Five Children Murdered After They Were Deported Back To Honduras

[cali]

Hillary has strongly supported sending unaccompanied undocumented children back to this hell she was instrumental in creating. Let me point out that this is from John podesta's site, and as we know, Podesta is the chair of Hillary's campaign, so this very rah rah Hillary site omits all mention of Hillary's repeated calls to send kids back, and doesn't mention her role in supporting the right wing military coup in Honduras. God, I'm glad I don't have to make excuses for her.



Between five and ten migrant children have been killed since February after the United States deported them back to Honduras, a morgue director told the Los Angeles Times. Lawmakers have yet to come up with best practices to deal with the waves of unaccompanied children apprehended by Border Patrol agents, but some politicians refute claims that children are fleeing violence and are opting instead to fund legislation that would fast-track their deportations.

San Pedro Sula morgue director Hector Hernandez told the Los Angeles Times that his morgue has taken in 42 dead children since February. According to an interview with relatives by the LA Times, one teenager was shot dead hours after getting deported. Last year, San Pedro Sula saw 187 killings for every 100,000 residents, a statistic that has given the city the gruesome distinction as the murder capital of the world. That distinction has also been backed up by an U.S. Customs and Border Protection agency infographic, which found that many Honduran children are on the run from extremely violent regions “where they probably perceive the risk of traveling alone to the U.S. preferable to remaining at home.” Hugo Ramon Maldonado of the Committee for the Protection of Human Rights in Honduras believes that about 80 percent of Hondurans making the exodus are fleeing crime or violence.

Since October 2013, Border Patrol agents have apprehended about 63,000 unaccompanied children and another 63,000 “family units” (adults and children) at the southern U.S. border. While a steady stream of deported immigrants are flown back to Honduras about three times per week, the United States sent its first planeload of about 40 Honduran mothers and children from this particular wave in mid-July. Those individuals were dropped off in Honduras’ capital San Pedro Sula.

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http://thinkprogress.org/immigration/2014/08/19/3472301/five-children-killed-after-deportation-honduras/

[polly7]

1. Horrible :( nt.

[John Poet]

45. I guess this is what she means by "a progressive

who gets things done".

[tk2kewl]

2. I guess they learned that lesson Hillary spoke of

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[bunnies]

30. You nailed it. //endthread. Nt

[tk2kewl]

33. Her defenders are conspicuously absent from this thread

[bunnies]

52. Same thing happened in the post about

The Clinton people cheating in Nevada. Go figure.

[jillan]

51. Heartbreaking

[PonyUp]

3. How could either candidate support this? n/t

[elleng]

4. 'Gov. Martin O'Malley came under fire Wednesday for advocating for thousands of children

entering the U.S. illegally while simultaneously trying to wave the White House off a potential shelter in Westminster, Md.

CNN and others reported that O'Malley spoke Friday with White House adviser Cecilia Muñoz and requested that the administration reconsider its assessment of a former Army Reserve Center in Carroll County. A White House official confirmed the conversation to The Sun but declined to comment on the nature of the call.

Late last week, at a meeting of the National Governors Association in Nashville, O'Malley urged compassion for the children and argued that they receive due process before being deported. The comments came as the Obama administration is seeking to alter legal protections for the children in order to expedite their removal.'

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/blog/bal-omalley-defends-position-on-immigrant-children-20140716-story.html

[cali]

5. Yes, O'Malley was great on immigration. I miss him.

[JustAnotherGen]

6. Plus 100

That's our O'Malley!

[EndElectoral]

7. This mess is directly related to Clinton's inaction to the coup of Zelaya in 2009

God what a mess. Add in Libya and Iraq and she's been a foreign policy disaster.

[cali]

8. It certainly is. Shame on Hillary!

[trillion]

26. Yep.

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/exclusive_hillary_clinton_sold_out_honduras_lanny_davis_corporate_cash_and_the_real_story_about_the_death_of_a_latin_america_democracy/

[Unknown Beatle]

74. If she's willing to do that to a democratically elected president in Honduras,

for money, no less, imagine what she could do to the US, for money again. And she's receiving tons of cash from the usual suspects for a quid pro quo if she's elected.

She says she cares about democracy and she's a progressive when all you have to do is Google her history to find out she's anything but...

