ANOTHER Hillary video surfaces. Robert Byrd.

[pinebox]

And yet, another video surfaces of Hillary.
This time she praises Robert Byrd.
Yes THAT Robert Byrd. Former KKK member and the only Senator to vote against both African American U.S. Supreme Court nominees (liberal Thurgood Marshall and conservative Clarence Thomas) and filibustering the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
More baggage than e-Bags.

&feature=youtu.be&list=PL5WHcd9u9Pm8Di1pE5QxWyZSlbZnrFUsk

[thereismore]

1. Sickly sweet. I can only dream of her eulogy for Kissinger. nt

[MADem]

2. Robert Byrd was the guy who shook the US CONSTITUTION in George W. Bush's face on a regular basis.

If you really want to bring up his racist past, for which he repeatedly atoned (and all his black staffers would tell you, if you wanted to hear them, he was sincere about), then knock yourself out.

Robert Byrd was an anti-Bush HERO here on DU. Of course, that was way before you arrived.

Here, read what your fellow DUers had to say about this guy you're hating on:




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?address=132x1633641&az=view_all

[sabrina 1]

27. I agree with you on this. Byrd was one of the most vocal anti Bush Dems during that era. His past

was brought up by the far right many times. He had long ago rejected it and atoned for it.

[blm]

88. RW narrative sticks to his KKK past. Note the implication BY the OP that Byrd

voted against Clarence Thomas because he was black.

[yardwork]

41. +1

[NWCorona]

56. I for one believe that you can be snatched from the deepest realms of your soul

And be redeemed.

I know enough about Bird's past and his work since to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Hillary gets a pass on this.

[Agschmid]

70. Yup.

[CountAllVotes]

128. You are god damned right!

and yes, may GOD BLESS Senator Robert Bryd from West Virginia!

May he RIP!!

[MattP]

3. Im for Bernie but this is stupid, Byrd endorsed Obama against Clinton and a vote against Thomas, WTF

this is beyond stupid, are you going to play the video of Obama praising him next

[deutsey]

99. +1

[Jitter65]

4. When you are finished throwing stuff at the HRC wall, maybe you will have time to study the facts.

http://thegrio.com/2010/06/28/the-evolution-of-robert-byrds-racial-politics/

It appears that no one except Bernie or one of his supported is permitted to evolve or change political and social opinions.

[sabrina 1]

32. I am a Bernie supporter and was also a supporter of Sen Byrd who should be lauded for his

transformation throughout his long life. He did much good for this country and worked hard to atone for his past. Please do not accuse all Bernie supporters of something some may do. I see most Bernie supporters in this thread rejecting the slam on Byrd.

[Duval]

49. Darn straight! I admired him for his transformation.

[hobbit709]

92. did you study the facts before your OP accusing Bernie supporters of misogyny?

[TheDormouse]

5. Byrd did a 180 over his career, and later deeply regretted his past racism

unlike, say, Strom Thurmond or Jesse Helms.

[Art_from_Ark]

118. He also gave a very impassioned speech against the Iraq War.

[monicaangela]

6. Yep, a good friend....like Goldwater I guess..

For your reading pleasure, a collection of obituary snow jobs:

From the 11th paragraph of the LA Times’ Byrd obituary: “Byrd was not always a champion of liberal causes. He had come of age as a member of the Ku Klux Klan and cast a “no” vote on the landmark Civil Rights Act of 1964 that prohibited discrimination against African Americans and others. He later renounced his actions in both cases and called his membership in the KKK ‘the worst mistake of my life.'”

ABC News noted that “despite his successful political track record, the Senate’s senior Democrat was no stranger to controversy and was once a member of the Ku Klux Klan,” as if calling for the extermination of dark-skinned peoples (as well as Jews, Catholics, and gays) was no more stirring a gaffe than Gary Hart’s monkey business.

MSNBC.com reported that “Byrd’s success on the national stage came despite a complicated history on racial matters. As a young man, we was a member of the Ku Klux Klan for a brief period, and he joined Southern Democrats in an unsuccessful filibuster against the landmark 1964 Civil Rights.” (The Ku Klux Klan no doubt objects to being called complicated, and has held since Day 1 one that there is nothing wishy-washy about castrations, lynching's or burning folks alive.)

