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Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:30 PM

Mrs. Clinton, Show Voters Those Transcripts

When the NY Times (huuuuge supporters of Clinton) tell you to release the transcripts, it's time to release them -

Mrs. Clinton, Show Voters Those Transcripts

“Everybody does it,” is an excuse expected from a mischievous child, not a presidential candidate. But that is Hillary Clinton’s latest defense for making closed-door, richly-paid speeches to big banks, which many middle-class Americans still blame for their economic pain, and then refusing to release the transcripts.

A televised town hall on Tuesday was at least the fourth candidate forum in which Mrs. Clinton was asked about those speeches. Again, she gave a terrible answer, saying that she would release the transcripts “if everybody does it, and that includes the Republicans.”

In November, she implied that her paid talks for the Wall Street firms were part of helping them rebuild after the 9/11 attacks, which “was good for the economy and it was a way to rebuke the terrorists.”

In a debate with Bernie Sanders on Feb. 4, Mrs. Clinton was asked if she would release the transcripts, and she said she would “look into it.” Later in February, asked in a CNN town hall forum why she accepted $675,000 for speeches to Goldman Sachs, she got annoyed, shrugged, and said, “That’s what they offered,” adding that “every secretary of state that I know has done that.” ...

More here: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/26/opinion/mrs-clinton-show-voters-those-transcripts.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region&_r=0

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TBF Feb 2016 OP
TubbersUK Feb 2016 #1
arcane1 Feb 2016 #2
cui bono Feb 2016 #3
pugetres Feb 2016 #4
Babel_17 Feb 2016 #5
TBF Feb 2016 #7
CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #6

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Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:45 PM

1. K & R n/t

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Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:46 PM

2. What kind of enormous ego thinks that hearing them talk is "a way to rebuke the terrorists"?


And how is accepting money from Wall St "good for the economy" exactly?

These excuses don't make any sense.

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Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:48 PM

3. k n r

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Thu Feb 25, 2016, 06:52 PM

4. Good point in that editorial...


Her first hurdle is getting through the primaries. At this point she is NOT running against the GOP. The ONLY candidate she is facing at the moment is Sen. Sanders.

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Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:21 PM

5. Wow, this is a moment of truth

Facing down the New York Times editorial board on a single, very specific, issue, and not blinking, would be an impressive feat. It would be an epic effort to sell that decision, but it would go down in history if she, her campaign, and her advocates, proved up to the task.

I'm truly curious as to the options open to Secretary Clinton.

P.S. Will the Republican begin snickering over this, starting in tonight's debate? Not many people read the opinions of The New York Times.

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Thu Feb 25, 2016, 08:25 PM

7. The Times has been getting some scathing comments lately

in reference to their worship of Madame (and not just from me!)

Folks have had enough. I think they are trying to appear objective. Also if there is stuff that does not look good it's better to get it out early.

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Thu Feb 25, 2016, 07:28 PM

6. The MSM IS In The Tank AsA "Tool" Of The Establishment... Sooo Check In With 14 Defining...

Characteristics of FASCISM...

Fourteen Defining
Characteristics Of Fascism
By Dr. Lawrence Britt
Source Free Inquiry.co

Check numbers 6, 9 and 13...

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread
domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

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