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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:57 PM Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton Is One of the Most Ethical (and Most Lied About) Political Leaders in America


The most they have are votes they disagree with. And even there, the false frames are tossed around with no regard for facts. Hillary’s voting record is as liberal as Elizabeth Warren’s, yet somehow Hillary is the only one portrayed by critics as a sell-out, a closet Republican, a traitor to progressives.

I agree with most of Bernie Sanders’ platform – which is very similar to Hillary’s – but contrary to the assertions of his supporters, Bernie is not some outsider untouched by the messy complexities of politics. He is a seasoned politician who has spent a quarter century in Congress; he sided with the NRA when it was politically expedient; his top adviser is a consummate DC insider who has worked for candidates who are anathema to the left; he has hired pollsters to hone his message after saying he didn’t need pollsters; and he has shown a willingness to take swipes at the likes of Planned Parenthood and HRC when it serves his political goals.

My point is this: the notion that somehow Bernie is pure good and Hillary is pure evil is hogwash. They are both politicians who make judgments and adopt positions, some of which we agree with, others we don’t.

http://bluenationreview.com/hillary-clinton-is-one-of-the-most-ethical-and-most-lied-about-political-leaders-in-america/
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Hillary Clinton Is One of the Most Ethical (and Most Lied About) Political Leaders in America (Original Post) book_worm Mar 2016 OP
"Peter Daou is a former adviser to Hillary Clinton" arcane1 Mar 2016 #1
They are the masters at convincing people that up is down and down is up! reformist2 Mar 2016 #49
Since when is blatant lying and bold faced getting caught at it ethical? eom Cleita Mar 2016 #2
If that was true, those Republicans... scscholar Mar 2016 #37
Here you go--highest rated for DIShonesty. She wins!! panader0 Mar 2016 #39
Uhh, that's a poll... scscholar Mar 2016 #40
You mean like the opinions of voters? panader0 Mar 2016 #41
Bull MFM008 Mar 2016 #53
Brock sure is earning his keep -- Hell Hath No Fury Mar 2016 #3
A most ethical politician... gcomeau Mar 2016 #4
what he meant to say was "Hillary Clinton is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful boomer55 Mar 2016 #5
And he means, "since I used to get paid for working for her ... (or wait that may still be the case Cavallo Mar 2016 #29
Well said. I have seen a lot of utter BS presented here at DU over the last year or so. K & R nt Persondem Mar 2016 #6
I'm not sure my list is full of lies- what do you think? casperthegm Mar 2016 #7
WTF? This is just propaganda from David Brock. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #8
How ethical is that? Mnpaul Mar 2016 #43
Couldn't HRC find someone outside her super PACs to say she's honest and ethical? winter is coming Mar 2016 #47
Let's start with the repeal of Glass-Steagall. longship Mar 2016 #9
Watch this and decided if she lied to moveon.org Gwhittey Mar 2016 #10
You sure picked the wrong day to try this one. Motown_Johnny Mar 2016 #11
It's not just politics..she is an out and out liar! bkkyosemite Mar 2016 #12
This is, perhaps, the funniest thing I have read in months. Vattel Mar 2016 #13
Ok, that's just straight up batshit whatchamacallit Mar 2016 #14
This thread isn't turning out quite how you'd hoped, is it. LOL. Electric Monk Mar 2016 #15
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #16
Also, HAHAHAHSHAHAHAHAHAHA dchill Mar 2016 #52
Oh, Sorry. bvar22 Mar 2016 #17
Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire? RufusTFirefly Mar 2016 #18
Nice! The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #33
. Autumn Mar 2016 #19
Well there you have it, hard-hitting, independent journalism DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #20
+10000 Cavallo Mar 2016 #30
She is the most well connected plutocrat since GW. Cavallo Mar 2016 #31
Sounds like the truth to me. nt LAS14 Mar 2016 #21
HAHAHAHAHAAAA! Propaganda at it's finest! Avalux Mar 2016 #22
ROFL!! m-lekktor Mar 2016 #23
Blue Nation Review = True Blue Media = David Brock = Propaganda Arm for Hillary Clinton. Turn CO Blue Mar 2016 #24
Exactly, which makes the OP utterly wrong and ironic. Bread and Circus Mar 2016 #32
I see that some of the BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #25
#hillyes nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #26
#whichhillary? panader0 Mar 2016 #42
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2016 #27
Mmhmm Kall Mar 2016 #28
Hillary Clinton is one of the most unethical and pulls the spin cycle a lot pinebox Mar 2016 #34
They released this too early. 4/01 is not here yet. Jackilope Mar 2016 #35
+1000! n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #46
some of whcih causes death and destruction 2pooped2pop Mar 2016 #36
i agree MariaThinks Mar 2016 #38
Bahahahahaha! That's a good one Press Virginia Mar 2016 #44
Thank you. XRubicon Mar 2016 #45
DU Poll Results (so far) on how ethical Hillary is: Herman4747 Mar 2016 #48
Thanks for posting another article from this right-wing rag. Broward Mar 2016 #50
IWR. nt Tierra_y_Libertad Mar 2016 #51
This story is proof that liars lie. dchill Mar 2016 #54
This worked a lot better before YouTube. jeff47 Mar 2016 #55
She IS one of the most lied about politicians. noamnety Mar 2016 #56

panader0

(25,816 posts)
41. You mean like the opinions of voters?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:32 PM
Mar 2016

And if you do a little bit of research you can find out how dishonest she is for yourself.
Just a little bit.

