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RobertEarl

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This message was self-deleted by its author (Original Post) RobertEarl Feb 2016 OP
And under the bus goes.. BillyDawg Feb 2016 #1
LOL DURHAM D Feb 2016 #2
Iggy for SC. ucrdem Feb 2016 #5
Yall ever been there? RobertEarl Feb 2016 #13
add these to your iggy list: ucrdem Feb 2016 #17
Oh no, only half hour into the SC count & its, HRC 81% - bernie19% misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #120
You forgot Poland. AngryAmish Feb 2016 #255
I just erased my response because this post is so bad and offensive Gothmog Feb 2016 #77
Ditto obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #95
Probably the most spiteful OP SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #179
BernieBros do exist Gothmog Feb 2016 #212
That's a disgusting OP - you are so right. cwydro Feb 2016 #245
I say, yes, bernistas, by all means, you ignore SC. Hortensis Feb 2016 #250
Especially after Trump's David Duke no comment, comment. grossproffit Feb 2016 #337
Original post is outright racist SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #349
I have Rebkeh Feb 2016 #81
Bless your heart. cwydro Feb 2016 #261
Curious...what's w/the rainbow HRC logo? Roland99 Feb 2016 #171
I am a member of the LGBT community. DURHAM D Feb 2016 #191
... sheshe2 Feb 2016 #224
Nicely said. riversedge Feb 2016 #253
Interesting.... Roland99 Feb 2016 #256
Great post! cwydro Feb 2016 #260
Bravo! Loki Feb 2016 #347
.... yardwork Feb 2016 #355
and it's 61% African American voters. How 'progressive' of the OP wyldwolf Feb 2016 #3
that 61% wasn't enough to swing the state to Dems in either 'o8 or 12 in the GE azurnoir Feb 2016 #41
How is that even relevant to this discussion ? wyldwolf Feb 2016 #45
It's a fact getting what you want in the small picture means nada in the big picture azurnoir Feb 2016 #48
Read the OP - the discussion is about whether the SC vote should be ignored wyldwolf Feb 2016 #55
and you got my reply azurnoir Feb 2016 #76
Much like Bernie's win in New Hampshire Generic Brad Feb 2016 #174
Funny how a Dem only primary in a majority AA state with large #s of delegates is to be "ignored" Number23 Feb 2016 #202
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Feb 2016 #264
That has nothing to do with a primary Number23 Feb 2016 #267
So you don't see the correlation with voters in the south picking the most.... Matt_R Mar 2016 #358
So let me get this straight, Hillary winning in GA, Texas and other massive Southern states Number23 Mar 2016 #359
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2016 #360
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2016 #361
Yeah, Massachusetts is as red a state as it gets Number23 Mar 2016 #362
This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Mar 2016 #365
That was my point, Einstein. You don't know what you're arguing at all, do you? Number23 Mar 2016 #366
I know this is hard for some to comprehend, but when a person becomes president, that person still_one Feb 2016 #52
How is it NOT relevant? Karma13612 Feb 2016 #117
It was closer lancer78 Feb 2016 #104
Listen up buddy jsmirman Feb 2016 #110
You got that right Cary Feb 2016 #129
Thanks for the giggle. Well done. bvf Feb 2016 #265
What a brilliant observation (NOT) brush Feb 2016 #240
Didn't help Barack Obama either. William769 Feb 2016 #308
Hillary is no Barack as last nights turn in SC showed azurnoir Feb 2016 #309
And apparently none for Bernie. William769 Feb 2016 #317
hey they are supposed to be among Trumps biggest supporters PatrynXX Feb 2016 #167
For all the lamenting of Dean's 50 state strategy... LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #12
B/c she isn't trying a 50 state campaign. Just the red states. basselope Feb 2016 #172
Really? Here is an overview of her organization and LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #266
Making an announcement and executing on it are two different things. basselope Feb 2016 #268
Tell me which states Hillary's campaign abandoned or in which she has no office, operation or LuvLoogie Feb 2016 #272
You confuse the entire issue.. basselope Feb 2016 #284
No shit! ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #22
Lmao vdogg Feb 2016 #33
its ridiculous to have SC as the first in the South Dem Primary demwing Feb 2016 #36
It's ridiculous that you think they shouldn't be engaged in the process in a meaningful way. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #53
You mean unlike Iowa and New Hampshire Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #73
Why did you skip Nevada? Ed Suspicious Feb 2016 #83
Because Nevada is not subject to the same point, obviously. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #90
The first two states were 90%+ white voting states Gothmog Feb 2016 #86
I'll repeat myself jsmirman Feb 2016 #114
How come S.C. is so RED then? 2banon Feb 2016 #133
It's kind of amazing how little you understood my post jsmirman Feb 2016 #137
Right. That's why it's a Red State and why It should not be given this 2banon Feb 2016 #145
Your ability to miss the point is quite something jsmirman Feb 2016 #156
South Carolina demographics. iandhr Feb 2016 #194
thanks for the stats and the source. 2banon Feb 2016 #209
Now I get it. Your posts are satire. onenote Feb 2016 #313
Interesting proposition about populating the South. Bohunk68 Feb 2016 #335
AA make up 30% of population SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #259
Very important during the primaries.. 2banon Feb 2016 #263
This message was self-deleted by its author passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #162
Whut? What is up with the posts jsmirman Feb 2016 #176
This message was self-deleted by its author passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #185
I'm just going to pass on commenting on your anecdote jsmirman Feb 2016 #190
This message was self-deleted by its author passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #195
Right, those black voters who voted for Hillary tonight are Confederate flag waving bigots stevenleser Feb 2016 #219
Since you're not suggesting that Democrats (the majority of whom are AA) in SC are onenote Feb 2016 #312
Of course! NastyRiffraff Feb 2016 #84
Racist garbage DemocratHeart Feb 2016 #126
I'm sorry for the nastiness here Cary Feb 2016 #131
more like the other way around PatrynXX Feb 2016 #164
Yeah, must be a big bus - that's an entire state shenmue Feb 2016 #169
LOL. Grind, squeal! Bernistas, you need a bigger bus. Hortensis Feb 2016 #247
Here's why we should ignore RobertEarl: CreekDog Feb 2016 #326
So was your main account banned? Capt. Obvious Feb 2016 #351
I don't think we should ignore any state's vote. winter is coming Feb 2016 #4
this^ AlbertCat Feb 2016 #98
Yes, it's become silly time in the Clinton Group. JimDandy Feb 2016 #111
Someone says to ignore SC results, but it's "silly time in the Clinton Group" Got it. themaguffin Feb 2016 #200
This message was self-deleted by its author themaguffin Feb 2016 #201
You missed them. Iowa and New Hampshire were Bernie's states. yardwork Feb 2016 #295
Thank you for sharing. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #6
I just can't even Rose Siding Feb 2016 #237
Yeah. Pretty messed up. NCTraveler Feb 2016 #238
This is one of the first people who came to mind Rose Siding Feb 2016 #239
She's much better looking and a whole lot younger SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #356
you may not have meant it that way, but your whole post reads as so jezebel Feb 2016 #7
SC can be very offensive RobertEarl Feb 2016 #20
And two 90+% white states like Iowa and New Hampshire are representative of the party? Gothmog Feb 2016 #87
RobertEarl says: "there's some good people there." SCantiGOP Feb 2016 #342
Whatever makes you feel better KingFlorez Feb 2016 #8
55% of SC primary voters are African Americans. I'm sure they'll appreciate sufrommich Feb 2016 #9
I feel bad for them RobertEarl Feb 2016 #23
The African American turnout was 61% today. Are you saying they were forced by sufrommich Feb 2016 #26
They are showing up... NCTraveler Feb 2016 #34
No, you just said they should be ignored. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #57
They don't need or want your pity. yardwork Feb 2016 #228
They're confederate flag waving bigots according to a post upthread, haven't you heard? stevenleser Feb 2016 #220
"SC retains the Master/servant style of population.?" grossproffit Feb 2016 #10
Damn, I skimmed over that part firebrand80 Feb 2016 #15
The confederate flag was flying recently. RobertEarl Feb 2016 #24
Yeah, because 61% of Dem electorate support the confederate flag. joshcryer Feb 2016 #31
You need to be a human being and delete this post...n/t KelleyD Feb 2016 #152
We should also ignore NV, and maybe IA nt firebrand80 Feb 2016 #11
"South Carolina. Too small to be a republic, too large to be an insane asylum" hobbit709 Feb 2016 #14
Nullification. Secession. Strom Thurmond-ization. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #16
Another sore loser redstateblues Feb 2016 #123
What a disgusting post. n/t tammywammy Feb 2016 #18
And there it is. nt LexVegas Feb 2016 #19
Wait a minute. Bernie spent a lot of time campaigning with young people. kstewart33 Feb 2016 #21
They also responded by not showing up. ucrdem Feb 2016 #25
... vdogg Feb 2016 #82
I have sympathy for the poor people there RobertEarl Feb 2016 #28
Tell me why DUers talk shit about Texas, Texans, and The South in general. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2016 #35
I don't know. My best guess: kstewart33 Feb 2016 #44
Lol! zappaman Feb 2016 #27
2-5 keep. joshcryer Feb 2016 #29
Agreed Gothmog Feb 2016 #89
Amazing, isn't it mcar Feb 2016 #99
I was Juror #1........I can't believe this post wasn't Hidden thelordofhell Feb 2016 #101
Sad jury results tammywammy Feb 2016 #109
Alert on the jury results... SidDithers Feb 2016 #125
Agreed Gothmog Feb 2016 #151
Agreed...total troll...n/t KelleyD Feb 2016 #161
Maybe there is comfort in the fact that admin have banned members even when JTFrog Feb 2016 #186
The problem is that those beliefs are validated unless they are condemned Rose Siding Feb 2016 #257
Stunning jsmirman Feb 2016 #121
You're kidding? Paternalism is ok at DU now? McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #278
It's a recognized primary. It counts. Whatever happens it gets put with other results HereSince1628 Feb 2016 #30
LOL.. DCBob Feb 2016 #32
I was gonna alert on this vdogg Feb 2016 #37
Exactly what I did obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #103
LOL!! Yeah, put your head in the sand. Ignore SC results. Will you ignore Super beaglelover Feb 2016 #38
Holy crap frazzled Feb 2016 #39
I know. I alerted on the OP again to send to Admin for review. yardwork Feb 2016 #231
Dude MaggieD Feb 2016 #40
Nope ismnotwasm Feb 2016 #43
Please stop it... nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #42
Ignore them? NCTraveler Feb 2016 #46
Ugh. I support Sanders, but your post is awful cyberswede Feb 2016 #47
I spent several hours calling voters in SC today and most were very pleasant and I disagree ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #49
Gross. You act like Obama is worse than Bush PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #50
Jajaja, don't like the outcome ignore it. giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #51
Wow. And using master/servant when majority of Dem voters in SC are black?!? Metric System Feb 2016 #54
We should ignore it because it's one state and one no one expected him to win. merrily Feb 2016 #56
. stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #58
And the mask comes off 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #59
I will just add that Senator Sanders would say the poor and oppressed are in more need ... slipslidingaway Feb 2016 #60
IBTSD Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #61
How racist, and wrong. KitSileya Feb 2016 #241
Here's why we should ignore the SC vote ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #62
Democrats in South Carolina don't count... SidDithers Feb 2016 #63
Obviously sander supporters want to ignore losses beachbumbob Feb 2016 #64
Sanders will win California, NY etc. RobertEarl Feb 2016 #66
Source, please? grossproffit Feb 2016 #71
What a pant load redstateblues Feb 2016 #124
He ain't winning in New York jsmirman Feb 2016 #130
Last California poll had Sanders down 11% Gothmog Feb 2016 #158
Why, I read right here on DU ... NanceGreggs Feb 2016 #329
I am a Bernie backer awoke_in_2003 Feb 2016 #65
Of course RobertEarl Feb 2016 #69
Yeah, you really know SC. zappaman Feb 2016 #142
Are you aware that only Democrats vote in the Democratic primary? yardwork Feb 2016 #232
It truly seems as if the OP doesn't understand that. And as a Bernie supporter I apologize for his onenote Feb 2016 #318
Thanks. I appreciate that. yardwork Feb 2016 #336
Desperation. nt onehandle Feb 2016 #67
