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[BillyDawg]

1. And under the bus goes..

South Carolina!!

[DURHAM D]

2. LOL

That didn't take long.

[ucrdem]

5. Iggy for SC.

Last edited Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Buh bye SC!



.........

ETA: lest there be any doubt, I strongly object to sentiments expressed in the OP, so I'm adding the sarcasm smilie I left off originally. And for the record I'm 100% grateful to SC Dems for choosing wisely in yesterday's primary. And yes the whole world is watching:

[RobertEarl]

13. Yall ever been there?

It's bad.

[ucrdem]

17. add these to your iggy list:

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

[misterhighwasted]

120. Oh no, only half hour into the SC count & its, HRC 81% - bernie19%

SC voters now set the pace for the real revolution. Our First Woman President & a true loyal & proud Democrat, Hillary Clinton

We are a more fortunate nation after tonight.
Thank you SC & Thank you Hillary Clinton.
Happy Birthday Chelsea!! Great night for a party

[AngryAmish]

255. You forgot Poland.

[Gothmog]

77. I just erased my response because this post is so bad and offensive

[obamanut2012]

95. Ditto

[SCantiGOP]

179. Probably the most spiteful OP

in at least the last week.
I expected to see it though.
Poster probably doesn't even know, or care, that Statewide Democratic candidates average about 45% of the vote in recent elections. We do have a viable Party here, and most of my sane Republican friends are horrified by Trump and Cruz.

[Gothmog]

212. BernieBros do exist

[cwydro]

245. That's a disgusting OP - you are so right.

I have black and white friends in SC.

All of them are capable of making up their own minds quite well.

We're gonna be seeing some really sour grapes around here soon,

[Hortensis]

250. I say, yes, bernistas, by all means, you ignore SC.

If it makes them happy. Only among the first in a very long list of states that just don't count.

[grossproffit]

337. Especially after Trump's David Duke no comment, comment.

That was the last straw for some.

[SCantiGOP]

349. Original post is outright racist

Clinton is winning this big because she got 86% of the African American vote. Yet the original poster here says he is "calling out racism."??

Are all of the black voters in SC among the meanest people you have ever met? This post should have been banned; it certainly should be taken down.

[Rebkeh]

81. I have

It is bad. Real bad.

But it's still not fair to paint the entire state with one brush.

[cwydro]

261. Bless your heart.

[Roland99]

171. Curious...what's w/the rainbow HRC logo?

Esp considering she was against same-sex marriage until very recently.

[DURHAM D]

191. I am a member of the LGBT community.

I first met Hillary in 1977 when I was introduced to her by my partner. They have known each other since law school and were working together on a project for President Carter.

I know everything about her history with my community and have no interest in your opinion.

[sheshe2]

224. ...

[riversedge]

253. Nicely said.

[Roland99]

256. Interesting....

[cwydro]

260. Great post!

Wish I could rec it.

Perfectly put.

[Loki]

347. Bravo!

[yardwork]

355. ....

[wyldwolf]

3. and it's 61% African American voters. How 'progressive' of the OP

[azurnoir]

41. that 61% wasn't enough to swing the state to Dems in either 'o8 or 12 in the GE

so SC may help get Hillary the nomination but it will not help her get the Presidency

[wyldwolf]

45. How is that even relevant to this discussion ?

[azurnoir]

48. It's a fact getting what you want in the small picture means nada in the big picture

[wyldwolf]

55. Read the OP - the discussion is about whether the SC vote should be ignored

[azurnoir]

76. and you got my reply

[Generic Brad]

174. Much like Bernie's win in New Hampshire

Got it.

[Number23]

202. Funny how a Dem only primary in a majority AA state with large #s of delegates is to be "ignored"

but lily white NH with its open primary and half the number of delegates is all about TeH RevOlution!1one!

[Number23]

267. That has nothing to do with a primary

Absolutely nothing.

And the fact that most of those northern states have about 1/3 of the populations of the Southern states, as well as large numbers of minorities, makes them all the more important.

[Matt_R]

358. So you don't see the correlation with voters in the south picking the most....

conservative democratic candidate in history, over the best shot we have to fixing this corrupt system.

The system that pick the wealthy over any minority?

[Number23]

359. So let me get this straight, Hillary winning in GA, Texas and other massive Southern states

somehow means nothing to you because she allegedly won't win them in the GE? By your logic, Sanders should have already dropped out. He won't win them either and has lost even large Northern states as well.

Your argument is nonsensical.

[Number23]

362. Yeah, Massachusetts is as red a state as it gets

I have never laughed so hard as I have the last few days reading these mindless posts.

And winning by 1 point makes all the difference in the delegate count which is the only thing that matters now. Losing a 40 point lead and winning by 20 is still a big assed, butt whipping win. And she won multiple states tonight by over 30 points.

[Number23]

366. That was my point, Einstein. You don't know what you're arguing at all, do you?

That's okay. I'm sure most of the folks reading your posts in this thread don't know either.

[still_one]

52. I know this is hard for some to comprehend, but when a person becomes president, that person

is president of everyone, including those who didn't vote for them

If we start to write off states that we don't think will vote for us, then why would they?

[Karma13612]

117. How is it NOT relevant?

The whole point of elections/and Democratic Underground is to get our candidate into the White House.

[lancer78]

104. It was closer

then texas or Loiusiana. PBO only lost SC by like 7-9 points.

[jsmirman]

110. Listen up buddy

the Democratic party would be FUCKED without the incredible loyalty the black population has consistently shown, election after election.

No group is more loyal or reliable - the black vote is the very backbone of this party.

They damn well should have a hefty say in who the nominee is.

Because any nominee of ours wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell without the black vote.

[Cary]

129. You got that right

And I am proud to be part.of that party!

[bvf]

265. Thanks for the giggle. Well done.

[brush]

240. What a brilliant observation (NOT)

Democrats won in both '08 and '12.

But we're talking about the primary and getting enough delegates to get the nomination so your post means nothing.

Our nominee, most likely Clinton now given today's result in SC, will win with or without SC in the general just like Obama did.

