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PufPuf23

(8,987 posts)
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 03:56 PM Feb 2016

Charlie Rangel: ĎI Donít Know Any Black Person Who Knows Bernie Sandersí

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This is really quite strange because Charlie Rangel is a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. The CPC has 75 members in the House and one in the Senate, Bernie Sanders.

The CPC membership overlaps significantly with the Congressional Black Caucus.

Oh, and Bernie was a founding member of the CPC, along with Maxine Waters and Ron Dellums.

Surely Charlie Rangel (who’s my rep) knows this. So what is Rangel trying to say? That Bernie doesn’t have a national profile with black voters? I think that’s changing as we get deeper into the calendar.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/2/4/1480264/-Charlie-Rangel-I-Don-t-Know-Any-Black-Person-Who-Knows-Bernie-Sanders

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Charlie Rangel: ĎI Donít Know Any Black Person Who Knows Bernie Sandersí (Original Post) PufPuf23 Feb 2016 OP
what are you getting at? 6chars Feb 2016 #1
There are two items here that I probably should have pointed out so will now. PufPuf23 Feb 2016 #13
Charlie has never met Cory Booker, or Harry Belefonti, or Spike Lee, or Cornell West, or 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #2
These three nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #3
Point taken. nt 99th_Monkey Feb 2016 #7
the establishment has gone so low... SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #4
Sounds like Charlie needs to get out more. Barack_America Feb 2016 #5
As dear brother Dr. Cornel West said FangedNoumenom Feb 2016 #6
Charlie must have a very small circle of black friends. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #8
Charlie Rangel doesn't know any Black person who knows Bernie Sanders? Autumn Feb 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author whatchamacallit Feb 2016 #10
What he's is doing is what the rest have been doing. draa Feb 2016 #11
Hillary Clintonís cynical race appeals: The revenge of neoliberal identity politics = Salon article PufPuf23 Feb 2016 #14
I think it depends on what your definition of "know" is lol! NWCorona Feb 2016 #12
lol Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #16
That's just silly. bunnies Feb 2016 #15
Oh, this has got to stop! Nedsdag Feb 2016 #17
Well, I know about Bernie Sanders but i don't really know him or what he is really like. Jitter65 Feb 2016 #18
Yeah, he's corrupt. Didn't he get in some sort of trouble a few years ago? Punkingal Feb 2016 #20
Cynical, dishonest, race-baiting horseshit on his part. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #19
Some Democrats are assholes. Charlie Rangel comes to mind. I can understand if someone wants Cheese Sandwich Feb 2016 #21
slam Sanders and then say "they're trying to throw me under the bus!" when people MisterP Feb 2016 #22
Let's face it: They are ALL getting DIRTY to keep the Gravy Train on track... AzDar Feb 2016 #23
Saving this thread for when people ask me: Why oh why won't you vote for Hillary? Joe the Revelator Feb 2016 #24

PufPuf23

(8,987 posts)
13. There are two items here that I probably should have pointed out so will now.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:28 PM
Feb 2016

1. Rangel is being less than honest (and he has endorsed Hillary Clinton).

"And who is Bernie Sanders? Does anybody in the community know him, so that we can find out who he is?’ These are things that we are talking about,” said Rangel, who has endorsed Hillary Clinton.

When pressed about his statement about Sanders, Rangel responded that he is not the one who is asking these questions for Clinton’s primary opponent.

“Not me, but I don’t know any black person who knows Bernie Sanders,” he said."

I don't get why some Hillary Clinton supporters feel the need to diminish Bernie Sanders.

2. Bernie Sanders is a founding member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus (along with Ron Dellums and Maxine Waters) and a member of the Rainbow Coalition and Council on Racial Equality (CORE); Hillary Clinton was not a member of any of these organizations.

Bernie Sanders was a leading member of Jesse Jackson's Rainbow Coalition as well as being a founding member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus along with Ron Dellums and Maxine Waters.

Going back to the 1960s, Sanders was a member of Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) and we know he participated in demonstrations as well.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
2. Charlie has never met Cory Booker, or Harry Belefonti, or Spike Lee, or Cornell West, or
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:13 PM
Feb 2016

Ashley Williams, or Michelle Alexander, or Killer Mike either?

