachiablue Mar 2016 #40
Keeping the status quo with never engender change. You have to risk some danger to get real change. snowy owl Mar 2016 #32
I Want To Answer About Continue To Working Question... ChiciB1 Mar 2016 #38
Politicians will always sell themselves out. Bernie-public servant. snowy owl Mar 2016 #30
So they got him to lie about trade to get her to win? jfern Mar 2016 #36
Shame on you. S. Brown frequently explained Hilllary's detailed economic riversedge Mar 2016 #39


(47,803 posts)
1. I think it's an election stunt
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:52 PM
Mar 2016

They'll choose some safe centrist when it comes time to really pick a VP


(15,435 posts)
3. Really? You Know I Don't Know WHAT To Think Anymore!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:54 PM
Mar 2016

Now I just saw a post that Bill is at polling places in OH. I guess Bernie was really going to pull this out, and NOW maybe, not so much!


(5,872 posts)
5. You are not alone
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

All the Dems I know have had it. We are fed up with the DNC, with DWS and now I see an article online where Slick Willy made a deal with Gingrich in 1987 to privatize SS and the only reason it fell through was because of his Lewinsky affair.

These people are a cancer on democracy and do not in any way belong in this party - or maybe I don't belong anymore. They achieve the same ends as the filthy repukes - what is the difference anymore?

Ferd Berfel

(3,687 posts)
6. THe Deals are being made
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 01:58 PM
Mar 2016

and he's just another Corporate insider jumping on the Corporatism band wagon.

It's an easy choice for some of these people because Bernie is not vindictive - the Clinton's reportedly are. SO there is little downside in supporting Hillary over Bernie.


(40,131 posts)
31. "Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown Dismisses VP Speculation" Toledo Blade, March 15. Posted 2:09 PM ET
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:39 PM
Mar 2016

As Ohioans head to the polls to vote in the presidential primary today, speculation is growing that Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown could be a running mate for the eventual Democratic nominee.

Mr. Brown, 63, the two-term senator from Cleveland, supports Hillary Clinton in the primary and according to a story posted on thehill.com today, he would complement the former secretary of state well. For his part, Brown is dismissing talk of his vice presidential potential.

In a written statement to The Blade he said ”“I do not want to be Vice President. I feel lucky to be Ohio’s Senator, and working for our state is the only job I want.” The Hill article highlighted Mr. Brown’s populist appeal, saying it would help Mrs. Clinton attract voters who tend to support candidates such as U.S. senators Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, who is her primary rival. Other observers also have recently noted Mr. Brown’s prospects as a vice presidential candidate.

Cleveland attorney James Robenalt, a presidential historian, and Kyle Kondik, of the University of Virginia Center for Politics, and author of The Bellwether: Why Ohio Picks the President, both told The Blade last week they believe Ohio Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown is a possible vice-presidential candidate this year. The Clinton campaign did not respond to requests for comment today on the vice presidential speculation.



(68,264 posts)
17. He did not. I saw the program is morning. He spoke of Hillary's plan--
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:39 PM
Mar 2016

which leads to Bernie fan outrage. so sad.


(15,435 posts)
19. IF You Read My Post I TOLD You Where The Comment Came From!
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:51 PM
Mar 2016

It was NOT on MSNBC, I don't watch that thing! It was on Thom Hartmann's Show. I'll have to go to FSTV to get the name of the person who said it. I was just reporting what was said from her who works for "Goats For The Old Goats!"

I never said he said it on MSNBC. I didn't even say it was MSNBC because I wasn't sure if it was CNN OR MSNBC. Read what I said. I'll check out her name at FSTV.

Not so sad, and NOT sour grapes!


(11,605 posts)
18. Doesn't Sherrod Brown mostly oppose free trade?
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 03:49 PM
Mar 2016

I know he is a Clinton supporter, but it is odd to see him defending her on an issue where his own views are much closer to Bernie's.

That said, of all the people she might pick as veeps he is one of the better ones.



(1,825 posts)
23. Sherrod Brown, Al Franken, Barbara Boxer, Sheldon Whitehouse...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:20 PM
Mar 2016

and others, they all disappoint me.


(5,126 posts)
26. Sherrod endorsed her a while ago.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 05:31 PM
Mar 2016

He and his wife are friends of the Clinton's. Connie talks about how welcome Hillary made her feel and good advice that she gave her. Sherrod's wife has been very, very pro-Hillary since before the '08 election. Sherrod didn't endorse in '08. His mother was still alive and I asked her which way the Senator was leaning. She only told me that she (Mrs. Brown) was for Obama, Sherrod's brother was for Obama, Sherrod's other brother was for Obama... this was all told to me with the most lady-like Georgian accent. I think the Senator was very much torn between the two.

