So let's say that Hillary wins the nomination and is elected...

[GreenPartyVoter]

Does the "Bern" movement just fade away, or do you think Berners will keep fighting for positive changes in our nation?

[itsrobert]

1. That's up to them

They will have to ask themselves that question.

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. True enough.

[libtodeath]

2. I think if she becomes what we fear then there will be a challenge to her in 2020.

That is what history shows as the usual thing that defeats an incumbent.

[GreenPartyVoter]

14. Yes, I agree.

[libtodeath]

46. I hate to think what the result of that could be.

[Le Taz Hot]

3. She'll not "win" anything.

The super delegates will make sure she's shoved into the nomination unless we can convince them otherwise. IF she's shoehorned into the nomination she'll lose General.

As for the rest, I've been fighting for social justice for 40 years. No reason I'd stop now.

[GreenPartyVoter]

17. Looking at both your points,

I agree. I think a lot of people will keep fighting the good fight.

[Cali_Democrat]

44. So you're saying Bernie will win more pledged delegates when the primary is over? nt

[brooklynite]

52. IOW you believe that Sanders will have the majority of elected delegates...

Love to know what States you think he's going to win to achieve that. The only scenario I've seen was a no-room-for-error 1-delegate majority concept, based on some fairly implausible assumptions.

[tularetom]

4. Depends on the VP on the ticket with Hillary

Because thats who we'll have to deal with after she is impeached and removed from office.

[GreenPartyVoter]

18. Hadn't thought of that possibility.

[TBF]

40. No surprises there - if she's the candidate

Julian Castro is the VP. I would be shocked if she does w/anyone else. And he will play ball w/the DNC.

[Nitram]

56. That's an odd non-sequitur! nt

[mvd]

5. Nope, it does not fade away

First of all, we must remain to pull Hillary to the left as much as we can. It won't be easy with her connections to Goldman Sachs and others. Also, we keep up the movement to get someone more progressive in when Hillary's terms are up. Maybe Warren if she wants it, and maybe other candidates will emerge.

[GreenPartyVoter]

22. Agreed. I am thinking we will see a wave of more and more progressives running and winning at

every level.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. This is a base revolt

been cooking for a while, hint for the establishment, this did not start when Bernie launched. And it is not going away, Perhaps it will take six months for a honey moon, but it is not going away.

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. That's what I think, too. I think they will assume it will disappear once we see

Hillary hard at work signing off on whatever manages to come out of Congress, but my gut feeling is that it will be too little too late, and the base will still be suffering and riled up.

[nadinbrzezinski]

16. We are in the middle of it

but historians will debate whether this started with OWS, or the student revolt in 2009 in California, The precursor to this are the WTO protests, for the US specific Seattle, And this is actually global

[GreenPartyVoter]

24. Very definitely global, no doubt about it. It didn't start with Occupy in my book, but I think it

was the most visual event to permeate the mainstream media, so that's what people will think of first.

[Liberty Sage]

7. I'm no Hillary Fan

But do we really want to fight for Socialism?

[GreenPartyVoter]

25. I got nothing but

[Bjornsdotter]

26. Democratic Socialism

...there is a difference.

[tularetom]

50. You've been living with it your entire life

Do you like social security? Medicare? Free education?

No, if you don't think these things are worth fighting for, by all means, don't fight for Socialism.

But be prepare for life as you know it to change in a thousand ways you will not like.

[BillZBubb]

53. Yes, New Deal socialism.

If that's too radical for you, why are you on a Democratic site?

[Maedhros]

55. Absolutely! It's the only solution to an ever-growing population on a planet with finite resources.

Capitalism is predicated on the demonstrably false idea that we can have infinite growth.

Capitalism is about hoarding wealth. Our species' survival depends upon us learning how to share it better.

[Lizzie Poppet]

58. With all my heart.

Thanks for asking!

[LuvLoogie]

8. I think it falls apart if Bernie returns to being an Independent.

If he remains a Democrat then there is an infrastructure that people can use. But there has to be some coalescing party structure even if Bernie removes himself from the Democrats and goes third party. I just don't know how many people would follow him that way.

[GreenPartyVoter]

27. I think it is bigger than him. I know some folks think this is a cult of personality, but I think

what is really going on here is that a lot of people find him to be someone to rally behind, for sure, but that the overall frustration with the status quo will remain and therefore the drive to change things will as well.

[LuvLoogie]

47. Well that means running for school councils and water reclamation districts and ward committeman

Ground up, developing the farm. A party structure helps sustain the long view. If we don't like our party leaders then the rank and file need to push that change. But you have to be willing to actually press the flesh, face to face on the local level or nobody is going to take you seriously.

And along the way you will come to understand that your agenda is not necessarily your neighbor's agenda. There are few things that are absolutes where EVERYONE shares them. Those things tend to be in the realm of physics and biology. Politics muddies the waters because it involves will.