[trillion]

78. It is revealing about her supporters that's for sure.

It is completely shameless that she gets up at campaign ralles and claims the opposite while KNOWING what she did in South America, Syria, etc. That's there the sociopath comes in. I can't see someone doing that who isn't one. Even her, "I'm not bought out claims" should have alerted anyone that the woman is way past a liar. Her super pac is out there. Everything is and she lies anyway and smiles while doing it. I don't believe she just got corrupt in the senate. I think she was always like this and nobody could tell because they didn't have the record yet.

[Fast Walker 52]

62. yep --"How Secretary of State Clinton Enabled the Coup in Honduras"

http://commondreams.org/views/2016/02/19/how-secretary-state-clinton-enabled-coup-honduras

shameful

[MisterP]

9. this is why what didn't happen in Nevada was spread so widely

if you point out the truth you're "attacking"

to be blunt, Clinton is a positive and active evil for Latinos--walls and deportations aside, her little adventure in Honduras against democracy has created a narcostate and cost hundreds of lives and broken the hearts of people who've fought for human rights for decades

[cali]

10. What she did to democracy in Honduras is disgraceful

[MisterP]

11. "paralelismo": don't like the leadership of a union or country? lock the doors (literally) and

have them "elect" another; it's the way of doing things in Honduras

they HAVE to scream "this is not about your white Berniebro egos!111" because their candidate's a ruthless degolladora

[cali]

12. Kick

[trillion]

13. And who helped the coup that over threw the Leftist President and destabilized the

country - causing the blood shed still going on today as well as the immigrant crisis?

That would be Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.


http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/exclusive_hillary_clinton_sold_out_honduras_lanny_davis_corporate_cash_and_the_real_story_about_the_death_of_a_latin_america_democracy/


http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/9/hillary-clinton-honduraslatinamericaforeignpolicy.html

"The homicide rate in Honduras, already the highest in the world, increased by 50 percent from 2008 to 2011; political repression, the murder of opposition political candidates, peasant organizers and LGBT activists increased and continue to this day. Femicides skyrocketed. The violence and insecurity were exacerbated by a generalized institutional collapse. Drug-related violence has worsened amid allegations of rampant corruption in Honduras’ police and government. While the gangs are responsible for much of the violence, Honduran security forces have engaged in a wave of killings and other human rights crimes with impunity.

Despite this, however, both under Clinton and Kerry, the State Department’s response to the violence and military and police impunity has largely been silence, along with continued U.S. aid to Honduran security forces. In “Hard Choices,” Clinton describes her role in the aftermath of the coup that brought about this dire situation. Her firsthand account is significant both for the confession of an important truth and for a crucial false testimony."

[Wilms]

14. .

Good 'ol Lanny Davis.

[cali]

16. He is such a corrupt, slimy creep. He makes my stomach turn.

[Uncle Joe]

15. That's one hell of a "message."

Thanks for the thread, cali.

[trillion]

17. Excellent video.

[cali]

20. Grrr. She really is.... something. Disgraceful.

[Uncle Joe]

27. And a little more backdrop for those people not familiar with the military coup in Honduras and

Hillary's role in it.

[cali]

29. Excellent. Thank you.

Those emails damn her. And so do many other things.

[Hydra]

73. That's absolutely horrid

"Sending a message"- "We don't give a **** about your children. We're sending them back to die."

[Oilwellian]

18. It's the Hillary way

[cali]

34. She makes me sick.

[Arazi]

19. She is drenched in blood from this to her cluster bomb support

from Iraq through Syria and Libya



Just can't vote for her

[cali]

22. Yes, she certainly is

She still has a way to go to catch up to her pal Kissinger though.

[Mike__M]

21. Whose abuela?

Not mine.

She worries about children everywhere …

Trust?

Not mine.

[cali]

23. Except in Iraq and Syria, Libya, Honduras.....

She is appalling.

[Mike__M]

28. Republicans worry about children too,

you'll remember. Gotta go after the families if you wanna be sure they get the message.

I'm not supporting anyone using that playbook.

[trillion]

31. Trump. I think he's more dangerous than people give him credit.

Of course I know Hillary is. She's got blood all over her hands.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

24. But she's spent her life helping women and children!

So we're told, constantly. But I guess only 'specific' women and children.