I'm not taking the advice of South Carolina Democrats. They haven't won a single statewide election. w4rma Feb 2016 #68
They don't have much power - Dems RobertEarl Feb 2016 #70
Still. The Democrats in South Carolina clearly haven't been able to articulate a counter-message. nt w4rma Feb 2016 #79
Last I heard RobertEarl Feb 2016 #85
I did forget about that. Have Democrats in South Carolina tried to do *anything* to change that? w4rma Feb 2016 #88
Well, like you factually posted RobertEarl Feb 2016 #94
True, but there are conservatives in South Carolina who distrust the things, too. w4rma Feb 2016 #97
What an offensive OP! BlueMTexpat Feb 2016 #72
The OP is truly offensive Gothmog Feb 2016 #75
All voters in the Democratic primary process need to be counted Gothmog Feb 2016 #74
Unrec. Agschmid Feb 2016 #78
What a miserable post. nt. Nonhlanhla Feb 2016 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author rbrnmw Feb 2016 #91
Racist sexist and anti-Semetic dlwickham Feb 2016 #92
Yes, clearly being a white male is such an oppressive burden mythology Feb 2016 #93
It has nothing to do with ethnicity. The exit polls say that conservatives and "moderates" dominate w4rma Feb 2016 #100
As a Sanders supporter, I have to ask have you taken complete leave of your senses? The Traveler Feb 2016 #96
The Bernie-phile Reaction I'm Waiting For Vogon_Glory Feb 2016 #102
Pretty offensive OP. EOM Raine1967 Feb 2016 #105
Please self-delete. nt Flying Squirrel Feb 2016 #106
This is bullshit. I really don't want to dignify this with a response. Zynx Feb 2016 #107
Is this post for real? oberliner Feb 2016 #108
This is disgusting. brer cat Feb 2016 #112
Knock it off--this is really offensive of you! JimDandy Feb 2016 #113
Three cheers for the Clinton campaign, the corporate media and the DNC who all did mhatrw Feb 2016 #115
disgusting post - but not surprising considering . . . . DrDan Feb 2016 #116
"Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states..." ? Tarc Feb 2016 #118
bookmarked - further evidence of hte racism that exists in one group of supporters DrDan Feb 2016 #119
No. It's evidence of the racism of 1 anonymous poster on the internet. JimDandy Feb 2016 #140
one poster with 26 recs - but I hear you and know most do not feel that way DrDan Feb 2016 #141
I alerted but a previous alert allowed it to remain on a 2-5 vote! Am just stunned. JimDandy Feb 2016 #153
That is evidence of a problem that extends beyond one poster. yardwork Feb 2016 #233
as well as 60+ recs DrDan Feb 2016 #339
Elitest, Condescending Bullshit redstateblues Feb 2016 #122
Fukushima...It was the radiation... MineralMan Feb 2016 #127
Funny you should mention that RobertEarl Feb 2016 #143
Hmm...See... MineralMan Feb 2016 #146
NO< NO< NO RobertEarl Feb 2016 #150
I'll let the votes & voters speak lovemydog Feb 2016 #128
Please proceed, BernieBro... ecstatic Feb 2016 #132
just shared your post with Bernie's campaign hq - I am sure they would like to hear DrDan Feb 2016 #134
Thanks to Bernie supporters who have disowned this trash. JohnnyLib2 Feb 2016 #135
+1000. This might be the worst OP I've ever seen on here. ecstatic Feb 2016 #136
I'm grateful that such disgusting sentiments would never befoul my thoughts jsmirman Feb 2016 #138
But with 40 recs. What to do about the OP and the rec'ers? Number23 Feb 2016 #206
Sometimes people rec an awful post so that everyone sees it...but they usually Lucinda Feb 2016 #290
Blatantly racist. johnp3907 Feb 2016 #139
Some...umm...man this is awkward. vdogg Feb 2016 #144
oops! wildeyed Feb 2016 #147
No...That can't be right... MineralMan Feb 2016 #149
indeed. she i also voting the young vote.nt. drray23 Feb 2016 #203
But white people are learned, noble and valiant!1 Whenever they vote, it's because they have Number23 Feb 2016 #208
But he won the coveted white MEN vote which is really the only vote that counts. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #254
Wow a real live Bernie Bro Andy823 Feb 2016 #148
Shameful Delete the whole op post...n/t KelleyD Feb 2016 #154
Agreed Gothmog Feb 2016 #166
No! They're a myth... SidDithers Feb 2016 #197
Bernie Bros exist Gothmog Feb 2016 #214
+ a million. Number23 Feb 2016 #207
Can't ignore the wildeyed Feb 2016 #155
To win in the General Election you need enthusiasm...Hillary doesn't have much. andrewv1 Feb 2016 #157
I agree passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #159
... kjones Feb 2016 #160
never mind it was a really low turn out. PatrynXX Feb 2016 #163
Post removed Post removed Feb 2016 #165
Consider this RobertEarl Feb 2016 #184
I'm sure people are truly moved by your unfuckingbelievable condescension jsmirman Feb 2016 #192
Sorry, you got a hide for pointing out the obvious, jsmirman. Cha Feb 2016 #320
Me too. REC. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #193
Cool. I can do multiples this way. REC. GoneFishin Feb 2016 #196
Agreed as to the recs Gothmog Feb 2016 #215
Just remember Milliesmom Feb 2016 #168
this argument is offensive jcgoldie Feb 2016 #170
It's quite typical of southern states to vote Don Draper Feb 2016 #173
like those who vote for Bachmann in Minn, or Christie in NJ, or Walker in Wisc, or Brown in Mass DrDan Feb 2016 #217
Didn't Progressive CA elect Arnold Schwarzenegger? redstateblues Feb 2016 #286
and reagan and nixon DrDan Feb 2016 #288
twice obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #291
a vote for Hillary is not a vote for Trump CreekDog Feb 2016 #321
Something I've long believed Godhumor Feb 2016 #175
There's no reason to ignore it-- but there's no reason to worry about it, either. Marr Feb 2016 #177
Here's why we should ignore RobertEarl jmowreader Feb 2016 #178
Does anyone on this board seriously think LibDemAlways Feb 2016 #180
Strongly disagree. davidthegnome Feb 2016 #181
First, please don't mistake my Lincoln avatar with that of the individual who authored the OP. Trust Buster Feb 2016 #182
mean post shireen Feb 2016 #183
I agree South Carolina is a backwards state and doesn't represent the US kimbutgar Feb 2016 #187
Reading a post like this I am having a hard time... iandhr Feb 2016 #188
I live in SC, Carolina Feb 2016 #189
A very good explanation of the dynamics of SC...Curious though of the MSM's sudden "elevation" andrewv1 Feb 2016 #210
The few S Carolinians I know are white RobertEarl Feb 2016 #211
Very well said GummyBearz Feb 2016 #289
Black voters are the core of the Democratic party. PM Martin Feb 2016 #198
So? The Progressives think they are the base & the Latino's think they are the base & etc & etc... andrewv1 Feb 2016 #221
This OP is offensive. Consider self deleting please eom Arazi Feb 2016 #199
This Bernie supporter says no we shouldn't ignore it. Hillary kicked our ass tonite. jillan Feb 2016 #204
"Not far from a slave state DashOneBravo Feb 2016 #205
Kicking nt LiberalElite Feb 2016 #213
Mmmmmkay! FrenchieCat Feb 2016 #216
Black people are a major tent pole of the Democratic party. musicblind Feb 2016 #218
100% of SC Democrats want progress. Recursion Feb 2016 #222
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #223
Actually NO RobertEarl Feb 2016 #227
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2016 #229
This post is racist and bigoted against South Carolina. yardwork Feb 2016 #225
Yep...backwards as fuck... datguy_6 Feb 2016 #226
Here is why we should ignore you ... kwassa Feb 2016 #230
I must disagree AgerolanAmerican Feb 2016 #234
Welcome to DU RobertEarl Feb 2016 #235
Thank you, sir. AgerolanAmerican Feb 2016 #236
the under 30s are scared of....? grasswire Feb 2016 #242
Good question RobertEarl Feb 2016 #244
I was reading on facebook just now... grasswire Feb 2016 #246
50 recs, and survived an alert YoungDemCA Feb 2016 #243
Amazing, totally unbelievable. In_The_Wind Feb 2016 #298
You left out the part about free fried chicken & watemelon Orrex Feb 2016 #248
. Orrex Feb 2016 #249
That will be on the next post. Beacool Feb 2016 #315
Obviously, Bernie agrees with you... Sancho Feb 2016 #251
Thanks for this. It's so important to get Kind of Blue Feb 2016 #262
Thank you Sancho. Lucinda Feb 2016 #294
Good post. yardwork Feb 2016 #340
Maybe life is just good for Dems in SC 6chars Feb 2016 #252
yeah, RobertEarl, Bernie should just keep on ignoring African-American voters book_worm Feb 2016 #258
1-percent of the under 30 crowd...voted? Octafish Feb 2016 #269
12.5% of Democrats even voted? RobertEarl Feb 2016 #275
Elitist, racist, and ignorant. And now on the 'greatest page' emulatorloo Feb 2016 #270
The state which was first to fire on the American flag John Poet Feb 2016 #271
Right, cuz of there's anyone who we should try to repress, it's the Dems there, most of whom are AA. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #273
There are plenty of other states with lots of AA Democrats, John Poet Feb 2016 #276
Freed Slaves in Charleston S.C. Buzz cook Feb 2016 #310
Posts like this are unconvincing in the extreme treestar Feb 2016 #285
This message was self-deleted by its author John Poet Feb 2016 #325
I see you want to hold the Civil War against the black voters of South Carolina CreekDog Feb 2016 #324
Your response is BULLSHIT for trying to put words in my mouth. John Poet Feb 2016 #327
Actually I think my opinion has more weight than yours CreekDog Feb 2016 #328
Which states are good enough, in your opinion, to have early primaries? yardwork Feb 2016 #341
SOoo, are we ignoring Nevada, too? AgadorSparticus Feb 2016 #274
Where are the sarcasm smilies? McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #277
Sorry, DU, but since this thread is officially approved McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #279
Then we should ignore New Hampshire liberal N proud Feb 2016 #280
Congrats, Bob, maybe you'll go viral. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #281
I'm spreading this one far and wide. Unless... McCamy Taylor Feb 2016 #282
My opinion is that we're witnessing their real tragic reaction. PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #283
It hurts SC RobertEarl Feb 2016 #293
#NailedIt Agschmid Feb 2016 #303
Sanders will do better when the race shifts from Dixie to Democratic states Vote2016 Feb 2016 #287
lolz obamanut2012 Feb 2016 #292
Hillary is up by 8 points in Massachusetts. yardwork Feb 2016 #296
Up 8% in a poll by Suffolk which overestimated Hillary's NH support by 13%. We'll see in 2 days Vote2016 Feb 2016 #297
"Master/servant style of population"? That's kind of a racist assumption, you know. Just wow. Hekate Feb 2016 #299
I'm sorry.. post 300 RobertEarl Feb 2016 #300
Just stupid. jcgoldie Feb 2016 #305
We can't ignore the facts. The youth did not turn out. Nobody did really. It's like that state is in thereismore Feb 2016 #301
I hope you only meant by ignore them, for the Sander's team to ingore the loss passiveporcupine Feb 2016 #302
Not this shit again. bettyellen Feb 2016 #304
You should rethink your post. Buzz cook Feb 2016 #306
You just read it wrong RobertEarl Feb 2016 #307
Sorry you wrote it wrong. Buzz cook Feb 2016 #311
Of course AA's are not the racists RobertEarl Feb 2016 #316
Too oppressed to know whats good for themselves jcgoldie Feb 2016 #348
Hey Robert, your dog is not whistling, it's howling. Beacool Feb 2016 #314
I hear you howling? RobertEarl Feb 2016 #323
considerably more than voted for your candidate . . . perhaps something wrong there? DrDan Feb 2016 #338
I guess the Dean 50 state strategy is dead and buried. Didn't expect a fellow Bernie supporter to be onenote Feb 2016 #319
50 state is a congressional strategy RobertEarl Feb 2016 #322
Bernie supporter here... Nyan Feb 2016 #330
That's one of the dumbest and most elitist posts I've ever read on DU bluestateguy Feb 2016 #331
How about how racist SC is? RobertEarl Feb 2016 #332
Tell you what bluestateguy Feb 2016 #333
Thanks. We all know now where the OP is coming from, and the OPs mindset, still_one Feb 2016 #334
Bernie has no one to blame but himself for not winning even one SC county misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #343
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Feb 2016 #344
Lol. turn her back on what? She worked for every county she won. misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #345
Here, this shows who neglected SC. misterhighwasted Feb 2016 #346
Please... I know you mean well, but just stop trying to help... Blue_Tires Feb 2016 #350
Kick for anyone who missed this train wreck! PeaceNikki Feb 2016 #352
Thank you RobertEarl Feb 2016 #353
Too bad that your OP didn't say that instead of what you did say. yardwork Feb 2016 #354
So much for ignoring South Carolina! William769 Mar 2016 #357
That trick never works. In_The_Wind Mar 2016 #363
kick Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #364
Mister-I'm a Bernie supporter, I've met him 3 times over the years,and he wouldn't want your support RiverNoord Mar 2016 #367
That's your opinion RobertEarl Mar 2016 #368
 

BillyDawg

(82 posts)
1. And under the bus goes..
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:58 PM
Feb 2016

South Carolina!!

