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Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:04 PM

 

So, we HATE Hillary. Without Bernie, we would support Trump.

We have forsaken our mothers. We will burn in a special place in Hell.

We are liars. We are misogynists. We are ignorant. We are stupid.

Threads expressing these thoughts are currently on the Greatest Page.

Now, let's talk about the the nasty things the Bernie folk say:

Hillary is a LIAR. She is a bought and paid for corporate shill. She is not trusted by the majority of the electorate. The Republicans hate her with a passion that will increase turnout for their side. She made bad decisions while in the Senate. She voted for the Bush invasion of Iraq on flimsy evidence. She pushed for NAFTA. She pushed for welfare reform. She was not a leader in support of LGBT rights, and only jumped on board when others had done the heavy lifting. She is trying to back pedal and negotiate on abortion rights. She waffles on issues like fracking depending on her audience. She is under investigation by the FBI and actually had to be asked how she would respond to a potential criminal indictment. She is cheating and the DNC is not being impartial. She is unelectable. We don't want her as president.

And when it comes to her supporters, the accusations of "delusional" and "willfully blind" mingle with the accusations of cult-like behavior based on her hypnotic stares and curling lips or some such whatever.

Let us assume, for the sake of argument, both sides are telling the TRUTH. Bernie supporters HATE Hillary. Republicans ALSO hate Hillary.

Who the HELL do you think is going to vote for her? All of the hell bound misogynistic poopy pants Hillary Haters? According to the admins, it is a four-to-one ratio of Bernie vs. Hillary love on this site, and out in the real world, thus far Trump, Cruz and Rubio have more committed voters than Bernie and Hillary combined.

If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, I am telling you plainly, Hillary's record HAS NOT EARNED THIS RUST BELT RESIDENT'S VOTE, and that is totally separate from my issues with putting Bill back in the White House.

We will be coming off a very successful Obama presidency. Voters like to switch things up and a Trump presidency is possible. I am not convinced EITHER Hillary or Bernie can take that man down in a debate. (Yeah, I said it.) He is a REALITY TELEVISION STAR and more people have watched those heavily edited "he's a smart business guy" fictions with OTHER celebrities than have EVER watched a REAL TIME political debate. They call him ratings gold on television, talk about him nonstop, and that is all free advertising.

If you REALLY believe your FELLOW DEMOCRATS are STUPID, MISOGYNISTIC, MOTHER HATING MORONS

-OR-

STUPID, CORRUPTION LOVING, CULT OF PERSONALITIES ROBOTS please put on a nice victim hat while juries HIDE because

ENOUGH ALREADY.

Bernie supporters are usually, but NOT ALWAYS talking about Hillary's PROBLEMS as a candidate who represents the values of the party. Hillary supporters are talking about Bernie supporters. BOTH SIDED ARE BEING RUDE, INSULTING AND OFFENSIVE, and may I point out, we are talking the SUPPORTERS/NOT THE CANDIDATES.

And both sides are causing us to bleed voters because this sausage making festival is the OPPOSITE of INSPIRING and is ONE of the reasons Hillary's candidacy is easily described as DIVISIVE.

I can't even imagine the hell that would be four years of a presidency with her at the helm. I would probably never watch network or cable television again. Sigh.

Okay. I've had my little rant, and scolded everyone. If it was too subtle, here is the message one last time:

QUIT BEING NASTY, ALL OF YOU.

I hope the guilty parties feel sufficiently chastised now, while the innocent bystanders are at least amused. But the reality is, I can't control the Internet (and candidly am not interested in doing so) but I can control ME.

I hereby pledge to trash threads and block people who are insulting and rude to fellow Democrats about their candidate preference on BOTH SIDES. That means I am not "recommending" snide, obnoxious threads or kicking them with arguments. Trash & Block.

I am not sure there will be anything left to see, but I am going to try it. Because I actually like some of the people who are doing this, I will reverse this AFTER the convention.

Insulting and Rude to fellow Democrats: Done. Now.