[trillion]

32. It's up there with her right to clean water campaign.. when she's not promoting fracking

[cali]

25. I'm kicking this for all the Clinton supporters

who run from these ugly facts about their candidate.

[Arazi]

43. I'm kicking for Clinton supporters who think she's better for brown and black folks

[Skwmom]

35. That is horrific. n/t

[cali]

37. It.makes me furious and sad. She is partly responsible.

[davidthegnome]

36. Is this her idea of sending a message?

You know... this further demonstrates why we need Bernie to win. I don't know about an open border policy, but when people come here... fleeing violence, destruction, starvation, abuse and death in their own homes... then damn, as human beings who live on the same planet, we ought to welcome them and do what we can to help.

Why the hell should we be sending these people, especially children, back into the terrifying existence they thought they had escaped from? It's beyond inhumane, it's beyond cruel, I don't think there's a word in the English language foul enough for it.

Further evidence of why we need to keep fighting for Bernie - and his policies.

[Impedimentus]

38. Hillary Supports Obama 100% including his unconscionable deportation policy

Obama has done a lot of good but he is not perfect and his deportation policy is just awful. No one should be above criticism.

[cali]

39. Not one Hillary supporter has the guts to defend her on this.

It is indefensible, so ignoring it is all they have.

[Bill USA]

40. 80% Of Central American Women, Girls Are Raped in Journey to U.S. - HuffPo

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/12/central-america-migrants-rape_n_5806972.html

As the number of Central American women and girls crossing into the U.S. continues to spike, so is the staggering amount of sexual violence waged against these migrants who are in search of a better life.

According to a stunning Fusion investigation, 80 percent of women and girls crossing into the U.S. by way of Mexico are raped during their journey. That’s up from a previous estimate of 60 percent, according to an Amnesty International report.

This year alone, immigration authorities expect more than 70,000 unaccompanied minors to come through the United States unlawfully, the majority of whom are from Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. The number of unaccompanied Central American girls caught at the Southwest border has rapidly outpaced the number boys, according to a July Pew Research study.

Through May, the number of unaccompanied girls younger than 18 caught at the US-Mexico border increased by 77 percent.
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Let's quote individual cases ad infinitum

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[MuseRider]

41. Kick

Disgusting. Every bit of it is disgusting. It is not unusual for our country to behave like this. I think we have a chance to correct this with Bernie. It certainly cannot be corrected by the person who was involved in this, who lets a worse horror of a human advise her and now pretends to think that this behavior that she has engaged in is abhorrent. No, that is not change. That is a trip closer to having that same crap here, we creep ever closer and TPP could make that more than a creep closer. That we do this to others is beyond belief.

I do not like liars. I dislike cruel people even more who only think of their own advancement to the detriment of others. To send children back like this is well off the charts.

She needs to own this publically before we make the mistake of letting this happen more. We need a course correction, a big one.

[cali]

44. It's appalling.

[Agony]

42. This alone DISQUALIFIES HRC from being president.

Hillary is not leadership material.

[John Poet]

46. Hillary is DESPOT material.

[SCantiGOP]

47. Ridiculous

Simply ridiculous

[cali]

50. How about a comment on the op?

I won't hold my breath

[Karmadillo]

48. Please forget about this and let Hillary do all the worrying. Is that a deal?

[cali]

53. It's a rotten deal, so no.

[Arazi]

69. It's from HRC's deportation ad where she tells the girl not to worry

HRC will do the worrying. It was posted here in GDP to great applause from the HRC folks but only served to make me uneasy with the little girl bursting into tears about her parents being deported. Way too close to the child deportations.

Besides,HRC comes across, as usual, as stiff and wooden - not super "real"



https://m.

[DemocraticWing]

49. This is what happens when we don't have a peaceful, humanitarian foreign policy first

I don't think any President in recent memory, maybe Carter, has done this. Everybody has to look tough for the voters.

We send messages, alright: Dead children in Honduras, Iraq, Mexico, and Syria. Obey the American Empire or you're next.