CNN also gave Byrd a pass on his association with the early 20th-century homegrown terrorist movement, writing in the 20th paragraph of Byrd’s obituary that “He blamed ‘that Southern atmosphere in which I grew up, with all of its prejudices and its feelings,’ for his opposition to equal rights, which included joining the [domestic terrorist outfit] Ku Klux Klan in the 1940s.”

Of all the outlets that eulogized Byrd, only the Hill bothered to mention that a “young” Byrd not only joined the KKK, but also led his local chapter.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/28/sen-robert-byrd-not-only-was-a-kkk-member-but-led-his-local-klan-chapter/#ixzz42tmegrjm

[blm]

77. WTF? Now you're posting DailyCaller narrative against Byrd? This is RW BULLSHIT!!!

IMO, some of you are using this thread to out your REAL reasons for being here at DU and posing as Sanders supporters.

[monicaangela]

134. I believe

When the day comes when men who have served their sentence in jail are forgiven and allowed to vote...we can begin to think about forgiving Byrd fully. I admire the way he apologized for his mistakes as a leader of the KKK and all the horrible implications behind that. But again, if we can forgive him for those horrible mistakes...what about men and women who have paid for their mistakes and have rejoined society and still can't participate as a full citizen. Kind of a double standard if you ask me. I'm sure some of them have apologized for their past mistakes also, but to no avail. What about that?

[blm]

160. What I think is that you just scrambled to justify your use of RW propaganda.

.

[monicaangela]

164. What I think is

you have me confused with someone who would use RW propaganda to make a point. Notice the article, it has comments from the media. Just because it was posted by the daily caller doesn't make any of the comments any less true. You seem to be trying to paint everyone as a RW propagandist if they don't go along with your view of things. Get over yourself, these are opinions that are being posted, and my opinion is exactly that, not something that would be used by RW or LW propagandist.

[Luminous Animal]

7. You are not going to win any points with that one. I'd take this down if I were you.

[sabrina 1]

36. I agree. I supported Byrd against exactly this kind of attack. He lived his entire political life

trying to atone for his past and did much good for this country especially during the Bush era.

[blm]

161. Exactly - this is why some of the old guard DUers need to step up and denounce

the way this board is being manipulated and used by those intent on spreading RW propaganda here.

[Tanuki]

8. This OP is a disgrace. You want to see a Robert Byrd youtube, start right here. I am checking

myself so I don't get a hide, but you are really out of line.

[Duval]

53. I'll never forget when he did this!

At home, we cheered this eloquent speech.

[pinebox]

100. Oh am I?

So why is it that he should get a pass on his past yet Hillary is held accountable?
As I said in other replies, double standard much?

[Tanuki]

130. I agree with you that there is a great deal of hypocrisy around here in terms of how

Hillary is held to a harsher standard than just about anyone else. You'll get no argument from me on that account. I'm pleasantly surprised that you have finally acknowledged this.

[JTFrog]

9. Once again, we see your true colors.

I'm glad that a couple actual Bernie supporters are taking you to task for your ridiculous shit.

[zappaman]

102. yup.

[UglyGreed]

10. Did Hillary take this photo???

[MADem]

38. That was a Governor's Association meeting hosted by GHWB. Every US governor was there.

Including GOVERNORS Clinton and Wallace.

How low WILL you go?

[UglyGreed]

44. LOL

not as low as some who WILL DEFEND a DISTORTION of history or straight out LIES.....

[MADem]

46. You're endorsing this thread? Why am I not surprised. nt

[UglyGreed]

48. I'm not surprised

that you did not answer my question.....who took the photo?

[MADem]

54. Are you incapable of using the tools that Google gives you? You can find that out for yourself.

http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/george-wallace/13/

Since you're having trouble, it's the intellectual property of AP, and was first published in the Birmingham (AL) Post.

Happy now?

Sea lions....

smh!!!

[UglyGreed]

55. Oh well we all makes

mistakes, this will error will follow me to my grave.......

[MADem]

57. Sea lions. nt

[UglyGreed]

60. Are you incapable of

not being so condescending???? Not the first time I've seen this type of reply on your behalf....

[UglyGreed]

60. Are incapable of

not being so condescending???? Not the first time I've seen this type of reply on your behalf....

[UglyGreed]

50. BTW I don't condone hobnobbing with racists

sorry. Some people hide their true beliefs for political reasons...........it happens all the time.

[MADem]

59. Sea lions. nt

[UglyGreed]

62. .

