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Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:41 AM Feb 2016

Hillary doesn't need progressives to win. We're an afterthought for her.

She doesn't need progressives, greens or socialists. The Democrat's strategy to win the general election is for massive turnout among Democratic party loyalists.

They are working overtime to marginalize the left and our ideas. They ran a Republican anti-tax campaign against us. They laughed at ideas like universal public provision of health insurance.

The Democrats are happy to have our votes, but give us nothing material in exchange. It's a completely capitalist political party that no longer offers anything but capitalist answers to our troubles. Their top priority is protecting the right of corporations to profit. They offer war and endless conflict abroad, and a long slow painful rusting away at home. American civil society is being eaten up by the corporate state one sidewalk at a time, one school at a time. And the Democratic party are the ones doing it. Democratic politicians run all the major cities. And every one of them is a disaster zone where land devlopers are guaranteed to right to profit, while great numbers of people struggle everyday to access the most basic needs of life.

The Democrats take our votes for granted. They don't need us to win. They have it locked so much that they feel free to marginalize us at every level every day.

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Hillary doesn't need progressives to win. We're an afterthought for her. (Original Post) Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 OP
... Sure says a lot. Agschmid Feb 2016 #1
This progressives is voting for Hillary. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #2
Then she can go without me. VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #3
She got 70% of the "very liberal" vote in SC book_worm Feb 2016 #4
I'll never vote FOR her, but will vote against the GOP. But no money at all. Or help. nt Logical Feb 2016 #5
She might not need me, but she has me. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #6
The Democratic Party today stands for nothing. They are the party for Corporate Interest$, RiverLover Feb 2016 #7
independents Locrian Feb 2016 #8
Gallup poll: 43% of voters are independents. n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #9
The Third Way has told us they don't need us. HooptieWagon Feb 2016 #10
"massive turnout among Democratic party loyalists."... SidDithers Feb 2016 #11
the progs ARE the party stalwarts: she wants to win by discouraging indeps from going Trump MisterP Feb 2016 #12

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
3. Then she can go without me.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:48 AM
Feb 2016

I refuse to support someone who advocates "interventionism"; which is really just war dressed up and made pretty so we can say that we're "peace-keeping". I refuse to support someone who puts safety before privacy, security before freedom; and someone who would advocate that does not have my respect. Will never gain my respect.

So really? It's for the best she doesn't need us.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
4. She got 70% of the "very liberal" vote in SC
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:48 AM
Feb 2016

This progressive supports HRC--and apparently a lot of others do too.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
7. The Democratic Party today stands for nothing. They are the party for Corporate Interest$,
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:53 AM
Feb 2016

along with republicans.

Its heartbreaking.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
8. independents
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:13 PM
Feb 2016

>>She doesn't need progressives, greens or socialists. The Democrat's strategy to win the general election is for massive turnout among Democratic party loyalists.

I believe those are the least of her worries.

She needs the independents. And the one thing the Bernie/Trump shows is that independents do. not. want. insiders.

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