[William769]

308. Didn't help Barack Obama either.

Where has he been for the past eight years?

Oh excuse me that's President Barack Obama. I guess that tells us where's he's been.

[azurnoir]

309. Hillary is no Barack as last nights turn in SC showed

eta it was 12.5% of the eligible Democratic voters yes she won but there apparently wasn't much enthusiasm

[William769]

317. And apparently none for Bernie.

[PatrynXX]

167. hey they are supposed to be among Trumps biggest supporters

go figure

[LuvLoogie]

12. For all the lamenting of Dean's 50 state strategy...

why do they resent Hillary's 50 state campaign?

[basselope]

172. B/c she isn't trying a 50 state campaign. Just the red states.

Where she can't win in the general election.

[LuvLoogie]

266. Really? Here is an overview of her organization and

An article announcing a nationwide kick off.

http://www.p2016.org/clinton/clintonorg.html

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/239725-clinton-campaign-launches-nationwide-organizing-push

[basselope]

268. Making an announcement and executing on it are two different things.

Clinton's should well be aware of THAT.

[LuvLoogie]

272. Tell me which states Hillary's campaign abandoned or in which she has no office, operation or

representative working for the campaign. So far, her execution has her ahead in the primary in delegates, super delegates, and the popular vote.

[basselope]

284. You confuse the entire issue..

Just "having an office" doesn't mean she is really trying.

She gave up on New Hampshire.. she put in a show, but had changed her whole message aimed towards South Carolina.

She has chosen a red state strategy and hopes she will do well enough on Super Tuesday to dampen the later states Sanders will win (like California).

Either way, she can't win the general election.

[ismnotwasm]

22. No shit!

[vdogg]

33. Lmao

Did not take long did it? He's gonna have to write up 12 of these on Super Tuesday.

[demwing]

36. its ridiculous to have SC as the first in the South Dem Primary

full of confederate flag waving bigots, never votes Democratic, yet we pretend it's an important state for our primary purposes. Stupid.

[PeaceNikki]

53. It's ridiculous that you think they shouldn't be engaged in the process in a meaningful way.

[Nonhlanhla]

73. You mean unlike Iowa and New Hampshire

which are majority white states?

Given that the majority of whites vote Republican, and Dems only win elections if racial/ethnic minorities vote for them, Iowa and NH are even more ridiculous.

[Ed Suspicious]

83. Why did you skip Nevada?

[Nonhlanhla]

90. Because Nevada is not subject to the same point, obviously.

I don't really care which states go first. My point is a simple one: complaining that SC should not go early because they are not majority Dem, is silly given the fact that the two very first states are not at all representative of the Dem Party as a whole. Nevada is more representative.

[Gothmog]

86. The first two states were 90%+ white voting states

Why are Iowa and New Hampshire representative of anything?

[jsmirman]

114. I'll repeat myself

the Democratic party would be FUCKED without the incredible loyalty the black population has consistently shown, election after election.

No group is more loyal or reliable - the black vote is the very backbone of this party.

They damn well should have a hefty say in who the nominee is.

Because any nominee of ours wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell without the black vote.

So there's every reason that states where black voters are well represented should play a heavy role in our primary process.

Your post is really poor.

[2banon]

133. How come S.C. is so RED then?

If the majority of the population of South Carolina is Black and Democratic party loyalists, why do they keep electing Repukes up and down the ticket over these past several decades?

[jsmirman]

137. It's kind of amazing how little you understood my post

and I'd like to know whether or not you support the message of the OP.

As of 2000, SC's black population represented 30% of the population (69% of the population is white). How do you not know this?

[2banon]

145. Right. That's why it's a Red State and why It should not be given this

level of significance in the Democratic Party campaign.

Indeed, South Carolina should NOT be considered more important than say, California for instance, one of the most demographically diverse states in the entire country.

But hey, whatever. If you're a South Carolinian, enjoy your victory and don't get nasty with me. I'm not your target here.

[jsmirman]

156. Your ability to miss the point is quite something

nm

[iandhr]

194. South Carolina demographics.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/45000.html


The state is 68.3% white 27.8% black.


The majority of the Democratic Party primary is black because the party in the south is majority black.

[2banon]

209. thanks for the stats and the source.

As we always have in the past, we shall continue to put South Carolina in the Republican column in the G.E. in advance of the General Elections, cuz that's how South Carolina rolls, until Whites are no longer a majority, there.

Side note:

I've often said in recent years, that progressives should have made a point decades ago to populate en masse the Southern and Midwestern states, and produce at least a half dozen children to ensure a progressive society/culture for later decades. We blew it by being concerned of over populating the planet and it's impact on the environment and ecosystems. When in fact, Conservative Corporatist/Capitalist has done more harm to the environment and our society as over these decades than any amount of environmentally-conscience children/adults would have.

i still think it's a good idea. it would take 21 years before we'd actually see the needed demographic changes in the electorate in these "Red States" required to flip the south once and for all..

if only.

[onenote]

313. Now I get it. Your posts are satire.

Its the only thing that makes sense.

But if I'm wrong, I'm curious to know whether you live in a midwestern or southern state and if not, why haven't you moved (lead by example) and if so, how many children do you have?

[Bohunk68]

335. Interesting proposition about populating the South.

My Dem brother moved down there in the mid '70's. Right now he would be rolling over in his grave, if he were not in an urn, to see his children and their spouses all voting Rethuglican. It's gotta be something in the water.

[SCantiGOP]

259. AA make up 30% of population

But comprise about 60% if Dem voters

[2banon]

263. Very important during the primaries..

But not so much during the General in terms of campaigning there as far as the Democratic party is concerned, I would imagine.

Thanks for that stats!

[jsmirman]

176. Whut? What is up with the posts

from people being so unbelievably thick tonight?

[jsmirman]

190. I'm just going to pass on commenting on your anecdote

I can't do this.

You're not helping your candidate, that's all I'll say.

[stevenleser]

219. Right, those black voters who voted for Hillary tonight are Confederate flag waving bigots

wtf?