DURHAM D

(32,596 posts)
2. LOL
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:59 PM
Feb 2016

That didn't take long.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
5. Iggy for SC.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

Last edited Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Buh bye SC!



.........

ETA: lest there be any doubt, I strongly object to sentiments expressed in the OP, so I'm adding the sarcasm smilie I left off originally. And for the record I'm 100% grateful to SC Dems for choosing wisely in yesterday's primary. And yes the whole world is watching:

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
13. Yall ever been there?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:02 PM
Feb 2016

It's bad.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
17. add these to your iggy list:
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
120. Oh no, only half hour into the SC count & its, HRC 81% - bernie19%
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:42 PM
Feb 2016

SC voters now set the pace for the real revolution. Our First Woman President & a true loyal & proud Democrat, Hillary Clinton

We are a more fortunate nation after tonight.
Thank you SC & Thank you Hillary Clinton.
Happy Birthday Chelsea!! Great night for a party

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
255. You forgot Poland.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:48 AM
Feb 2016

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
77. I just erased my response because this post is so bad and offensive
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:53 PM
Feb 2016

obamanut2012

(25,911 posts)
95. Ditto
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:18 PM
Feb 2016

SCantiGOP

(13,856 posts)
179. Probably the most spiteful OP
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:51 PM
Feb 2016

in at least the last week.
I expected to see it though.
Poster probably doesn't even know, or care, that Statewide Democratic candidates average about 45% of the vote in recent elections. We do have a viable Party here, and most of my sane Republican friends are horrified by Trump and Cruz.

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
212. BernieBros do exist
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:23 PM
Feb 2016
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
245. That's a disgusting OP - you are so right.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:22 AM
Feb 2016

I have black and white friends in SC.

All of them are capable of making up their own minds quite well.

We're gonna be seeing some really sour grapes around here soon,

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
250. I say, yes, bernistas, by all means, you ignore SC.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:43 AM
Feb 2016

If it makes them happy. Only among the first in a very long list of states that just don't count.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
337. Especially after Trump's David Duke no comment, comment.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:11 AM
Feb 2016

That was the last straw for some.

SCantiGOP

(13,856 posts)
349. Original post is outright racist
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:42 AM
Feb 2016

Clinton is winning this big because she got 86% of the African American vote. Yet the original poster here says he is "calling out racism."??

Are all of the black voters in SC among the meanest people you have ever met? This post should have been banned; it certainly should be taken down.

Rebkeh

(2,450 posts)
81. I have
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016

It is bad. Real bad.

But it's still not fair to paint the entire state with one brush.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
261. Bless your heart.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:09 AM
Feb 2016

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
171. Curious...what's w/the rainbow HRC logo?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:47 PM
Feb 2016

Esp considering she was against same-sex marriage until very recently.

DURHAM D

(32,596 posts)
191. I am a member of the LGBT community.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:00 PM
Feb 2016

I first met Hillary in 1977 when I was introduced to her by my partner. They have known each other since law school and were working together on a project for President Carter.

I know everything about her history with my community and have no interest in your opinion.

sheshe2

(83,355 posts)
224. ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:44 PM
Feb 2016

riversedge

(69,727 posts)
253. Nicely said.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:34 AM
Feb 2016

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
256. Interesting....
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:14 AM
Feb 2016
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
260. Great post!
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:06 AM
Feb 2016

Wish I could rec it.

Perfectly put.

Loki

(3,825 posts)
347. Bravo!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:29 AM
Feb 2016

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
355. ....
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:45 PM
Feb 2016

wyldwolf

(43,865 posts)
3. and it's 61% African American voters. How 'progressive' of the OP
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
41. that 61% wasn't enough to swing the state to Dems in either 'o8 or 12 in the GE
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:22 PM
Feb 2016

so SC may help get Hillary the nomination but it will not help her get the Presidency

wyldwolf

(43,865 posts)
45. How is that even relevant to this discussion ?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
48. It's a fact getting what you want in the small picture means nada in the big picture
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

wyldwolf

(43,865 posts)
55. Read the OP - the discussion is about whether the SC vote should be ignored
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
76. and you got my reply
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:52 PM
Feb 2016

Generic Brad

(14,270 posts)
174. Much like Bernie's win in New Hampshire
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:48 PM
Feb 2016

Got it.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
202. Funny how a Dem only primary in a majority AA state with large #s of delegates is to be "ignored"
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:08 PM
Feb 2016

but lily white NH with its open primary and half the number of delegates is all about TeH RevOlution!1one!

Response to Number23 (Reply #202)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
267. That has nothing to do with a primary
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

Absolutely nothing.

And the fact that most of those northern states have about 1/3 of the populations of the Southern states, as well as large numbers of minorities, makes them all the more important.

Matt_R

(456 posts)
358. So you don't see the correlation with voters in the south picking the most....
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 01:40 AM
Mar 2016

conservative democratic candidate in history, over the best shot we have to fixing this corrupt system.

The system that pick the wealthy over any minority?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
359. So let me get this straight, Hillary winning in GA, Texas and other massive Southern states
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 02:17 AM
Mar 2016

somehow means nothing to you because she allegedly won't win them in the GE? By your logic, Sanders should have already dropped out. He won't win them either and has lost even large Northern states as well.

Your argument is nonsensical.

Response to Number23 (Reply #359)

Response to Number23 (Reply #359)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
362. Yeah, Massachusetts is as red a state as it gets
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 03:19 AM
Mar 2016

I have never laughed so hard as I have the last few days reading these mindless posts.

And winning by 1 point makes all the difference in the delegate count which is the only thing that matters now. Losing a 40 point lead and winning by 20 is still a big assed, butt whipping win. And she won multiple states tonight by over 30 points.

Response to Number23 (Reply #362)

Number23

(24,544 posts)
366. That was my point, Einstein. You don't know what you're arguing at all, do you?
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 04:37 PM
Mar 2016

That's okay. I'm sure most of the folks reading your posts in this thread don't know either.

still_one

(91,965 posts)
52. I know this is hard for some to comprehend, but when a person becomes president, that person
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

is president of everyone, including those who didn't vote for them

If we start to write off states that we don't think will vote for us, then why would they?

Karma13612

(4,527 posts)
117. How is it NOT relevant?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016

The whole point of elections/and Democratic Underground is to get our candidate into the White House.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
104. It was closer
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:25 PM
Feb 2016

then texas or Loiusiana. PBO only lost SC by like 7-9 points.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
110. Listen up buddy
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:33 PM
Feb 2016

the Democratic party would be FUCKED without the incredible loyalty the black population has consistently shown, election after election.

No group is more loyal or reliable - the black vote is the very backbone of this party.

They damn well should have a hefty say in who the nominee is.

Because any nominee of ours wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell without the black vote.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
129. You got that right
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:52 PM
Feb 2016

And I am proud to be part.of that party!

 

bvf

(6,604 posts)
265. Thanks for the giggle. Well done.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:51 PM
Feb 2016

brush

(53,475 posts)
240. What a brilliant observation (NOT)
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:17 AM
Feb 2016

Democrats won in both '08 and '12.

But we're talking about the primary and getting enough delegates to get the nomination so your post means nothing.

Our nominee, most likely Clinton now given today's result in SC, will win with or without SC in the general just like Obama did.

William769

(55,124 posts)
308. Didn't help Barack Obama either.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:55 AM
Feb 2016

Where has he been for the past eight years?

Oh excuse me that's President Barack Obama. I guess that tells us where's he's been.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
309. Hillary is no Barack as last nights turn in SC showed
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:56 AM
Feb 2016

eta it was 12.5% of the eligible Democratic voters yes she won but there apparently wasn't much enthusiasm

William769

(55,124 posts)
317. And apparently none for Bernie.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:40 AM
Feb 2016

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
167. hey they are supposed to be among Trumps biggest supporters
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:44 PM
Feb 2016

go figure

LuvLoogie

(6,855 posts)
12. For all the lamenting of Dean's 50 state strategy...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

why do they resent Hillary's 50 state campaign?

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
172. B/c she isn't trying a 50 state campaign. Just the red states.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:47 PM
Feb 2016

Where she can't win in the general election.

LuvLoogie

(6,855 posts)
266. Really? Here is an overview of her organization and
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 04:41 PM
Feb 2016
 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
268. Making an announcement and executing on it are two different things.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:00 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton's should well be aware of THAT.

LuvLoogie

(6,855 posts)
272. Tell me which states Hillary's campaign abandoned or in which she has no office, operation or
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:49 PM
Feb 2016

representative working for the campaign. So far, her execution has her ahead in the primary in delegates, super delegates, and the popular vote.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
284. You confuse the entire issue..
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

Just "having an office" doesn't mean she is really trying.

She gave up on New Hampshire.. she put in a show, but had changed her whole message aimed towards South Carolina.

She has chosen a red state strategy and hopes she will do well enough on Super Tuesday to dampen the later states Sanders will win (like California).

Either way, she can't win the general election.

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
22. No shit!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:07 PM
Feb 2016

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
33. Lmao
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016

Did not take long did it? He's gonna have to write up 12 of these on Super Tuesday.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
36. its ridiculous to have SC as the first in the South Dem Primary
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

full of confederate flag waving bigots, never votes Democratic, yet we pretend it's an important state for our primary purposes. Stupid.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
53. It's ridiculous that you think they shouldn't be engaged in the process in a meaningful way.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:29 PM
Feb 2016

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
73. You mean unlike Iowa and New Hampshire
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:50 PM
Feb 2016

which are majority white states?

Given that the majority of whites vote Republican, and Dems only win elections if racial/ethnic minorities vote for them, Iowa and NH are even more ridiculous.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
83. Why did you skip Nevada?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
90. Because Nevada is not subject to the same point, obviously.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:05 PM
Feb 2016

I don't really care which states go first. My point is a simple one: complaining that SC should not go early because they are not majority Dem, is silly given the fact that the two very first states are not at all representative of the Dem Party as a whole. Nevada is more representative.

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
86. The first two states were 90%+ white voting states
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:00 PM
Feb 2016

Why are Iowa and New Hampshire representative of anything?

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
114. I'll repeat myself
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

the Democratic party would be FUCKED without the incredible loyalty the black population has consistently shown, election after election.

No group is more loyal or reliable - the black vote is the very backbone of this party.

They damn well should have a hefty say in who the nominee is.

Because any nominee of ours wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell without the black vote.

So there's every reason that states where black voters are well represented should play a heavy role in our primary process.

Your post is really poor.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
133. How come S.C. is so RED then?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:55 PM
Feb 2016

If the majority of the population of South Carolina is Black and Democratic party loyalists, why do they keep electing Repukes up and down the ticket over these past several decades?

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
137. It's kind of amazing how little you understood my post
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:02 PM
Feb 2016

and I'd like to know whether or not you support the message of the OP.

As of 2000, SC's black population represented 30% of the population (69% of the population is white). How do you not know this?

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
145. Right. That's why it's a Red State and why It should not be given this
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:18 PM
Feb 2016

level of significance in the Democratic Party campaign.

Indeed, South Carolina should NOT be considered more important than say, California for instance, one of the most demographically diverse states in the entire country.

But hey, whatever. If you're a South Carolinian, enjoy your victory and don't get nasty with me. I'm not your target here.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
156. Your ability to miss the point is quite something
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016

nm

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
194. South Carolina demographics.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:01 PM
Feb 2016
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/45000.html


The state is 68.3% white 27.8% black.


