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Nanjeanne

(5,573 posts)
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:09 AM Feb 2016

Chicago Teachers Caucus Rejects Clinton Union Endorsement & Endorses Sanders!

Last edited Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:05 AM - Edit history (1)

CORE votes to endorse Bernie Sanders... Caucus leading the Chicago Teachers Union rejects earlier Clinton 'endorsement' by the American Federation of Teachers leadership...

After a heated debate, the Caucus Of Rank-and-file Educators (CORE) of the Chicago Teachers Union voted at its February 22, 2016 regular meeting to endorse the candidacy of Bernie Sanders over Hillary Clinton in the March 15, 2015 Democratic Party primary in Illinois. The vote was overwhelming in support of Sanders (this reporter is a member of CORE and was present and voting at the meeting).


ETA. updated title so Clinton people don't have a fit. For info on this "unimportant" organization of educators:

About CORE
The Caucus of Rank and File Educators (CORE) is a group of dedicated teachers, retirees, Paraprofessional School Related Personnel (PSRPs), parents, community members and other champions of public education. We fight for equitable public education and hope to improve the Chicago Teacher’s Union (CTU) so that it fights both on behalf of its members and on behalf of Chicago’s students.

The principles upon which we organize are set out in the CORE Bylaws:
Member Driven Union – The focus of the caucus is to respond to and represent the voice of the members.

Transparency & Accountability – All actions, elections and finances shall be open to all members for inspection and as such are open to public debate and discussion within the membership. We shall aggressively seek open governance in the Chicago Public Schools, Chicago Teachers Union, and all organizations that affect public education.

Education for All – CORE fights for equitable high quality education for all students and seeks to establish and maintain partnerships among parents, students, community, and labor organizations for this purpose.

Defense of Publicly Funded Public Education – Whereas public education is under attack from a well-funded group of business interests, politicians, privatizers and enemies of publicly funded public education, CORE seeks to defend publicly funded public education as the last bastion of democratic expression and hope for students in all public schools across Chicago.

Strong Contract – A strong Agreement between the Chicago Teacher’s Union and the Board of Education shall ensure that working conditions and compensation provide for optimal teaching and learning.

Really, what do here people know about education that Randi doesn't? They have a nerve preferring Sanders.

