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Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:50 PM

 

Hillary Clinton is FOR the Death Penalty! That's not very progressive.

This is just a list of people EXONERATED by new evidence since the year 2000, after serving years, decades, some of them half their lives!

* Earl Washington, Jr., Virginia (pardoned). Convicted 1994
* Juan Roberto Melendez-Colon, Florida. Convicted 1984.
* Ray Krone, Arizona (State v. Krone, 897 P.2d 621 (Ariz. 1995) (en banc)). Convicted 1992.
* Nicholas Yarris, Pennsylvania Convicted 1982.
* John Thompson, Louisiana. Convicted 1985.
* Alan Gell, North Carolina. Convicted 1995.
* Glen Edward Chapman, North Carolina. Convicted 1995. ]
* Levon "Bo" Jones, North Carolina. Convicted 1993.
* Michael Blair, Texas. Convicted 1994.
* Nathson Fields, Illinois. Convicted 1986.
* Paul House, Tennessee. Convicted 1986.
* Daniel Wade Moore, Alabama. Convicted 2002.
* Ronald Kitchen, Illinois. Convicted 1988.
* Michael Toney, Texas. Convicted 1999.
* Joe D'Ambrosio, Ohio. Convicted 1989.
* Anthony Graves, Texas. Convicted 1994.
* Gussie Vann, Tennessee. Convicted 1984
* Damon Thibodeaux, Louisiana. Convicted 1997.
* Seth Penalver, Florida. Convicted 1994.
* Reginald Griffin, Missouri. Convicted 1983.
* Glenn Ford, Louisiana. Convicted 1984.
* Carl Dausch, Florida. Convicted 2011.
* Henry Lee McCollum and Leon Brown, North Carolina. Convicted 1984.
* Ricky Jackson and Wiley Bridgeman, Ohio. Convicted 1975.
* Kwame Ajamu (formerly Ronnie Bridgeman), Ohio. Convicted 1975.
* Debra Milke, Arizona. Convicted 1990.
* Anthony Ray Hinton, Alabama. Convicted 1985.
* Willie Manning, Mississippi. Convicted 1996.
* Alfred Brown, Texas. Convicted 2005.
* Lawrence William Lee, Georgia. Convicted 1987.
* Derral Wayne Hodgkins, Florida. Convicted 2013.
* William Antunes, Massachusetts. Convicted 1990.


This list doesn't include the people that were executed, and found to be innocent after the fact. Nor does it list the people that were executed that we will never really know if they too were wrongly killed.

But Hillary says the issue is "complex". How can her reasoning that we keep the death penalty be any more "complex" than the government sanctioned murder of innocent men and women?

I wonder what HRC supporters think about this 'complex issue"?
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Reply Hillary Clinton is FOR the Death Penalty! That's not very progressive. (Original post)
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 OP
Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #1
Stallion Mar 2016 #2
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #4
Stallion Mar 2016 #5
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #6
Stallion Mar 2016 #7
Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #8
mwooldri Mar 2016 #3

Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 03:55 PM

1. This isn't one of those Kindly, Caring, Abuelita posts is it? K&R

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:00 PM

2. I'm for the Death Penalty But It Would Be Rare Under Changes to the Process

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Response to Stallion (Reply #2)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:08 PM

4. So you mean you are against it as it is used today?

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:20 PM

5. Yes-I Think the States Especially My Home State Texas Have Expanded

the Death Penalty to way to many cases where it shouldn't be applicable. Prosecutors have been overzealous in seeking Death penalty cases. I don't trust state/county prosecutors to use the proper discretion. But there are cases such as mass murder and terrorist activity that I support the Death Penalty. The most important change would be to insure top quality defense representation at the Trial Court level for any Defendant subject to the Death Penalty

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Response to Stallion (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:24 PM

6. Then you should change your vote

 

because you don't support the death penalty. You support something similar, if it could be changed, but there is no evidence of anything about to change that I can see.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #6)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:27 PM

7. Poll Was Poorly Phrased

it simply gave me the choice of Death Penalty or no Death Penalty

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Response to Stallion (Reply #7)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 05:01 PM

8. You're right.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Original post)

Sun Mar 13, 2016, 04:08 PM

3. I don't get the death penalty.

Maybe for a small handful of people it would be more humane.... but in the vast majority of cases life without parole is worse. Plus when there's a miscarriage of justice a living person can be set free; we're not God and we can't raise the dead.

Plus from a religious point of view: what part of "thou shalt not kill" isn't understood?

If we are in a civilised society we need to have an effective corrections system and locking away lots of people for a very long time for doing so little harm is part of the problem. Killing murderers is also problematic. The death penalty doesn't have a place in a civilised society.

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