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
53. Bull
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:31 PM
Mar 2016

everything about Clinton has been about privacy issues and republican witch hunts and LIES. (Except for the activity of Bill Clinton, which frankly is none of anyones buisness how she deals with it).
She doesnt have to release transcripts of crap until everyone does.
All republican lies. From whitewater to Vince Foster to emails to Benghaaazzziii. Republicans LIE and suckers believe it.

I swear some "democrats" are going to be as unhappy as the republiCONS when she is President.

 

gcomeau

(5,764 posts)
4. A most ethical politician...
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:01 PM
Mar 2016

...would tell her voters what she said to Wall St in exchange for millions of dollars in payouts instead of hiding it and making excuses. Just item one on a very very very very long list where Clinton places political expedience above ethical behavior.


The author appears to be confused about the meaning of ethics.

 

boomer55

(592 posts)
5. what he meant to say was "Hillary Clinton is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:04 PM
Mar 2016

human being I've ever known in my life."

Cavallo

(348 posts)
29. And he means, "since I used to get paid for working for her ... (or wait that may still be the case
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:02 PM
Mar 2016

Since the Clinton campaign has a staff larger than all other campaigns total that have been in this election so far)

Either way,

I'm sure he liked his pay check.

casperthegm

(643 posts)
7. I'm not sure my list is full of lies- what do you think?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:07 PM
Mar 2016

I can only answer for myself but here are a number of reasons I don't care for her/distrust her;

Clinton’s position on Keystone (or lack of one). She waited until the same week that Obama made his decision before announcing where she stood. That's not standing up for the environment. That's politics.

Wall Street money. Whether it's impression or reality, it's there and it can't help but make me wonder. Generally speaking, it's hard to imagine the banks and Wall Street throwing all of that money at her and saying "here you go, we don't expect anything in return." By the way, how is that search for the transcripts going?

Her opposition to Glass Stegall. Though I do recall her telling the banks to "cut it out." Thanks Hillary.


Her Iraq vote. You may be sick of hearing about it but it's a big deal. It was poor judgement and lack of foresight. Sanders saw that it would destabilize the region. And it did. Now we not have the legacy of the Iraq war, we have the current ISIS situation.

Speaking of that, there is the no-fly zone proposal. Another poor foreign policy decision. What happens when Russian jets cross that line? You have to be prepared for that and I don't see it.

The email and server investigation by the FBI. Sorry, it's real. It very well could end up being nothing in the end, but what if it's not? What if it drags on until the general election and then she gets indicted? Then you end up with a republican in the White House.

Gay marriage. You can see how she has flip flopped over the years, as confirmed via politifact. Another change based on the political winds.

Her support of the TPP

These are facts. All of these things and more have led me to distrust her judgement and her authenticity. It stands in stark contrast with her opponent.

Mnpaul

(3,655 posts)
43. How ethical is that?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:38 PM
Mar 2016

Peddling this garbage without disclosing ties to Clinton's campaign. I doubt these people know the meaning of the word.

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. Let's start with the repeal of Glass-Steagall.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:09 PM
Mar 2016

And go forward to her Iraq vote, and let's factor in her mentor, Henry Kissinger.

Then, we can begin talking about ethics. I would not relish being for Clinton's position in this debate. Maybe that is why her approval rating is so horrible, just like all the GOP candidates.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
11. You sure picked the wrong day to try this one.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:11 PM
Mar 2016

She just started running an ad misrepresenting Sen. Sanders vote on the auto bailout.

Hillary just can't tell the truth about anything. Deal with it.




 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
13. This is, perhaps, the funniest thing I have read in months.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:12 PM
Mar 2016

Clinton is a very dishonest political leader. Sanders is a very honest political leader. The facts make that very clear.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
18. Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:16 PM
Mar 2016

Hillary Clinton is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
20. Well there you have it, hard-hitting, independent journalism
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:17 PM
Mar 2016

From a website owned by Clinton's SuperPAC. Can't get more ethical than that.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
22. HAHAHAHAHAAAA! Propaganda at it's finest!
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:19 PM
Mar 2016

The lies are solely her own.

It's completely mind-boggling that this woman, who will lie with conviction at the drop of a hat and change her position just as easily, has managed to make people think she's a victim, and hilariously - ethical! I guess having an army of people to do her dirty work keeps her hands clean.

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
24. Blue Nation Review = True Blue Media = David Brock = Propaganda Arm for Hillary Clinton.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 05:25 PM
Mar 2016

COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

BlueMTexpat

(15,367 posts)
25. I see that some of the
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 07:59 PM
Mar 2016

"Not Hillary" group are responding with their usual grace, courtesy and panache.

Thanks for trying, b_w!




 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
34. Hillary Clinton is one of the most unethical and pulls the spin cycle a lot
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:05 PM
Mar 2016

Sorry David Brock but YouTube doesn't lie and has a LOT more viewers than your little site ever will.
Reality check time.





dchill

(38,474 posts)
54. This story is proof that liars lie.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:33 PM
Mar 2016

And that they lie about lying. And that lies are their stock in trade. They are immune to shame.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
55. This worked a lot better before YouTube.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:42 PM
Mar 2016

The Clinton's should probably update their campaign strategy to account for the fact that there is easily-accessible-and-shared footage of her lying a lot.

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