He is closer to Senator Sanders on many things. He may have simply thought at the time that Hillary had the better resume, fundraising and machine to win. I think Bernie really caught a lot of dem pols by surprise with his success.

One thing to remember about these progressive dems that are endorsing Hillary, they've all fund raised for each other and campaigned together as being members of the dem party.

Sherrod is still a progressive Dem. I'm sure he will very much support Senator Sanders if he wins. However, Hillary has campaigned for him, probably donated toward his campaigns and Sherrod's wife is very emotionally invested in a Hillary presidency.


(15,435 posts)
27. Oh Well, THIS Election Is Like NOTHING I've Ever Seen, AND I'm
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 07:44 PM
Mar 2016

VERY much UPSET that This Democratic Party just has rolled over. Explain it how you will, but the reality for me is that a Hillary Presidency may do more damage than our so called LEADERS think!

I know what I'm going to do after this one and I can assure you I AM NOT ALONE. If anyone is thinking that it's only Repubs that are imploding they're just not paying attention. Bernie WOULD never have gotten this far and had so much support if THIS Party was in any way satisfied.

I've said it so many times these past 6 months... I will do the DIRTY deed and vote for her, but then I'm DONE. This isn't an idle threat and I've never been anything but a Democrat. Ever since the Viet Nam era.

I'm so very disgusted and I no longer trust this Democratic Party, it sickens me! I feel I've wasted too many years fighting for what I KNOW should be good for this country. I AM tired out this much I know. I know it sounds like I'm a quitter, but I've given them at least 45 years of my life and worked very hard.

I'll do what I need to do, not giving up on Bernie in any way, but when I see so many Democrats that I once felt were liberals, then started saying Progressive and NOW morphing into DLC/Third Way, it no longer represents me.

May the REVOLUTION rise up and fight back. I will be there for that, but for all these Democrats who I feel have left us down I no longer believe in where they want to take this Party.

Feeling like a worn out DISH RAG isn't how I want to feel and it most certainly isn't good for my health.

So we march on until November! GO BERNIE, I fight with YOU! It seems you've taken on the world and my admiration for you WILL never die. It ain't over yet!


(5,126 posts)
29. I understand how you feel.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:22 PM
Mar 2016

I had such hope after we elected Obama. I thought once he saved the economy and got us out of the wars, we would have a progressive resurrection. The dems had no idea how to counter the tea party and too many rolled over. We had too many run away from the President and a progressive agenda in 2010 and the establishment has only become more establishment.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
33. He pleased dems but not progressives even though he made progressive promises
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:46 PM
Mar 2016

Easy to understand. Bill Press wrote a whole book about it.


(15,435 posts)
34. And A GREAT Book It Is...
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 11:35 PM
Mar 2016

He was roundly criticized, but you know what? It's moved up to NUMBER SEVEN, most popular book. Can't recall which list, but the BIG ONE!

And there's another person who wrote a similar book and he was on the Bill's show last week. After Obama, knowing about the the meeting on the night he was inaugurated DECIDED to try and Compromise with the other side! My first indication of howe he was going to govern. Did he get some legislation passed, yes... but overall IMO he was never aggressive enough.

Today, I think it was on Watching The Hawks on RT, or Boom Bust one of those programs they talked about how Libya had failed as a foreign affairs effort. Some praise for Kerry, but overall apparently they were saying that France and another country were left out to dry. Obama was trying to save face and these countries weren't particularly happy.

It was commented that his foreign affairs policies haven't been very successful and that he should have consulted more with the Pentagon.

There's much more that I've learned from RT and FSTV because they actually REPORT real news that we need to hear. Joe Papantonio is a fountain of information and could probably fill a book about Hillary Clinton and the Obama Administration and deals that have been made, especially with Big Pharma. I've begun to see more reporters there that used to be on MSM and they DO REPORT. I don't know HOW Clinton won, she's very unpopular and so many who know the real stories about many deals say THIS COUNTRY is really headed in the wrong direction.

I now fear it's worse than I thought. I'm not giving up on Bernie, especially because I now listen to these other channels, but it's scary what we may be in store for.

I've been unable to wrap my head around Clinton's wins because of Bernie's popularity. His ability to raise so much money when needed. He actually has money on hand where Clinton does not. So many rallies with thousands of people ALL THE TIME and yet here we are. Did all these people not vote? People who contribute money and those thousands of people don't vote? How can this be? I know what these comments sound like, but it just doesn't add up for me. I know so, so many people here in my RED county who Bernie has attracted.