[onenote]

312. Since you're not suggesting that Democrats (the majority of whom are AA) in SC are

confederate flag waving bigots, I'm not sure what the point of your post is. That only Democrats in states that historically (or recently?) voted for Democrats for President should have a say in who the party's nominee is?

If that's your point, why not just say it. There are western states that had nothing to do with the confederacy that vote repub most of the time. Presumably, you think the Democrats in those states shouldn't get a say?

Not a big fan of Dean's 50-state strategy, I guess.

[NastyRiffraff]

84. Of course!

That was completely expected.

[DemocratHeart]

126. Racist garbage

We blacks aren't stupid. We ain't slaves no more. You NEED us to win. Keep talking your crap. It's gonna be you who loses.

[Cary]

131. I'm sorry for the nastiness here

[PatrynXX]

164. more like the other way around

SC will throw Hillary under the bus and right fast

[shenmue]

169. Yeah, must be a big bus - that's an entire state

[Hortensis]

247. LOL. Grind, squeal! Bernistas, you need a bigger bus.

[CreekDog]

326. Here's why we should ignore RobertEarl:

RobertEarl (6,960 posts)
23. Yeah, and it is time to do this

Everyone needs to come to grips with the fact that the privileged white male has been very, very good for this society. That thru that privilege our human society have great things upon which our easy lives' rest. Our unions and our work ethic have resulted in all of us living like only the few kings and queens did 100 years ago.

I am a wm and I'm proud and privileged.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2139120

RobertEarl (2,748 posts)
52. My opinion

Since our society is making progress and slowly dropping the wall of privilege, or glass ceiling, the society as a whole will improve. Be better.

But it is what it is and we can thank the wm, as a whole, for producing the easy life we now enjoy. The US and Europe have it very, very good historically, and imo, it has to do with the affirmative action the wm embraced and made good with.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2139421

[Capt. Obvious]

351. So was your main account banned?

"MIRT believes this is a sock puppet account created to circumvent temporary suspension"

[winter is coming]

4. I don't think we should ignore any state's vote.

OTOH, inflating it into the game-changer of all time is equally silly.

[AlbertCat]

98. this^

It's still early in the process.

Let Hillary and her supporters enjoy their victory in SC.

It's the only victory in SC Hillary will ever have.

[JimDandy]

111. Yes, it's become silly time in the Clinton Group.

She was expected to win SC and she will. Am just waiting patiently until Bernie's states come in to play

[themaguffin]

200. Someone says to ignore SC results, but it's "silly time in the Clinton Group" Got it.

[yardwork]

295. You missed them. Iowa and New Hampshire were Bernie's states.

There aren't many left. Hillary is even leading in Massachusetts.

[NCTraveler]

6. Thank you for sharing.

Here's why we should ignore SC vote


Exit polls from SC show 19% want more progress, the other 81% are happy with the way things are or want to go backward.



1% of the under 30 crowd voted and it's probably because they are scared.

Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states with some of the meanest people I have ever met. It is not far from being a slave state again, only the federal government keeps it from doing so.

SC retains the Master/servant style of population. Hillary represents the master class well, with her riches and standing. Bernie, being Jewish and a white male has three strikes against him.

The poor people of that state have my utmost sympathy. They have been beaten down and oppressed for so long they don't know what's up.

RobertEarl

[Rose Siding]

237. I just can't even

To any AA reading this, to any South Carolinian, I'm on this board but I denounce and condemn this op. The recs are a judgement on this "community".

I'm so sorry you ever had to see it, sorry that anyone, would say such ugly things. The things said are obscene and hateful. No temporal loss of a primary justify them.

I'm just sorry.

[NCTraveler]

238. Yeah. Pretty messed up.

Thankfully there are many from all groups who condemn it. Your words are kind and I have to believe represent the sentiment of a majority of posters.

[Rose Siding]

239. This is one of the first people who came to mind

when I stopped to think about what this op actually said.

This is Wille Mae and the young woman is a Clinton volunteer who took her to her polling place today. Wille Mae voted for Hillary. She's 93 and hasn't missed an election.

She went to segregated schools her whole life. She thinks women have come a long way, but need equal pay.



This is target of the op. These women.

Yeah. Pretty messed up.

[SCantiGOP]

356. She's much better looking and a whole lot younger

than I was when I spent election day 1972 back in my home district (they wouldn't let college students vote where they went to school) driving voters, mainly elderly black folks, to the polls.

I got home after a 12 hour day exhausted and, since my marginal vehicle didn't even have a radio, didn't find out until I walked into my apartment that they had called the election for Nixon about 7:30. Still, I was glad I had done my part for the Democratic Party in South Carolina.

Very heartening to see this picture and think about what it represents, especially since Dems are much more marginalized in SC now than they were in 1972.

Thanks for the post.

[jezebel]

7. you may not have meant it that way, but your whole post reads as so

dismissive and offensive.

[RobertEarl]

20. SC can be very offensive

Oh, there's some good people there. It's not totally a wasteland, but as far as representing the future and the Democratic party? Well, just ignore that.

[Gothmog]

87. And two 90+% white states like Iowa and New Hampshire are representative of the party?

The first two states were Iowa and New Hampshire each with 90+% white voting populations. How are these states representative of the base of the Democratic party?

[SCantiGOP]

342. RobertEarl says: "there's some good people there."

Donald Trump says, "They're bringing in drugs, they're rapists...but some of them are good people."

You don't get to walk back bigoted comments. Re-read the original post, where he talks about the meanest people he's ever seen.
This was really the most disgusting post I've ever read on here that wasn't removed and banned immediately.

[KingFlorez]

8. Whatever makes you feel better

Someone clearly is comfort talking...

[sufrommich]

9. 55% of SC primary voters are African Americans. I'm sure they'll appreciate

your utter contempt.

[RobertEarl]

23. I feel bad for them

They have been oppressed for centuries. SC just did take down the confederate flag. That says a lot about the oppression, eh?