Really? Charlie must not get around much.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. These three
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:15 PM
Feb 2016

Ashley Williams, or Michelle Alexander, or Killer Mike either?


Likely, they do not move in the same circles.

 

FangedNoumenom

(145 posts)
6. As dear brother Dr. Cornel West said
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:17 PM
Feb 2016

The black political class are confusing the gravy train with the freedom train.

Sad.

Autumn

(45,519 posts)
9. Charlie Rangel doesn't know any Black person who knows Bernie Sanders?
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:19 PM
Feb 2016

That smells like steer shit to me.

Response to PufPuf23 (Original post)

draa

(975 posts)
11. What he's is doing is what the rest have been doing.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:22 PM
Feb 2016

Trying to smear Sanders and his work on civil rights to get Clinton elected. I have zero respect for these people and I don't care one bit what they've accomplished. They've lost my respect by being liars. They've also lost my vote for being no different than the Republicans

If they're going to lie, smear, and slander another Democrat they're no better than the Republicans they hate. That's exactly what our party has done to Bernie. Lie, slander, and smear. All to protect a corrupt and broken system.

Add in that they're protecting someone who's beholden to the crooks who stole so many lives in 2008 and you can see why so many people are pissed at the Democratic Party.

PufPuf23

(8,987 posts)
14. Hillary Clintonís cynical race appeals: The revenge of neoliberal identity politics = Salon article
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 04:33 PM
Feb 2016

IMHO this salon article is a fair description of what is happening.

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/19/hillary_clintons_cynical_race_appeals_the_revenge_of_neoliberal_identity_politics/

Hillary Clinton, scraping the bottom of the barrel in her attempts to discredit Bernie Sanders, is now repeatedly making the case that democratic socialism is too narrowly tailored to accommodate a true rainbow coalition. Never mind that the rise of Bill Clinton’s corporate-aligned Democratic Leadership Council served to marginalize the forces represented by Jesse Jackson’s actual Rainbow Coalition within the party.

“If we broke up the big banks tomorrow, and I will if they deserve it…would that end racism?” Clinton asked a Nevada crowd last week. “No!” they roared back again and again as she criticized Bernie Sanders’ purportedly single-issue agenda. “Would that end sexism? Would that end discrimination against the LGBT community? Would that make people feel more welcoming to immigrants overnight?”

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Clinton is panicked, terrified that a growing number of non-white voters will not back her reflexively in the Democratic primary. Seeping in through polls and pronouncements geared to manage expectations ahead of the Nevada caucuses, there is a creeping sense that Sanders might just attract not only white women but a surprising number of the people of color that pundits describe as Clinton’s “firewall.” This is American politics at peak neoliberalism, where a distorted version of identity politics is used to defend an oligarchy and a national security state, celebrating diversity in the management of exploitation and warfare.

“I think it’s very cynical,” says Rutgers historian Donna Murch, the author of a recent New Republic article titled “The Clintons’ War on Drugs: When Black Lives Didn’t Matter.” “Saying that political economy doesn’t matter to black people, I think that that is terrible. Especially when you look at the impact of what happened with the subprime crisis.”

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Nedsdag

(2,437 posts)
17. Oh, this has got to stop!
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:07 PM
Feb 2016

What in the name of Adam Clayton Powell is Rangel saying?

This is an insult to anyone who believes in the democratic process.

 

Jitter65

(3,089 posts)
18. Well, I know about Bernie Sanders but i don't really know him or what he is really like.
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:07 PM
Feb 2016

I know Charlie Rangel and what he is like after all these years in public view.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
21. Some Democrats are assholes. Charlie Rangel comes to mind. I can understand if someone wants
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 06:32 PM
Feb 2016

to support Hillary but this is the politics of personal destruction.

He's being Hillary's attack dog. Doing her dirty work so she don't have to get her hands dirty.

I'm not impressed by this. I've never had a lower opinion of the Democratic Party than right now.

 

AzDar

(14,023 posts)
23. Let's face it: They are ALL getting DIRTY to keep the Gravy Train on track...
Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:40 PM
Feb 2016

Seriously disgusting. Unforgivable

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