Just Released: New Massachusetts poll (Suffolk U): Clinton 50 - Sanders 42

[brooklynite]

Details to follow

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. What fault will be found with Bay State voters?

Too many college graduates?


Too many people with graduate degrees?


Was the only state that didn't vote for the winning presidential candidate in 1972?

[brooklynite]

2. I think it's the accents...

That, and the baked beans.

[NurseJackie]

19. Wicked funny!

[iandhr]

25. Hahvard not feelin the behn?

[George II]

35. Down here in CT, when they drive like idiots we call them Massholes. But politically I love them!

[iandhr]

48. I am a New Yorker but I live in Boston now.

People here wear the Masshole label with tremendous pride.

[George II]

50. LOVE that NYR avatar! I'll be up there in 13 days to watch the Islanders beat the Bruins!

[yardwork]

24. It's actually a southern state, you see.

It will be explained to us, in patient condescending tones, that Massachusetts is part of the Deep South and that a master-slave culture persists in Boston and its environs. Also, there aren't many colleges and universities in Massachusetts so the voters there are low-info.

[iandhr]

28. +1

[George II]

37. Ever since MA flipped to Clinton a week or so ago, I started saying that.........

...........Sanders' southern firewall was the border between VT and MA!

[PatrynXX]

40. all I know is Republicans refer Mass as

Taxachusets O_O guess that means it's heavily taxed

[Yavin4]

45. And they don't use social media or have access to the internet

They get their news from mainstream media sources, so they're informed, critical thinkers.

[George II]

67. It's south of Vermont, so that figures.........

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

41. According to Bernie fanatics, they are stupid and voting against their best interests, too...

...just like us black folk.

Who knew?

I'm here in Maryland, and Hillary is beating Bernie by nearly a 10 to 1 margin among blacks and Latinos. Black voters here are some of the most highly-educated in the country. Women are beating him by a wide margin as well.

Hey, they're all stupid and don't know what's good for them, according to these people.

[rbrnmw]

70. does that make me doubly stupid?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

71. Uh-huh. xoxo! :)

[still_one]

56. Because Elizabeth Warren isn't endorsing him. It is all her fault

[BlueMTexpat]

3. Massachusetts will follow SC and the rest

of the South UTB.

There's almost no room left.

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. That one's gotta sting

Oooof.

[Persondem]

5. Very cool. Dare I wonder if Clinton is gaining on Sanders in VT?? K & R nt

[Agschmid]

6. Fingers crossed!

If Warren had endorsed him he would have easily won Mass.

[Dem2]

7. LINK

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/02/28/hillary-clinton-holds-eight-point-edge-over-bernie-sanders-in-massachusetts/?_r=1

I just came here to post this.

[Hillary4Prez2016]

9. Thanks

Appreciate it

[Joe the Revelator]

11. Ugh

[Vote2016]

8. Suffolk had Sanders beating Hillary by only 9%. By Suffolk math, Sanders is winning Massachusetts

[Joe the Revelator]

10. Not to be Debbie Downer, but if he doesn't win MA, this is effectively over.

He can lose a lot Tuesday, but he has to win SOMEWHERE outside of Vermont. If not the narrative is just going to be too much.

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. That's a clear-sighted view of the thing

I think there are four must wins: Colorado, Minnesota, Massachusetts, and, of course, Vermont.

A loss in any of those will be very damaging to the Sanders campaign/movement. A loss in Massachusetts would be the worst outside of Vermont (let's stipulate that Bernie will win Vermont in the 3-1 or better range).

[LiberalFighter]

33. Winning states is not the key. Winning delegates is.

[still_one]

57. Actually if you win states you win delegates. Same as the electoral college

[LiberalFighter]

68. Not every state is equal in number of delegates.

If they were your statement would be true.

[Pauldg47]

23. I did some math.....

I think he needs at least three states on Tuesday to have some momentum. Ibut I can't figure he'd lose Ma.

[firebrand80]

12. Why should MA choose our nominee? nt

[sufrommich]

13. Is Mass.a super Tuesday state? nt

[Joe the Revelator]

14. T'is

[sufrommich]

15. Thank you. nt

[Hillary4Prez2016]

16. This would not be good for Bernie

He really needs to do well in the 4 states up for grabs. It's the difference between an absolutely horrendous and pretty bad --but recoverable -- night.

[JaneyVee]

17. K AND R!

[Jitter65]

20. Suspicious...is this a way to excite Bernie supporters to get out and vote?

I thought Mass was in the bag for Bernie?

[Hillary4Prez2016]

21. No

Vermont is the one that is in the bag, this one has been seen as a toss-up for a little while now

[vdogg]

55. To be fair

Before this week, they were saying he would likely win Mass.

[DCBob]

22. WOW!! Huuuuuuge!

That's could be the ballgame folks.

[Kang Colby]

26. K&R! eom

[FloridaBlues]

27. If he loses Mass it's all over but the crying for him

[LexVegas]

29. Thats a virtual tie. nt

[SunSeeker]

58. LOL

[book_worm]

30. Massachusetts is a must-win state for Sanders

[tarheelsunc]

31. Must be skewed or establishment lies /sarcasm eom

[book_worm]

32. Here's more details from their twitter page

David Paleologos ?@davidpaleologos 1h1 hour ago
SUPRC Mass. Democratic poll fav/unfav shows Sanders slightly more popular in Bay State: Sanders (71-16) versus Clinton (67-23)

More
David Paleologos ?@davidpaleologos 1h1 hour ago
SUPRC - Clinton strongest among women, minorities, Dems and middle/older while Sanders topped among men, Indies, young, and Western Mass.