http://www.substancenews.net/articles.php?page=6143§ion=Article

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Chicago Teachers Caucus Rejects Clinton Union Endorsement & Endorses Sanders! (Original Post) Nanjeanne Feb 2016 OP
K & R AzDar Feb 2016 #1
O ooo Hill... the people are waking up!!!! yourpaljoey Feb 2016 #2
Great news!!! RiverLover Feb 2016 #3
You Betcha! CorporatistNation Feb 2016 #103
I don't think Rajm is going to help her in Chicago Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #4
it's time to start connecting those dots tk2kewl Feb 2016 #33
Rahm? George II Feb 2016 #98
First thing that came to mind! wolfie001 Feb 2016 #108
No, it's Rahm, not Rajm. George II Feb 2016 #109
Well at least here is one union workinclasszero Feb 2016 #5
Link to where Bernie has trashed union leaders cali Feb 2016 #7
I said workinclasszero Feb 2016 #9
So, arm twisting by Reid & the Casinos = all unions everywhere suck. Got it. jhart3333 Feb 2016 #20
Proof? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #23
Here's proof. zalinda Feb 2016 #27
OMG!!!! I never realized that Harry Reid.. workinclasszero Feb 2016 #32
A little over reacting? zalinda Feb 2016 #45
My concern with the whole caucus scenario is that votes are not private PWPippin Feb 2016 #62
You mean help a fellow democrat at the expense of another fellow democrat. Gore1FL Feb 2016 #72
Facts noretreatnosurrender Feb 2016 #100
No worries though workinclasszero Feb 2016 #25
Union presidents in charge of making the endorsements don't support Hillary. liberalnarb Feb 2016 #71
It wasn't enough timmymoff Feb 2016 #102
Thank you, timmymoff! Clinton supporters are doing the Bushwhack maneuver... Peace Patriot Feb 2016 #104
The rank and file actually got to decide... hoosierlib Feb 2016 #15
Oh I get it... workinclasszero Feb 2016 #22
Nope...if the leadership makes the decision its BS hoosierlib Feb 2016 #26
How many fucking times does it have to be said to you people? workinclasszero Feb 2016 #35
How many times do you have to realize that members can DISAGREE with leadership Armstead Feb 2016 #40
No fucking shit? People disagreeing with their democratically freely elected leaders workinclasszero Feb 2016 #61
You people! cannabis_flower Feb 2016 #44
What do you mean, "you people"? n/t VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #47
Progressives, probably. It may be Rahm Emanuel posting here and we know what he thinks... JonLeibowitz Feb 2016 #53
Pfffffffffffffffffffft +1 VulgarPoet Feb 2016 #54
You people? Wtf! Kittycat Feb 2016 #56
Well said! TexasMommaWithAHat Feb 2016 #80
Yup! I've been a member Plucketeer Feb 2016 #81
Pretty much leftofcool Feb 2016 #29
Bernie supporters won't have to trash this Union monicaangela Feb 2016 #85
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #6
Ten-four WillyT! erlewyne Feb 2016 #55
JUST SAY NO to the anti-union Walmart candidate gyroscope Feb 2016 #8
I am AFT and I also reject the leadership vote Generic Other Feb 2016 #10
^^^^^ your voice matters ^^^^^ Kittycat Feb 2016 #58
Good choice, Chicago Teachers Union! democrank Feb 2016 #11
Very wise. Clinton will support Charter schools over teachers unions just like her buddy Rahm. nt stillwaiting Feb 2016 #12
CTU need to focus on getting their contracts renewed. Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #13
You do understand that no state is winner take all, right? cali Feb 2016 #16
I understand how this process works. Chicago1980 Feb 2016 #21
So because Clinton will 'likely' win unions should cozy up to her? blackspade Feb 2016 #41
KICK!! Segami Feb 2016 #14
That's really gotta Bern! n/t PonyUp Feb 2016 #17
great! nt kgnu_fan Feb 2016 #18
This isn't the "Chicago Teachers Union",this is 80 people sufrommich Feb 2016 #19
I bet those 80 people are more than the Board of teachers union that endorsed Clinton Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #24
Not only is it not a representative of the union,according sufrommich Feb 2016 #28
Well I'm sure when Hill and Rahm campaign together the teachers will be thrilled! Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #31
You posted an untrue headline. nt sufrommich Feb 2016 #34
I changed it just for you. You can now take a break and have a cup of tea. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #38
Even more thrilled when they find out about... Kittycat Feb 2016 #51
This doesn't make sense. Blus4u Feb 2016 #37
You don't have to be a union member to join sufrommich Feb 2016 #42
Thank you! The headline is Monty Python-esque. NurseJackie Feb 2016 #106
Thanks! Starry Messenger Feb 2016 #110
This is good news. Blus4u Feb 2016 #30
Good to hear! kenfrequed Feb 2016 #36
K&R azurnoir Feb 2016 #39
This what a 50+1 majority means ...............................K&R ............ turbinetree Feb 2016 #43
Ok. I see you edited the header. Still good news. Smarmie Doofus Feb 2016 #46
I applaud their courage EndElectoral Feb 2016 #48
Rank and File and Unions who vote for endorsement versus officials who want Cabinet positions dr60omg Feb 2016 #49
How large is the group? kstewart33 Feb 2016 #50
Oh really? Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #57
Good news. nt mariawr Feb 2016 #52
Love how CORE endorsed a former CORE (of a different sort) member JimDandy Feb 2016 #59
Great news! K&R Duval Feb 2016 #60
Love it! Iwillnevergiveup Feb 2016 #63
Good for them, and congratulations Bernie! n/t Betty Karlson Feb 2016 #64
That's great. I wonder if the Clinton campaign recognizes what a revolt looks like within Jefferson23 Feb 2016 #65
this has very little to do w bernie. mopinko Feb 2016 #66
Thanks for that fantastic insight. Glad it has nothing to do with Sanders. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #67
K & R! TIME TO PANIC Feb 2016 #68
K&R. nt tblue37 Feb 2016 #69
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2016 #70
Sorry, but in the recently released poll frazzled Feb 2016 #73
Well then we should pick up our toys and go home. Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #75
I never said that frazzled Feb 2016 #78
I believe endorsements don't matter to Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #88
Three weeks is a long time in politics. Kentonio Feb 2016 #90
It ain't over yet! PatrickforO Feb 2016 #74
K&R leftcoastmountains Feb 2016 #76
Wonderful... Orange Butterfly Feb 2016 #77
Exactly Orange Butterfly! monicaangela Feb 2016 #83
Gratitude... Orange Butterfly Feb 2016 #87
Count on me for support if you ever need it! monicaangela Feb 2016 #101
So now caucuses are great? I'm so confused! randome Feb 2016 #79
Lol - really? You don't understand the difference between a caucus of a group of people and a caucus jillan Feb 2016 #84
Wow! That is awesome! Waiting For Everyman Feb 2016 #82
Let us compare. Amimnoch Feb 2016 #86
I think that is a sad list LiberalLovinLug Feb 2016 #94
I am a member of California teachers association californiabernin Feb 2016 #89
My teacher friends here in CT are all Sanders supporters too! Nanjeanne Feb 2016 #91
K&R CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #92
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Feb 2016 #93
Heh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2016 #95
So pleased it seems though when ... dr60omg Feb 2016 #96
Total K & R! SoapBox Feb 2016 #97
That ought to get under Ram's skin. Dont call me Shirley Feb 2016 #99
They might change their minds... Fairgo Feb 2016 #105
Great post. Major Hogwash Feb 2016 #107