[longship]

154. Here MADem. Context may help you.

My best.

[MADem]

156. I know. nt

[Bucky]

63. Oh my god, it's a US president visiting a Governors' Association meeting! CONSPIRACY!!

Seriously, a barbecue social photograph is your proof of exactly what, exactly?

[UglyGreed]

66. Well what I have learned about

Wallace and then Bill Clinton may of encouraged Trump to run makes me wonder why even associate with these fellas...... Even Rachel Maddow sees the similarities in Trump and Wallace.....

[Bucky]

76. Wallace too reversed on his racism when he ran for his last term as governor in the 80s

You're not just clutching at straws, you're ignoring the public record.

Look, I get it. You support Bernie. So do I. I expect he'll win the nomination, at which point we will need those same Clinton supporters whom YOU, for God knows what reason, are trying to piss off.

Wouldn't your time be better spent volunteering at a phone back for Bernie instead of making fallacious arguments and repeating Republican slurs? I'm going down to Bernie HQ here in Houston tonight to help man the phones. What are you doing, other than distorting the opinions of Democrats and trying to divide the party? We're trying to build a barn here, Mr. "Uglygreed", so quit playing with matches and pick up a damned hammer.

[UglyGreed]

86. You know what

Mr "Bucky" you could of just ignored the post instead of jumping on your high horse..... Maybe you should head there now and help the cause instead of belittle others???? BTW people change their tune to help their OWN bank accounts.............especially in politics "Bucko"

[Bucky]

87. So you post in a public forum and expect no one to counter your distortions?

I think I have as much right to post arguments in a public discussion as you do. You're just mad cause I'm right. I get there a 4:30pm local time. Will you go volunteer to support our candidate too?

[UglyGreed]

95. What distortions????

Wallace was a racist, so was Byrd and Bill Clinton chatted with Trump ..... you are just mad because my screen name is UglyGreed............ BTW I'm disabled after having shunt surgery, three back and neck surgeries which now has caused me to have 12 herniated discs, neuropathic pain and lost a good part of my hearing after the shunt surgery. Not sure if I would be too helpful to the cause but my wife did donate even though we are on a limited budget since we do not get any help or benefits for my total disability....... Do you have any other suggestions my dear friend Mr Bucky????

[MADem]

96. We are on different sides of the primary battle, but my hat is off to you.

Thank you for speaking truth, here. This is Democratic Underground, not a place where racist themes are bandied about for sport.

[MADem]

94. Funny how we're seeing all these "racist" memes here.

I'd expect to see this kind of thing at Free Republic to "prove" that "Democrats are racists!!1!!!" or something, but not here.

It's obvious that the Gotcha poster of that pic didn't realize that Wallace was another of those DEEPLY repenting former racists who apologized PROFUSELY for his horrific conduct. He not only apologized directly to civil rights leaders, he went to black churches and apologized and asked for forgiveness for his transgressions.

In fact, he won his last term with the very significant aid of the mature, merciful, and oh-so-forgiving black vote.

Of course, you would have to know history to know this. I suspect that purveyors of the Gotcha Memes don't.

[George II]

133. Do you know the context of that photograph?

[UglyGreed]

135. Concentrate on the issues

it was directed to the OP as a joke and of course the Hillary Supporters jump on it like red meat. Even a "Bernie" supporter had to act all righteous about a stupid picture..... Worry about your candidate praising the Reagans and lying about votes and whatever else she is trying to push as the truth.......

[George II]

138. Of course you didn't say it was a "joke" before you were asked for context. We've seen....

....that photograph a number of times here as a smear of Bill Clinton.

As for the "issues", Hillary Clinton "praising the Reagans" was measured and misunderstood AND misrepresented.

Finally, we could/should point out Sanders' lies about votes (even debate moderators have pointed some out) but we can't because it would mean a hidden post in a New York minute.

More context to ponder.

[UglyGreed]

157. I would worry about

Bill Clinton encouraging Trump to run...........

[yodermon]

11. Bernie supporter here. Please don't go there. Nt.

[demmiblue]

12. Unrec. n/t

[ms liberty]

13. This Bernie supporter disapproves

Sen. Byrd was a good man who apologized and worked to atone for his past. He was a loyal democrat and stood up for democrats and democratic policies. Trashing him just to trash Hillary doesn't cut it.

