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BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:37 AM Mar 2016

"Five reasons Bernie Sanders lost last night’s Democratic debate"

1. Clinton caught Sanders off guard with her attacks on his vote against the auto industry bailout. . .

2. Sanders seemed condescending when he cut off Clinton.

The 74-year-old got testy, even grumpy, multiple times. She clearly got under his skin with the auto rescue hit.

Sanders hushed Clinton as she sought to speak during the ensuing exchange. “Excuse me, I’m talking,” he said. The audience gasped.. . . .

Sanders may speak with everyone this way (he often cuts off reporters of both genders mid-sentence), but in this case he risked offending female voters who have been wavering on whether to back Clinton.

One of the consequences of the vulgarity in the Republican race is the coarsening of our broader national discourse. While it is harder to shock the conscience than it used to be, Sanders still went too far.

3. Sanders once again seemed oblivious on racial issues.
The biggest gaffe of the night was his response to a pretty straightforward question: “What racial blind spots do you have?”

His answer showed he has plenty. "When you are white, you don’t know what it’s like to be living in a ghetto, you don’t know what it’s like to be poor, you don’t know what it’s like to be hassled when you are walking down a street or dragged out of a car," Sanders said.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2016/03/07/daily-202-five-reasons-bernie-sanders-lost-last-night-s-democratic-debate/56dcf1e6981b92a22d730a5d/
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"Five reasons Bernie Sanders lost last night’s Democratic debate" (Original Post) BainsBane Mar 2016 OP
Willful ignorance on your part. nt thereismore Mar 2016 #1
Oh dear BainsBane Mar 2016 #4
Sounds so Bezos. Octafish Mar 2016 #2
What? BainsBane Mar 2016 #3
BTW, your interlocutor just committed the genetic fallacy./nt DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #11
Nothing has been more objective in this race than the tireless work of Washington Post columnists DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #5
You're going to have to widen your net BainsBane Mar 2016 #7
I watched the debate DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #10
No one forced you to open this thread BainsBane Mar 2016 #15
lol Hiraeth Mar 2016 #8
I don't think James Hohmann is a disinterested party angstlessk Mar 2016 #16
Bernie was the same as usual. The media spin this morning is disgusting and shameful. Avalux Mar 2016 #6
The article does not call him sexist or racist BainsBane Mar 2016 #9
I've been thinking about that ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #13
Very nice BainsBane rock Mar 2016 #12
Thank you Bains sheshe2 Mar 2016 #14

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
4. Oh dear
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:48 AM
Mar 2016

The crime of reading the Washington Post again. I keep forgetting I must restrict my news intake to Fox and the Free Beacon so as to only read stories that attack Hillary and praise Bernie.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
5. Nothing has been more objective in this race than the tireless work of Washington Post columnists
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:51 AM
Mar 2016

Of course I can't make a final decision on just how bad his performance was until I hear from Jonathon Capehart.


BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
7. You're going to have to widen your net
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:56 AM
Mar 2016

of publications to condemn since other publications and media outlets have made similar observations.

He did badly last night. If I'm wrong about that and Duers right that Clinton was a disaster, that should be reflected in the outcome of tomorrow night's election.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
10. I watched the debate
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:07 PM
Mar 2016

I don't need a Washington Post columnist to explain to me what I watched. Thanks, anyway.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
16. I don't think James Hohmann is a disinterested party
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 01:57 PM
Mar 2016

This is what HE wrote when Bernie was declared the winner of the 4th debate:

Headline: The Daily 202: Bernie Sanders won the Democratic debate, say pundits and social media (emphasis mine)

This is the entirety of what he wrote about that win by Bernie (the rest of the article was quotes from those other pundits and social media)

THE BIG IDEA:
The final Democratic debate before the Iowa caucuses was mostly about Bernie Sanders.

Front-runner Hillary Clinton often sounded like an underdog, as she attacked the Vermont senator for flip-flopping on guns, proposing an unrealistic health-care plan and admitting that he would raise taxes on the middle class. The former secretary of state closely linked herself with Barack Obama, praising the president repeatedly as she appealed to African American voters who could save her campaign if she loses Iowa and New Hampshire. She had a very strong closing argument and dominated when talk turned to foreign policy.


A total of 99 words!

For THIS article about the Hillary win? 1,860 words

Can you spot the difference?

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
6. Bernie was the same as usual. The media spin this morning is disgusting and shameful.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:54 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie is NOT racist, he is NOT sexist - and insinuations of such belong with the GOP, not within the Democratic party.

Shame on everyone of you promoting the smears against Bernie. Hillary will have to pry my vote out of my cold dead hands if she wants it.

I am so angry.

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
9. The article does not call him sexist or racist
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:58 AM
Mar 2016

This victimization complex is becoming incredibly boring.

ismnotwasm

(41,965 posts)
13. I've been thinking about that
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 12:12 PM
Mar 2016

What makes ME angry is this--idea--that Hillary is never, ever a victim of sexism. But that aside, I don't think Sanders was or is deliberately sexist or racist. I think he decided 40 years ago that economic issues trump everything else, leading to what is perhaps the most singleminded campaign ever run. He is, judging by his gaffes last night, simply and stunningly oblivious. This is, apparently, just who he is.

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