Nanjeanne

(5,573 posts)
4. I don't think Rajm is going to help her in Chicago
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:20 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:03 AM - Edit history (2)

I wonder if she will keep him under wraps.

And yes. It sounds like a dreadful organization. What do they know!

About CORE
The Caucus of Rank and File Educators (CORE) is a group of dedicated teachers, retirees, Paraprofessional School Related Personnel (PSRPs), parents, community members and other champions of public education. We fight for equitable public education and hope to improve the Chicago Teacher’s Union (CTU) so that it fights both on behalf of its members and on behalf of Chicago’s students.

The principles upon which we organize are set out in the CORE Bylaws:
Member Driven Union – The focus of the caucus is to respond to and represent the voice of the members.

Transparency & Accountability – All actions, elections and finances shall be open to all members for inspection and as such are open to public debate and discussion within the membership. We shall aggressively seek open governance in the Chicago Public Schools, Chicago Teachers Union, and all organizations that affect public education.

Education for All – CORE fights for equitable high quality education for all students and seeks to establish and maintain partnerships among parents, students, community, and labor organizations for this purpose.

Defense of Publicly Funded Public Education – Whereas public education is under attack from a well-funded group of business interests, politicians, privatizers and enemies of publicly funded public education, CORE seeks to defend publicly funded public education as the last bastion of democratic expression and hope for students in all public schools across Chicago.

Strong Contract – A strong Agreement between the Chicago Teacher’s Union and the Board of Education shall ensure that working conditions and compensation provide for optimal teaching and learning.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
27. Here's proof.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:53 AM
Feb 2016

Harry Reid Rushed Home to Nevada to Help Rig Caucus Results for Clinton


A week before the Nevada caucuses, as new polls showed Sen. Bernie Sanders’ support in the state surging, Mr. Reid made a call to the head of Nevada’s most powerful union—the Culinary Workers Union in Las Vegas, which did not plan on engaging in the caucuses—and influenced the union’s decision. Mr. Reid also made calls to casino executives along the Las Vegas strip to ensure casino workers were given time off to join the caucuses on the strip, which was predicted to be Ms. Clinton’s stronghold in the state. Mr. Reid’s gamble paid off, with all six casino caucuses favoring Ms. Clinton over Mr. Sanders by 109 to 52.


http://observer.com/2016/02/harry-reid-rushed-home-to-nevada-to-help-rig-caucus-results-for-clinton/

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
32. OMG!!!! I never realized that Harry Reid..
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:59 AM
Feb 2016

a democrat, make a fucking phone call to another democrat, to help another democrat!

The man should be horsewhipped!!!!

ALERT THE MEDIA somebody! Oh the humanity!!!

So now all unions are run by corrupt bosses????

You people are sad as hell.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
45. A little over reacting?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:12 AM
Feb 2016

The Culinary union was going to sit out the caucus, but after Reid called they were told to go. The other union bosses were also able to negotiate to get their members time off.