[NV Whino]

14. Byrd did an about face and genuinely regretted his earlier racism.

You need to study a little history before you bash someone.

[pinebox]

35. Sort of like how

Hillary regrets her support of DOMA & DADT yet Byrd gets a past & she doesn't? I dislike Hillary but I'm sensing a double standard.

[NV Whino]

51. Well, Hill flips and flops so much, one is never quite sure where she stands on any day.

[Snotcicles]

15. You should not stoop to the oppositions level. I think you should delete this one. nt

[Vattel]

16. I love Bernie, but this criticism of Clinton is misguided.

[G_j]

17. fail, I'm A Bernie supporter who remembers

Byrd's evolution, and tireless opposition to Bush's criminal war enterprise. People here even had flowers delivered to him on the floor, I believe.

[pinebox]

103. Right

So let's give this guy the pass while we slam Hillary over her support of DOMA, DADT, TPP, everything she has come around on.
Got it. Legit.

[jillan]

18. Bernie supporter asking you to delete this. Byrd did start out as white supremacist BUT he changed.

He was a good man that spoke out very loudly against his earlier beliefs.

I guess you can say he evolved but he did it in his heart and not for political reasons.

[Marr]

19. Byrd was no villain. /nt

[pinebox]

104. No villain? Filibustering the CRA is ok?

[Marr]

115. As has been mentioned repeatedly in this thread already...

he sincerely apologized that for that in the years that followed and, I think, atoned for it. You're throwing mud at a man who doesn't deserve it, just so a little might splatter on Hillary Clinton.

I'm no fan of Hillary Clinton, but I'm even less a fan of deceitful arguments and the cynical exploitation of racism. I mean seriously-- you suggest that voting against Clarence Thomas was racist? Seriously?

[pinebox]

119. Uhhhh

Sorry but I find it incredibly hypocritical as I've said that we let this go with him and yet we don't with Hillary.
As far as Clarence Thomas goes, I copied and pasted Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan_members_in_United_States_politics

[blm]

131. Baloney. You post anti-Hillary stuff ALL THE TIME. Now you change

your tune a bit here and there to claim you're only pointing out DU's hypocrisy in regard to Hillary?

I think this is more a matter of you flailing around because you're getting called out by REAL Bernie Sanders supporters for promoting a RW narrative.

All you did was expose yourself and your likeminded pals.

[pinebox]

24. Yeah I'm an idiot sure dude

And yet why is it we continue to let past transgressions of politicians pass? Hm? We brush things under the rug constantly and for what? We let our politicians get away with all sorts of junk & we pat them on the back and say "it will be ok".

The guy filibustered the Civil Rights Act ffs.


You want to let that slide then you go right ahead.

[ljm2002]

21. Byrd came around...

...later than any of us would have liked, of course. But he was one of the few with the courage to vocally and loudly stand up to GWB.

So no, as a Bernie supporter, I will not recommend nor support this post.

[pinebox]

25. So why is it

Byrd gets a pass but Hillary doesn't when it comes to her past and things like TPP, KXL, DOMA, DADT?

[Luminous Animal]

30. Because Hillary has done nothing to atone for any of that. Byrd did and ended up

with a 100% rating from the NAACP and became a staunch advocate for civil rights.

[pinebox]

39. And yet

Hillary is supported by the Human Rights Campaign?
I can't stand her but I'm calling out a double standard right here right now.

[Luminous Animal]

43. From my point of view, Hillary, especially at state, advanced

rights for members of the LBGT community.

What I do not find satisfactory is the fact that she still defends DOMA and DADT.

[ljm2002]

123. Er, because Byrd is not running for President?

Look: Hillary right now is supporting someone who has an A+ rating with the NRA, contrary to her often professed beliefs that are strongly for gun control. And I think that is a minor issue, at best, so I give her the same kind of pass on that issue -- we are talking about someone else's positions, not hers, and there are often good reasons to support a less-than-perfect candidate (I don't know anything about that particular race and am speaking generally about how I reason these things out).

So, Bernie gets a pass on the Byrd thing from way back when, and Hillary gets a pass on the NRA A+ candidate support from right now.

[Tanuki]

22. What next, a video of her praising Ted Kennedy, followed by the usual right wing litany

of outrage against details of his past? That someone would post this thread on DU is really sad. We used to be better than this.