The majority of the Democratic Party primary is black because the party in the south is majority black.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
209. thanks for the stats and the source.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:19 PM
Feb 2016

As we always have in the past, we shall continue to put South Carolina in the Republican column in the G.E. in advance of the General Elections, cuz that's how South Carolina rolls, until Whites are no longer a majority, there.

Side note:

I've often said in recent years, that progressives should have made a point decades ago to populate en masse the Southern and Midwestern states, and produce at least a half dozen children to ensure a progressive society/culture for later decades. We blew it by being concerned of over populating the planet and it's impact on the environment and ecosystems. When in fact, Conservative Corporatist/Capitalist has done more harm to the environment and our society as over these decades than any amount of environmentally-conscience children/adults would have.

i still think it's a good idea. it would take 21 years before we'd actually see the needed demographic changes in the electorate in these "Red States" required to flip the south once and for all..

if only.






onenote

(42,383 posts)
313. Now I get it. Your posts are satire.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:35 AM
Feb 2016

Its the only thing that makes sense.

But if I'm wrong, I'm curious to know whether you live in a midwestern or southern state and if not, why haven't you moved (lead by example) and if so, how many children do you have?

Bohunk68

(1,364 posts)
335. Interesting proposition about populating the South.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 07:09 AM
Feb 2016

My Dem brother moved down there in the mid '70's. Right now he would be rolling over in his grave, if he were not in an urn, to see his children and their spouses all voting Rethuglican. It's gotta be something in the water.

SCantiGOP

(13,856 posts)
259. AA make up 30% of population
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:05 AM
Feb 2016

But comprise about 60% if Dem voters

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
263. Very important during the primaries..
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:04 PM
Feb 2016

But not so much during the General in terms of campaigning there as far as the Democratic party is concerned, I would imagine.

Thanks for that stats!





Response to jsmirman (Reply #114)

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
176. Whut? What is up with the posts
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:49 PM
Feb 2016

from people being so unbelievably thick tonight?

Response to jsmirman (Reply #176)

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
190. I'm just going to pass on commenting on your anecdote
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:00 PM
Feb 2016

I can't do this.

You're not helping your candidate, that's all I'll say.

Response to jsmirman (Reply #190)

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
219. Right, those black voters who voted for Hillary tonight are Confederate flag waving bigots
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:29 PM
Feb 2016

wtf?

onenote

(42,383 posts)
312. Since you're not suggesting that Democrats (the majority of whom are AA) in SC are
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:31 AM
Feb 2016

confederate flag waving bigots, I'm not sure what the point of your post is. That only Democrats in states that historically (or recently?) voted for Democrats for President should have a say in who the party's nominee is?

If that's your point, why not just say it. There are western states that had nothing to do with the confederacy that vote repub most of the time. Presumably, you think the Democrats in those states shouldn't get a say?

Not a big fan of Dean's 50-state strategy, I guess.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
84. Of course!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:58 PM
Feb 2016

That was completely expected.

DemocratHeart

(5 posts)
126. Racist garbage
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:50 PM
Feb 2016

We blacks aren't stupid. We ain't slaves no more. You NEED us to win. Keep talking your crap. It's gonna be you who loses.

Cary

(11,746 posts)
131. I'm sorry for the nastiness here
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:54 PM
Feb 2016

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
164. more like the other way around
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:43 PM
Feb 2016

SC will throw Hillary under the bus and right fast

shenmue

(38,503 posts)
169. Yeah, must be a big bus - that's an entire state
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:45 PM
Feb 2016

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
247. LOL. Grind, squeal! Bernistas, you need a bigger bus.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:40 AM
Feb 2016

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
326. Here's why we should ignore RobertEarl:
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:52 AM
Feb 2016
RobertEarl (6,960 posts)
23. Yeah, and it is time to do this

Everyone needs to come to grips with the fact that the privileged white male has been very, very good for this society. That thru that privilege our human society have great things upon which our easy lives' rest. Our unions and our work ethic have resulted in all of us living like only the few kings and queens did 100 years ago.

I am a wm and I'm proud and privileged.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2139120


RobertEarl (2,748 posts)
52. My opinion

Since our society is making progress and slowly dropping the wall of privilege, or glass ceiling, the society as a whole will improve. Be better.

But it is what it is and we can thank the wm, as a whole, for producing the easy life we now enjoy. The US and Europe have it very, very good historically, and imo, it has to do with the affirmative action the wm embraced and made good with.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2139421

Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
351. So was your main account banned?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:45 AM
Feb 2016

"MIRT believes this is a sock puppet account created to circumvent temporary suspension"

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
4. I don't think we should ignore any state's vote.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

OTOH, inflating it into the game-changer of all time is equally silly.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
98. this^
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

It's still early in the process.

Let Hillary and her supporters enjoy their victory in SC.

It's the only victory in SC Hillary will ever have.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
111. Yes, it's become silly time in the Clinton Group.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:35 PM
Feb 2016

She was expected to win SC and she will. Am just waiting patiently until Bernie's states come in to play

themaguffin

(3,805 posts)
200. Someone says to ignore SC results, but it's "silly time in the Clinton Group" Got it.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:06 PM
Feb 2016

Response to themaguffin (Reply #200)

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
295. You missed them. Iowa and New Hampshire were Bernie's states.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:30 PM
Feb 2016

There aren't many left. Hillary is even leading in Massachusetts.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
6. Thank you for sharing.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016
Here's why we should ignore SC vote


Exit polls from SC show 19% want more progress, the other 81% are happy with the way things are or want to go backward.



1% of the under 30 crowd voted and it's probably because they are scared.

Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states with some of the meanest people I have ever met. It is not far from being a slave state again, only the federal government keeps it from doing so.

SC retains the Master/servant style of population. Hillary represents the master class well, with her riches and standing. Bernie, being Jewish and a white male has three strikes against him.

The poor people of that state have my utmost sympathy. They have been beaten down and oppressed for so long they don't know what's up.

RobertEarl

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
237. I just can't even
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:05 AM
Feb 2016

To any AA reading this, to any South Carolinian, I'm on this board but I denounce and condemn this op. The recs are a judgement on this "community".

I'm so sorry you ever had to see it, sorry that anyone, would say such ugly things. The things said are obscene and hateful. No temporal loss of a primary justify them.

I'm just sorry.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
238. Yeah. Pretty messed up.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:11 AM
Feb 2016

Thankfully there are many from all groups who condemn it. Your words are kind and I have to believe represent the sentiment of a majority of posters.

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
239. This is one of the first people who came to mind
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 01:28 AM
Feb 2016

when I stopped to think about what this op actually said.

This is Wille Mae and the young woman is a Clinton volunteer who took her to her polling place today. Wille Mae voted for Hillary. She's 93 and hasn't missed an election.

She went to segregated schools her whole life. She thinks women have come a long way, but need equal pay.



This is target of the op. These women.

Yeah. Pretty messed up.

SCantiGOP

(13,856 posts)
356. She's much better looking and a whole lot younger
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:48 PM
Feb 2016

than I was when I spent election day 1972 back in my home district (they wouldn't let college students vote where they went to school) driving voters, mainly elderly black folks, to the polls.

I got home after a 12 hour day exhausted and, since my marginal vehicle didn't even have a radio, didn't find out until I walked into my apartment that they had called the election for Nixon about 7:30. Still, I was glad I had done my part for the Democratic Party in South Carolina.

Very heartening to see this picture and think about what it represents, especially since Dems are much more marginalized in SC now than they were in 1972.

Thanks for the post.

jezebel

(1,772 posts)
7. you may not have meant it that way, but your whole post reads as so
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

dismissive and offensive.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
20. SC can be very offensive
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:05 PM
Feb 2016

Oh, there's some good people there. It's not totally a wasteland, but as far as representing the future and the Democratic party? Well, just ignore that.

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
87. And two 90+% white states like Iowa and New Hampshire are representative of the party?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:02 PM
Feb 2016

The first two states were Iowa and New Hampshire each with 90+% white voting populations. How are these states representative of the base of the Democratic party?

SCantiGOP

(13,856 posts)
342. RobertEarl says: "there's some good people there."
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 09:55 AM
Feb 2016

Donald Trump says, "They're bringing in drugs, they're rapists...but some of them are good people."

You don't get to walk back bigoted comments. Re-read the original post, where he talks about the meanest people he's ever seen.
This was really the most disgusting post I've ever read on here that wasn't removed and banned immediately.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
8. Whatever makes you feel better
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

Someone clearly is comfort talking...

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
9. 55% of SC primary voters are African Americans. I'm sure they'll appreciate
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

your utter contempt.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
23. I feel bad for them
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:07 PM
Feb 2016

They have been oppressed for centuries. SC just did take down the confederate flag. That says a lot about the oppression, eh?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
26. The African American turnout was 61% today. Are you saying they were forced by
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

racists to vote? Your OP is a perfect example of this:

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Md58cebf4f8bf93c18de268b0d2666503H2&pid=15.1

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
34. They are showing up...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:14 PM
Feb 2016

And voting against the current of the system in their own state. Standing up, taking art, and going the exact opposite direction you are claiming.

Some of what you say rings very true. The connection itself is offensive and not accurate.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
57. No, you just said they should be ignored.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
228. They don't need or want your pity.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:50 PM
Feb 2016

The racist condescension in these posts is just incredible.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
220. They're confederate flag waving bigots according to a post upthread, haven't you heard?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:31 PM
Feb 2016

The disgusting and outright crazy posts here are ridiculous.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
10. "SC retains the Master/servant style of population.?"
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016


Unbelievable.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
15. Damn, I skimmed over that part
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

I should be surprised, but I'm not

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
24. The confederate flag was flying recently.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:08 PM
Feb 2016

Do you understand what that means? It represented master/slave history.

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
31. Yeah, because 61% of Dem electorate support the confederate flag.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:12 PM
Feb 2016

KelleyD

(277 posts)
152. You need to be a human being and delete this post...n/t
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:26 PM
Feb 2016

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
11. We should also ignore NV, and maybe IA nt
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
14. "South Carolina. Too small to be a republic, too large to be an insane asylum"
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

Truer words were never spoken.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
16. Nullification. Secession. Strom Thurmond-ization.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:03 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton did well here.

I'm shocked.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
123. Another sore loser
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:45 PM
Feb 2016

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
18. What a disgusting post. n/t
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:04 PM
Feb 2016

LexVegas

(6,005 posts)
19. And there it is. nt
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:04 PM
Feb 2016

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
21. Wait a minute. Bernie spent a lot of time campaigning with young people.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

He's tried his hardest to spur young people to join the Revolution in South Carolina. The young people responded by not voting.

And they're afraid? Of what? Bernie's platform and electability?

Or much more likely, is it because they behaved like most young people do, and so they did not vote.

Your trashing an entire state because evidently voters did not support your candidate, is priceless. Of the worst kind.





ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
25. They also responded by not showing up.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:09 PM
Feb 2016

On the eve of South Carolina’s Democratic presidential primary, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) spoke in a mostly empty gymnasium at the historically black Claflin University in Orangeburg.

link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-south-carolina-bill-clinton_us_56d1d0b8e4b0871f60eb9d9e

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
82. ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:56 PM
Feb 2016
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
28. I have sympathy for the poor people there
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

SC deserves reparations for slavery.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
35. Tell me why DUers talk shit about Texas, Texans, and The South in general.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
44. I don't know. My best guess:
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

Texas and the South are conservative, rarely resulting in big Democratic wins.

I grew up in the South. I get frustrated with the conservatism and especially racism in the South, but I stop far short of stereotyping states as ignorant, back woods and so forth, simply because they don't support candidates that I do.

The situation and the makeup of these states is far more complex than the stereotypes that I'm reading tonight on this forum.

zappaman

(20,605 posts)
27. Lol!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

You are easily, by far, the funniest poster on DU!

I salute you!

joshcryer

(62,265 posts)
29. 2-5 keep.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

Would appreciate the jury results. Baffling.

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
89. Agreed
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:04 PM
Feb 2016

mcar

(42,210 posts)
99. Amazing, isn't it
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

This is just sad.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
101. I was Juror #1........I can't believe this post wasn't Hidden
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

Disgusting........


On Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:58 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Here's why we should ignore SC vote
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12511355553

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Personally insults an entire state and their Democratic voters.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:06 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Feel The Bern......Of being hidden for insulting thousands of Democratic voters
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: What a stupid alert.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: SC is not a blue state, it's generally backward and full of racists. Facts are facts.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I have relatives in SC and travel extensively there. I have yet to meet a mean South Carolinian.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
109. Sad jury results
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:32 PM
Feb 2016

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
125. Alert on the jury results...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:48 PM
Feb 2016

Juror #3 should be brought to the attention of Admins.