And, the biggest problem with the caucuses is that the very people who really need to be heard (no union) can't be, because THEY can't get off work or they'll lose their jobs.

But, keep up the sarcasm, it suits Hillary, and turns off Bernie supporters. I'm voting for a person, not against.

Z

PWPippin

(213 posts)
62. My concern with the whole caucus scenario is that votes are not private
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:53 AM
Feb 2016

and union bosses, who may have voted differently, can see how union members are voting. The bosses may, in fact, be precinct captains. How is this not intimidation? If you fear for your job, can you vote freely in front of your boss? This does not seem democratic to me.

Gore1FL

(22,146 posts)
72. You mean help a fellow democrat at the expense of another fellow democrat.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:23 AM
Feb 2016

Leaving that out followed by the attempted sarcasm that neglects that obvious excluded fact torpedoes your argument and (minimally) lowers your credibility on this topic.


An honest debate is the best debate.

noretreatnosurrender

(1,890 posts)
100. Facts
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:36 PM
Feb 2016

If you are ok with Harry Reid helping Hillary after declaring that he was "neutral" that's your business. However, conflating this fact to then say that Sanders supporters are saying that all unions are run by corrupt bosses is disingenuous.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
25. No worries though
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:52 AM
Feb 2016

All this anti union sentiment is getting out to the states that haven't held their primaries yet.

People are seeing exactly which campaign its coming from, have no doubt!

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
71. Union presidents in charge of making the endorsements don't support Hillary.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:20 AM
Feb 2016

They are bullied into endorsing the establishment candidate. For fear of losing delegates

 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
102. It wasn't enough
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:02 PM
Feb 2016

to send John Lewis out there to slander Bernie, it wasn't enough to send Heurta out there with lies of "English only" You now need to claim that we are anti-union, when in fact we are the pro-union supporters. The candidate I support never was on a board of Wal-mart. the candidate I support didn't support NAFTA. The candidate I support did not until recently stop supporting the TPP, which would hurt workers. What issue does your candidate have that isn't both sided? The anti- union sentiment is being noted by union workers across America. they believe it comes from the Hillary camp and her record would suggest that. In my town the plumbers and laborer's local members support Bernie, but guess who leadership supports? Deal with the fact it is actually your candidate who is bad for workers of all dynamics, she wants to start negotiating from the bottom dollar price, this is yet another example of her poor judgment and negotiating skills. The union members would rather support someone like FDR than someone who liked TPP until a few months ago.

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
104. Thank you, timmymoff! Clinton supporters are doing the Bushwhack maneuver...
Wed Feb 24, 2016, 01:46 AM
Feb 2016

...that I identified during the Bush junta, as follows:

Whatever they say, the opposite is true. And whatever they accuse others of doing, they are doing or planning to do.


It was a pretty reliable rule-of-thumb for figuring out the truth of things from the Bushwhacks. And it's turning out to be a useful rule-of-thumb for Clinton supporters as well.

It used to be called "the Big Lie." Just reverse something (i.e., "war is peace&quot , say it often enough, and you can cause the human brain to believe the opposite of what is true.

Clinton really is anti-union, anti-worker, anti-poor people (black, brown, white or other), and anti-middle class, if her previous actions and those of her husband--which, as far as we know, she fully supported-- are any guide, and if her current associations and donors are any guide.

Jobs FLOODED out of the country and we saw U.S. communities--the poor, the black and brown most of all--decimated by NAFTA, doubly decimated by Clinton welfare "reform," and triply decimated by the corrupt, murderous, failed U.S. "war on drugs" and mass incarceration in frigging private prisons!

Meanwhile, pals of the Clintons made money hand over fist with all these Clinton POLICIES. Every job taken out of the country, to cheap labor markets abroad, made the uber-rich richer, and depressed wages here, making yet more money for the uber-rich. Some of their uber-rich pals made out like bandits on the mortgage fraud and the Great Recession--partially induced by Bill getting rid of the New Deal "Glass-Steagall" regulations--while African-American communities lost half their wealth, and tens of thousands of ordinary people were thrown out of their homes. Then they made out like bandits again with trillions of dollars in bailout money--OUR tax money!