[sufrommich]

26. The African American turnout was 61% today. Are you saying they were forced by

racists to vote? Your OP is a perfect example of this:

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Md58cebf4f8bf93c18de268b0d2666503H2&pid=15.1

[NCTraveler]

34. They are showing up...

And voting against the current of the system in their own state. Standing up, taking art, and going the exact opposite direction you are claiming.

Some of what you say rings very true. The connection itself is offensive and not accurate.

[PeaceNikki]

57. No, you just said they should be ignored.

[yardwork]

228. They don't need or want your pity.

The racist condescension in these posts is just incredible.

[stevenleser]

220. They're confederate flag waving bigots according to a post upthread, haven't you heard?

The disgusting and outright crazy posts here are ridiculous.

[grossproffit]

10. "SC retains the Master/servant style of population.?"

Unbelievable.

[firebrand80]

15. Damn, I skimmed over that part

I should be surprised, but I'm not

[RobertEarl]

24. The confederate flag was flying recently.

Do you understand what that means? It represented master/slave history.

[joshcryer]

31. Yeah, because 61% of Dem electorate support the confederate flag.

[KelleyD]

152. You need to be a human being and delete this post...n/t

[firebrand80]

11. We should also ignore NV, and maybe IA nt

[hobbit709]

14. "South Carolina. Too small to be a republic, too large to be an insane asylum"

Truer words were never spoken.

[Smarmie Doofus]

16. Nullification. Secession. Strom Thurmond-ization.

Clinton did well here.

I'm shocked.

[redstateblues]

123. Another sore loser

[tammywammy]

18. What a disgusting post. n/t

[LexVegas]

19. And there it is. nt

[kstewart33]

21. Wait a minute. Bernie spent a lot of time campaigning with young people.

He's tried his hardest to spur young people to join the Revolution in South Carolina. The young people responded by not voting.

And they're afraid? Of what? Bernie's platform and electability?

Or much more likely, is it because they behaved like most young people do, and so they did not vote.

Your trashing an entire state because evidently voters did not support your candidate, is priceless. Of the worst kind.

[ucrdem]

25. They also responded by not showing up.

On the eve of South Carolina’s Democratic presidential primary, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) spoke in a mostly empty gymnasium at the historically black Claflin University in Orangeburg.

link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-south-carolina-bill-clinton_us_56d1d0b8e4b0871f60eb9d9e

[vdogg]

82. ...

[RobertEarl]

28. I have sympathy for the poor people there

SC deserves reparations for slavery.

[cherokeeprogressive]

35. Tell me why DUers talk shit about Texas, Texans, and The South in general.

[kstewart33]

44. I don't know. My best guess:

Texas and the South are conservative, rarely resulting in big Democratic wins.

I grew up in the South. I get frustrated with the conservatism and especially racism in the South, but I stop far short of stereotyping states as ignorant, back woods and so forth, simply because they don't support candidates that I do.

The situation and the makeup of these states is far more complex than the stereotypes that I'm reading tonight on this forum.

[zappaman]

27. Lol!

You are easily, by far, the funniest poster on DU!

I salute you!

[joshcryer]

29. 2-5 keep.

Would appreciate the jury results. Baffling.

[Gothmog]

89. Agreed

[mcar]

99. Amazing, isn't it

This is just sad.

[thelordofhell]

101. I was Juror #1........I can't believe this post wasn't Hidden

Disgusting........


On Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:58 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Here's why we should ignore SC vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511355553

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Personally insults an entire state and their Democratic voters.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:06 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Feel The Bern......Of being hidden for insulting thousands of Democratic voters
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: What a stupid alert.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: SC is not a blue state, it's generally backward and full of racists. Facts are facts.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I have relatives in SC and travel extensively there. I have yet to meet a mean South Carolinian.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[tammywammy]

109. Sad jury results

☹

[SidDithers]

125. Alert on the jury results...

Juror #3 should be brought to the attention of Admins.

Sid

[Gothmog]

151. Agreed

[KelleyD]

161. Agreed...total troll...n/t

[JTFrog]

186. Maybe there is comfort in the fact that admin have banned members even when

their blatantly bigoted shit wasn't hidden by an obviously biased jury. Maybe.

[Rose Siding]

257. The problem is that those beliefs are validated unless they are condemned

They look around and see wow a majority is down with this crap. Then comes the imagined internet requirement to go further, become more outrageous.

The devolution of values may be the lasting residual of the revolution.

[jsmirman]

121. Stunning

but I guess it's good that it remain as a testament to just how badly some have lost the plot.

That is a delete your account worthy post. Just really disgraceful, ugly stuff.

[McCamy Taylor]

278. You're kidding? Paternalism is ok at DU now?

[HereSince1628]

30. It's a recognized primary. It counts. Whatever happens it gets put with other results

That's the way it works.

If your candidate doesn't win, better luck in the downstream contests.
If your candidate does win, congratulations, see you in the contests downstream.

[DCBob]

32. LOL..

Sorry... the media, the campaigns and the voters on Super Tuesday wont ignore it.... because its big.

[vdogg]

37. I was gonna alert on this

But I'll let it stand in all its glorious stupidity.

[obamanut2012]

103. Exactly what I did

It's just.....

[beaglelover]

38. LOL!! Yeah, put your head in the sand. Ignore SC results. Will you ignore Super

Tuesday results as well?????

[frazzled]

39. Holy crap

That's all I have to say about this shocking post. Except that my husband is a white Jewish male born and bred in South Carolina. He's a strong Hillary supporter (after being a strong Obama supporter in 2008 and 2012). Doesn't live there anymore, but still.

Really???!? I can't even ... The ugliness is too much for me.

[yardwork]

231. I know. I alerted on the OP again to send to Admin for review.

It's one of the most blatantly bigoted things I've seen on DU. Posters have been banned for far less.

[MaggieD]

40. Dude

Not cool.

[ismnotwasm]

43. Nope

Not cool at all.

[nadinbrzezinski]

42. Please stop it...

[NCTraveler]

46. Ignore them?

On today, when you say that, it can only mean one thing. You are looking to ignore the same group of voters that the GOP ignores. In doing so, you are talking about destroying lives for decades more.

