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Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:54 AM

I have one word for those who are saying a Bernie nomination is impossible:

California.

That is all.

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Reply I have one word for those who are saying a Bernie nomination is impossible: (Original post)
Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 OP
LexVegas Feb 2016 #1
NV Whino Feb 2016 #2
LexVegas Feb 2016 #3
amborin Feb 2016 #4
artislife Feb 2016 #25
Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #16
superkona Feb 2016 #18
NikolaC Feb 2016 #27
jfern Feb 2016 #31
onecaliberal Feb 2016 #5
Post removed Feb 2016 #6
PonyUp Feb 2016 #7
Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #8
tazkcmo Feb 2016 #28
PonyUp Feb 2016 #9
demmiblue Feb 2016 #11
Agschmid Feb 2016 #13
Lizzie Poppet Feb 2016 #17
krawhitham Feb 2016 #10
Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #12
krawhitham Feb 2016 #15
Le Taz Hot Feb 2016 #24
cascadiance Feb 2016 #20
nadinbrzezinski Feb 2016 #29
tk2kewl Feb 2016 #14
kath Feb 2016 #19
PonyUp Feb 2016 #21
pdsimdars Feb 2016 #23
Codeine Feb 2016 #22
dinkytron Feb 2016 #26
Cleita Feb 2016 #30

Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:55 AM

1. The electorate is too diverse for Bernie to win there. Sorry. nt

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:57 AM

2. And that may be the very reason Bernie can win California.

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Response to NV Whino (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 11:58 AM

3. We'll see how he does in diverse states today and on Tuesday. nt

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:00 PM

4. Bernie will win California, hands down!

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #3)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:57 PM

25. Republican states? nt

 

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:18 PM

16. I sincerely doubt that.

 

I don't think the same tactics that have worked for Hillary to garner black votes in deep-red Southern states (that she'll never win in November) are going to work in California. The Latino vote is completely up for grabs.

Hillary still holds a lead in California, but that lead has been shrinking dramatically for many weeks. California is entirely in play.

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:20 PM

18. Oh really

We will know shortly. As a native, California is Hard Core Bernieland. I bet my bones on it.

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:12 PM

27. This is purely anecdotal but

I live in Silicon Valley and go to Monterrey on the weekends sometimes and all that I have seen have been Bernie bumper stickers (with 1 or 2 exceptions). There were Bernie supporters along the road in Monterrey a couple of weeks who were getting honks, cheers and waves from people passing by. Also, when I drive through Mountain View in the morning I always see what I call the "Bernie-mobile" which is a white SUV with the Bernie logo all over it. I've even seen a couple of Bernie yard signs. I've seen maybe 2 Hillary2016 bumper stickers and a couple of Trump ones as well. Again, this is all purely anecdotal but, judging by what I have seen so far in my neck of the woods, I would say that there is a good bit of Bernie love here.

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Response to LexVegas (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:23 AM

31. Bernie won Nevada Hispanics, he can win California Hispanics

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:02 PM

5. Precisely!

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Response to Post removed (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:06 PM

7. Two words for you: No Class.

 

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Response to Post removed (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:07 PM

8. Thank you, VP Cheney.

I'm in a red part of the state and I've seen one bumper sticker for Hillary here. One. Dozens for Bernie. We're going to deliver this state to Bernie. Count on it.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:32 PM

28. Now that's low!

And well deserved! KnR!

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Response to Post removed (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:09 PM

9. I don't alert, but if I did, you would be it. nt

 

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Response to Post removed (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:10 PM

11. Nasty. n/t

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Response to Post removed (Reply #6)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:13 PM

13. I voted to hide this.

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #13)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:19 PM

17. Good for you.

 

I like vigorous debate, but posts that are nothing but vulgar sniping contribute nothing to the discussion and are best hidden.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:09 PM

10. Last poll has Hillary up by 11 in California

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-california-democratic-presidential-primary

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Pledged delegates will be allocated to a candidate in proportion to the votes he or she receives in the state's primary



Lets assume he beats her by 20 points, not going to happen but lets assume

He gets 285 she gets 190

Then there are 72 Super delegates

I do not see California as a game changer

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:12 PM

12. And she was up by 30+% in Iowa at one time too.

June is 3 months away. The momentum is with him here, DEFINITELY NOT with her. Her only supporters are blind party loyalists and The Democratic Party Machine but that's true in all states. It all has to do with turnout.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #12)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:17 PM

15. I understand that, but he will not win by 20

And even if he does it is not that much of a game changer

The Dems need to have winner take all states after the 1st few rounds (like after super Tuesday) and do away with super delegates

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #15)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:55 PM

24. I never suggested he would win by 20 points.

But, to date, there have been exactly ONE primary and two highly-suspect caucuses so, if you don't mind, it would be nice to wait until the other 47 states had a chance to vote before you throw in the towel. Are you sure you're a Bernie supporter?

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:25 PM

20. And many of those superdelegates will just love voter retribution voting them OUT later!

 

For voting against the popular vote with their UNdemocratic vote "gifts"!

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #10)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:35 PM

29. WAIT, the gaps started with a lot more

 

that said, if CA plays a role, I will eat my shoe, We are late in the calendar and it has nada to do with the parties... I think we are leading in that sense, and parties should not be anywhere close to actually running the elections or determining calendars.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:14 PM

14. Yeah. Anything can happen in California

 


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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:23 PM

19. Here is the transcript of that video of Keith's Special Comment, for those who would rather read

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Response to kath (Reply #19)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:27 PM

21. I miss Keith. nt

 

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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #14)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:33 PM

23. WOW

 

Man, could Kieth ever let it rip. I miss that.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 12:29 PM

22. It would have to be an almighty trouncing to make up the gap.

I could see him pulling out a squeaker here, but not a blowout. Recall that Hillary beat Obama here in 2008, and she's been endorsed by both of out senators.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sat Feb 27, 2016, 01:03 PM

26. I have two two words for them.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2016, 02:20 AM

30. You've got it! eom

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