So, what do Clinton supporters do? They try to make BERNIE SANDERS--who has strongly opposed "free trade for the rich"--look anti-union! They try to make BERNIE SANDERS--who actually has a documented record in the civil rights movement, and has supported civil rights and economic fairness all his life--look like a white racist, with goddamn lies and dirty tricks!

It's "the Big Lie" technique. Sick. Nasty. And incredibly irresponsible.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
22. Oh I get it...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:48 AM
Feb 2016

If they pick Bernie, they are a great and wonderful union.

If they pick Hillary well obviously its due to corrupt union bosses, etc.

Does that about cover it.

 

hoosierlib

(710 posts)
26. Nope...if the leadership makes the decision its BS
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:52 AM
Feb 2016

When the actual rank and file get to vote on who they union endorses its fair.

The issue that I and most Bernie supports andsom unikn members have has been thr string of endoresements for HRC with little to no input from the rank and file members...

If the vote for HRC, then so be it. But to force it upon uniin members because the leadership is in bed with HRC and the Democratic political establishment is outrageous and undemocratic.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
35. How many fucking times does it have to be said to you people?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:03 AM
Feb 2016

The union members FREELY ELECTED their leadership to carry out their wishes!!!!!

FUCK!

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
40. How many times do you have to realize that members can DISAGREE with leadership
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:06 AM
Feb 2016

It is possible to support a leader while disagreeing with them on some matters.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
61. No fucking shit? People disagreeing with their democratically freely elected leaders
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:47 AM
Feb 2016

Last edited Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:22 AM - Edit history (1)

in no way constitutes CORRUPTION!

If the members don't like what their leaders have done they can again freely vote to throw them out!

And again...this is in no way CORRUPT! Its called DEMOCRACY! Ever heard of it? Why do Bernie fans hate the democratic process so much???

I don't get it?

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
56. You people? Wtf!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:36 AM
Feb 2016

They elect them to negotiate and speak on issues, not take their voice away on who they as a collective wish to endorse. An individual or elite group may come to a different decision than rank and file for matters like that. Which is why GOOd union bosses send out polls and collect data. It's also why they collect data on key issues like contract negotiation, so that when they do speak for them - they know they have their full backing and support.

Something YOU PEOPLE keep forgetting. Maybe this is why our political system is so fucked up.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
81. Yup! I've been a member
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:59 AM
Feb 2016

in several different unions during my working years. Our union leaders would hold meetings where they listened to what the members wanted before they went to negotiating or endorsing. I think that's how democracy's 'sposed to work.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
85. Bernie supporters won't have to trash this Union
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:25 PM
Feb 2016

It appears the teachers, members of this union have spoken. They would rather not have Hillary as President.

erlewyne

(1,115 posts)
55. Ten-four WillyT!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:34 AM
Feb 2016

I just wanted to post something positive. Cali's post (above)
was super. I am Bernie all the way. I am still chuckling.
Go Chicago Teachers! Cali lit a fire LOL!

Generic Other

(29,019 posts)
10. I am AFT and I also reject the leadership vote
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:30 AM
Feb 2016

They never asked the rank and file how we felt. Guess this explains why!

Kittycat

(10,493 posts)
58. ^^^^^ your voice matters ^^^^^
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:37 AM
Feb 2016

Whether you support Bernie or HRC. Your voice matters, and you should have had a say.

Chicago1980

(1,968 posts)
13. CTU need to focus on getting their contracts renewed.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:40 AM
Feb 2016

Wanting more money when both the city and state are strapped.

The state more than likely will be going for Clinton anyway.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
41. So because Clinton will 'likely' win unions should cozy up to her?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:07 AM
Feb 2016

Why? Is it because favors are done to those that fall in line?
Is that the angle you really want to work?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
19. This isn't the "Chicago Teachers Union",this is 80 people
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:45 AM
Feb 2016

out of a union that has 30,000 members. Headline is a joke.

Nanjeanne

(5,573 posts)
24. I bet those 80 people are more than the Board of teachers union that endorsed Clinton
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:49 AM
Feb 2016

Let's see there was Randi and ..., how many others?

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
28. Not only is it not a representative of the union,according
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 09:53 AM
Feb 2016

to their web page,you don't even have to be a union member to join.

Blus4u

(608 posts)
37. This doesn't make sense.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

If you aren't a member, you join to become a member. Could you have meant 'don't have to be a teacher' to become a member of their union?