That is all.

Sigh.

Good luck everyone.

Oh, and yes, I recognize the irony of meanly scolding people about being mean. What can I say? I'm complicated.

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Reply So, we HATE Hillary. Without Bernie, we would support Trump. (Original post)
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 OP
Raster Mar 2016 #1
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #6
Raster Mar 2016 #9
hack89 Mar 2016 #2
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #5
Peacetrain Mar 2016 #3
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #7
JohnnyLib2 Mar 2016 #4
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #8
jillan Mar 2016 #10
JohnnyLib2 Mar 2016 #12
jillan Mar 2016 #13
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #11
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #14
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #15
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #28
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #30
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #31
BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #32
NCTraveler Mar 2016 #16
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #18
apnu Mar 2016 #17
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #20
apnu Mar 2016 #25
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #27
VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #19
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #21
VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #22
Armstead Mar 2016 #23
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #24
BeyondGeography Mar 2016 #26
IdaBriggs Mar 2016 #29

Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:12 PM

1. Wag that finger, Girlfriend... WAG THAT FINGER!

Hands on the hips!
Good morning, Happy Friday!

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Response to Raster (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:19 PM

6. Lol!

 

Total truth!

I feel like I am scolding my third grade twins: "Now, play nice, you two!" "But, mom..."



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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:23 PM

9. But ya know, it was a good scolding...

...have a WONDERFUL day!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:13 PM

2. Bernie supporters nice and logical. Hillary supporter meanies. Got it.

any other in depth, nuanced analysis you want to share?

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Response to hack89 (Reply #2)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:17 PM

5. ARGH - did I really screw it up that bad?

 

The Bernie folk are doing it, too.

Seriously, CULT-OF-PERSONALITY?

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:13 PM

3. Ida.. as an Obama supporter from the get go

I have been here before.. and seen this.. There were ops up wanting to have him impeached before he ever got inaugurated.. Its going to be a bumpy few months.. the pulling together road goes both ways.. if Bernie gets the nod, then they will have to get Hillarys people on board for him to be elected.. and visa versa of course.. you can tell the old hands.. because they keep trying to point that out..

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:20 PM

7. Blessings on you...I have been chanting "primary passions"

 

Like a mantra. Today's nonsense...

I need a hug.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:16 PM

4. Heh, you certainly are complicated.


But "enough already" sounds good from here.

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Response to JohnnyLib2 (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:22 PM

8. Truth.

 

And thank you.

I think we are all acting like crazy people. Including me.

I think I just threw a temper tantrum!

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Response to jillan (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:50 PM

12. Good grief!


The OP is a Bernie supporter, saying "enough already." Please think about it.

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Response to JohnnyLib2 (Reply #12)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:54 PM

13. My bad!! Read the first 2 paragraphs.......

<------ me!

Thanks.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:45 PM

11. You've just posted my own

motto since Dec 2015: TRASH and BLOCK

It helps a bit.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:00 PM

14. I have already begun - I don't mind substantive discussion

 

But I hate the insulting each other. I *like* some of the folks on the other side, and have considered them friends/worthy of respect for years -- but this just being mean is AWFUL.

"You're a poopy-head!" "No, you're a poopy-head!"

Argh!

Sigh. Must breathe...lol!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:06 PM

15. Exactly ... it's worse

than two of my sons - 15 months apart - were in their toddler stages.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:45 PM

28. I have now put 27 people on Ignore and trashed 5 threads - the entire feel has changed.

 

I am in shock. I am still seeing "good stuff" (I like this HRC thread, for example: http://www.democraticunderground.com/110770202) but not the insult stuff.

I should have done this days ago!!!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #28)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:50 PM

30. Do you realize that even this thread

(I liked it too) has been cited in another thread by a Not-Hillary supporter and then deconstructed to show how "wrong" we are.

I think that I likely have hundreds on Ignore by now.