[pinebox]

106. Nawww more like this

Bernie going after Clinton's welfare reform, something Hillary propped up & supported XD

&feature=youtu.be

[pdsimdars]

23. She needs to stay away from commenting on the deceased.

[Bucky]

26. Calling out Byrd for his KKK background requires us to ignore history & embrace RW talking pts

It's a dead give-a-way for someone who's swallowed Republican propaganda

[merrily]

37. Calling him out for his KKK acts is different from condemning his entire life because of them.

It's fine to say he was heinous to join the KKK, but not to say he is worthless as a human being because he he once joined the KKK.

[pinebox]

40. Yes or no question

Was he a Dixiecrat or not?

[Bucky]

52. Of course. We know that. My turn: Did he end up w/a 100% rating by the NAACP or not?

Here... to the research yourself and then get back to me on it.

http://www.naacp.org/programs/bureau-dc/report_card/108th_Congressional_Report_Card.pdf

http://thegrio.com/2010/06/28/the-evolution-of-robert-byrds-racial-politics/

Seriously, didn't some Trump spokesman on CNN recently get ridiculed around DU for ignoring the progressive evolution of the Democratic Party after the 1960s? Why would you repeat the same silliness?

[blm]

89. Perhaps his paycheck relies on spreading RW narratives?

.

[pinebox]

107. Did Hillary end up being supported by the HRC?

Yes or no?

So let me get this straight, you think we should let the past slide away on Byrd while we hold Hillary accountable for her past transgression.
Hypocrisy much?

History is silly? Sorry but I don't find filibustering the Civil Rights Act hilarious.
In fact I find it disgusting.

[pinebox]

109. History has a RW lean now?

Is that the new meme now?
Facts are FACTS. Period

[Bucky]

129. Sigh. I don't enjoy you being deliberately obtuse. Your "lean" is ignoring half of his career.

Facts are facts, true. But what you're doing is arguing using only half the facts. THAT is the right wing lean going on here.

[BainsBane]

28. Not too long ago, a video of Byrd was used to attack Hillary

at that time Byrd was defended. Some in fact insisted any efforts to point to his less than noble past smacked of "desperation." Now the tune has changed. I've got a bad case of whiplash from trying to keep up with the changing justifications.

[merrily]

34. Dark side Jedi mind game attempt? Byrd is being defended on this thread.

[BainsBane]

42. My comment is to the OP and about the OP

and it directly relates. It's clear point is that Clinton says something positive about Byrd, which is supposed to provide evidence that she is unfit to serve as president.

That you and some others since decided to speak up for Byrd in no way detracts from the fact that there is no issue too petty or cause too malleable that it isn't twisted and contorted in furtherance of personality politics.

[merrily]

47. Your post did not read that way at all. I repeat, Byrd is being defended on this thread.

[merrily]

31. IMO, Byrd repented and did good things afterward, even if they were unpopular in his state.

Yes, what he did initially was beyond heinous. We can condemn him for his past. But he did what he could to make up for it.

Except for the Byrd rule. I hate the Byrd rule, mostly because it's too dense to read.

[myrna minx]

33. DUers send Senator Byrd flowers for standing up against the Bush War machine in 2002.

He tried to atone for his past and tried to do the right thing in his later years. I can't stand by this criticism at all.

[blm]

65. Only RWers push to define Byrd ONLY by his past. And you tossing in the Clarence Thomas

bit as if he ONLY voted against Thomas because he is black is UTTER HORSESHIT.

[myrna minx]

68. I think you meant to respond to someone else?

[blm]

71. ooops….sorry, myrna. This is directed at OP.

My blood boils when I see RW narratives being pushed here at DU.

[myrna minx]

72. I agree - this post of over the top.

I support Bernie, but posts like this makes me cringe. We're better than this.

[Skwmom]

45. Senator Byrd is not the problem. n/t

[blm]

58. Only RW Republican know-nothings attack Robert Byrd like this. TAKE THIS DOWN!

Damn it, DU!!! What the FvCK is going on here that so much RW propaganda and RW narratives are now a staple on these boards?

I implore my fellow Sanders supporters to STEP IN and PUT YOUR FOOT DOWN.

DU is SO much better than this. At least, it USED to be.

[demmiblue]

64. A lot of us have.

This is embarrassing, to say the least.

[blm]

69. IMO, people are beginning to out themselves as GOP operatives

posing as lefties. No real lefty would parrot RW talking points like this.