You see, the adults in the room will not ignore the results today. In '08 it went 54 to 45 McCaine. You want to ignore the group that the republicans ignore in that state? Hell no. They are going to deliver SC to the Democratic Party in the next decade because Republicans are ignore them and destroying a lot of their opportunity along the way.

I want a more just society. That doesn't happen by ignoring POC who are fighting. Don't ignore them, join them. The state will turn slowly. Don't take a stand that will in turn promote further oppressive policies. Do the exact opposite of ignore. Join the fight.

[cyberswede]

47. Ugh. I support Sanders, but your post is awful

First: we shouldn't ignore other voters
Second: that's some pretty racist shit you're saying about an entire state

[slipslidingaway]

49. I spent several hours calling voters in SC today and most were very pleasant and I disagree ...

that we should ignore the results.

[PeaceNikki]

50. Gross. You act like Obama is worse than Bush

[giftedgirl77]

51. Jajaja, don't like the outcome ignore it.

That's rational.

[Metric System]

54. Wow. And using master/servant when majority of Dem voters in SC are black?!?

[merrily]

56. We should ignore it because it's one state and one no one expected him to win.

So far, for Sanders, there was a tie in Iowa (at most), a narrow-ish loss in Nevada and a decisive win in NH. Now Hillary will have a decisive win too, just like her almost unkinown challenger. Big deal.

No hand-wringing, no despair, no complacency, no perseverating. Just keep volunteering and donating and let the campaign do the rest.

[stonecutter357]

58. .

[72DejaVu]

59. And the mask comes off

Maybe some Sanders folks will finally see the dark side of their movement that we've been trying to tell them about.

[slipslidingaway]

60. I will just add that Senator Sanders would say the poor and oppressed are in more need ...

of our support and voices.

[Starry Messenger]

61. IBTSD

Here's why we should ignore SC vote
Exit polls from SC show 19% want more progress, the other 81% are happy with the way things are or want to go backward.

1% of the under 30 crowd voted and it's probably because they are scared.

Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states with some of the meanest people I have ever met. It is not far from being a slave state again, only the federal government keeps it from doing so.

SC retains the Master/servant style of population. Hillary represents the master class well, with her riches and standing. Bernie, being Jewish and a white male has three strikes against him.

The poor people of that state have my utmost sympathy. They have been beaten down and oppressed for so long they don't know what's up.

[KitSileya]

241. How racist, and wrong.

Even if what RobertEarl is saying is right (but it isn't, it's incredibly racist), Bernie wouldn't have three strikes against him. He is white and male, and racists like white men. His only strike would be that he is Jewish, which would be a strike against him, but then Hillary would have a strike against her too, because she is a woman. To paraphrase Elizabeth Bennet, so far they are equal.

The dismissal of democratic voters as "not knowing what's up" is racists, just like Sanders had his unfortunate "you're smarter than that", i.e., you're smarter than the huge voting block who went for Hillary - when that huge voting block is majority black = racism. RobertEarl is saying racist things here, like his master did in his concession speech.

[NanceGreggs]

62. Here's why we should ignore the SC vote ...

... because Hillary is about to win it - BIG time!

You could have just posted that, instead of being ignorant and offensive.

If the exit polls show 81% of voters being happy with the way things are, that doesn't bode well for Bernie's "The People want a Revolution" meme, does it?

And why would the under-30 crowd be scared? Scared of what? What happened to all of those young first-time voters who were going to come out in droves for Bernie? I didn't hear Bernie qualify that by saying "except in some states".

[SidDithers]

63. Democrats in South Carolina don't count...

they shouldn't have any say in determining who becomes the Democratic nominee.

Is that really what you're saying?

So, poster, which states should determine who the Democratic nominee is?

Sid

[beachbumbob]

64. Obviously sander supporters want to ignore losses

...they will be saying the same on NY primary...Illinois primary....California primary..But hey look at we did in New Hampshire..

[RobertEarl]

66. Sanders will win California, NY etc.

And the nomination.

But as far as winning red states? Hillary has them.

[grossproffit]

71. Source, please?

[redstateblues]

124. What a pant load

[jsmirman]

130. He ain't winning in New York

she is very popular here and for good reason. Because despite being initially skeptical - I know I was - she turned out to be a great senator and a great representative of our proud state.

[Gothmog]

158. Last California poll had Sanders down 11%

Sanders is not polling well in California according to the latest polls that I have seen http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2522.pdf By the time California rolls around, the process will be over. Again with proportionate voting, it will be hard to catch Clinton after Super Tuesday. Losing California by 11 points is not a great way to become the nominee.

[NanceGreggs]

329. Why, I read right here on DU ...

... that he's going to win all 50 states!!!

How's that working out so far?

[awoke_in_2003]

65. I am a Bernie backer

And I would bet dollars to donuts that, had he won SC, you would be trumpeting what a great victory is was.

[RobertEarl]

69. Of course

It would have pretty much sealed Hillary's fate.

But those of us who know SC never expected that given all the establishment weight against Bernie, did he stand a chance there. Or most any other red state. They're red for a reason, right?

[zappaman]

142. Yeah, you really know SC.

[yardwork]

232. Are you aware that only Democrats vote in the Democratic primary?

The red voters - Republicans - aren't invited to vote in the Democratic primary. Maybe you didn't know that.

[onenote]

318. It truly seems as if the OP doesn't understand that. And as a Bernie supporter I apologize for his

ignorance. Which is the nicest thing that can be said about his post.

[yardwork]

336. Thanks. I appreciate that.

[onehandle]

67. Desperation. nt

[w4rma]

68. I'm not taking the advice of South Carolina Democrats. They haven't won a single statewide election.

South Carolina Democratic voters are political losers. They probably sabotage their best politicians for not being neoliberal enough.

They have elected exactly zero statewide Democrats. They have 6 Republicans in the U.S. House and Clyburn is the *only* Democratic Representative.

Their state legislature is either Super Majority or near-Super Majority Republican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Representatives_from_South_Carolina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_South_Carolina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_House_of_Representatives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Senate

[RobertEarl]

70. They don't have much power - Dems

SC doesn't like the Democratic party. Because LBJ gave the southerners too many free civil rights.

