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Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:26 AM

 

Sorry Hillary, Bernie supported the auto bailout

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Leahy, Sanders reluctantly support auto industry rescue
12/11/08 5:50PM By Bob Kinzel

http://www.vpr.net/news_detail/83206/leahy-sanders-reluctantly-support-auto-industry-re/

Senator Bernie Sanders voted against the $700 billion bail out of the financial services industry but he says this package is different:
(Sanders) "The problem is if you don't act in the midst of a growing recession what does it mean to create a situation where millions of more people become unemployed and that could spread and I have serious concerns about that I think it would be a terrible idea to add millions more to the unemployment rolls."
A large number of Republican senators are threatening to block consideration of this bill.
Senator Leahy is angry about this possibility:
(Leahy) "These are the same people who voted billions of dollars with the idea that it's supposed to create jobs in Iraq well what I'm saying we're in a crisis in America we should be concentrating on what kinds of jobs we create in America."
Leahy says it's too soon to tell if a compromise bill can be drafted in time for a Senate vote before the weekend.

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Reply Sorry Hillary, Bernie supported the auto bailout (Original post)
pinebox Mar 2016 OP
virtualobserver Mar 2016 #1
pdsimdars Mar 2016 #16
aspirant Mar 2016 #2
metroins Mar 2016 #3
CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #5
metroins Mar 2016 #10
CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #19
jfern Mar 2016 #7
metroins Mar 2016 #11
CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #20
CdnExtraNational Mar 2016 #4
jfern Mar 2016 #8
Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #6
John Poet Mar 2016 #9
Major Hogwash Mar 2016 #12
GreatGazoo Mar 2016 #14
silvershadow Mar 2016 #13
DrDan Mar 2016 #15
pinebox Mar 2016 #17
DrDan Mar 2016 #18

Response to pinebox (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:34 AM

1. Hillary's willingness to attack Bernie with lies is so unPresidential

 

Trustworthiness just isn't her thing

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #1)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:59 AM

16. She is a serial liar, she can't stop. She is never straight forward.

 

And this is who the Hillarians support? A serial liar. WOW!

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Response to pinebox (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:37 AM

2. Why didn't he blast her with this?

Maybe waiting for the Fox town hall for fireworks?

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Response to pinebox (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:38 AM

3. TARP was the bill

That provided funds for the auto bailout.

Sanders voted Nay.

You can argue why he did, but the bill that actually provided the funds, in real life, he voted Nay on.

http://www.politico.com/story/2008/10/the-senate-bailout-vote-014196

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Response to metroins (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:43 AM

5. Do another 30 seconds more research and you find out that is not true. nt

 

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Response to CdnExtraNational (Reply #5)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:49 AM

10. Actually, TARP funded the Detroit bailout

https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/tg139.aspx

You shouldn't be arguing whether Bernie voted yay or nay on the Detroit bailout. Because he voted Nay on TARP, which is where the funds came from in REALITY.

Factually, if the funds came from TARP, and Sanders voted against TARP. Then Sanders voted against the bailout.

Your argument should be on whether TARP was a good thing or a bad thing.

EESA and TARP Sanders voted against.

http://maplight.org/us-congress/bill/110-hr-1424/352600/contributions-by-vote

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Response to metroins (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 08:58 AM

19. Twisted logic.

 

Bernie voted for the auto bailout.

Bernie voted against the bank bailout (TARP).

Thanks to President Obama for taking some of the money out of the bank bailout to help the auto industry.

I guess you weren't paying attention back then.

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Response to metroins (Reply #3)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:46 AM

7. The October 2008 TARP vote was for a bill just about the financial industry

Even a Democratic Senator from Michigan, Stabenow voted no. Are you going to claim a Democratic Senator from Michigan voted against the auto bailout. Lets keep this beliveable.

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Response to jfern (Reply #7)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:50 AM

11. Yes.

The funds for the bailout came from TARP.

That is the reality.

https://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/tg139.aspx

EESA and TARP Sanders voted against.

http://maplight.org/us-congress/bill/110-hr-1424/352600/contributions-by-vote

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Response to metroins (Reply #11)

Tue Mar 8, 2016, 09:02 AM

20. You are just as dishonest as she was...

 

The Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) is a program of the United States government to purchase assets and equity from financial institutions to strengthen its financial sector that was signed into law by U.S. President George W. Bush on October 3, 2008.

What part of that says auto bailout?
Republicans didn't even support the auto bailout.
Thanks to President Obama for taking some of the second tranche of the TARP and giving it to the auto industry.

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Response to pinebox (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:41 AM

4. When you do just an ounce of research you find out it is deception.

 

... and she chose her words so carefully to avoid a total lie.

"He voted against the money that ENDED UP bailing out the auto industry."

Even though the bill had nothing in it about the auto industry.

It was only by President Obama's administrative authority that some of the money was used to bailout the auto industry.

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Response to CdnExtraNational (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:47 AM

8. Yes, she avoided it being a total pants on fire lie, but certainly proved

that she deserves her 67% not honest and trustworthy rating.

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Response to pinebox (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:43 AM

6. The fact that she lied about Bernie's voting record will come back to haunt her.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 02:48 AM

9. I hope you're right, but I'm afraid you're wrong.

 

Hillary seems to get a "pass" for every lie she can come up with...

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Response to John Poet (Reply #9)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 03:04 AM

12. Well then, why doesn't Bernie just cut her off at the "pass"?

That's the way Randolph Scott would've done it.

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Response to Major Hogwash (Reply #6)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:23 AM

14. Seems to SOP for HRC when she is losing in the primaries

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Response to pinebox (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 04:20 AM

13. yes he did nt

 

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Response to pinebox (Original post)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 08:30 AM

15. supported it - just did not want to pay for it . . . I am quite sure the people of Flint will accept

this considering their problems today

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Response to DrDan (Reply #15)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 10:25 AM

17. I think this guy knows a thing or 2 about Flint

 

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Response to pinebox (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 7, 2016, 11:35 AM

18. so that money was wasted . . . got it

btw - where would GM and Chrysler be today without the money?

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