Message sent.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

54. Sleep well, Abuelita Hillary.

[WillyT]

55. K & R !!!

[Feeling the Bern]

56. Hillary supporters. . .defend this! We're waiting!

[cali]

59. We have a long wait

[Jack Rabbit]

57. How many anti-immigrant bigot identify themselves as "pro-life"?

Come on, you lurkers from RW sites, 'fess up.

[Dragonfli]

58. The message has been delivered mob style, with corpses, children's corpses no less

With news like this of Clinton the Latino child killer, it is no wonder the Latino community is waking up to the fact that she won't lift a finger to help them, or even desperate children apparently.

Why must the wake up call to a community have to be so harsh as this? What magic does she have that convinces people she doesn't care about beyond personal political gain allow them to believe her? The truth is she only cares about herself. Her lies must appear most convincing to a great many people. I suppose her magic is born of lying her entire life, they say with enough practice, one can become an expert at anything.

She was not even the slightest bit apologetic about sending those children back to face death just to "send a message", well congrats Hillary, message sent, mob style via blood soaked tiny bodies that should be in warm beds here in the US and might have been without your persistence in sending your message.

The worst part is she won't miss a second of sleep over this, her direct decisions while in power were responsible for the senseless deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, what could some dead children possibly mean to such a person? Nothing.

[DrBulldog]

60. Remember who ARCHITECTED the Honduran coup in 2009!

She even brags about it in her book!

[thereismore]

61. Is it OK now to criticize Obama? Because I sure as hell am questioning

his judgment on this one. Hillary the same.

[Fast Walker 52]

66. lots of us have been criticizing Obama for crap like this since 2009

I will say his second term is way better than his first... with Hillary gone.... coincidence?

[jfern]

63. Hillary said they had to be sent back

because they had been treated poorly there.

[dflprincess]

64. Probably the worst thing she's done, but not the first time she's turned her back on kids suffering

http://www.salon.com/2015/10/15/the_worst_thing_hillary_clinton_has_ever_done/

I hope her supporters remember this before touting her work with the Children's Defense Fund. Apparently she's (de)evolved on defending kids.

[cali]

65. She has turned her back on children many times

[gregcrawford]

67. Here's an idea...

... those politicians who want to fast-track the return of children to certain death because they refute claims that they are fleeing violence; how 'bout we deport those fuckin' assholes back to Honduras and see how long they last? They are scum.

[Lordquinton]

68. Hillary "Send them back" Clinton

Who will be the next hero we see fall on their sword to distract from her record?

[Thespian2]

70. The 1%er is

a psychopath...no empathy for anyone...ego larger than a Wall Street bank building...evil...

[trillion]

77. I keep wanting to say that but the hillary supporters are showing no consience themselves

and I was afraid to get 4 of them on an alert. Her record only spells psychopath to me. She caused too much blood shed in so many countries and it all continues today. I couldn't sleep a wink for the rest of my life... no I couldn't live with my self if I hurt 1 person, let alone tens of thousands.

[Thespian2]

80. Yeah

No way to penetrate the thinking(?) of supporters of the 1%er...to get them to understand this truth...

[trillion]

82. I think they understand but don't care.

The level I've seen in them is a level I've never seen on a progressive board before.

[Vattel]

71. Maybe she didn't know that going back would be dangerous for the refugees.

Oh wait, I forgot about this:

Clinton said the main reason minors are coming is to escape violence in their home countries, predominantly Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala.

Amanpour asked if that meant they should be able to remain in the United States, since it is safer.

"Well -- it may be safer but that's not the answer," Clinton replied.

She really cares about the children, doesn't she?

[cali]

72. Hillary cares about some children. I doubt she lost a wink of sleep over these kids

[HooptieWagon]

75. She's no different than a republican.

[GoneFishin]

76. "They came. They went. They died. Ha-ha-ha-ha."

[MFM008]

79. Kids are killed here every day

and neither candidate is responsible for it.

[cali]

83. That is so reflective of Hillary. And not of the facts

[Kentonio]

85. So when a candidate supports a policy that directly leads to the death of children

We should just ignore it, because hey kids die sometimes anyway? Is that seriously what you're saying?

[JonLeibowitz]

81. Kick. Thanks cali. n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

84. That's a Hill of a message!

[azurnoir]

86. They don't make excuses for her as much as they pretend it never ever happened

down the memory hole -it was all like 2013 ya know