[w4rma]

79. Still. The Democrats in South Carolina clearly haven't been able to articulate a counter-message. nt

[RobertEarl]

85. Last I heard

SC has all electronic voting systems. Meaning no or very little paper for the ballots. These e-vote machines, you may remember, are what favored the bush 2004 selection and in most every other state have been trashed in favor of paper ballots.

[w4rma]

88. I did forget about that. Have Democrats in South Carolina tried to do *anything* to change that?

Hillary Clinton pushed for them in the "Help America Vote Act".

[RobertEarl]

94. Well, like you factually posted

Democrats don't have power in SC. So there is no way they can get the proper voting apparatus.

Basically, the establishment likes to be able to count the votes.

[w4rma]

97. True, but there are conservatives in South Carolina who distrust the things, too.

Democrats in South Carolina could work with the conservative voters to try to get rid of black box voting.

[BlueMTexpat]

72. What an offensive OP!

We all know the real reason for the sour grapes.

South Carolina Democratic primary live updates: Hillary Clinton looks to deliver a decisive win
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-live-updates-south-carolina-democratic-primary-trailguide-20160227-htmlstory.html

Your candidate will show class when he concedes. You should emulate his example.

[Gothmog]

75. The OP is truly offensive

[Gothmog]

74. All voters in the Democratic primary process need to be counted

I am shocked that this post survived an alert.

[Agschmid]

78. Unrec.

[Nonhlanhla]

80. What a miserable post. nt.

[dlwickham]

92. Racist sexist and anti-Semetic

Hit a triple

[mythology]

93. Yes, clearly being a white male is such an oppressive burden

God is this post offensive and uninformed. Thankfully you don't speak for Sanders.

[w4rma]

100. It has nothing to do with ethnicity. The exit polls say that conservatives and "moderates" dominate

the South Carolina primary. Clinton won those ideologies among black folks. Sanders edged out moderates to win among white folks and won liberals by 2 to 1.

[The Traveler]

96. As a Sanders supporter, I have to ask have you taken complete leave of your senses?

I mean no disrespect but, Great Scott! Was alcohol involved in the crafting of this post?

I understand frustration. You and I know from history and long experience that Clinton rhetoric is quite distinct from Clinton action. I predict that a second Clinton administration will just allow and/or enable more social and economic injustice on the black voters of South Carolina and, well, everywhere else.

But to suggest we ignore the voters and their decision is not only disrespectful and rude ... it is freaking stupid. Why did we lose South Carolina? BECAUSE WE FAILED TO MAKE OUR CASE!

And we had a strong case. So ... how did we fail? How did we fail these people? Because we DID fail them. Surely, we can blame some of it on lies, damn lies, disinformation, denial and sleaze coming out of the Clinton campaign folk, the army of lobbyists and surrogates, and many of her supporters. But I have to believe that we can penetrate that fog. And we failed to do so here. We need to attune ourselves to these voters, so they can hear us ... and so we can hear them.

Let's not let frustration or disappointment take us of our message and purpose. We're fighting for the means to better this country and elevate its people. This was always going to be an uphill battle against the machine, and we may well lose this round. Sanders may well lose the nomination, though losing SC provides no guarantee of that doom. He may well win this thing, too. We're not done yet.

But Sanders losing the nomination doesn't mean this revolution is over. And it doesn't mean we can't reach through the fog of triangulation and gather people to our cause. But we won't accomplish that by issuing pronouncements about "master/slave" relationships. The black voters of South Carolina perceived it to be in their interests to vote for Ms. Clinton. Of course, I believe firmly they were wrong. There are lessons for this movement and the Sanders campaign in this outcome. Let us be humans, use our minds and hearts, learn, and apply our acquired understanding.

Trav

[Vogon_Glory]

102. The Bernie-phile Reaction I'm Waiting For

"We should ignore the results of the Super Tuesday votes because blah-blah-blah..."

[Raine1967]

105. Pretty offensive OP. EOM

[Flying Squirrel]

106. Please self-delete. nt

[Zynx]

107. This is bullshit. I really don't want to dignify this with a response.

You can't just ignore states with a constituency that is vital to the party. You just assume that they don't know what they're doing because they don't accept your agenda and instead accept a perfectly progressive agenda that isn't just your brand.

You can't do that. I'm sorry. That's no way to build a party.

[oberliner]

108. Is this post for real?

If so - wow.

[brer cat]

112. This is disgusting.

[JimDandy]

113. Knock it off--this is really offensive of you!

Delete this crap. Sanders supporter here.

[mhatrw]

115. Three cheers for the Clinton campaign, the corporate media and the DNC who all did

yeoman's work to depress the vote and especially the youth vote today and in the foreseeable future!

The never ending mantra of Hillary's inevitability and "No We Can't" won the day! Other than the people who always vote Democratic out of habit, everyone stayed home.

The best future hope of the Democratic party now doesn't give shit about the political process because they know it is just as rigged as the economy if not moreso. Thanks, Clinton supporters for doing your part to ensure the triumph of oligarchy over the insidious threat of democracy!

[DrDan]

116. disgusting post - but not surprising considering . . . .

[Tarc]

118. "Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states..." ?

"not far from being a slave state again" ?

"Hillary represents the master class well..." ?


Wow, not to subtle on the undertones there, eh?

[DrDan]

119. bookmarked - further evidence of hte racism that exists in one group of supporters

[JimDandy]

140. No. It's evidence of the racism of 1 anonymous poster on the internet.

I see many of the Sander's supporters on this thread condemning this post. The Admin should remove this poster immediately.

[DrDan]

141. one poster with 26 recs - but I hear you and know most do not feel that way

[JimDandy]

153. I alerted but a previous alert allowed it to remain on a 2-5 vote! Am just stunned.

Asked the admin to review it.

[yardwork]

233. That is evidence of a problem that extends beyond one poster.

[DrDan]

339. as well as 60+ recs

[redstateblues]

122. Elitest, Condescending Bullshit

As a red state Democrat I am offended that you think don't think my vote counts. Losing sucks-you are a sore loser!

