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Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:49 AM

Why This Veteran Will Cast His Super Tuesday Vote For Bernie Sanders



Fri, Feb 26, 2016
by Andrew Carleen

Why This Veteran Will Cast His Super Tuesday Vote For Bernie Sanders



For a time during the summer of 2012, American service members in Afghanistan were being killed at a rate of one-per-day.

As a reservist mobilized for duty with the coalition’s counter-improvised explosive devise task force, I had a front-row seat to the dying, to the incessant drumbeat of tactical reports and makeshift combat-zone memorial ceremonies.

Those of us who were there also saw other things first-hand: immense expenditures on useless projects, such as equipping the Afghan army with bomb disposal robots, without a parallel plan to train them in their maintenance or to provide them with replacement parts; gigantic salaries paid to contractors; and endless rewriting of the strategy for a war that had already dragged on for 11 years. It was a visceral, personal lesson in quagmire.

There is an assumption in Washington to which the establishments in both parties subscribe: American military power is the antidote to all the world’s problems. This notion is so deeply entrenched that all the empirical evidence to the contrary has done nothing to shake the conviction of those engaged in making foreign policy.

Secretary Clinton deserves credit for backing away from her Iraq War vote, but she seems to have learned nothing from its disastrous fallout.

She supported the intervention in Libya, which took place without Congressional authorization and has left anarchy in its wake; she has been a leading voice among those calling for the U.S. to take a more active role in Syria; and she has backed the Obama administration’s expansive drone war, which has served as an effective propaganda tool for terrorist recruiters.

Clinton’s supporters tout her foreign policy acumen.

In large part it is how they distinguish her from her rival. Senator Sanders, they argue, dodges foreign policy questions and lacks in-depth knowledge of and plans for dealing with the international crises of our day. What that really means is that Senator Sanders has not bought into the establishment’s assumptions about American power....

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Please read the rest here~
http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2016/02/26/super-tuesday-clinton-versus-sanders-andrew-carleen


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Reply Why This Veteran Will Cast His Super Tuesday Vote For Bernie Sanders (Original post)
RiverLover Feb 2016 OP
giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #1
RiverLover Feb 2016 #2
giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #4
RiverLover Feb 2016 #5
giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #8
stonecutter357 Feb 2016 #3
debunction.junction Feb 2016 #18
giftedgirl77 Feb 2016 #20
roguevalley Feb 2016 #25
pangaia Feb 2016 #24
Vattel Feb 2016 #6
djean111 Feb 2016 #7
RiverLover Feb 2016 #9
djean111 Feb 2016 #10
Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #11
RiverLover Feb 2016 #12
Fast Walker 52 Feb 2016 #13
RiverLover Feb 2016 #16
Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #21
Laughing Mirror Feb 2016 #26
Mbrow Feb 2016 #14
erlewyne Feb 2016 #15
RiverLover Feb 2016 #17
democrank Feb 2016 #19
Katashi_itto Feb 2016 #22
kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #23

Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:53 AM

1. This veteran doesn't give a shit who another vet is voting for.

 

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Response to giftedgirl77 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:55 AM

2. Lovely.

wow

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:59 AM

4. This is just as silly as the look at what black person has endorsed

 

so & so. We don't just jump inline because one of our peers have.

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Response to giftedgirl77 (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:03 AM

5. OK

Its a well-written piece by a wise young man who doesn't jump in line with our US policy of endless war. He's knows first hand how destructive & pointless & tragic it is. I'm grateful he's out there.

Enjoy your status quo should we be unlucky enough to have a Clinton2 presidency.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:09 AM

8. Most of us don't jump inline for endless war.

 

I missed out on a lot of my kid's toddler & adolescent years because of endless deployments & ended up 100% disabled so please don't try & lecture me on this nonsense.

I would much rather have HRC in control then a republican even tho I disagree with much of her foreign policies.

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Response to giftedgirl77 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 07:57 AM

3. +1000

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Response to giftedgirl77 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:59 AM

18. Thank you for your input. Very constructive.

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Response to debunction.junction (Reply #18)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:06 AM

20. I don't understand why ppl think because I have the same experiences

 

or share the same skin tone as someone it means I'm either just jump on their bandwagon or cause.

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Response to giftedgirl77 (Reply #20)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:51 AM

25. no one asked you to. he's giving his reasons.

It isn't about you.

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Response to giftedgirl77 (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:51 AM

24. Well, I guess you told him.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:04 AM

6. It is so strange that people see her as better on foreign policy than Sanders.

 

She has been consistently clueless on issues of foreign policy.

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Response to Vattel (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:07 AM

7. Maybe there are more neocons and PNAC groupies in the Democratic Party than we thought.

 

Or maybe there are just a lot of Democrats who like war.
Bernie supporters are not going to "bring the DNC down" - the DNC is going to change so much that people will just leave.

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Response to djean111 (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:30 AM

9. Thank you. They are destroying themselves by advocating republican policies &

& conservative candidates while actively working against possible progressive challengers within the party.