Peace

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
42. You don't have to be a union member to join
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:07 AM
Feb 2016

the Caucus Of Rank-and-file Educators. They are not the Chicago Teachers Union.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
36. Good to hear!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:04 AM
Feb 2016

I am glad that some of the unions are actually looking at the records of the candidates and where they have stood in the past.

turbinetree

(25,565 posts)
43. This what a 50+1 majority means ...............................K&R ............
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:10 AM
Feb 2016

Honk-----------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016

Feel the Bern

Yeah!!!!!!!

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
46. Ok. I see you edited the header. Still good news.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:14 AM
Feb 2016

And I am totally for Sanders ( tried to persuade my own NYC AFT caucus to do what CORE just did).

What's the story w. this, though:

>>> What was not taken was a vote, that had earlier been discussed by not decided, to call for a special meeting of the union's 800-member House of Delegates prior to the March 15 Illinois voting.>>>>

Why not put it to a vote of the "official" CTU ?

dr60omg

(283 posts)
49. Rank and File and Unions who vote for endorsement versus officials who want Cabinet positions
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:22 AM
Feb 2016

Randi Weingarden wants a cabinet position. I am livid that people like Gutierrez over Jesus "Cjuy" Garcia that ought to say a great deal.

I am glad there is a group in Chicago standing up to this neoliberal dismantling of public education which Randi seems to favor ....

Unions need to wrest support from people like her ... it is about the members and if the rank and file do not show up to help Clinton but do what the National Nurses Union did ... Sanders can win

Nanjeanne

(5,573 posts)
57. Oh really?
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:37 AM
Feb 2016

You might want to read the following about how instrumental the group is and was in beating back Rahms horrible plans for Chicago schools.

Three years ago when the Caucus of Rank and File Educators (CORE) ran for leadership of the CTU, few would have predicted their ability to turn the union around from six years of do-little leadership into a force capable of taking on a nationally funded, bipartisan “education reform” movement that seemed likely to achieve its goal of weakening and possibly destroying the largest remaining union sector in the United States—public education unions. CORE and the CTU’s success was not due to replacing a weak leadership with a militant one willing to strike, but rather to the creation of a layer of union members in the CTU who saw the struggle as one for what CTU president Karen Lewis calls “the soul of public education.”


http://monthlyreview.org/2013/06/01/creating-a-new-model-of-a-social-union/

This is so typical of Clinton and her supporters. If it's not "establishment" it means nothing. They don't care if an organization stand for progressive values, real education reform, etc. they would rather stand with Arne Duncan than the teachers and other educators fighting for their children. This is your Democratic Party folks. So sad to see a real democratic organization belittled when they stand for what used to be the party's values.

Oh and I bet the organization is larger than the 120 ppl or 75% of the Union Board who voted to endorse Clinton.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
59. Love how CORE endorsed a former CORE (of a different sort) member
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:45 AM
Feb 2016

They probably were a lttle tickled by the coincidence.

Iwillnevergiveup

(9,298 posts)
63. Love it!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:53 AM
Feb 2016

Began my teaching career at McCorkle School, at State and 33rd. Fond memories of my union rep and mentor. She was instrumental in my decision to stay with teaching.

K&R

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
65. That's great. I wonder if the Clinton campaign recognizes what a revolt looks like within
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:57 AM
Feb 2016

our own party. Open your eyes folks, this is not going to go away even if she wins.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
73. Sorry, but in the recently released poll
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:23 AM
Feb 2016

from the prestigious Paul Simon Public Policy Institute, Hillary Clinton is leading Bernie Sanders 55% to 32% in the City of Chicago (with 13% undecided there). She is leading him 63% to 23% among non-white voters (with 14% undecided). Even if he were to pick up all of the undecided votes in Chicago, or among non-white voters, his percentage would not exceed hers. The primary is in 3 weeks.

http://paulsimoninstitute.siu.edu/_common/documents/psppi-simon-poll-spring-2016-illinois-presidential-primary.pdf

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
78. I never said that
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:50 AM
Feb 2016

I simply pointed out that an endorsement from a caucus within a union has a very uphill battle in erasing Clinton's apparent commanding lead in the Illinois primary, given the only polling data available for this state.

