Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:17 PM

hill2016 (1,772 posts)

Does Sanders want the superdelegates to support him even if he loses the pledged delegates count?

http://www.wsj.com/articles/sanders-puts-emphasis-on-delegate-math-1457913012

Mr. Sanders said he isn’t deterred, noting superdelegates are free to change their minds. They might do just that if they see him winning and come to believe he’s the best bet to defeat the Republican nominee—possibly Donald Trump—in the fall, he said.

In an appearance Sunday on CNN, Mr. Sanders said “if we do well in a number of states and if the general sentiment becomes that Bernie Sanders is the candidate who will defeat Donald Trump” superdelegates might “swing over” to his campaign.

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Does Sanders want the superdelegates to support him even if he loses the pledged delegates count? (Original post)	hill2016	Mar 2016	OP
Round #302 of the same old.	hobbit709	Mar 2016	#1
Duper delegates don't count at all.	Cheese Sandwich	Mar 2016	#2
question is do Sanders and his supporters give a shit if the party is toast?	hill2016	Mar 2016	#3
Nobody should even acknowledge super delegates. They have to special rights or authority.	Cheese Sandwich	Mar 2016	#4
In 2008 Clinton thought superdelegates should support her even though she was behind in pledged	PoliticAverse	Mar 2016	#5
but	hill2016	Mar 2016	#6
I don't know. Clinton was lobbying the superdelegates to switch to her but they didn't.	PoliticAverse	Mar 2016	#12
Bernie is clearly saying that if he wins a majority of the pledged delegates, the supers would turn	morningfog	Mar 2016	#7
I think, and i think we all know, that bernies plan is to......	Sivart	Mar 2016	#8
the desperation in the air at Camp Weathervane must be getting thick.	hobbit709	Mar 2016	#9
Stay tuned. All new material and news tomorrow.	morningfog	Mar 2016	#11
Which candidate has been counting superdelegates in totals from the start?	libtodeath	Mar 2016	#10

Response to hill2016 (Original post)

Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:21 PM

hobbit709 (41,694 posts)

1. Round #302 of the same old.

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Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:24 PM

Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)

2. Duper delegates don't count at all.

We're not supposed to respect their super authority in any way.

They shouldn't exist in the first place. If they reverse the results of the election the Democratic Party is toast for good.

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Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:25 PM

hill2016 (1,772 posts)

3. question is do Sanders and his supporters give a shit if the party is toast?

He is running an insurgent campaign after all...

I suspect a lot of them are happy to bern everything down ...

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Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:29 PM

Cheese Sandwich (9,086 posts)

4. Nobody should even acknowledge super delegates. They have to special rights or authority.

Their super votes don't count and they have no right to reverse the results of the election. If they ever do reverse the results then the people won't respect the result and there will be a mass exodus away from the Democratic Party.

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Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:31 PM

PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)

5. In 2008 Clinton thought superdelegates should support her even though she was behind in pledged

delegates.

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Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:32 PM

hill2016 (1,772 posts)

6. but

in the end she didn't contest the nomination and released her delegates.

Can you see Bernie doing that or will be try to lobby for super delegates to switch to him if he trails in the pledged delegates?

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Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:45 PM

PoliticAverse (26,366 posts)

12. I don't know. Clinton was lobbying the superdelegates to switch to her but they didn't.

Note that the Obama clinched the regular delegate victory on June 3rd, 2008 (and had many more superdelegates)
but Clinton didn't suspend her campaign until June 7th.

From: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4987177&page=1

For her part, Clinton refused to concede the race tonight.

"This has been a long campaign, and I will be making no decisions tonight," she told supporters in New York.

"In the coming days, I'll be consulting with supporters and party leaders to determine how to move forward with the best interests of our party and our country guiding my way," she said as supporters chanted "Denver, Denver!" pointing to the party's convention in August.

Clinton's campaign has indicated her willingness to challenge a Democratic Party ruling on Michigan and Florida's disputed delegates all the way to the Denver convention -- a drastic option that would delay the party uniting behind Obama.

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Mon Mar 14, 2016, 02:33 PM

morningfog (18,115 posts)