Sid

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
151. Agreed
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:26 PM
Feb 2016

KelleyD

(277 posts)
161. Agreed...total troll...n/t
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:39 PM
Feb 2016
 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
186. Maybe there is comfort in the fact that admin have banned members even when
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:58 PM
Feb 2016

their blatantly bigoted shit wasn't hidden by an obviously biased jury. Maybe.



Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
257. The problem is that those beliefs are validated unless they are condemned
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:20 AM
Feb 2016

They look around and see wow a majority is down with this crap. Then comes the imagined internet requirement to go further, become more outrageous.

The devolution of values may be the lasting residual of the revolution.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
121. Stunning
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:42 PM
Feb 2016

but I guess it's good that it remain as a testament to just how badly some have lost the plot.

That is a delete your account worthy post. Just really disgraceful, ugly stuff.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
278. You're kidding? Paternalism is ok at DU now?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:09 PM
Feb 2016

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
30. It's a recognized primary. It counts. Whatever happens it gets put with other results
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:11 PM
Feb 2016

That's the way it works.

If your candidate doesn't win, better luck in the downstream contests.
If your candidate does win, congratulations, see you in the contests downstream.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
32. LOL..
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:13 PM
Feb 2016

Sorry... the media, the campaigns and the voters on Super Tuesday wont ignore it.... because its big.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
37. I was gonna alert on this
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

But I'll let it stand in all its glorious stupidity.

obamanut2012

(25,911 posts)
103. Exactly what I did
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:25 PM
Feb 2016

It's just.....

beaglelover

(3,441 posts)
38. LOL!! Yeah, put your head in the sand. Ignore SC results. Will you ignore Super
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:20 PM
Feb 2016

Tuesday results as well?????

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
39. Holy crap
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

That's all I have to say about this shocking post. Except that my husband is a white Jewish male born and bred in South Carolina. He's a strong Hillary supporter (after being a strong Obama supporter in 2008 and 2012). Doesn't live there anymore, but still.

Really???!? I can't even ... The ugliness is too much for me.

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
231. I know. I alerted on the OP again to send to Admin for review.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:56 PM
Feb 2016

It's one of the most blatantly bigoted things I've seen on DU. Posters have been banned for far less.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
40. Dude
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:21 PM
Feb 2016

Not cool.

ismnotwasm

(41,921 posts)
43. Nope
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:23 PM
Feb 2016

Not cool at all.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
42. Please stop it...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:23 PM
Feb 2016
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
46. Ignore them?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:24 PM
Feb 2016

On today, when you say that, it can only mean one thing. You are looking to ignore the same group of voters that the GOP ignores. In doing so, you are talking about destroying lives for decades more.

You see, the adults in the room will not ignore the results today. In '08 it went 54 to 45 McCaine. You want to ignore the group that the republicans ignore in that state? Hell no. They are going to deliver SC to the Democratic Party in the next decade because Republicans are ignore them and destroying a lot of their opportunity along the way.

I want a more just society. That doesn't happen by ignoring POC who are fighting. Don't ignore them, join them. The state will turn slowly. Don't take a stand that will in turn promote further oppressive policies. Do the exact opposite of ignore. Join the fight.

cyberswede

(26,117 posts)
47. Ugh. I support Sanders, but your post is awful
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

First: we shouldn't ignore other voters
Second: that's some pretty racist shit you're saying about an entire state

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
49. I spent several hours calling voters in SC today and most were very pleasant and I disagree ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016

that we should ignore the results.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
50. Gross. You act like Obama is worse than Bush
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
51. Jajaja, don't like the outcome ignore it.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:28 PM
Feb 2016

That's rational.

Metric System

(6,048 posts)
54. Wow. And using master/servant when majority of Dem voters in SC are black?!?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

merrily

(45,251 posts)
56. We should ignore it because it's one state and one no one expected him to win.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:30 PM
Feb 2016

So far, for Sanders, there was a tie in Iowa (at most), a narrow-ish loss in Nevada and a decisive win in NH. Now Hillary will have a decisive win too, just like her almost unkinown challenger. Big deal.

No hand-wringing, no despair, no complacency, no perseverating. Just keep volunteering and donating and let the campaign do the rest.

stonecutter357

(12,682 posts)
58. .
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

72DejaVu

(1,545 posts)
59. And the mask comes off
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

Maybe some Sanders folks will finally see the dark side of their movement that we've been trying to tell them about.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
60. I will just add that Senator Sanders would say the poor and oppressed are in more need ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016

of our support and voices.



Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
61. IBTSD
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:34 PM
Feb 2016
Here's why we should ignore SC vote
Exit polls from SC show 19% want more progress, the other 81% are happy with the way things are or want to go backward.

1% of the under 30 crowd voted and it's probably because they are scared.

Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states with some of the meanest people I have ever met. It is not far from being a slave state again, only the federal government keeps it from doing so.

SC retains the Master/servant style of population. Hillary represents the master class well, with her riches and standing. Bernie, being Jewish and a white male has three strikes against him.

The poor people of that state have my utmost sympathy. They have been beaten down and oppressed for so long they don't know what's up.


KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
241. How racist, and wrong.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:05 AM
Feb 2016

Even if what RobertEarl is saying is right (but it isn't, it's incredibly racist), Bernie wouldn't have three strikes against him. He is white and male, and racists like white men. His only strike would be that he is Jewish, which would be a strike against him, but then Hillary would have a strike against her too, because she is a woman. To paraphrase Elizabeth Bennet, so far they are equal.

The dismissal of democratic voters as "not knowing what's up" is racists, just like Sanders had his unfortunate "you're smarter than that", i.e., you're smarter than the huge voting block who went for Hillary - when that huge voting block is majority black = racism. RobertEarl is saying racist things here, like his master did in his concession speech.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
62. Here's why we should ignore the SC vote ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:35 PM
Feb 2016

... because Hillary is about to win it - BIG time!

You could have just posted that, instead of being ignorant and offensive.

If the exit polls show 81% of voters being happy with the way things are, that doesn't bode well for Bernie's "The People want a Revolution" meme, does it?

And why would the under-30 crowd be scared? Scared of what? What happened to all of those young first-time voters who were going to come out in droves for Bernie? I didn't hear Bernie qualify that by saying "except in some states".

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
63. Democrats in South Carolina don't count...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:36 PM
Feb 2016

they shouldn't have any say in determining who becomes the Democratic nominee.

Is that really what you're saying?

So, poster, which states should determine who the Democratic nominee is?

Sid

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
64. Obviously sander supporters want to ignore losses
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:38 PM
Feb 2016

...they will be saying the same on NY primary...Illinois primary....California primary..But hey look at we did in New Hampshire..

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
66. Sanders will win California, NY etc.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016

And the nomination.

But as far as winning red states? Hillary has them.

grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
71. Source, please?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
124. What a pant load
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:47 PM
Feb 2016

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
130. He ain't winning in New York
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:53 PM
Feb 2016

she is very popular here and for good reason. Because despite being initially skeptical - I know I was - she turned out to be a great senator and a great representative of our proud state.

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
158. Last California poll had Sanders down 11%
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:34 PM
Feb 2016

Sanders is not polling well in California according to the latest polls that I have seen http://www.field.com/fieldpollonline/subscribers/Rls2522.pdf By the time California rolls around, the process will be over. Again with proportionate voting, it will be hard to catch Clinton after Super Tuesday. Losing California by 11 points is not a great way to become the nominee.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
329. Why, I read right here on DU ...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:04 AM
Feb 2016

... that he's going to win all 50 states!!!

How's that working out so far?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
65. I am a Bernie backer
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:39 PM
Feb 2016

And I would bet dollars to donuts that, had he won SC, you would be trumpeting what a great victory is was.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
69. Of course
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:44 PM
Feb 2016

It would have pretty much sealed Hillary's fate.

But those of us who know SC never expected that given all the establishment weight against Bernie, did he stand a chance there. Or most any other red state. They're red for a reason, right?

zappaman

(20,605 posts)
142. Yeah, you really know SC.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:15 PM
Feb 2016

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
232. Are you aware that only Democrats vote in the Democratic primary?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:00 PM
Feb 2016

The red voters - Republicans - aren't invited to vote in the Democratic primary. Maybe you didn't know that.

onenote

(42,383 posts)
318. It truly seems as if the OP doesn't understand that. And as a Bernie supporter I apologize for his
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:42 AM
Feb 2016

ignorance. Which is the nicest thing that can be said about his post.

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
336. Thanks. I appreciate that.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:09 AM
Feb 2016

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
67. Desperation. nt
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:41 PM
Feb 2016
 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
68. I'm not taking the advice of South Carolina Democrats. They haven't won a single statewide election.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:43 PM
Feb 2016

South Carolina Democratic voters are political losers. They probably sabotage their best politicians for not being neoliberal enough.

They have elected exactly zero statewide Democrats. They have 6 Republicans in the U.S. House and Clyburn is the *only* Democratic Representative.

Their state legislature is either Super Majority or near-Super Majority Republican.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Representatives_from_South_Carolina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Governor_of_South_Carolina
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_House_of_Representatives
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Carolina_Senate

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
70. They don't have much power - Dems
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:48 PM
Feb 2016

SC doesn't like the Democratic party. Because LBJ gave the southerners too many free civil rights.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
79. Still. The Democrats in South Carolina clearly haven't been able to articulate a counter-message. nt
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
85. Last I heard
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:00 PM
Feb 2016

SC has all electronic voting systems. Meaning no or very little paper for the ballots. These e-vote machines, you may remember, are what favored the bush 2004 selection and in most every other state have been trashed in favor of paper ballots.


 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
88. I did forget about that. Have Democrats in South Carolina tried to do *anything* to change that?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:03 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton pushed for them in the "Help America Vote Act".

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
94. Well, like you factually posted
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:17 PM
Feb 2016

Democrats don't have power in SC. So there is no way they can get the proper voting apparatus.

Basically, the establishment likes to be able to count the votes.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
97. True, but there are conservatives in South Carolina who distrust the things, too.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:21 PM
Feb 2016

Democrats in South Carolina could work with the conservative voters to try to get rid of black box voting.

BlueMTexpat

(15,349 posts)
72. What an offensive OP!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:49 PM
Feb 2016

We all know the real reason for the sour grapes.

South Carolina Democratic primary live updates: Hillary Clinton looks to deliver a decisive win
http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-live-updates-south-carolina-democratic-primary-trailguide-20160227-htmlstory.html

Your candidate will show class when he concedes. You should emulate his example.

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
75. The OP is truly offensive
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:52 PM
Feb 2016

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
74. All voters in the Democratic primary process need to be counted
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:51 PM
Feb 2016

I am shocked that this post survived an alert.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
78. Unrec.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:53 PM
Feb 2016

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
80. What a miserable post. nt.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 07:55 PM
Feb 2016

Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

dlwickham

(3,316 posts)
92. Racist sexist and anti-Semetic
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016

Hit a triple

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
93. Yes, clearly being a white male is such an oppressive burden
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:16 PM
Feb 2016

God is this post offensive and uninformed. Thankfully you don't speak for Sanders.

 

w4rma

(31,700 posts)
100. It has nothing to do with ethnicity. The exit polls say that conservatives and "moderates" dominate
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:23 PM
Feb 2016

the South Carolina primary. Clinton won those ideologies among black folks. Sanders edged out moderates to win among white folks and won liberals by 2 to 1.

 

The Traveler

(5,632 posts)
96. As a Sanders supporter, I have to ask have you taken complete leave of your senses?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:20 PM
Feb 2016

I mean no disrespect but, Great Scott! Was alcohol involved in the crafting of this post?

I understand frustration. You and I know from history and long experience that Clinton rhetoric is quite distinct from Clinton action. I predict that a second Clinton administration will just allow and/or enable more social and economic injustice on the black voters of South Carolina and, well, everywhere else.

But to suggest we ignore the voters and their decision is not only disrespectful and rude ... it is freaking stupid. Why did we lose South Carolina? BECAUSE WE FAILED TO MAKE OUR CASE!

And we had a strong case. So ... how did we fail? How did we fail these people? Because we DID fail them. Surely, we can blame some of it on lies, damn lies, disinformation, denial and sleaze coming out of the Clinton campaign folk, the army of lobbyists and surrogates, and many of her supporters. But I have to believe that we can penetrate that fog. And we failed to do so here. We need to attune ourselves to these voters, so they can hear us ... and so we can hear them.