Walking away. If Hillary is our nom, that's what I'll be doing. She is corrupt & doesn't represent me, nor do I believe for a millisecond she would work for women or workers or minorities or students other than pretty speeches. She'll be too busy triangulating for policies which pay back the enormous debts she owes to corporations & banks.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 08:53 AM

10. I am still waiting for answer to my question about why it is okay for Debbie DINO to

 

publicly support and fund-raise for her GOP buddies, and publicly decline to support Democrats running against them - and I am supposed to fucking fall into line behind that? That is not going to happen.

Hillary does not represent me, either. As a woman, I am embarrassed that she and her supporters thought I would blindly support her, and ignore the issues I feel so strongly about, just because I am a woman.

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Response to Vattel (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:24 AM

11. she has experience, you know

 

too bad her decisions have been largely terrible.

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:28 AM

12. Her "Hard Choices" have been wrong choices. We know she makes bad decisions.

This isn't good leadership.

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Response to RiverLover (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:32 AM

13. nothing was more disastrous in recent years than what she did in Syria

 

she has blood on her hands. But of course, Americans can't give a shit about that.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/02/14/hillary-clinton-and-syrian-bloodbath

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Response to Fast Walker 52 (Reply #13)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:50 AM

16. The media is hiding that. Its heartbreaking. Thanks for the article, holds no punches.

People need to know.

Clinton has been much more than a bit player in the Syrian crisis. Her diplomat Ambassador Christopher Stevens in Benghazi was killed as he was running a CIA operation to ship Libyan heavy weapons to Syria. Clinton herself took the lead role in organizing the so-called "Friends of Syria" to back the CIA-led insurgency.

The U.S. policy was a massive, horrific failure. Assad did not go, and was not defeated. Russia came to his support. Iran came to his support. The mercenaries sent in to overthrow him were themselves radical jihadists with their own agendas. The chaos opened the way for the Islamic State, building on disaffected Iraqi Army leaders (deposed by the US in 2003), on captured U.S. weaponry, and on the considerable backing by Saudi funds.

If the truth were fully known, the multiple scandals involved would surely rival Watergate in shaking the foundations of the US establishment.

The hubris of the United States in this approach seems to know no bounds. The tactic of CIA-led regime change is so deeply enmeshed as a "normal" instrument of U.S. foreign policy that it is hardly noticed by the U.S. public or media.

Overthrowing another government is against the U.N. charter and international law.

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Response to Vattel (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:06 AM

21. Hillary knows what the MIC wants and does it. She also knows the foreign leaders, most of whom are

corrupt when it comes to these things. The leader in Iraq we knew was corrupt and we sent billions in CASH over there which "disappeared." That's the foreign policy our leaders know. Allowing all of these contractors to go to war zones for profit on top of our soldiers meant everyone got to dip their beak in the money of war. They were paying contract truck drivers $150,000 a year, secretaries over $100,000 which means that they cost the taxpayers a lot more than a soldier doing that job like they used to. When they buy their politicians, they buy them for wars!

It's the same problem as private prisons. You will have more prisoners for longer sentences when there is a profit motive. Now they (private prisons and law enforcement) fight medical and recreational marijuana only to preserve the numbers of prisoners and the budgets to pay to catch them.

It's a coordinated thing, the politicians get us into wars for less and less cause, the contractors come in and sell us the robots to diffuse bombs and don't worry that we didn't train the locals, they sold their product and got our tax dollars.

Hillary and Bill go to Davros every year to meet with all of the parties to decide what they are going to do in the coming year so everyone gets to dip their beaks in our tax dollars. It's a big club, but we are not in it!

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Response to Vattel (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 11:29 AM

26. "gigantic salaries paid to contractors"

Not so clueless if you consider she was and is being paid to take exactly the positions she takes. Her war machine has been functioning pretty well until recently.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:38 AM

14. K&R

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:44 AM

15. This veteran is voting for Bernie Sanders.

I was taught that after we blow a country off the
face of the earth the hard work will then begin.

Someone has to go in and clean up the mess.
That was us guys. The infantry,

We never cleaned up North Korea. we Lost
We never cleaned up Viet Nam. we Lost

We have not cleaned up Iraq.
We will not clean up Afghanistan.

Yes, we are the most powerful country in the world.


I am voting for Bernie because we have work to do here in the U.S.A.

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Response to erlewyne (Reply #15)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 09:55 AM

17. Do we ever! Such an understatment.

Thanks for voting for Bernie!!! The more people look past msm & see what's really going on, the more people will come around to the good side. I just hope its in time.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:06 AM

19. One of my main reasons for supporting Bernie Sanders is his long-standing support for veterans.

Like I`ve said here many times before, I`v spent a lot of time in several VA hospitals speaking with vets. A lot of vets aren`t so eager to make excuses for that Iraq War vote.

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:15 AM

22. This Vet is Voting for Bernie Sanders

 

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Response to RiverLover (Original post)

Fri Feb 26, 2016, 10:39 AM

23. k&R

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