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Response to BlueMTexpat (Reply #30)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 06:12 PM

31. I don't even know what to say to that --

 

I am a Bernie supporter, so I must be doing this "damn it, stop insulting everyone!" thing wrong.

I probably shouldn't have read the "hidden" threads - they got my blood boiling!

But my dogs are being super cute, the sky is blue and my children are temporarily occupied while I am watching squirrels romp just out of reach in a backyard that has no snow.

I am going to make manicotti with home made red sauce tomorrow and I am going to be tripling the batch.

Life is good. Got to keep my priorities straight.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #31)

Sat Mar 12, 2016, 12:49 PM

32. You seem to have yours straight!

And I have no problem with your being a Bernie supporter. You are like those Bernie supporters I know in person.

Not only are we friends who can co-exist, but we can actually discuss our political differences without the discussion becoming a food fight.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:14 PM

16. Complicated is not the appropriate word. nt.

 

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:08 PM

18. I have always had the utmost respect for you.

 

Your tomato information alone (I bought your book) is a joy.

We are on different sides right now.

You are barely civil - I won't deny that you tread the line, but I can't deny your change in tone.

Must I put you on ignore because you now dislike me so? Will things improve when the primary is over, or is everything changed forever?

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:21 PM

17. Bernie or Hillary, I'll happily pull the lever for either of them.

No questions.

Personally I'm for Bernie, but as a fall back, Hillary is a good choice. On her very worst day, she will be 100% better than ANY Republican and/or Conservative.

Will Hillary put a conservative on the SCOTUS? No!
Will Hillary continue the war on women? No!
Will Hillary support bigoted and racist legislation? No!
Will Hillary tear down marriage equality? No!

If it comes to Hillary and any Republican, I'm voting for Hillary... with a clear conscience.

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Response to apnu (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:12 PM

20. This thread isn't meant for the likes of you.

 

You made your preference known with courtesy and respect.

You did not INSULT ANYONE.

This scolding was not meant for you - you are one of the reasons DU does NOT suck.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #20)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:10 PM

25. Just getting the word out that we don't have to be assholes about our choices

Its like 2008 all over again around here, but with a younger, meme-centric crowd. Still the shape and sentiment is about the same.

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Response to apnu (Reply #25)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:42 PM

27. 2008 I was still in "new mom" fog with the twins and

 

the craziness of buying a new house that needed to be gutted (cracked foundation, six inches of water in the basement, hole in the roof, and then all the problems we didn't know about until the walks came down but what a GREAT DEAL - HA!!!) and missed most of it.

I kind of wish I hadn't been paying attention this time, too.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:09 PM

19. Roll your neck, sweetheart.

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Response to VulgarPoet (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:15 PM

21. Lol! With a little bit of shoulder swagger, too!

 

I could probably be a LITTLE more condescending and self-righteous, but it would take work!

I am calming down. I made the mistake of reading some of the hidden posts.

My head exploded and I turned into a scolding shrew.

Give me a few more hours and I should be chill again.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Reply #21)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:26 PM

22. ...Huh. Now that I think about it, I'm missing a large chunk of posts on this thread.

Welp, at least it's the weekend. Glad to see ya coolin' down though, hun.

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:31 PM

23. Sez You...So's yer old man

 

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Response to Armstead (Reply #23)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:38 PM

24. SMOOCH!

 

My husband says I married him for his sense of humor.

Thank you for making me smile!

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Response to IdaBriggs (Original post)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:35 PM

26. I fought the Hill in 07-8

And I thought I was obnoxious. Even if I had the same freedoms that the jury system allows today compared with the mod-administered board of yore, I wouldn't have begun to come up with some of the vile crap I've seen this time around.

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Response to BeyondGeography (Reply #26)

Fri Mar 11, 2016, 05:48 PM

29. Trash & Ignore. It has only been a few hours, but

 

I have 27 people on Ignore and 5 trashed threads and the entire feel has changed.

I was worried I would get "echo chamber syndrome" but I am still seeing good stuff.

Best. Features. Ever!

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