[MineralMan]

127. Fukushima...It was the radiation...

Just like the starfish...

[RobertEarl]

143. Funny you should mention that

SC has some of the worst nuke facilities in the US. Savannah River leads the list in SC. And there is another rather large nuclear waste dump in the state.

[MineralMan]

146. Hmm...See...

That must account for Hillary's massive win in SC. Yeah... That's the ticket.

[RobertEarl]

150. NO< NO< NO

Radiation is good for you. And it's all handled safely and securely for the 10,000 years they say they are keeping it.

But one does have to wonder: Why 10,000 years and why do they have to keep it safe for that long?

[lovemydog]

128. I'll let the votes & voters speak

for themselves.

[ecstatic]

132. Please proceed, BernieBro...

[DrDan]

134. just shared your post with Bernie's campaign hq - I am sure they would like to hear

what his supporters are saying about the more "backward" parts of the U.S.

[JohnnyLib2]

135. Thanks to Bernie supporters who have disowned this trash.

[ecstatic]

136. +1000. This might be the worst OP I've ever seen on here.

Racist undertones. Completely tasteless!

[jsmirman]

138. I'm grateful that such disgusting sentiments would never befoul my thoughts

vile.

[Number23]

206. But with 40 recs. What to do about the OP and the rec'ers?

[Lucinda]

290. Sometimes people rec an awful post so that everyone sees it...but they usually

post saying that is why they recc'd.

[johnp3907]

139. Blatantly racist.

Off with the mask...on with the hood.

[vdogg]

144. Some...umm...man this is awkward.

Clinton is winning the white vote in SC 53-47.

[wildeyed]

147. oops!

There it is! Blow out....

[MineralMan]

149. No...That can't be right...

wait...really? How embarrassing...

[drray23]

203. indeed. she i also voting the young vote.nt.

[Number23]

208. But white people are learned, noble and valiant!1 Whenever they vote, it's because they have

ACRRUATELY asseSessed the issuees and with reason and sounD logic, have made the best poSissble decision for themselves, tHeir communiteees and thEir families!111One

[PeaceNikki]

254. But he won the coveted white MEN vote which is really the only vote that counts.

[Andy823]

148. Wow a real live Bernie Bro

And some here try and say the don't exist!

I think you and everyone of your fellow bros who recd this thread, should head on over to Trumps campaign, I hear they need volunteers.

[KelleyD]

154. Shameful Delete the whole op post...n/t

[Gothmog]

166. Agreed

[SidDithers]

197. No! They're a myth...

that's what we've been told over and over and over and over and over.

Sid

[Gothmog]

214. Bernie Bros exist

[Number23]

207. + a million.

[wildeyed]

155. Can't ignore the

the delegate math. And most of the 53 from SC will belong to Hillary Clinton after tonight.

[andrewv1]

157. To win in the General Election you need enthusiasm...Hillary doesn't have much.

Even with the Democratic Establishment & Mainstream Media (which to listen to them btw, has South Carolina now as "the second coming" for a state that hasn't gone Democratic since 1976?) is supporting her but it's not showing in the GE Polls.

The Democratic Voters are a "Big Tent" of different groups & if one group "stays at home" they will not win the General Election.

Everybody already knows Hillary & she is not overall liked, but Sanders generates more & more enthusiasm as people get to know him & has the possibility to bring all these groups together to win.

Mark my words, if she is the nominee she will lose by a landslide because she will not be able to differentiate herself from the Republican Candidate.

And that side will have the enthusiasm.

[passiveporcupine]

159. I agree

Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states with some of the meanest people I have ever met. It is not far from being a slave state again, only the federal government keeps it from doing so.

I had a good friend I worked with in Colorado. Wasn't the brightest bulb in the pack, but a good friend and a nice person. I was sort of her protector. She and her boyfriend moved to SC, and a few years later I was getting some pretty ugly e-mails from her. I never challenged her on it. I just figured what the hell, I can't fight with the climate down there, and defriended her. Just stopped replying.

[kjones]

160. ...

[PatrynXX]

163. never mind it was a really low turn out.

Pretty much a tell tail usually how things go. fraid the young are all enamored by Trump in that State. thats a write off state. no chance of Hillary winning that one at all. Pure Trump. I expected nothing less it was just would he get least get 25 % and looks like he did that. That ain't bad in my book for a state she expected a total win.

[RobertEarl]

184. Consider this

I live in the deep south. I have lost a lot of friends who hate me because I campaigned, on the streets, for Barack Obama, 2008.

And have rejected many a person as a friend because they were racists. Thanks, and have a nice day, jsmirman.

[jsmirman]

192. I'm sure people are truly moved by your unfuckingbelievable condescension

just gross.

[Cha]

320. Sorry, you got a hide for pointing out the obvious, jsmirman.

[GoneFishin]

193. Me too. REC.

[GoneFishin]

196. Cool. I can do multiples this way. REC.

[Gothmog]

215. Agreed as to the recs

[Milliesmom]

168. Just remember

It is the only primary Hillary has won, Bernie won once and now Hillary, Iowa was a virtual tie and Nevada was very close. Both Iowa and Nevada had some odd things going on there, but Bernie decided not to waste his time and energy on them. Bernie knew he was going to lose SC and put his time in other places, he said he would be very pleased if he won 20 % and 15 % would be even better.

[jcgoldie]

170. this argument is offensive

81% still support Barack Obama... I guess you think they are too stupid to realize that your opinion is the only one. You should be ashamed of this post.

[Don Draper]

173. It's quite typical of southern states to vote

Against their self interests. Let's just hope that the blue states vote for the real progressive; Bernie sanders. He is the only one who can beat trump in the GE. A vote for Hillary in the primary is like a vote for trump for president .