Let's not let frustration or disappointment take us of our message and purpose. We're fighting for the means to better this country and elevate its people. This was always going to be an uphill battle against the machine, and we may well lose this round. Sanders may well lose the nomination, though losing SC provides no guarantee of that doom. He may well win this thing, too. We're not done yet.

But Sanders losing the nomination doesn't mean this revolution is over. And it doesn't mean we can't reach through the fog of triangulation and gather people to our cause. But we won't accomplish that by issuing pronouncements about "master/slave" relationships. The black voters of South Carolina perceived it to be in their interests to vote for Ms. Clinton. Of course, I believe firmly they were wrong. There are lessons for this movement and the Sanders campaign in this outcome. Let us be humans, use our minds and hearts, learn, and apply our acquired understanding.

Trav

Vogon_Glory

(9,086 posts)
102. The Bernie-phile Reaction I'm Waiting For
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:24 PM
Feb 2016

"We should ignore the results of the Super Tuesday votes because blah-blah-blah..."

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
105. Pretty offensive OP. EOM
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:26 PM
Feb 2016
 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
106. Please self-delete. nt
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:28 PM
Feb 2016

Zynx

(21,328 posts)
107. This is bullshit. I really don't want to dignify this with a response.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

You can't just ignore states with a constituency that is vital to the party. You just assume that they don't know what they're doing because they don't accept your agenda and instead accept a perfectly progressive agenda that isn't just your brand.

You can't do that. I'm sorry. That's no way to build a party.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
108. Is this post for real?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:31 PM
Feb 2016

If so - wow.

brer cat

(24,402 posts)
112. This is disgusting.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:35 PM
Feb 2016

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
113. Knock it off--this is really offensive of you!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:37 PM
Feb 2016

Delete this crap. Sanders supporter here.

mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
115. Three cheers for the Clinton campaign, the corporate media and the DNC who all did
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

yeoman's work to depress the vote and especially the youth vote today and in the foreseeable future!

The never ending mantra of Hillary's inevitability and "No We Can't" won the day! Other than the people who always vote Democratic out of habit, everyone stayed home.

The best future hope of the Democratic party now doesn't give shit about the political process because they know it is just as rigged as the economy if not moreso. Thanks, Clinton supporters for doing your part to ensure the triumph of oligarchy over the insidious threat of democracy!

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
116. disgusting post - but not surprising considering . . . .
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

Tarc

(10,472 posts)
118. "Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states..." ?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:40 PM
Feb 2016

"not far from being a slave state again" ?

"Hillary represents the master class well..." ?


Wow, not to subtle on the undertones there, eh?

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
119. bookmarked - further evidence of hte racism that exists in one group of supporters
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:41 PM
Feb 2016

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
140. No. It's evidence of the racism of 1 anonymous poster on the internet.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:12 PM
Feb 2016

I see many of the Sander's supporters on this thread condemning this post. The Admin should remove this poster immediately.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
141. one poster with 26 recs - but I hear you and know most do not feel that way
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:13 PM
Feb 2016

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
153. I alerted but a previous alert allowed it to remain on a 2-5 vote! Am just stunned.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:27 PM
Feb 2016

Asked the admin to review it.

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
233. That is evidence of a problem that extends beyond one poster.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:04 PM
Feb 2016

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
339. as well as 60+ recs
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:15 AM
Feb 2016

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
122. Elitest, Condescending Bullshit
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:42 PM
Feb 2016

As a red state Democrat I am offended that you think don't think my vote counts. Losing sucks-you are a sore loser!

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
127. Fukushima...It was the radiation...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:50 PM
Feb 2016

Just like the starfish...

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
143. Funny you should mention that
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:16 PM
Feb 2016

SC has some of the worst nuke facilities in the US. Savannah River leads the list in SC. And there is another rather large nuclear waste dump in the state.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
146. Hmm...See...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:19 PM
Feb 2016

That must account for Hillary's massive win in SC. Yeah... That's the ticket.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
150. NO< NO< NO
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:24 PM
Feb 2016

Radiation is good for you. And it's all handled safely and securely for the 10,000 years they say they are keeping it.

But one does have to wonder: Why 10,000 years and why do they have to keep it safe for that long?

lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
128. I'll let the votes & voters speak
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:51 PM
Feb 2016

for themselves.

ecstatic

(32,567 posts)
132. Please proceed, BernieBro...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:55 PM
Feb 2016

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
134. just shared your post with Bernie's campaign hq - I am sure they would like to hear
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:56 PM
Feb 2016

what his supporters are saying about the more "backward" parts of the U.S.

JohnnyLib2

(11,206 posts)
135. Thanks to Bernie supporters who have disowned this trash.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:57 PM
Feb 2016

ecstatic

(32,567 posts)
136. +1000. This might be the worst OP I've ever seen on here.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 08:59 PM
Feb 2016

Racist undertones. Completely tasteless!

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
138. I'm grateful that such disgusting sentiments would never befoul my thoughts
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:04 PM
Feb 2016

vile.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
206. But with 40 recs. What to do about the OP and the rec'ers?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:14 PM
Feb 2016

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
290. Sometimes people rec an awful post so that everyone sees it...but they usually
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:22 PM
Feb 2016

post saying that is why they recc'd.

johnp3907

(3,723 posts)
139. Blatantly racist.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:11 PM
Feb 2016

Off with the mask...on with the hood.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
144. Some...umm...man this is awkward.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:17 PM
Feb 2016

Clinton is winning the white vote in SC 53-47.

wildeyed

(11,240 posts)
147. oops!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:21 PM
Feb 2016

There it is! Blow out....

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
149. No...That can't be right...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:21 PM
Feb 2016

wait...really? How embarrassing...

drray23

(7,587 posts)
203. indeed. she i also voting the young vote.nt.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

Number23

(24,544 posts)
208. But white people are learned, noble and valiant!1 Whenever they vote, it's because they have
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:18 PM
Feb 2016

ACRRUATELY asseSessed the issuees and with reason and sounD logic, have made the best poSissble decision for themselves, tHeir communiteees and thEir families!111One

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
254. But he won the coveted white MEN vote which is really the only vote that counts.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:38 AM
Feb 2016

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
148. Wow a real live Bernie Bro
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:21 PM
Feb 2016

And some here try and say the don't exist!

I think you and everyone of your fellow bros who recd this thread, should head on over to Trumps campaign, I hear they need volunteers.

KelleyD

(277 posts)
154. Shameful Delete the whole op post...n/t
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:29 PM
Feb 2016

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
166. Agreed
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:44 PM
Feb 2016

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
197. No! They're a myth...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:04 PM
Feb 2016

that's what we've been told over and over and over and over and over.

Sid

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
214. Bernie Bros exist
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:26 PM
Feb 2016

Number23

(24,544 posts)
207. + a million.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:16 PM
Feb 2016

wildeyed

(11,240 posts)
155. Can't ignore the
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:29 PM
Feb 2016

the delegate math. And most of the 53 from SC will belong to Hillary Clinton after tonight.

andrewv1

(168 posts)
157. To win in the General Election you need enthusiasm...Hillary doesn't have much.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:34 PM
Feb 2016

Even with the Democratic Establishment & Mainstream Media (which to listen to them btw, has South Carolina now as "the second coming" for a state that hasn't gone Democratic since 1976?) is supporting her but it's not showing in the GE Polls.

The Democratic Voters are a "Big Tent" of different groups & if one group "stays at home" they will not win the General Election.

Everybody already knows Hillary & she is not overall liked, but Sanders generates more & more enthusiasm as people get to know him & has the possibility to bring all these groups together to win.

Mark my words, if she is the nominee she will lose by a landslide because she will not be able to differentiate herself from the Republican Candidate.

And that side will have the enthusiasm.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
159. I agree
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:35 PM
Feb 2016
Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states with some of the meanest people I have ever met. It is not far from being a slave state again, only the federal government keeps it from doing so.


I had a good friend I worked with in Colorado. Wasn't the brightest bulb in the pack, but a good friend and a nice person. I was sort of her protector. She and her boyfriend moved to SC, and a few years later I was getting some pretty ugly e-mails from her. I never challenged her on it. I just figured what the hell, I can't fight with the climate down there, and defriended her. Just stopped replying.

kjones

(1,053 posts)
160. ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:36 PM
Feb 2016

PatrynXX

(5,668 posts)
163. never mind it was a really low turn out.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:43 PM
Feb 2016

Pretty much a tell tail usually how things go. fraid the young are all enamored by Trump in that State. thats a write off state. no chance of Hillary winning that one at all. Pure Trump. I expected nothing less it was just would he get least get 25 % and looks like he did that. That ain't bad in my book for a state she expected a total win.

Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
184. Consider this
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

I live in the deep south. I have lost a lot of friends who hate me because I campaigned, on the streets, for Barack Obama, 2008.

And have rejected many a person as a friend because they were racists. Thanks, and have a nice day, jsmirman.

jsmirman

(4,507 posts)
192. I'm sure people are truly moved by your unfuckingbelievable condescension
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:01 PM
Feb 2016

just gross.

Cha

(295,929 posts)
320. Sorry, you got a hide for pointing out the obvious, jsmirman.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:47 AM
Feb 2016

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
193. Me too. REC.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:01 PM
Feb 2016

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
196. Cool. I can do multiples this way. REC.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:02 PM
Feb 2016

Gothmog

(144,005 posts)
215. Agreed as to the recs
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:27 PM
Feb 2016
 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
168. Just remember
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:45 PM
Feb 2016

It is the only primary Hillary has won, Bernie won once and now Hillary, Iowa was a virtual tie and Nevada was very close. Both Iowa and Nevada had some odd things going on there, but Bernie decided not to waste his time and energy on them. Bernie knew he was going to lose SC and put his time in other places, he said he would be very pleased if he won 20 % and 15 % would be even better.

jcgoldie

(11,584 posts)
170. this argument is offensive
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:45 PM
Feb 2016

81% still support Barack Obama... I guess you think they are too stupid to realize that your opinion is the only one. You should be ashamed of this post.

Don Draper

(187 posts)
173. It's quite typical of southern states to vote
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:48 PM
Feb 2016

Against their self interests. Let's just hope that the blue states vote for the real progressive; Bernie sanders. He is the only one who can beat trump in the GE. A vote for Hillary in the primary is like a vote for trump for president .

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
217. like those who vote for Bachmann in Minn, or Christie in NJ, or Walker in Wisc, or Brown in Mass
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:29 PM
Feb 2016

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
286. Didn't Progressive CA elect Arnold Schwarzenegger?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:32 PM
Feb 2016

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
288. and reagan and nixon
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:06 PM
Feb 2016

obamanut2012

(25,911 posts)
291. twice
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:27 PM
Feb 2016

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
321. a vote for Hillary is not a vote for Trump
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:48 AM
Feb 2016

I'm voting for Hillary because I think she has the best chance of beating Trump or the others.

what the heck is wrong with you coming here with 156 posts to tell the Hillary supporters they are voting for Trump?

what credibility do you have on the subject?

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
175. Something I've long believed
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:49 PM
Feb 2016

Has just been confirmed by this OP.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
177. There's no reason to ignore it-- but there's no reason to worry about it, either.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:50 PM
Feb 2016

No one expected SC to go for Sanders. He's not going to win every state, and that's fine. People should vote for whomever they consider to be the best candidate.

Congratulations to Hillary Clinton on her SC win.

jmowreader

(50,453 posts)
178. Here's why we should ignore RobertEarl
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:51 PM
Feb 2016

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
180. Does anyone on this board seriously think
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:51 PM
Feb 2016

anyone with a D after his or her name has any chance whatsoever of winning South Carolina in November? Not even the most ardent Hillary supporter could possibly be that delusional.

Congrats to Hillary on her win, though, and let's see how both candidates do when pitted against each other in the big states that are reliably Dem and the swing states where the election will be won or lost.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
181. Strongly disagree.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016

I am a 100%, fanatical Bernie supporter, but I strongly disagree that we should ignore this vote. A large number of African Americans came out to vote for Clinton today - we should consider that, and consider how we might appeal to them on a wider scale.

Also... not far from being a slave state again? Do you have some kind of evidence/data to support that assertion? The Master/servant style of population... again, evidence/data? You understand that a lot of people have problems with those statements, right? You understand why a large number of people, particularly African Americans, will find them deeply offensive?