[book_worm]

34. If I were a Bernie fan I'd wonder why Elizabeth Warren isn't endorsing him

since they are supposed to be soul mates. It could have made the difference in MA.

[basselope]

36. Bernie wins MA

[book_worm]

39. He may but it will be a very narrow victory if he does

and if he does it is one of his must-win states. However, if Hillary wins it it is a big blow to his campaign. She can get away with losing it--he can't.

[basselope]

44. He can lose by a close margin and it is still a victory.

It is a MUST WIN for Clinton.

[JaneyVee]

52. Umm...what? Do you know how delegates work?

[basselope]

59. Yes. PLENTY to go around after ST

[book_worm]

53. Sorry, but its really a must win for Bernie

and I think you really deep down know that.

[basselope]

60. No, it is a must win for Hillary.

There are much larger states coming down the line (like California) where he will dominate her.

[Godhumor]

66. How on earth do you figure he will dominate California?

MA is part of his NE firewall. If he can't hold that, well...

[book_worm]

69. Really? One state? She is leading in NY, PA, OH, MI, NJ, IL, TX, FL

and you think one state will make the difference and based on what? there haven't been any new polls. Even if he won CA it wouldn't be a landslide and she will win most if not all the ones I mention above.

[basselope]

77. Very VERY tenuous leads in NY, PA, OH, NJ, IL and FL

She'll win TX.. MI is still up for grabs.

[Codeine]

73. Dominate her in California?

Dude, even in Clinton's failed campaign against the incredibly charismatic Barack Obama she managed to win California. Sanders won't "dominate" her here. Even if he managed a win it would be a squeaker with no real margin of delegates. Clinton has the Asian vote, the Hispanic vote, and the African-American vote.

Do you not get the math? He needs BIG wins in BIG states to make up for the shellacking he's about to get. California isn't going to be a BIG win for him. Where will he pick up the kind of margins that will propel him past the very large delegate advantage Super Tuesday is going to give her? They're going to pretty much split MA. He can win MN, but by a lot? Probably not, and it's not a big delegate haul. Colorado? Again, any win will be close, with little advantage going to Sanders.

[basselope]

74. Sanders dominates her in California.

BTW. he has the Hispanic vote.

[Codeine]

75. Dream on, dude. I live here.

He will not "dominate" her, guaranteed.

[basselope]

76. I live here too.

He will dominate her.

100's of Sanders bumper stickers... tens of thousands showing up to Sanders Rallies.

I was BEGGED to help fill out a Clinton "rally" (dinner at a celeb's house). Price started at 2K per plate. I could have gotten in for $250 just so they had enough people to fill up the room.

I said no.

She has no support here.

[Codeine]

78. No support? She's up 11 points in polling

over Sanders. I know #berniemath is some creative shit, but how on Earth is an eleven point lead "no support"?

[basselope]

80. lol.. a poll in december.

She has no support here.

We're smart people.

[Codeine]

81. I suppose I can't logic you out of a position

you didn't logic your way into.

[basselope]

83. you didnt provide logic

you provided 2 month old poll numbers and false statements.

Clinton gets CRUSHED in CA

[Codeine]

84. CRUSHED!!!

Care to quantify "crushed"? I'm honestly curious what you think he's got going on for a California margin? 15 point lead? 20?

[basselope]

87. An easy 10+ point win.

[Codeine]

88. Fair enough.

We shall see.

[Trust Buster]

38. I got it !!! Boston had a Tea Party once. See the connection ?

[Gothmog]

42. Nate Siilver ranked Mass. as one of Sanders best states with respect to demographics

Nate Silver ranked Mass. as the 4th best state for Sanders http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bernie-sanders-could-win-iowa-and-new-hampshire-then-lose-everywhere-else/

?w=575

[Yavin4]

43. We should just ignore red states like Massachusetts

What have they ever done for the Democratic party any way?

[Trust Buster]

49. Are these the same pollsters that had Romney beating Obama a WEEK before the election ?

[Trust Buster]

54. Wouldn't it be important to at least see Hillary and Trump side by side on a debate stage

before relevant data can be collected ?

[riversedge]

61. Good. This is the 2nd poll with Hillary leading in Massachusetts

[Barack_America]

62. "No we can't" takes the lead!

[Thinkingabout]

63. Great news, she has a lot of volunteers working for her, thanks.

[cs1058]

64. Real Clear Politics average-1.5% spread

interesting. even with Suffolk poll RCP has the race within 1.5%

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ma/massachusetts_democratic_presidential_primary-3891.html

[bigtree]

65. I've felt for a while now that Hillary will win Mass. by a comfortable margin

...lots of party regulars in that state.

[msanthrope]

72. Shit....when did they join the Confederacy? Nt

[NurseJackie]

79. Oopf! Good one! :-D

[MineralMan]

82. Isn't Stockholm Boston's Sister City?

Stuff is catching...