I knew FL wasn't going to take FL, 65% of the people voted absentee some time ago. Bernie held a rally in Tampa last week, he had 10,000 people there at the same time Hillary had 600 people attend in the same city! THIS has happened over and over and over and still she wins.

She tells outright lies that are proven within hours, and still she wins. It's mind boggling that she has such a low energy campaign going and her negatives are so high, and still she wins. I wonder if we'll ever find out how this can happen.

Yes, our Democratic Party has failed us over and over and there WILL be a backlash, I'm sure of it. Bernie has started a movement that's not going to go away. I've been happy to finally see this enthusiasm which has been gone for so many years.

I wonder how Hillary can win anything near the respect and trust people have felt with Bernie. I doubt it. She has the POWER BROKERS for sure and no matter what she's telling everyone in her speeches right now I'm sure they DO WANT a return on their dollars.

Heard something interesting about something the dictator Juan Peron of Argentina said once when talking about how to win. Said "you pick up a guitar with your left hand, but you play it with the right!" THAT'S HILLARY and that's what this man said about BOTH the Clintons. He said they're no difference between the two, they really are two for one and he was no fan of theirs.

Yep, strange how this is going. Shenanigans over and over... nothing sticks o them. Will they eventually implode? I think it may happen. Oh, and he also said they were VERY NIXONIAN! Scary indeed.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
35. Please watch this CSpan Book TV video
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:45 AM
Mar 2016

you only need to watch the panel - questions afterwards - except maybe one or two - aren't very interesting. But Ari Berman and John Nichols are very, very interesting. http://www.c-span.org/video/?406242-10/panel-discussion-politics I hope you can watch it. I think it requires a cable subscription. John Nichols considered this election a crucial one for a country at a crossroads economically and politically. I am very depressed.


(15,435 posts)
37. Thanks For The Link. Started Watching A Bit, But This A.M.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:26 AM
Mar 2016

I just can't watch it. I KNOW what's happened is so, so wrong and have been talking about reaching this point in America where you can almost feel some sort of DOOM approaching, and now it's gotten too close.

Not sure I'm fully prepared for what's to come. All we say will be looked upon as sore losers but that's just not it for me. I'm depressed no doubt but now my FEAR is what I'm feeling the most. I feel no hope, don't even know what to do at this moment.

Thanks for the link. Bumpy, bumpy ride ahead and I don't know where to turn.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
41. don't have to watch whole thing ...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:13 PM
Mar 2016

just scroll to parts where Ari and John are talking. I understand your pain. I feel it as well. But I will vote green. That's the least I can do to show progressives have a place to go. If only once they could get numbers that were really big it would scare the pants off the democrats. Now that would be an easy message.


(40,131 posts)
40. Bernie has received major funding support and very high event turnout yet Clinton
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:13 PM
Mar 2016

with many negatives and little enthusiasm received more votes. It doesn't add up to me either and is a bit discouraging to say the least.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
32. Keeping the status quo with never engender change. You have to risk some danger to get real change.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:45 PM
Mar 2016

Of course you'll go through this again and of course, when it doesn't work, you'll say the same thing as you wind down. Real change comes when people demand it without giving in. I will vote Green. The only thing the establishment will understand is when they see a third party actually pulling their votes away. Enough of us do that and we will make the change we desire.

I imagine like most, you'll continue to support the status quo out of fear.


(15,435 posts)
38. I Want To Answer About Continue To Working Question...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:35 AM
Mar 2016

NO, I won't continue to work, only for Bernie out of protest. But I can't support her, just can't do it. If it's going south then it's going south.

Building a new Party will take a lot of time and I agree a message MUST be sent. But I'm probably much older than you and I'm simply worn out. Not filling out an absentee ballot that automatically comes to my house can be done.

The Clintons WILL have so much power and they've shown they can put on a shiny veneer and sell the snake oil. They've been at it for all their lives. I detest them now more than ever. I know so many who feel the same way.

snowy owl

(2,145 posts)
30. Politicians will always sell themselves out. Bernie-public servant.
Tue Mar 15, 2016, 10:29 PM
Mar 2016

Bernie worked behind the scenes. Few appearances and little notoriety. Not a politician but a pubic servant.


(5,204 posts)
36. So they got him to lie about trade to get her to win?
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:49 AM
Mar 2016

So disappointing. The party needs to strop destroying itself to prop up Hillary.


(68,264 posts)
39. Shame on you. S. Brown frequently explained Hilllary's detailed economic
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 08:43 AM
Mar 2016

proposals. No lies. And folks in OHIO listened. Stop with the constant saying he and other surrogates are lying. It does you no good. Only makes you look silly. Ohio was won by a huge margin. Votes want to know HOW--the details of a plan. Bernie has not supplied details to his--shut down all trade meme.

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