The poor always have my utmost sympathy and empathy, as I am one of them. However, let's not pretend that a whole heck of a lot of poor people didn't vote for Clinton today. We should ask ourselves why. We should ask ourselves what we can do, moving forward, to appeal more strongly to black voters, latino voters, to every kind of voter in this Country.

We can learn even more from our defeats than from our victories, let's not ignore the things we learned in SC today. Every vote counts. Even those we disagree with.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
182. First, please don't mistake my Lincoln avatar with that of the individual who authored the OP.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:54 PM
Feb 2016

Second, why would the OP poster disrespect Lincoln's memory by marginalizing African Americans ? Second, doesn't this sound eerily familiar to the Republican's strategy ? Disregard the minority vote and hope that enough white people in other states will elect your candidate ? Shameful.

shireen

(8,333 posts)
183. mean post
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:55 PM
Feb 2016

that is a really horrible op-ed.

Generalizing an entire state in this way is just ridiculous.

kimbutgar

(20,882 posts)
187. I agree South Carolina is a backwards state and doesn't represent the US
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:58 PM
Feb 2016

Hillary Clinton was a known person who they all knew by name recognition.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
188. Reading a post like this I am having a hard time...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:58 PM
Feb 2016

... figuring out why Bernie has trouble getting African-Americans to vote for him.

Carolina

(6,960 posts)
189. I live in SC,
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 09:59 PM
Feb 2016

a transplant by marriage. It was culture shock when I first moved here from DC, especially politically where I found people brainwashed and frankly, ignorant of history. The south went repuke after LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act. And today many remain what I call congenital repukes.

So what about the Dems... a minority for sure and yes, POCs comprise a large part of that minority though we are only 27% of the state population per the 2010 census. And yet so many of my brethren are uninformed, misinformed and responsive to suggestions from pastors and local AA pols, many of whom were/are in the tank for HRC.

As an older woman of color, I am dismayed that many of my peers/friends on both sides of the color line were/are for HRC solely because she's a woman. When I have pointed out how she sure fought repukes with her IWR and bankruptcy bill votes OR her support of the Glass-Steagall reversal and welfare deform as well as her tenure at State that left Honduras, Libya and Syria all messes, I have been met with blank, so-what stares! I have tried talking about the TPP, the Keystone pipeline, Monsanto, fracking, etc... same reaction. Or worse, I have gotten the: I don't care about politics/I don't want to talk about politics response. What?!

These are not dumb people... some are professional women who are exceptionally, bright and talented in their fields. Yet, they are remarkably uninformed about HRC's record, listen to TV news for political information, and are amnestic about the 2008 primary campaign. I have reached a point where I think America is truly doomed and that the nation deserves the devolved 'leadership' choices that the moneyed powers offer. Only when the bottom falls out and chaos abounds will sheeple wake up... too late

I will continue to support Bernie no matter what and will write his name in the general as I cannot vote for the not-so-lesser of two evils. In the general, it really won't matter in this deep RED state.

I will add two asides. I would not paint with a broad brush and characterize the people here as mean. Quite the contrary, there truly are some wonderful people here, but the state can (some people, members of the legislature, etc.) be backward; hence the oft stated other 'motto': Thank God for Mississippi!

andrewv1

(168 posts)
210. A very good explanation of the dynamics of SC...Curious though of the MSM's sudden "elevation"
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:19 PM
Feb 2016

of this state as the "gold standard" in the Presidential Election Primaries?

Sounds like it's being pushed a little too much for some reason.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
211. The few S Carolinians I know are white
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:22 PM
Feb 2016

And they are a little mean. Especially to those who don't toe their line. Like me?

I was so happy for SC people when they took down that damn flag. You can see my post in the SC forum/group. That flag stuff just goes to show how much meanness there is, imo.

Thank you for your kind reply. You have shown real class. More than I that's for sure! Good luck down here.

 

GummyBearz

(2,931 posts)
289. Very well said
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:13 PM
Feb 2016

You should make a version of this post into its own OP.

PM Martin

(2,660 posts)
198. Black voters are the core of the Democratic party.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:06 PM
Feb 2016

Berniebros can piss and moan all they want, but ignoring the base of the party will end Bernie's campaign.

andrewv1

(168 posts)
221. So? The Progressives think they are the base & the Latino's think they are the base & etc & etc...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:32 PM
Feb 2016

We're all one "Big Tent" that wins when everybody is involved for a TRUE DEMOCRAT from thee bases together....


But's let's get back to you....

Please tell us how Bernie is ignoring the Black Base of the Party?

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
199. This OP is offensive. Consider self deleting please eom
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:06 PM
Feb 2016

jillan

(39,451 posts)
204. This Bernie supporter says no we shouldn't ignore it. Hillary kicked our ass tonite.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
205. "Not far from a slave state
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:09 PM
Feb 2016

And only the federal government keeping them from it."

I've read some dumb race baiting shit on this board. But congrats you win the prize.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
213. Kicking nt
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:25 PM
Feb 2016

FrenchieCat

(68,867 posts)
216. Mmmmmkay!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:28 PM
Feb 2016

Glad I've twitted this thread out.

Thank you for that!

musicblind

(4,484 posts)
218. Black people are a major tent pole of the Democratic party.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:29 PM
Feb 2016

If it weren't for African American's we might not even HAVE a party. I am honored that I get to share this party with them and I cannot believe that a fellow Democrat would write an OP like this.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
222. 100% of SC Democrats want progress.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:33 PM
Feb 2016

81% of SC Democrats disagree with you about what that looks like. You don't have a damn monopoly on progressivism just because you've found a shiny you like.

Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
227. Actually NO
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:49 PM
Feb 2016

The republicans are quite afraid of revealing any truths.

They are like: Yeah, we know about climate change, but don't ever talk about it. I'm like: here's how I see it.

Did SC outlaw climate change like my north of SC state did? Bunch a damned idiots in my state thinking they could alter reality by voting against it. Crazy, but them's the facts.

Welcome to DU!

Response to RobertEarl (Reply #227)

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
225. This post is racist and bigoted against South Carolina.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:46 PM
Feb 2016

It reflects very poorly on whatever candidate you support. If it's Sanders, I sincerely doubt he would agree with either this post or this tactic.

 

datguy_6

(176 posts)
226. Yep...backwards as fuck...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:48 PM
Feb 2016

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
230. Here is why we should ignore you ...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 10:55 PM
Feb 2016

Your OP is ample reason.

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
234. I must disagree
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:05 AM
Feb 2016

South Carolina is well known to be the most polite state in the nation and we are quite proud of it.

This "master/servant" dynamic you describe does not exist here. We are normal average people just like everyone everywhere else.

Jewishness is not likely to have been a significant factor. Although this state is overwhelmingly evangelical Christian, it is of the admiration-for-Jews type, not the hate-Jews type.

I usually drive 10-15 people to the polls every year. This year only one person came. The rest voted in the GOP primary for Trump. This is the explanation for the very large GOP turnout and the disappointing Democratic turnout.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
235. Welcome to DU
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:33 AM
Feb 2016

As you can see we do have some interesting discussions.

What type voting machines do you vote on?

 

AgerolanAmerican

(1,000 posts)
236. Thank you, sir.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 12:43 AM
Feb 2016

We have electronic voting machines here.

I cannot say I am comfortable with the lack of an accountable paper trail, but it appears we have little say in the matter.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
242. the under 30s are scared of....?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:06 AM
Feb 2016

Their grandparents? Is that possible?

That stat of 1% is tragic. How very sad.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
244. Good question
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:00 AM
Feb 2016

What I was referring to was being scared of being seen participating. There are many ways the establishment has of making one pay for doing something that does not further the establishment's goals.

SC has a long history of the PTB making sure the people don't overcome.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
246. I was reading on facebook just now...
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:39 AM
Feb 2016

....that there were many pickup trucks with confederate flags driving in some places in SC yesterday, and it was seen as some kind of intimidation.

It's possible that some kind of subtle suppression was going on

 

YoungDemCA

(5,714 posts)
243. 50 recs, and survived an alert
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 03:10 AM
Feb 2016

You - all of you - should be ashamed of this racist, classist garbage.

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
298. Amazing, totally unbelievable.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:00 PM
Feb 2016
How could 5 jurors be so wrong?

Orrex

(63,086 posts)
248. You left out the part about free fried chicken & watemelon
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:41 AM
Feb 2016

Holy shit what a desperately racist OP. Of all of your many fucked up posts (and there are indeed very many), this has got to be the most pointedly vile.

You do your beloved candidate no favors with your bullshit.

[font color="white"]And I will happily take the hide for calling out this garbage.[/font]

Orrex

(63,086 posts)
249. .
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:42 AM
Feb 2016

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
315. That will be on the next post.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:37 AM
Feb 2016

Sancho

(9,065 posts)
251. Obviously, Bernie agrees with you...
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:23 AM
Feb 2016
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie-sanders-looks-past-south-carolina-loss/

"There's no way we're going to lose Minnesota. I can see that," he said. "You are just too smart."


It's that attitude that ensures Hillary will win the Sunbelt - from Florida to California.

"Exit polls from SC show 19% want more progress, the other 81% are happy with the way things are or want to go backward."


I worked for Richard Riley, two term Democratic Governor of SC and Clinton's Sec. of Education. South Carolinians want change! Gerrymandering and voter manipulation are the real national problem - much more of a problem than Citizen's United. ALEC is more of a problem than inequality. Bernie is wrong, and he doesn't resonate with people who want change.

"1% of the under 30 crowd voted and it's probably because they are scared."


Young people don't vote. Bernie is hooking his star to a pretty poor wagon to depend on young people.



"The poor people of that state have my utmost sympathy. They have been beaten down and oppressed for so long they don't know what's up."


The poor in SC want SOCIAL JUSTICE...not just economic justice. If Bernie or anyone else wants to win the South as a Democrat, they need to understand that fact. Year's ago I picked tobacco in SC and GA alongside migrants. I worked through college in textile mills. When those jobs went overseas, it was a mixed blessing - the jobs also came with virtual indentureship for black and white alike. The international investments in SC are usually better employers even though there are fewer jobs. Even to hourly workers in SC decades ago, it was obvious that globalization is more often a cause of their problems than some Wall Street bank, and that some kind of international action (maybe a trade agreement, maybe some other kind of deal) is the only way to get a handle on fair competition and currency manipulation.

As a teacher in SC, I saw the way that education changed lives - and raising the minimum wage is not a substitute for simply ensuring that there are good public schools. Again, Hillary is more on track with this and Bernie is off base. Mandatory preschool, equal opportunity for educational success, and educational equality for Dreamers is the key, not free tuition.

Even though I would have voted to hide your OP if I had been on the jury, it would make sense for anyone looking at this primary to see why Bernie cannot get traction with most of the Democrats. It's not the DNC or a CT involving the media. It's simply because Bernie's focus is inconsistent with the concerns of most progressive Democrats, minorities, and immigrants. Careful analysis also shows that Hillary is a better candidate for most unions too. There are good reasons for that view. The SC primary just demonstrated Bernie's weaknesses.


Kind of Blue

(8,709 posts)
262. Thanks for this. It's so important to get
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:15 AM
Feb 2016

information like this from someone who was on the ground.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
294. Thank you Sancho.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:39 PM
Feb 2016

I've been pointing out, for a while now, that many of the issues the AA communities are talking about cannot be addressed by money alone. Your post was much better at making that point!

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
340. Good post.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:20 AM
Feb 2016

6chars

(3,967 posts)
252. Maybe life is just good for Dems in SC
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:52 AM
Feb 2016

81% of Dem voters want to stay the course (although 92% of Repub voters described themselves as angry)

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
258. yeah, RobertEarl, Bernie should just keep on ignoring African-American voters
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:27 AM
Feb 2016

Right? and just keep hoping for some wins in lily white states.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
269. 1-percent of the under 30 crowd...voted?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 05:17 PM
Feb 2016

Some Cynicism.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
275. 12.5% of Democrats even voted?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:00 PM
Feb 2016

That is incredible. That's some cynicism for ya.

No way should we take the SC vote as representing much of anything.

