Bernie paid his family out of campaign funds, Hillary did not.

It's epic in its cluelessness.
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OP....

The article that details what it was like to work for Jane Sanders is a must read.

... merely look questionable because of convoluted FEC bookkeeping requirements, right?

are detailed---and anyone who wants to look for them can find them.

... and a bit alarming in my opinion. From my perspective, it appears that it hasn't received enough scrutiny (as appears to be the case with much of his campaign, history and policies.)

the hell am I gonna say to you that will convince you to vote for a woman, who (by looking at your own post on that thread) you think took campaign money?

I have voted within the system all my life, for some reason the system doesn't seem to be working for the people. I think that when something isn't working it's time to stop doing that thing. I'm going to vote for myself and what motivates me.

Q: Why are faculty politics so violent?

A: Because the stakes are so small.

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Bernie is paid his family out of campaign funds, Hillary did not.
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Linking to a right wing rag like Free Beacon is not okay no matter which side does it, using it to attack Sen Sanders' wife is completely over-the-top. This is Democratic Underground, we shouldn't be helping the opposition.

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"Sanders wife is the Anti-Christ.......But I'm just pointing out the fallacy of posting from the Free beacon"

I think they understood the point that was trying to be made.

(As did jurors 2, 3, 4, and 7 ... but juror #1 took the time to try an enlighten others.)

jury gets the point of the OP

to counter the fact that Hillary is involved in establishment ties is this...

None of this involves Sanders or his wife colluding with special interests, lobbyists, war criminals, smear jockeys or other deplorable characters. Thus, it doesn't affect how Bernie would ever run his White House.

None of these actions mentioned in the op correlate with the idea that he's beholden to anyone else.

So while the thread posted by someone about Hillary may not be true, all of these findings of yours are irrelevant to how Bernie would run things as president.

It's not just the way the big money is handled by campaigns that should concern anyone, its where it comes from and why.

but I'm sure you're patting yourself on the back for all this effort to smear Jane and Bernie. You know it makes sense for Bernie to pay his family in the campaign? They do officially work for his campaign sooo... yeah.

anyways, this mud won't stick.

Which it does quite handily.
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what's the point of this OP? lol

I'll answer that...

It's called reeeeaaaching. XD

Which received numerous recs after Skinner's post. So this thread simply provides a little more context, no? If payments to a candidate or candidate's family from a campaign fund are unethical, then what does this mean for Sanders?
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as does Hillary's sooo... who said that part was unethical?

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https://hillaryforamerica.applytojob.com/apply/BX8xZl/Internship

Is the internship paid?
No, this is an unpaid internship. Interns will obtain an educational and professional experience in connection with their education or pursuit of a degree.


http://time.com/money/4215463/bernie-sanders-campaign-paid-internships/

Guess Which Presidential Candidate Is Actually Paying Interns

Snip: Except one campaign.

Greer and Grenell—using a paid intern, they carefully point out—reached out to all the campaigns and inquired about the employment and payment of interns. Only Bernie Sanders’ campaign said that it paid interns, to the tune of $10.10 per hour.

Though this is not the $15 dollar minimum wage Sanders wants, it stands out starkly to the other candidates intern pay of … $0. Ten bucks an hour is, as any math-lover will tell you, infinity times more than the others.

One of those rare occasions, she doesn't seem slimy. Well played.

Now that we're smearing spouses.

Has he been associated with any scandals or nefarious activities that might make him unsuitable to be first spouse?

As if no one will bring up Bill's peccadillos and proclivities - while being President! - because he is soooo charming or because we have heard that before. That's not reality. And the charm is, quite frankly, gone.

About a b****** that occurred in the 1990s?

Oh, and there has been more than just a "b******" - Bill has been disbarred, censured and fined - for way more than just a b******.

Not so much.

When I mentioned Bill Clinton to mt grandson, he snickered. And I have never discussed Bill with him. I don't think other voters are going to use your timeline for deciding what is relevant and what is not, either.

Anyway, nothing Jane or Bernie did or does could get me to support a candidate who is for war and fracking and increased H-1B visas, and the Third Way of doing things, so there's that.

But you were already going to vote for Hillary. And it is not the "sex acts" that are important, really - it is the willingness to lie about them, and seeming inability to control them. Getting fined and disbarred, IMO, is kind of a big deal to me.

I would imagine its not a deal breaker for 99% of voters.

Not paying interns is a much bigger problem imo and one I seriously dislike, beginning with HRC and extending all the way to corporations

That kind of thing - rules, regulations, policies - don't matter to 'progressives.' Often, they've never heard of things like the FEC. On a broader scale, they're unaware of things like delegate counts, math, etc.

... especially if you're of the 'black or white, this or that' mentality, of which 'progressive' are for the most part.

And please don't quote that wingnut source - Free Bacon - they have one job in life, slander Democrats.

I am glad that the slander against Hillary was rebuffed by Skinner though.

as meta now you post this new thread with the same complaint disguised as a Bernie corruption thread

...then this is a very relevant thread, is it not?
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unethical????? BTW in the other thread the poster claimed not trying to force or shame anyone yet here we are again after a lock

paid by all the connections............

For Clintons, a Hedge Fund in the Family
By MATTHEW GOLDSTEIN and STEVE EDERMARCH 22, 2015

Since marrying Chelsea Clinton five years ago, Marc Mezvinsky, a money manager, appears to have settled into his life as Bill and Hillary Clinton’s son-in-law. He has regularly appeared at charitable events, once introducing the former president at the Clinton Foundation’s celebrity poker tournament by dryly saying, “You may have heard of my father-in-law.” And at the recent N.B.A. All-Star Game, Mr. Mezvinsky took a seat next to Mr. Clinton and his partner in charitable endeavors, Dikembe Mutombo, the former basketball star.

Beyond the glamour, being part of the Clinton family has provided Mr. Mezvinsky with another perk: access to wealthy investors with ties to the Clintons.

When Mr. Mezvinsky and his partners began raising money in 2011 for a new hedge fund firm, Eaglevale Partners, a number of investors in the firm were longtime supporters of the Clintons, according to interviews and financial documents reviewed by The New York Times. Tens of millions of dollars raised by Eaglevale can be attributed to investors with some relationship or link to the Clintons.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/23/business/dealbook/for-clintons-a-hedge-fund-in-the-family.html?_r=0

"Hillary Clinton has paid herself over $250,000 from campaign money since April 2015.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/04/dead-broke-hillary-pays-herself-over-250k-from-campaign-coffers/#ixzz422tj0L3t"

The source your reliable source was freebeacon. Said so right there on web page for the your link posted at end the of the second paragraph "The Washington Free Beacon reports."

Not a reliable source. Sorry.

on edit PS; nt stands for no text. Generally that means no text in the message. so next time ditch the nt in your title


As your post had text ...

Maybe she didn't pay herself. But, she and Bill are worth 125 million and her daughter is a millionaire, we won't worry about her paying her family for their services.

And good for her for paying people for their services.

A person with some small amount of introspection, or I might suggest, shame, might take the fact that this is from one person with an axe to grind under consideration.

that original thread, you must be just fine with it.

They blame Hillary for things she didn't do while excusing Bernie for actually doing the thing they are criticizing her for.

set.

thanks