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MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:38 AM Mar 2016

On the auto industry argument...

The audience reaction said it all. Hillary Clinton won that one loudly and clearly.

Frankly, most voters aren't going to dissect this. Debates are what they are. Bernie lost that round, I'm afraid, and lost it badly.

Then again, Michigan wasn't really in question anyhow.

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think

(11,641 posts)
1. Hillary knows how to use half truths like the politician she is....
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:40 AM
Mar 2016

And yes Bernie should be prepared for her bullshit.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
2. It's a political campaign. It was a debate.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:44 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie wasn't prepared for that one, and the debate was held in Michigan, for goodness' sake.

Yes, the bailout bill benefited both the banks and the auto industry. Bernie voted against it because of the banks. That doesn't change the fact that the auto industry got rescued and that Bernie voted against the bill.

Half truths are what they are. Half true. No, Clinton didn't mention the banking side of that bill. She was debating in Michigan. She spoke to the concerns of people in Michigan. They applauded strongly. After Bernie spoke, the applause wasn't there.

Bernie lost that round at the debate. Reality bites.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
7. She did it in the other debate too with the CFMA tucked into the Omnibus bill. It's her standard MO
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:54 AM
Mar 2016

Play dirty to win. Guess we all might as well get use to it....

aspirant

(3,533 posts)
3. Who was in the audience, did they sell tickets?
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:48 AM
Mar 2016

"Michigan wasn't really in question anyway" you mean like your prediction that Hills would win Minnesota because you know Minnesotans so well?

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
5. We'll find the answer sometime tomorrow night, I guess.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:52 AM
Mar 2016

As for who was in the audience, I have no idea. Neither do the people who watched that debate. Do you know the makeup of the audience? If so, please post a link to the information so I can check it out.

Audience reaction at these debates is part of how they are received by viewers. I imagine a lot of Michiganders watched last night.

Anyhow, the polling for Michigan is pretty clear, really.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. Bernie's response was pathetic.. it didnt make sense to those who didnt know the specifics.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:56 AM
Mar 2016

Bernie went off on the "not bailing out Wall Street" argument when the subject was about bailing out the auto industry. My wife who is not into politics said "why is he changing the subject?".

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
9. Well, I understood what he said, but I'm a news junkie.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:58 AM
Mar 2016

For those who don't remember the events, it did sound like changing the subject, though, and that's probably the vast majority of those watching that debate.

Not his best moment, really, and the audience made that clear.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
10. Yeah, I understood it too but it seemed like a cop out to avoid the truth.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:01 AM
Mar 2016

He could have come back and explained his decision in more detail but seems he didnt want to go there.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
11. I don't believe the audience was made up of people who are average everyday blue collar workers.
Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:03 AM
Mar 2016

I'd believe they were partisan hacks before I'd believe they were workaday people.

So there's more than one interpretation of what you heard.

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