And from reading most of the replies to me on this thread, I get the feeling most have their heads in the sand when it comes to institutional racism in the deep south. Denial is their screed!

emulatorloo

(43,982 posts)
270. Elitist, racist, and ignorant. And now on the 'greatest page'
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:20 PM
Feb 2016

Congrats

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
271. The state which was first to fire on the American flag
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:43 PM
Feb 2016

in defense of slavery, should not be among the first four states to vote for a Democratic presidential nominee.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
273. Right, cuz of there's anyone who we should try to repress, it's the Dems there, most of whom are AA.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:57 PM
Feb 2016

That's fucked up.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
276. There are plenty of other states with lots of AA Democrats,
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:01 PM
Feb 2016

which didn't fire on Fort Sumter. I'm all for putting one of those states in South Carolina's spot on the schedule. Furthermore, that's been my position on the South Carolina primary, long predating this particular primary campaign.



Buzz cook

(2,470 posts)
310. Freed Slaves in Charleston S.C.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:14 AM
Feb 2016

Held the first Memorial Day to honor the Union men that had fallen in the Civil War. Maybe that makes up for their masters firing on Sumter.

Oh wait the blacks didn't fire on Sumter so they don't have anything to make up for.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
285. Posts like this are unconvincing in the extreme
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:31 PM
Feb 2016

Since you are talking about the DEMOCRATS in that state, the liberals who live in that state and are a minority. You are referring to the racist right wingers of that state and as though their behavior should be used as a reason not to respect the DEMOCRATS (the minority) in that state. The logic failure is obviously Stop, you make yourself look dumb.

Response to treestar (Reply #285)

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
324. I see you want to hold the Civil War against the black voters of South Carolina
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:44 AM
Feb 2016

Black voters have almost no representation in the other three states and here, in the last one, South Carolina, you want to prevent these voters from having a say because of what the confederate government did in 1861.

That's bullshit.

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
327. Your response is BULLSHIT for trying to put words in my mouth.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:53 AM
Feb 2016

Strawman much?

If it were up to me, I would evacuate all the Democrats from South Carolina to some other state, and let THEM have the early primary. Nowhere have I said that AAs shouldn't have heavy representation in one of these early states. I just have a problem with South Carolina being the one.

But don't worry, my opinion makes as little difference in the matter as yours.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
328. Actually I think my opinion has more weight than yours
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:55 AM
Feb 2016

I'm a Democrat.

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
341. Which states are good enough, in your opinion, to have early primaries?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:21 AM
Feb 2016

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
274. SOoo, are we ignoring Nevada, too?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 06:59 PM
Feb 2016

I know we want our candidate to win and all, but, c'mon. You can't pick and choose who gets to partake in democracy. This is the beauty of our process. Quite honestly, I can think of worse states. ...I won't mention any names like Mississippi, Alabama and Georgia.....

I don't think we will have to ignore anything. Have faith. I think Bernie will hold his own this Tuesday.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
277. Where are the sarcasm smilies?
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:05 PM
Feb 2016

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
279. Sorry, DU, but since this thread is officially approved
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:10 PM
Feb 2016

I am SURE that you will not mind if I post its contents on other sites.

Busy sharing.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
282. I'm spreading this one far and wide. Unless...
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:17 PM
Feb 2016

...is there any chance this is a trojan written to hurt Sanders? Because it really does hurt him. Horribly. If this gets out into the MSM, he is toasted toast with toast on the side.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
283. My opinion is that we're witnessing their real tragic reaction.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:19 PM
Feb 2016

It's horrible, but a light needs to be shone upon it.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
293. It hurts SC
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

12.5% of the Democrats voted. What happened to the other 87.5%?

Makes SC look bad, it does. And spreads the truth about the racism in SC.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
303. #NailedIt
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:54 PM
Feb 2016
 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
287. Sanders will do better when the race shifts from Dixie to Democratic states
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 07:36 PM
Feb 2016

obamanut2012

(25,911 posts)
292. lolz
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 08:30 PM
Feb 2016

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
296. Hillary is up by 8 points in Massachusetts.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:33 PM
Feb 2016
 

Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
297. Up 8% in a poll by Suffolk which overestimated Hillary's NH support by 13%. We'll see in 2 days
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 09:52 PM
Feb 2016

Either Sanders comes back from his rejection by the Dixiecrat South or we get Trump administration followed by an Elizabeth Warren presidency.

I hope we get Sanders now but I can live with Warren 2020.

Hekate

(90,202 posts)
299. "Master/servant style of population"? That's kind of a racist assumption, you know. Just wow.
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 10:13 PM
Feb 2016
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
300. I'm sorry.. post 300
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:29 PM
Feb 2016

But that's how SC looks to me. I don't like it and hope it changes soon.

jcgoldie

(11,584 posts)
305. Just stupid.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:13 AM
Feb 2016

booo

thereismore

(13,326 posts)
301. We can't ignore the facts. The youth did not turn out. Nobody did really. It's like that state is in
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:32 PM
Feb 2016

some kind of clinical death. Moving on!

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
302. I hope you only meant by ignore them, for the Sander's team to ingore the loss
Sun Feb 28, 2016, 11:53 PM
Feb 2016

Not that SC's votes should not count in the primary.

But because Sanders never really had a chance there.

If you meant we should not count certain state's votes, in the overall election, then that scares the hell out of me. It's like deja vu for literacy tests for black people or something. No one gets to vote (or their votes don't count) unless they vote the way we want them to...that is so republican.

I'm really hoping that a lot of people are just reading your words wrong (me among them).

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
304. Not this shit again.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 12:05 AM
Feb 2016

Buzz cook

(2,470 posts)
306. You should rethink your post.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:43 AM
Feb 2016
Exit polls from SC show 19% want more progress, the other 81% are happy with the way things are or want to go backward.

If this is polling data you should link to it.

1% of the under 30 crowd voted and it's probably because they are scared.

Are you honestly calling young people moral cowards? Considering they are Bernie's base that just isn't right.
I'd suggest there are other reasons young people didn't show up.

Forget SC, it is among the most backwards of states with some of the meanest people I have ever met. It is not far from being a slave state again, only the federal government keeps it from doing so.

I'd suggest that the African American citizens have something to do with South Carolina from being a slave state. I'd also suggest that not everyone in the state is a republican.

SC retains the Master/servant style of population. Hillary represents the master class well, with her riches and standing. Bernie, being Jewish and a white male has three strikes against him.

Do you realize how racist that statement is? It's exactly the same statement concervatives make when they call African Americans plantation democrats.

The poor people of that state have my utmost sympathy. They have been beaten down and oppressed for so long they don't know what's up.

And yet to lines above you say we should forget them.

The OP is just incredibly wrong headed, it shows a lack of empathy, fuzzy mindedness and at best borrowed racism.
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
307. You just read it wrong
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:50 AM
Feb 2016

It's almost as if you deny the reality that SC is a racist state,

Point: They just took down the confederate flag. Doesn't that tell you anything?

I say the vote out of SC - wherein just 8$ of the Dem voters voted for H is a sign that we should ignore any importance of that vote on the election. 8% means nothing. Ignore it and instead turn to fighting racism.

Buzz cook

(2,470 posts)
311. Sorry you wrote it wrong.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:17 AM
Feb 2016

The African Americans in SC are not the racists.

And the delegates to the convention still get to vote.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
316. Of course AA's are not the racists
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:38 AM
Feb 2016

It is the State that is. AA's are the oppressed.

Some people here read it the way intended and some did not. I am sorry for the wrong readers. You are one of the few who even dared to actually discuss it. Notice most of the posts I just ignored? They were not, and afaict never will, so they get ignored.

Thanks for the discussion.

jcgoldie

(11,584 posts)
348. Too oppressed to know whats good for themselves
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:40 AM
Feb 2016

offensive and stupid.

Beacool

(30,244 posts)
314. Hey Robert, your dog is not whistling, it's howling.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:35 AM
Feb 2016

Thanks for this post, a few more like this and Hillary will win 100% of AA voters. Anything you want to say to Hispanics?



 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
323. I hear you howling?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:08 AM
Feb 2016

Is that what you wanted?

8% of the Dem voters voted for H.

8%. Something is wrong in SC. Could it be they are still oppressed? I think so.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
338. considerably more than voted for your candidate . . . perhaps something wrong there?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 08:12 AM
Feb 2016

onenote

(42,383 posts)
319. I guess the Dean 50 state strategy is dead and buried. Didn't expect a fellow Bernie supporter to be
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:44 AM
Feb 2016

the one arguing to kill it.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
322. 50 state is a congressional strategy
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 03:03 AM
Feb 2016

The racism of SC is something hardly ever addressed outside of SC, and rarely even there. They just did take down the confederate flag, eh?

Nyan

(1,192 posts)
330. Bernie supporter here...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:40 AM
Feb 2016

Bernie wants to better the lives of every South Carolinian, whether they voted for him or not.
And also, there were tens of thousands of people who went to voting booths to vote for Bernie. Please don't make a sweeping statement about entire state. We're all in this together. That's his message and we should run on that.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
331. That's one of the dumbest and most elitist posts I've ever read on DU
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:40 AM
Feb 2016

About as bad as this Sanders volunteer below: he called up a local NAACP leader in South Carolina to pitch his candidate by telling her that "Sanders is for welfare".

Yes, because black people only want to hear about food stamps and welfare if you want their votes.

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/how-hillary-clinton-won-the-battle-for-the-black-205650975.html

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
332. How about how racist SC is?
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 04:46 AM
Feb 2016

You think being anti-racist like I am is elitist?

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
333. Tell you what
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:04 AM
Feb 2016

Just make a list of the states that you consider worthy of being considered legitimate in these primaries.

I'm going to bed now.

still_one

(91,965 posts)
334. Thanks. We all know now where the OP is coming from, and the OPs mindset,
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 05:20 AM
Feb 2016

and the reflection it leaves on the Sanders' campaign is not complementary

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
343. Bernie has no one to blame but himself for not winning even one SC county
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:21 AM
Feb 2016

He could have stayed & fought for his share of voters, but chose to move on to other states.






Response to misterhighwasted (Reply #343)

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
345. Lol. turn her back on what? She worked for every county she won.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:28 AM
Feb 2016

Which is ALL of them.
She turned her back to no one .

Edited my post for clarity. Btw

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
346. Here, this shows who neglected SC.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 10:32 AM
Feb 2016

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
350. Please... I know you mean well, but just stop trying to help...
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 11:44 AM
Feb 2016

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
352. Kick for anyone who missed this train wreck!
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:33 PM
Feb 2016
 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
353. Thank you
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 01:42 PM
Feb 2016

What we saw in SC is a mere 8% of the Dem voters voting for H. That is such a minuscule number that the results should be ignored. It means nothing, except got the fact that 87% of the Dem voters in SC ignored the opportunity to vote.

Yep, the real story is, the people of SC, the majority of Dems, ignored the vote!!

And some of you are proud of that?

yardwork

(61,418 posts)
354. Too bad that your OP didn't say that instead of what you did say.
Mon Feb 29, 2016, 02:35 PM
Feb 2016

William769

(55,124 posts)
357. So much for ignoring South Carolina!
Tue Mar 1, 2016, 10:10 PM
Mar 2016

In_The_Wind

(72,300 posts)
363. That trick never works.
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:01 AM
Mar 2016

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
364. kick
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:13 AM
Mar 2016
 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
367. Mister-I'm a Bernie supporter, I've met him 3 times over the years,and he wouldn't want your support
Wed Mar 2, 2016, 11:59 PM
Mar 2016

You think South Carolina's Democratic voters should be ignored because there's racism in the state?

Well, I expect it's no picnic being a Democrat in South Carolina, and I would expect that more than a few South Carolina Democrats have taken some dings for their support of Democratic candidates.

What you think you have to say about racism in the state is irrelevant. It's irrelevant because you're not working to do anything about it. I don't need to know you any more than I do from what you wrote to know that. You get a buzz off of vicious rhetoric, and that's it. If you really do support Bernie Sanders, the best thing you could do is not tell anyone and stop writing on political forums altogether.

I've been in a few scraps over the years with a few racist bastards who said the wrong thing at the wrong time. In their cases the wrong thing was whatever they had to say and the wrong time was when I was near enough to overhear them. And, if I just moved a very few words around of your tirade, I'd have just about what they said.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
368. That's your opinion
Thu Mar 3, 2016, 12:08 AM
Mar 2016

And you are entitled to it Except for the personal attack.

I've had it up to here with racists, and with people who look the other way.

Note that 87% of the Dem voters in SC ignored the vote. Mostly whites, I'd say.

One does what one can do to fight racism. I look forward to reading what you say about it on DU. And about what a fine state SC is, or is not. You know my opinion.

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