[Land of Enchantment]

9. The polls show she will not win the GE against

any of the remaining GOP candidates. She comes closest to beating Kasich. I have been around for a while and have seen movements come and go. Howard Dean was the most recent and the most disappointing one in ages. Yet along came Sanders and those of us who have watched his career of taking it to the GOP will force another to emerge and ignite another movement.

[GreenPartyVoter]

28. Yes, it was awful watching the end of Dean's movement, but we are going so

much farther this time. I think even if Bernie loses, no matter who wins the GE we are all still going to be fighting for change.

[Blue_In_AK]

11. Why would it fade away?

Some of us have been fighting for positive changes for half a century.

[GreenPartyVoter]

29. So true, and thank you!

[jillan]

12. Bernie hit a nerve and it's not going away.

[GreenPartyVoter]

31. Agreed!

[TBF]

15. Let's talk about that AFTER the convention

m'kay?

[GreenPartyVoter]

32. Oh, I still think Bernie's got a great chance to win. This is just a hypothetical.

[Warren Stupidity]

19. The "Bern" movement is a direct manifestation of the "Occupy" movement.

It is a revitalization of the left as a political force in this country and elsewhere in the world.

[GreenPartyVoter]

34. Absolutely! Looking forward to all of us working hard to

make amazing changes together!

[PowerToThePeople]

20. It may morph.

I think it is the same core of people who were anti-Iraq, Occupy, and other large movements.

It will not go away, it is a continuous struggle against oppression.

[GreenPartyVoter]

35. True. I think there are always going to be people fighting back.

[still_one]

21. Whether Bernie is the nominee or not, Bernie will continue to fight for change, and I

suspect most of his supporters will too

[GreenPartyVoter]

36. Yes, I think so too.

[Godhumor]

23. Why would they go away?

Activists tend to keep advocating. Even if my candidate wins everything, we need the activist side to keep pushing social progress.

[GreenPartyVoter]

37. Very true!

[Persondem]

30. "Occupy ______" was a thing for a while, probably many of the same people are

supporting Sanders. MoveOn.org allows some of those people to focus their energy towards specific goals. IMO what would be needed is someone or some organization to continue to be a lens through which action could be focused. Otherwise "the Bern movement" will fade until the next focal point emerges.

[GreenPartyVoter]

38. I agree that we do need a focal point. The energy and desire will remain, but it helps to have a

great framework for putting it into large scale action.

[Firebrand Gary]

33. If he's as serious as I think that he is...

He will work for a liberal tidal wave to break on DC in the mid-terms. At least I hope!

[GreenPartyVoter]

39. That would be great! Flood the Hill with Progressives!

[nxylas]

41. I don't like making predictions

There are too many variables, a lot depends on whether we end up with President Clinton, President Trump, President Rubio or President Cruz. And we simply don't know what else might happen in the future - no prediction made in the spring of 2000 would have taken into account Bush vs Gore, let alone 9/11.

Having said that, my hope (not prediction) is that the fight will move to the more local level, getting "Bernie Dems" elected as congresscritters, senators and governors. Wouldn't it be wonderful if the 2018 midterms were the benign mirror image of the "Tea Party tsunami" of 2010?

[GreenPartyVoter]

43. I join you in having that hope!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

42. It won't be the first time a leftist has lost to a centrist.

But, I think, that it's possible that many Bernie supporters will be sickened enough by the corrupt political system now in place to no longer play that fixed game and look elsewhere for representation.

[GreenPartyVoter]

45. Quite possible. People ask me if I will remain a Dem now that I have changed my

registration, and I tell them that it all depends on what happens in the future. If I stop feeling like I am wanted or represented, then there would be no reason to stay, right?

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

49. I've pretty much crossed that line.

My nose holding days are over.

[liberal N proud]

48. Not if they really want to affect change

They need to get involved in the party from the local level on up. Don't like the way the ruled went against Bernie? Move to change the rules for next round. Push for more progressive candidates.

[MineralMan]

51. If they want to do that, they should work on

state legislators, long with federal House and Senate members. There's an election every two years, not just every four years. The President isn't the King or Queen in this country. We have a Congress, along with 50 state governments.

If they just sulk and go away, then the "Revolution" is over and they lost.

[drray23]

54. Hillary will set the stage for further progress

If she is president she will get to shift the supreme court to the left for the first time in 44 years.

This will enable us to focus on pushing a progressive agenda without having to worry about the SC overturning it.
If her VP is julian castro, he will win in 2024 because of the increasing demographic shift towards latinos. I would not be surprised if we win texas by then. if thats so then it is game over for extreme rwingers.

[brooklynite]

57. It would be nice to think that THIS YEAR, they'd focus on House and Senate races...

They won't have to contribute $1 Billion to Sanders' GE campaign, so there'll be plenty of cash to go around.