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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 03:06 AM Mar 2016

I'd enthusiastically support virtually any Democrat who runs against Trump

I really don't have any more issue differences with Bernie than I do Hillary, the differences just are in different areas, but on balance, I like them both equally.

If I had to vote for Biden, or Gore, or Warren, or Jackie Speier, I would do that too.

I don't feel I'm voting for the lesser of two evils, I see many good things in voting for any of the names I listed above and virtually any possible nominee Democrats could put up in the next decade.

But it really does come back to beating Trump at this point.

Even if I had no other reason for voting, voting to stop a dangerous bigot, there's no shame in that.

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I'd enthusiastically support virtually any Democrat who runs against Trump (Original Post) CreekDog Mar 2016 OP
Totally agree with you! Thanks for the post. n/t Upthevibe Mar 2016 #1
Yep RelativelyJones Mar 2016 #2
i'll support any democrat who DesertFlower Mar 2016 #3
I will too nt fun n serious Mar 2016 #4
Me too Frances Mar 2016 #5
A voice of reason. JaneyVee Mar 2016 #6
How about Lieberman? Still happy about that vote? Live and Learn Mar 2016 #7
Lieberman sucks. But he's not Trump. DemocraticWing Mar 2016 #9
You are right. Lieberman is a warmonger while Trump isn't. Live and Learn Mar 2016 #11
I will never vote for Trump or Hillary. I'll write Bernie's name in if he's not the nominee. nt PonyUp Mar 2016 #8
Good for you!! JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #19
Maybe they should make one that says "Driver has a clear conscience". n/t PonyUp Mar 2016 #21
Selfish much? JohnnyRingo Mar 2016 #27
no wonder you have 4 hides in just a month here CreekDog Mar 2016 #24
Awww...I have a fan! PonyUp Mar 2016 #25
I'd vote for Rod Blagojevich over Trump at this point. DemocraticWing Mar 2016 #10
I agree. Behind the Aegis Mar 2016 #12
I totally agree with your point that it shows an appalling lack of solidarity with the oppressed. Tanuki Mar 2016 #17
Either of them are better than ANY republican candidate period. Though, I prefer Bernie. nt LostOne4Ever Mar 2016 #13
Nice, but isn't that a low bar? SheilaT Mar 2016 #14
i said any Democrat that could get the nomination CreekDog Mar 2016 #22
Only one problem with that voting strategy . . . DrBulldog Mar 2016 #15
i disagree with that CreekDog Mar 2016 #23
Amen ! stating the obvious Hah ! nt King_Klonopin Mar 2016 #16
I agree Lunabell Mar 2016 #18
Me too. betsuni Mar 2016 #20
I agree, but would like to add, I would vote for the Democratic nominee against any of the still_one Mar 2016 #26

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
7. How about Lieberman? Still happy about that vote?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:06 AM
Mar 2016

Are you happy about NAFTA? How about the Iraq War? Private prisons? The USA taking the lead in imprisoning our people? Ignoring climate change and ruining our environment? Reducing Social Security payments by increasing the age you can get them? The TPP? Increased wealth inequities?

Are you really okay with all these things that the Clintons advocate?

I am not and never will be.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
11. You are right. Lieberman is a warmonger while Trump isn't.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:40 AM
Mar 2016

I am sure they have other differences too. I would never vote for either one of them. Nor, will I vote for Hillary.

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
19. Good for you!!
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:47 AM
Mar 2016

It's better to shitcan your vote and spend the next four years endlessly complaining about how the country is going to hell on a rocket sled under a Republican White House than to do something to help prevent that.

I wonder if there's a bumper sticker that says: "Don't blame me, I don't vote".

JohnnyRingo

(18,628 posts)
27. Selfish much?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:39 PM
Mar 2016

You worry more about your oh so important ego than the sake of the nation. Besides, you'll have the election of someone like Ted Cruz on that delicate conscience of yours.

DemocraticWing

(1,290 posts)
10. I'd vote for Rod Blagojevich over Trump at this point.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:39 AM
Mar 2016

Give me crazy old Zell Miller! I'll vote for my dead Democratic relatives if I have to!

STOP TRUMP

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
12. I agree.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 04:45 AM
Mar 2016

Well, I may not be "enthusiastic" about some, but I will support anyone running against Trump. Those who claim they will not vote for Sanders/Clinton versus Trump are almost as bad as those who willingly vote for Trump. Whereas some are claiming they will never vote for "X" if s/he is the democratic nominee, I will forever see them as enemies to GLBT issues, choice, and a variety of other liberal issues and will never want to hear them crow about how they are champions for the oppressed.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
17. I totally agree with your point that it shows an appalling lack of solidarity with the oppressed.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:35 AM
Mar 2016

I cannot imagine letting Trump to be elected by failing to unite behind the Democratic candidate in the general election, just for the smug "I told you so" satisfaction of rigid ideological purity. It reminds me of a very ugly brand of Fundamentalist self-righteousness that would be glad to send everyone else to hell.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
14. Nice, but isn't that a low bar?
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:07 AM
Mar 2016

I'm a Democrat. So would I be even better than Trump, despite the fact that I have zero qualifications besides my party affiliation?

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
22. i said any Democrat that could get the nomination
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:41 AM
Mar 2016

if you're going to pretend to refer to what i said, you could try a little harder to act like you actually read what i said.

 

DrBulldog

(841 posts)
15. Only one problem with that voting strategy . . .
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:10 AM
Mar 2016

. . . Bernie is the only Democrat that has a damn good likelihood of beating Trump because he does NOT represent the Establishment. Trump will tear Hillary apart.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
23. i disagree with that
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:42 AM
Mar 2016

while i don't discount his chances of winning, i do think if he mounted the right campaign, he could win.

that said, i think there are more paths to a win for Hillary and her campaign than for his.

Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
18. I agree
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:47 AM
Mar 2016

A rethuglican, especially a Trump rethuglican, is not an option for the white house. Hillary may not be my choice for economic reasons, but for social reasons she will be our champion if she wins.

betsuni

(25,473 posts)
20. Me too.
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 05:56 AM
Mar 2016

Both candidates have strengths and weaknesses of course. I saw a story on ABC's Nightline today about that American astronaut who spent a year in space. His return to Earth was compared to the astronaut in "Planet of the Apes" -- the scene at the end where Charlton Heston screams when he realizes what happened while he was away -- how you'd feel if you came back and found out that Trump is the front runner for President. Funny!

I read too much GDP tonight and think I'll have trouble getting to sleep. Have to check under the bed and in the closet, leave a nightlite on. Scared of the Hillary Monster.

still_one

(92,176 posts)
26. I agree, but would like to add, I would vote for the Democratic nominee against any of the
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 10:55 AM
Mar 2016

republican candidates


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