[DrDan]

217. like those who vote for Bachmann in Minn, or Christie in NJ, or Walker in Wisc, or Brown in Mass

[redstateblues]

286. Didn't Progressive CA elect Arnold Schwarzenegger?

[DrDan]

288. and reagan and nixon

[obamanut2012]

291. twice

[CreekDog]

321. a vote for Hillary is not a vote for Trump

I'm voting for Hillary because I think she has the best chance of beating Trump or the others.

what the heck is wrong with you coming here with 156 posts to tell the Hillary supporters they are voting for Trump?

what credibility do you have on the subject?

[Godhumor]

175. Something I've long believed

Has just been confirmed by this OP.

[Marr]

177. There's no reason to ignore it-- but there's no reason to worry about it, either.

No one expected SC to go for Sanders. He's not going to win every state, and that's fine. People should vote for whomever they consider to be the best candidate.

Congratulations to Hillary Clinton on her SC win.

[jmowreader]

178. Here's why we should ignore RobertEarl

[LibDemAlways]

180. Does anyone on this board seriously think

anyone with a D after his or her name has any chance whatsoever of winning South Carolina in November? Not even the most ardent Hillary supporter could possibly be that delusional.

Congrats to Hillary on her win, though, and let's see how both candidates do when pitted against each other in the big states that are reliably Dem and the swing states where the election will be won or lost.

[davidthegnome]

181. Strongly disagree.

I am a 100%, fanatical Bernie supporter, but I strongly disagree that we should ignore this vote. A large number of African Americans came out to vote for Clinton today - we should consider that, and consider how we might appeal to them on a wider scale.

Also... not far from being a slave state again? Do you have some kind of evidence/data to support that assertion? The Master/servant style of population... again, evidence/data? You understand that a lot of people have problems with those statements, right? You understand why a large number of people, particularly African Americans, will find them deeply offensive?

The poor always have my utmost sympathy and empathy, as I am one of them. However, let's not pretend that a whole heck of a lot of poor people didn't vote for Clinton today. We should ask ourselves why. We should ask ourselves what we can do, moving forward, to appeal more strongly to black voters, latino voters, to every kind of voter in this Country.

We can learn even more from our defeats than from our victories, let's not ignore the things we learned in SC today. Every vote counts. Even those we disagree with.

[Trust Buster]

182. First, please don't mistake my Lincoln avatar with that of the individual who authored the OP.

Second, why would the OP poster disrespect Lincoln's memory by marginalizing African Americans ? Second, doesn't this sound eerily familiar to the Republican's strategy ? Disregard the minority vote and hope that enough white people in other states will elect your candidate ? Shameful.

[shireen]

183. mean post

that is a really horrible op-ed.

Generalizing an entire state in this way is just ridiculous.

[kimbutgar]

187. I agree South Carolina is a backwards state and doesn't represent the US

Hillary Clinton was a known person who they all knew by name recognition.

[iandhr]

188. Reading a post like this I am having a hard time...

... figuring out why Bernie has trouble getting African-Americans to vote for him.

[Carolina]

189. I live in SC,

a transplant by marriage. It was culture shock when I first moved here from DC, especially politically where I found people brainwashed and frankly, ignorant of history. The south went repuke after LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act. And today many remain what I call congenital repukes.

So what about the Dems... a minority for sure and yes, POCs comprise a large part of that minority though we are only 27% of the state population per the 2010 census. And yet so many of my brethren are uninformed, misinformed and responsive to suggestions from pastors and local AA pols, many of whom were/are in the tank for HRC.

As an older woman of color, I am dismayed that many of my peers/friends on both sides of the color line were/are for HRC solely because she's a woman. When I have pointed out how she sure fought repukes with her IWR and bankruptcy bill votes OR her support of the Glass-Steagall reversal and welfare deform as well as her tenure at State that left Honduras, Libya and Syria all messes, I have been met with blank, so-what stares! I have tried talking about the TPP, the Keystone pipeline, Monsanto, fracking, etc... same reaction. Or worse, I have gotten the: I don't care about politics/I don't want to talk about politics response. What?!

These are not dumb people... some are professional women who are exceptionally, bright and talented in their fields. Yet, they are remarkably uninformed about HRC's record, listen to TV news for political information, and are amnestic about the 2008 primary campaign. I have reached a point where I think America is truly doomed and that the nation deserves the devolved 'leadership' choices that the moneyed powers offer. Only when the bottom falls out and chaos abounds will sheeple wake up... too late

I will continue to support Bernie no matter what and will write his name in the general as I cannot vote for the not-so-lesser of two evils. In the general, it really won't matter in this deep RED state.

I will add two asides. I would not paint with a broad brush and characterize the people here as mean. Quite the contrary, there truly are some wonderful people here, but the state can (some people, members of the legislature, etc.) be backward; hence the oft stated other 'motto': Thank God for Mississippi!

[andrewv1]

210. A very good explanation of the dynamics of SC...Curious though of the MSM's sudden "elevation"

of this state as the "gold standard" in the Presidential Election Primaries?

Sounds like it's being pushed a little too much for some reason.

[RobertEarl]

211. The few S Carolinians I know are white

And they are a little mean. Especially to those who don't toe their line. Like me?

I was so happy for SC people when they took down that damn flag. You can see my post in the SC forum/group. That flag stuff just goes to show how much meanness there is, imo.

Thank you for your kind reply. You have shown real class. More than I that's for sure! Good luck down here.

[GummyBearz]

289. Very well said

You should make a version of this post into its own OP.

[PM Martin]

198. Black voters are the core of the Democratic party.

Berniebros can piss and moan all they want, but ignoring the base of the party will end Bernie's campaign.

[andrewv1]

221. So? The Progressives think they are the base & the Latino's think they are the base & etc & etc...

We're all one "Big Tent" that wins when everybody is involved for a TRUE DEMOCRAT from thee bases together....


But's let's get back to you....

Please tell us how Bernie is ignoring the Black Base of the Party?

[Arazi]

199. This OP is offensive. Consider self deleting please eom

[jillan]

204. This Bernie supporter says no we shouldn't ignore it. Hillary kicked our ass tonite.

[DashOneBravo]

205. "Not far from a slave state

And only the federal government keeping them from it."

I've read some dumb race baiting shit on this board. But congrats you win the prize.

[LiberalElite]

213. Kicking nt