[MADem]

74. This thread needs music....

[demmiblue]

85. Yep... I even saw one poster who put forth findings from Project Veritas to smear one of our own.

Yes, the far right-wing organization started by this smarmy dude:



It is getting crazy here.

[Justice]

67. Jury results of an Alert on this OP were 3-4 to Leave It.

A sad day when DU is full of misleading OP's like this one and people vote to leave it.

[blm]

73. Because this board is now FULL of GOP operatives pushing their RW talking points

and getting away with it because of juries filled with their kind.

No one on the true left would push this RW smear talking point.

[Bucky]

79. No, silly

it's delusional to think there's a massive communist conspiracy... oops I mean GOP conspiracy to infiltrate a fucking discussion board. Seriously, get some perspective.

[FSogol]

105. +1. Totally agree. n/t

[Agschmid]

81. Yup.

[Kelvin Mace]

75. That would the the same Byrd who repented his racist ways

So I don't hold that against her.

[blm]

82. Kelvin - Don't miss the gem tossed in implying Byrd ONLY voted against Thomas because

he was black.

This is RW horseshit. No lefty would bring it here to a Dem board unless they were trying to force acceptance of their horseshit narrative here.

[Kelvin Mace]

84. I agree,

I am sorry this was not hidden.

[NCTraveler]

78. Didn't you recently trash Clinton for her vote on the Byrd Amendment?

Since we both know the answer to that is yes, can you tell us what you thought of the Byrd Amendment? Trash her when she speaks well of him, trash her when she doesn't vote for his amendment.

Byrd also kicks ass. He represents the possibility that resides within all of us.

You really should delete your op.

[G_j]

80. I'd like add one more request to delete this

Byrd was at the forefront of opposing Bush and Cheney's war. His story is long, but one of ultimate redemption, a concept most compassionate progressive people embrace to some extent. I implore you to rethink your post. It's not productive to anyone's cause here.

[Agschmid]

83. Unrec.

[840high]

90. I posted about Byrd last

week and jury hid my post. Be careful.

[oasis]

112. Leave this up as a reminder of the growing desperation.

[MelungeonWoman]

91. Pinebox, delete this crap.

[Arkana]

93. Byrd repented for his racist past and did a lot to try and undo the damage he did.

I may support Bernie, but this is ridiculous. Find something else to criticize Hillary for.

[olddots]

97. another Bernie supporter saying please don't go there

EOM

[zappaman]

98. Judging from the replies, this didn't really go the way you thought it would, did it?

[FSogol]

101. Shouldn't everyone have voted against Clarence Thomas?

[blm]

132. Heheh….yep….like we weren't supposed to notice how he worded that one.

; )

[ucrdem]

108. Yesterday it was Howard Dean, today its Robert Byrd.

Does anyone see a pattern here?

[pinebox]

110. Howard Dean sold his soul to lobbyists.

[ucrdem]

113. Sir or madam he's a Democrat and it's election season.

And we really, really can't lose this one. Try to remember that.

[pinebox]

116. Right so that's an excuse for selling out? "It's election season!"

Sorry but he owns it.

https://theintercept.com/2016/01/14/howard-dean-lobbyist/
https://theintercept.com/2016/01/21/howard-dean-despite-denials-has-long-sad-history-of-selling-himself-on-k-street/
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/1/14/1470083/-Howard-Dean-corporate-lobbyist-opposing-single-payer
http://swampland.time.com/2013/07/30/howard-dean-defends-his-work-for-lobbying-firm-after-backlash/

He's taken a cue from Hillary alright; lying.

[Todays_Illusion]

111. OP, this is a conservative attack point. Robert Byrd never stopped apologizing for what he had once

been. I saw dozens and dozens of interviews and he was always asked and he always very politely re-explained. I would never have had that patience. He did, he would make a new apology and explain and wait for the interview to continue to the current topic.

[jberryhill]

114. Pretty dumb OP

Byrd repented and flew right years ago, and was one of our best fighters in the Senate.

As mentioned above, only RW nutjobs stay stuck in 1960 on his background and career.

[pinebox]

121. What I find dumb

is the double standard.
Why do we sweep Byrd under the rug while Hillary isn't allowed to?
Shoot straight or don't shoot at all.

[jberryhill]

124. Well, I'm sorry you can't see a distinction between the two

By the time Byrd passed away, he had a solid and consistent decades-long record on civil rights indicating a clear break with the follies of his youth.