Isn't it the Sanders's side that is always saying endorsements don't matter?

Nanjeanne

(5,573 posts)
88. I believe endorsements don't matter to
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:36 PM
Feb 2016

General voters very much. Unless it's a celebrity someone loves. I think grass roots organizations can help get out the vote.

 

Orange Butterfly

(205 posts)
87. Gratitude...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 01:17 PM
Feb 2016

So glad to be here MonicaAngela
Thanks for the welcome.
I feel at home as I see this is a Pro-Bernie site and interracial.

monicaangela

(1,508 posts)
101. Count on me for support if you ever need it!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 10:39 PM
Feb 2016

And yes, this is a Pro Bernie site, however we also have some who are Pro Hillary, which is fine too. I prefer Bernie!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
79. So now caucuses are great? I'm so confused!
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 11:55 AM
Feb 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.
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jillan

(39,451 posts)
84. Lol - really? You don't understand the difference between a caucus of a group of people and a caucus
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:17 PM
Feb 2016

in a presidential primary?

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
86. Let us compare.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:42 PM
Feb 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign_endorsements%2C_2016

Current US Cabinet members:
Hillary: 4
Bernie: 0

Current Governors:
Hillary: 12
Bernie: 0

Current US Senators:
Hillary: 39
Bernie: 0 (Extra sad considering this is and has been his work place for decades)

Current US Representatives:
Hillary: 159
Bernie: 3

DNC:
Hillary: Some huge number (got tired of scrolling up and down)
Bernie: 9

Unions:
Hillary: 24
Bernie: 5

and on.. and on.. and on..

I think the only endorsement group that she doesn't completely dominate in is "Voice artists and musicians"

Hillary: 96
Bernie: 152

So, tell me again how Bernie's very admirable and very ambitious list of campaign promises are anything but a lie? Maybe a well intentioned lie, but unless he's completely ignorant of how Congress works, or what the next congress is shaping up to look like.. It's a work of pure fiction and false hope.

He's working with a Senate that, even those in his party aren't feeling the Bern. He's working with a House of Representatives where even those in his party aren't feeling the Bern. DNC? Not feeling the Bern.


LiberalLovinLug

(14,390 posts)
94. I think that is a sad list
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 06:12 PM
Feb 2016

All it does is confirm how broken and rigged the whole Washington game is.
How many of those endorsements were long before the Bernie surge, or even before he announced he would run? Or even in the first weeks after that? She was the "Inevitable One". She was/is going to be, if not their boss, then someone with a lot of say over endorsing their proposals, visiting their constituents, in other words being one of the few that did NOT endorse her would mean almost certainly being ostracized by the White House, and maybe more important the DNC ie. Hillary's Ace in the Hole. If this list was remotely reflective of these reps constituents, and were done today, it would may be much closer, even if still leaning establishment. Although the establishment machine is so damn powerful, and repercussions so damaging to a political career, that it takes a brave soul, wearing a D, that would publicly thumb their nose at the Democrat's Royal Family. I admire those few that voted for the "outsider" regardless.

And a few Union bosses also looking to curry favour (with the projected President) over the interests of their members. Sure.

The only group you mention that has no blowback to worry about are the ones that overwhelmingly support Sanders. Just to nail the point down.




 

californiabernin

(421 posts)
89. I am a member of California teachers association
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 02:21 PM
Feb 2016

A lot of us are really pissed the so called leadership came out early and endorsed Clinton. She absolutely does not have majority support of teachers.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
95. Heh.
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 07:25 PM
Feb 2016
The Executive Council of the American Federation of Teachers (AFT) had endorsed the Clinton candidacy after a controversial "push poll," which AFT President Randi Weingarten tried to characterize as a "survey" of the union's members, hence justifying the early Clinton endorsement.

dr60omg

(283 posts)
96. So pleased it seems though when ...
Tue Feb 23, 2016, 07:56 PM
Feb 2016

Members have a vote rather than what was done by the AFT they vote for Sanders. As does the rank and file even when their elected union heads vote for Clinton and dictate to the members what to do. See for example the National Nurses Union which is the largest female-centric union in the nation.
The FEDERATION is neutral until after the elections but I would venture a guess that there will not be much knocking on doors etc this campaign season for Clinton, there may be volunteers for down ballot races.

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