With Clinton, we are talking about eight years in the senate and four as SoS with zigs and zags all along.

[G_j]

126. +1

[mythology]

117. This is pathetic. Just utterly pathetic.

Fortunately very few people are in agreement with you.

[actslikeacarrot]

122. I think I know what you are going for....

...and I agree with what you are saying. I'm glad Byrd changed his ways. But at the same time I don't think he should have been a senator. Just like with Clinton, I am glad she evolved on many issues but I don't think she should be president.

[laruemtt]

125. Her eyes look evil.

[zappaman]

127. Oh, is this still up?

[rhett o rick]

136. LOL. And you can't even blame me. But I want you to tell the guys that I

appreciate that they've backed off the alerts now that I am taking a much needed break from hosting. Kinda sad you had to call in the Admins.

[zappaman]

139. Paranoid much, Rick?

Didn't alert and wasn't on the jury.
Not sure why you always blame me when that hide proves there are at least 8 other DUers tired of your nonsense.
I like to be upfront with you.

[zappaman]

143. Whatever, Rick.

Sad to see you've apparently learned nothing from your 7-0 hide.
I guess self reflection is not your strong suit.

[zappaman]

145. Sure, Rick.

Sure.

[rhett o rick]

159. Your attempts at ridicule are childish. Best way to deal with this behavior is to ignoe.

Go find someone else to ridicule.

[zappaman]

163. Why did you delete your replies about how

Me and apparently other DUers are in cahoots with the administration to silence you?
It was amusing!

[TexasTowelie]

149. Yes, I have one of those administrators on my speed dial:

1-800-SKINNER.



I heard that he shares the same office space as 1-800-HILLARY.

[zappaman]

150. Have you tried

1-800-OLIGARCHY?

[TexasTowelie]

153. I kept it simple and texted the four letter code

TPTB

[rhett o rick]

158. Well look who showed up. I have the feeling you are never very far away. Curious, are you

assigned to be my "friend"? Also curious, do guys ever discuss issues? Rhetorical.

[AmBlue]

137. Another Bernie supporter....

I do not agree with this... And I'd be willing to bet Bernie wouldn't either.

[democrattotheend]

140. Another Sanders supporter who disagrees with this post

Robert Byrd may have made mistakes early on, but he clearly came around on race during his career and was a great senator in other ways, such as leading the fight against the Iraq War.

BTW, a lot of Democrats opposed Clarence Thomas. I certainly would have!

[blm]

162. RW propagandists are the ones spreading attack on Byrd that he ONLY opposed Thomas

because he was black.

See, it fits into their other narrative that it is the Dem party that is racist, not the GOP.

[brooklynite]

142. So, it would be wrong to be quoted as supporting Elizabeth Warren?

Former Reagan Republican?

Pleas help; I'm trying to follow along.

[AgingAmerican]

146. Robert Byrd renounced his racist past and became a decent Democrat in later years

[JI7]

147. i think you should delete this

[Beacool]

148. Just another petty and inconsequential scraping the bottom of the barrel post.

Then again, that's par for the course on this board.

[still_one]

152. A video of Bernie demonstrating how calm and collected he is

One has to wonder if that was Hillary what some here would say?

I think Helen Stickler describes exactly how it works:

Bernie: I think America should get a pony.

Hillary: How will you pay for the pony? Where will the pony come from? How will you getCongress to agree to the pony?

Bernie: Hillary thinks America doesn't deserve a pony

Hillary: Actually, I love ponies

Bernie Supporters: She changed her position on ponies! #WhichHillary #WitchHillary

Headline: HILLARY REFUSES TO GIVE EVERY AMERICAN A PONY

Debate Moderator: Hillary, how do you feel when people say you lie about ponies?

US Uncut Headline: Congressional Inquiry into Clinton's pony Lies

Twitter trending: #ponygate

[NanceGreggs]

155. There's always that ...

... One. Step. Too. Far.

And then everyone suddenly realizes what the agenda was all along.

Looks like you just took that one step ...

[RufusTFirefly]

165. Can't support this. Byrd worked hard to atone for his past sins.

Not only his racist past, but also his fateful vote for the Gulf of Tonkin resolution.

That's why, unlike Hillary Clinton, he spoke out passionately and repeatedly against the Iraq War Resolution.